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lisabon
post Mar 6 2008, 12:31 AM
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Hi all, I'm sorta new-ish

About this BV from hell... I went to two Gynos and they both told me different things. Once said it was a slight yeast infection and gave me a prescription and then the other said it was BV and gave me a prescription. FYI... neither prescription worked so, I'm at a loss.(I didn't take them at the same time. They were taken months apart). Anyways, my discharge is on the slimy side. It sorta feels like snots (sorry to be so disgusting). The color is sometimes clear and sometimes white. It also makes me itch down there which I know is more of a yeast infection symptom. And the smell isn't awfully bad, but there is a stench none the less.

BV? Yeast infection? Anyone got any ideas?

Oh and I read that post about the B6? Since I'm desperate and all, I went out and boutht a bottle. It's been two days and can't say I've seen any changes. I'll continue taking them to see if a change occur though. *crosses fingers*
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post Mar 6 2008, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(sassy @ Mar 3 2008, 03:50 AM) *
Lori: Welcome back! That's great to hear! How long were you taking the Femdophilus before you saw any difference in your BV...just curious.


Hi Sassy! I took a course of flagyl, and began taking the Fem-dophilus as I was taking the flagyl. BV never came back (as it has before, many times). I took 2/day for a while, then 1/day.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Mar 3 2008, 09:43 PM) *
LORI!!!!!!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING!!!! WELCOME BACK HUN!!! I'VE MISSED YOU!!!!

So happy to hear that the Fem-dophilus worked for you!!! Congrats hun!! We will just agree to disagree on this topic. Because as we both know, what's worked for you, may not work for me and vice versa. I haven't tried the Fem yet, only because the Tea Tree Oil Suppossitories took mine away as well. I use them after sex, only because I'm afraid not too!! lol, not because I have too. So, for all I know, this was my cure too, but who knows.

Great to have you back Lori!!!

Hey Jewels! Missed you too!

I have to say though - I think it's just plain wrong to say that there is no cure. Flagyl cures BV. It just sets the stage for recurrence (by also killing off all the good bacteria with the bad). There is a difference between recurrence and relapse.

Anyway, I just want to address a few questions without quoting everyone individually. I hope this answers everything:

- Fem-dophilus is sold at Whole Foods in the probiotics section. (They keep all their probiotics refrigerated.)

- I think Cipro is prescribed for some vaginal problems (such as DIV, mycoplasma, ureaplasma, etc.) Ask your doctor.

- Thanks for putting up the Dr. Reid lecture. Awesome! I'll add it to my blog later. I would like to point out that women put Fem-dophilus in their vaginas as part of a clinical trial. Basically they're human guinea pigs, and also under doctors' care, in case anything goes wrong. And Dr. Reid made clear that this is not FDA approved use of his product. The reason I'm so anti- about putting this in your vagina is because I dropped by this thread a couple of months ago, and some ladies have obviously tried it, and have had bad results with weird stuff coming out of their vaginas afterwards. So ... I wouldn't do it. As always, it's your choice. But at the very least, see first if it works for you if you just take it orally.

I certainly hope that Dr. Reid is working on a vaginal product, though. Something like Monistat - a cream or suppository, that's safe to use. That would be awesome.

- I also want to point out - boric acid, TTO, peroxide etc. - I think it's been firmly determined that these remedies are not a cure. At best they just mask the symptoms. It's like using mouthwash, when your bad breath is caused by a health problem. It will freshen you up for a little while, but the problem won't go away. Also, I think the use of these products also inhibit the growth of the good bacteria, so you're not letting your vagina find the right balance.

I suffered with BV for over 7 years. Trust me, I know how awful it can be. And I know how it feels to be desperate to just get rid of it. I know what it's like to be afraid to have sex, afraid to uncross my legs, and sticking all sorts of things in my vagina just hoping and praying it would work this time. I even know how doctors can be such uncaring assholes who just don't fucking listen.

I'm so happy that that is finally behind me. I'm still paranoid that it will happen again, but I've been feeling good for about a year now. A healthy vagina shouldn't start stinking after normal activity - which includes unprotected sex with a healthy man, and getting your period. I know all about pH levels and stuff - and I used to dread sex and getting periods. But now I finally feel normal again. Just because you've been exposed to low pH for a while shouldn't mean it will mess you up right away.

So you guys need to let your vagina find the balance. Let it grow the good bacteria so it can fight off the bad stuff. That's the only answer. Fem-dophilus, people. Read this entire thread, and you'll see, it's the one thing that's really worked for anyone. I have tried so hard to not sound like a shill - because I freaking hate it when people trumpet cure-alls when they don't know what the hell they're talking about.

