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> Bacterial Vaginosis--or--embarrassing bad smell
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post Oct 19 2006, 06:34 PM
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I recently found this site. It's so nice to know that I'm not alone in this. I'm not a freak! I've been fighting BV for nearly a year now.
I've been on the same brand of birth control pills since I was 16 (I'm now 33), and I don't recall any change in my diet or my habits around the time this started. I don't know what caused it or why it won't go away. Before this I had had one yeast infection my entire life! Why did I get this?!?!
The MetroGel worked the first time I used it. The BV came back after 4 or 5 months and hasn't really gone away since. I just finished two weeks of Metronidazole pills with NO change.
My problem is a little different from most in that I have no bad smell (I did the first time, but not since). I mainly just have a problem with discharge. I've been reading the posts about boric acid and am thinking of giving it a try. Does it just work for the smell or does it make the discharge go away too?
Thanks for any help you can give me...newbie
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post Oct 19 2006, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(klee @ Oct 18 2006, 04:33 PM) *

I was definitely on my way to a full blown infection after my period and after using a mild acv vaginal wash...not really a douche but did some yoga in my shower to get it in the kitty. I did this w/just salt water for two days which helped inflammation and yesterday w/salt and acv.



How do you make the ACV wash and the salt water wash? Meaning what are the measurements, and also how have you been administering them? For how long and how many times a day?

Let's get specific here people! Theres no risk of TMI on this thread and we're all willing to try ANYTHING!
I gave the potato a whirl yesterday. Theres a bit of improvement but that had started previously. I think the boric has helped a bit. There doesn't seem to be so much discharge and the smell isn't as pungent.
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latinrican
post Oct 19 2006, 03:11 PM
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Fedup....

When I started using Boric Acid...It worked instantly. The smell was gone the next day.
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post Oct 19 2006, 01:09 PM
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fedup, have you had any kind of diagnostic tests done? Your symptoms may not be BV, as there are so many other ailments with similar symptoms. Also, boric acid treatments usually go at least 2 weeks, at 600g boric acid per suppository, usually one or two times a day. You might have to give it more time--but if you haven't ruled out other ailments, you may be using the boric acid in vain.

Neverending, Blood pressure should be taken at least 3 times in your doctor's office before you can get a "true" reading. Most patients experience some kind of anxiety (white coat syndrome) which causes the gauge to record a false blood pressure reading. I usually take it at the beginning, a few minutes later when we're talking about something else, and once again before we wrap up. To get a real idea of what someone's blood pressure is really doing, I ask people to monitor their blood pressure for 2 weeks straight, and record their numbers. Then we take an average. I hope yours isn't elevated for any reason other than the typical anxiety most people feel.

Boric acid is an antiseptic disinfectant. It stops fermentation and putrefaction. That is one reason why it works.


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post Oct 19 2006, 12:40 PM
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I've been on the boric for a week and it's not helping. I go see my doctor next month, even though I know they arent going to be able to help me. How long does the boric take to work? Anybody know? I dont know what to do. I wish this thing would just go away.
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sassy
post Oct 18 2006, 07:19 PM
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Yay to jewels! I have a rash as well, but of course I get weird random things all the time so it can definately be completely unrelated. Let us know if your blood work says anything.
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post Oct 18 2006, 07:00 PM
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Ok everyone. Went to the doctor today, and spilled the beans on the Boric. I cannot believe how scared I was. I practiced for an hour what I was going to say!! And while I was talking to her, it was as if I was having an outer body experience, like it wasn't me really speaking. Why the hell are we so scared to talk about this?? She seemed discouraged herself with B.V. and is at a loss as to why we get it and it won't go away. She had never heard of the Boric as helping and was actually very excited about it and she said she's going to do research on it, to help other patients.

As far as the rash, she said it is DEFINATELY NOT FROM THE BORIC. So I'm thanking the good Lord for that one!! She said had it been from the boric, it would not have taken close to two months to show itself. She also does not believe that it is from the products I use, because of the fact that it is in localized area's. She sent me for some blood work, and she's thinking that I have like a staff infection (internally), and that is what's causing the rash.

She's going to do some research on my rash in the meantime and wants to see me back in a week or two