Also, I think all this boric acid and tea tree oil you guys are shoving up your coochies are not helping you in the long run. I understand that you guys are sick of the stinkiness - but this is about your health, not just about deodorizing your vagina. If your vagina is healthy, it won't smell nasty. So focus on the health.

- Oh yeah, I think someone already answered this question - but Culturelle is to help you poop. Like Activia yogurt. Won't help out your BV situation.


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post Mar 5 2008, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(jewelscando @ Mar 6 2008, 12:29 AM) *
Well... anything is possible, but don't use another one. I think the first one would have been good enough. It takes some time to disolve, so what you are seeing is the gel cap coming back out. But it usually looks like grimmy white stuff, sordof. lol. If you feel some burning, use some monistat on the outside of you, which will take it away. And it should be gone by tomorrow.

But, back to what I said, give the TTO time to work. Don't use another suppossitory for a few days. Wait and see what happens. I only use one 00 cap. And only need to fill it half way.

Good luck!! I hope it works for you!!! It's worked for me!


Thanks for the reply! Well, I'm not feeling burning, so maybe it's not yeast... I'm gonna wait a little bit and see what happens. It seems weird that it would give me a YI since TTO is usually a remedy for YI's. It kinda did look like grimy white stuff. I hope it was the gel cap! Did you see results right away or did it take a few days for you to notice a difference?
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post Mar 5 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(mg86 @ Mar 5 2008, 02:07 PM) *
Hi all - Ah, well I see the discussion is about FemDoph now...making me want to buy another bottle! smile.gif I took 2 pills daily for about 2 weeks, but didn't notice any difference. I am thinking that was not enough time and I should probably try it for longer. Do you think taking only ONE pill a day is enough? Because the bottle sure does empty quickly when taking two a day.

Also regarding Boric Acid, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Which area is it in? I have looked at Wal Mart and CVS but no luck. And does any health food store carry the 00 capsules? It would be sooo much easier to order online but the shipping is a pain.

Does anyone else have a feeling that they have to go pee when they really don't? It usually happens while I am on my period, but I've been feeling it a lot these past few weeks. No pain or burning during urination like a UTI. Also, I don't see much talk about itching on this thread, but that is one my major symptoms. And the smell, I'm not even sure how to describe it...SIGH!!

I am feeling so discouraged about this....

Hope you all are doing well!!


I found the boric Acid near the Peroxide. It's was on the bottom shelf. Looks like a big Vitamin bottle.

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post Mar 5 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(lucecita @ Mar 6 2008, 04:08 AM) *
Hello... I'm new.

Question about the tea tree oil suppositories. I made my own out of 00 gel caps and put them in last night and the night before last. Now I have things coming out of me that are making me think I might have given myself a yeast infection! ACK. I've never had one before but from what I've heard, it seems to be one. Or is this a normal reaction to the tea tree oil?


Well... anything is possible, but don't use another one. I think the first one would have been good enough. It takes some time to disolve, so what you are seeing is the gel cap coming back out. But it usually looks like grimmy white stuff, sordof. lol. If you feel some burning, use some monistat on the outside of you, which will take it away. And it should be gone by tomorrow.

But, back to what I said, give the TTO time to work. Don't use another suppossitory for a few days. Wait and see what happens. I only use one 00 cap. And only need to fill it half way.

Good luck!! I hope it works for you!!! It's worked for me!
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post Mar 5 2008, 09:51 PM
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Hello... I'm new.

Question about the tea tree oil suppositories. I made my own out of 00 gel caps and put them in last night and the night before last. Now I have things coming out of me that are making me think I might have given myself a yeast infection! ACK. I've never had one before but from what I've heard, it seems to be one. Or is this a normal reaction to the tea tree oil?
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:52 PM
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hey I've been doing the peroxide douching....so far so good! but I was wondering does the smell comes back during sex even after using the peroxide douches?....
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post Mar 5 2008, 06:14 PM
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Hi all,
I just wanted to let you all know about a product I just started using. As you know for us gals that are dealing with BV, wearing thongs is not such a good idea, and some clothes just dont look good with granny panties on...so check out commandos patches. They are cotton patches that you put on the inside of your jeans or pants, so no lines. they have worked great for me with no irritation at all. Just thought I would pass it along...be well
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post Mar 5 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:00 AM) *
I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!


The strains of lactobacili in Femdophilus are not the same as in Culturelle. Gregor Reid is one of the patent holders for these very specific, patented strains.

One thing that helped me when I had bladder problems was marshmallow root tea. It is available in many health-food stores.

If you have a compounding pharmacy in your area, a doctor or nurse-practitioner can prescribe boric acid capsules for you. The compounding pharmacist makes them up. Mine added a little powdered acidophilus for good measure. They worked great! wink.gif

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post Mar 5 2008, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 5 2008, 10:00 AM) *
Good Morning,

I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!

Not sure why but my BV doesn't have an odor blink.gif I just have a slight burning sensation and sometimes feel pinchy in there. I know when I have it cause sorry but I'm going to be blunt here...as I'm peeing I have a pussy fart. ohmy.gif

It totally sucks cause I don't want to have sex anymore and it's ruining my relationship of four yrs!! I'm going to try a major precautionary system this time and see if it works. What do you guys think...take the clindesse, them use the Fem D, (orally right not internally right?), no sex for two weeks, and use a condom? I'm I being too anal??????? wacko.gif



I don't think you are being too anal. I had to quit having sex and then for several months hubby had to use a condom, he still doesn't "finish" inside of me because the ph of sperm is base ,your vagina should be more acid so just to get symptoms under control for me that is what we had to do

plus we went through several rounds of antibiotics and then I have stayed on the fem dolph and ultimate flora for over a year plus the folic acid, b complex peroxide douches and now the yeast arrest (i think maybe the yeast arrest is working a bit better than the peroxide douche but what comes out is really gross because of the herbs in it so I am going to try the plain boric acid next)
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:43 AM
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Good Morning,

I'm not a newbie anymore!!!!!! tongue.gif I haven't received my Fem D yet but the other probiotic I was taking said 3 x a day. I feel it's best to follow what it says on the bottle and from what I'm reading most of you had luck with Fem D. I can't wait to get mine. Does anyone know about Culterelle? Would that be the same as Fem D? I need to compare them.

MG86-The feeling of having to pee could be a start of UTI or something. Drink lots of water and cranberry juice not cocktail. It always worked for me when I would feel that sensation. Yeah I'm also having a hard time finding the BA in capsule. I would totally try that too. I want to be done with this and feel normal down there!!!

Not sure why but my BV doesn't have an odor blink.gif I just have a slight burning sensation and sometimes feel pinchy in there. I know when I have it cause sorry but I'm going to be blunt here...as I'm peeing I have a pussy fart. ohmy.gif

It totally sucks cause I don't want to have sex anymore and it's ruining my relationship of four yrs!! I'm going to try a major precautionary system this time and see if it works. What do you guys think...take the clindesse, them use the Fem D, (orally right not internally right?), no sex for two weeks, and use a condom? I'm I being too anal??????? wacko.gif
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post Mar 5 2008, 08:30 AM
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Thanks quietmadness! tongue.gif I'll work on this over the weekend. FYI-never heard of avatar... huh.gif

QUOTE(quietmadness @ Mar 4 2008, 06:50 PM) *
Hey JJ27, blink.gif it's been such a long time...hmmm..

Ok. First you have to reduce whatever pic you want to put there in your computer to avatar size. Go to: www.shrinkpictures.com to do this. Once you've got one picked out, click up there on "my controls," then click on "avatar settings," and go from there.

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post Mar 5 2008, 07:50 AM
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Hi all - Ah, well I see the discussion is about FemDoph now...making me want to buy another bottle! smile.gif I took 2 pills daily for about 2 weeks, but didn't notice any difference. I am thinking that was not enough time and I should probably try it for longer. Do you think taking only ONE pill a day is enough? Because the bottle sure does empty quickly when taking two a day.

Also regarding Boric Acid, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Which area is it in? I have looked at Wal Mart and CVS but no luck. And does any health food store carry the 00 capsules? It would be sooo much easier to order online but the shipping is a pain.

Does anyone else have a feeling that they have to go pee when they really don't? It usually happens while I am on my period, but I've been feeling it a lot these past few weeks. No pain or burning during urination like a UTI. Also, I don't see much talk about itching on this thread, but that is one my major symptoms. And the smell, I'm not even sure how to describe it...SIGH!!

I am feeling so discouraged about this....

Hope you all are doing well!!
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post Mar 5 2008, 04:56 AM
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stressed..... I think it helps repopulate the vaginal tract with good bacteria and is worth taking (especially ANYTIME you are on antibiotics) I don't know that I saw a difference in symptoms. The peroxide douches or (so far) the yeast arrest seem to be working at CONTROLLING the BV. For me it controls it as well as all the antibiotics I was on before and cheaper and no going into the MD. I also take folic acid and a B complex everday (same theory..... it is cheap easy good for you anyway) I have gone through pretty much everything I have heard of my GYN was the first to suggest Boric acid and said that his patients have had some degree of success. However he stressed to me at this time if it is truley chronic .....the medical world does not have a sure fire way to cure it.
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post Mar 5 2008, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(RN with BV @ Mar 4 2008, 01:01 PM) *
that is wonderful that you were cured by fem dolph, however...................i have taken it faithfully for a year and still having to do other things to control the BV, I wish this would have worked for me but it did not. I do think the answer is with probiotics and repopulating the vaginal tract with "good" bacteria. So I continue taking it hoping it will at least help.


Hello =) I was just wondering..did it alleviate the symptoms AT ALL? (the femdoph)
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post Mar 5 2008, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(jularee @ Mar 4 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Welcome! I started using Femdophilus after a round of flagyl to help repopulate the good stuff. So far so good. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take it while on the antibiotics, just be sure to take them several hours apart so the meds won't kill the good amoebas.


I think I will go get the Femdophilus this weekend, but I'm not going to continue on flagyl. I feel like i've been taking so many pills that people around me think i'm an addict. My cousing was like "dude..ur always popping pills!" Anyways thanks for the Welcome =)

With flagyl the odor went away EVERY time for me so it definitely works, but it came back whenever my lifestyle changed, bc, or I took antibiotics. If taking femdophilus will eliminate the smell even when I take other random medications I would NOT mind at all paying and taking it for the rest of my life!

Oh yea and I emailed my gyno yesterday about femdophilus (she is ususally really informed and knowledgeable), but all she said was to make an appointment with her because it was just BV and that I should get more prescription medicine. Like she just ignored my question..which means...maybe Kaiser wants to keep shoving drugs down my throat? I duno ..any thoughts ..opinions? huh.gif
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post Mar 4 2008, 10:44 PM
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just wondering.. is there a specific colour for bv discharge? ive read that its greyish-whitish and watery. but can it be the normal kinda discharge we get most of the time, the off-whitish kind? and also, what colour is it on your pantiliners? does it dries up to a light yellow?

utterly disheartened. am still sniffing my undies every now and then wondering if i really have it. my gynae says im being paranoid =( i have forgotten what normal smells like anymore. heck i might be smelling like normal but my paranoia gives it a totally diff whiff. blah!
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post Mar 4 2008, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(JJ27 @ Mar 4 2008, 10:40 AM) *
How did you get the pic under your username?


Hey JJ27, blink.gif it's been such a long time...hmmm..

Ok. First you have to reduce whatever pic you want to put there in your computer to avatar size. Go to: www.shrinkpictures.com to do this. Once you've got one picked out, click up there on "my controls," then click on "avatar settings," and go from there.

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Ok, I said I would do this by Friday. I don't know how to upload pictures, so if someone knows how to upload pictures please teach me so I can be of better service to you all.

Ok first microscope:

I found this on ebay. This is like the microscope we used in the lab. Try to ask whoever you buy the microscope from to place the instructions with the microscope because these are very tricky to work with. You have to make sure the microscope is on certain levels to be able to view the slide correctly.It's not hard, you'll learn fairly quickly. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Microscope_W0QQi...1QQcmdZViewItem

Let me know if you need more info.


Hi, thanks for all the info! I'm at my parent's place now, and I found one of my dad's microscopes, but the batteries are obviously dead. And I'm hoping that the contacts are not coroded. The microscope says 1200X on it. And then the largest lens says 120x - 240x. Do you think that sounds like the right kind? This thing looks so small, I just hope it will work. Then again, the thing is so dusty, it may be better to just buy a new one.
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post Mar 4 2008, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(stressed43 @ Mar 3 2008, 11:52 PM) *
Ok so I've had Bv for a year now and it really does suck. I've taken Flagyl and the odor goes away...but guess what? It comes back! I had to take antibiotics for a root canal (the smell came back mad.gif ). Took flagyl again and the smell went away.

Then I started a new birth control because I usually use it for acne treatment (not contraception) and..two days later..ta da! smell came back. It's haunting me...and I feel pretty much hopeless. I don't think it is my partner anymore because we use condoms or just DONT have sex anymore. And even if it is..we don't have time to go together to get a check up HOW embarrassing. Anyway I've taken too many prescriptions that has killed all my good bacteria already. AHHH!

So I read that post about the Fem-dophillis and just taking it face value seems to make sense. I even listened to the lecture. My dad is really into trace minerals and I am really into research because I am a psych student so I can see how this supplement may work. However, I do have a few questions?

Are you or did you take it WHILE you were taking flagyl? metrogel? or any other treatments? OR did you take Femdophilis ALONE. cuz i am SICK of other treatments.

Also, you said it was available at whole foods. In what section? And can I take this supplement while I am on birth control?

Please get back to me =)
I will probably purchase it after I get the heads up from my gyno or someone that has used it !!


Welcome! I started using Femdophilus after a round of flagyl to help repopulate the good stuff. So far so good. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take it while on the antibiotics, just be sure to take them several hours apart so the meds won't kill the good amoebas.
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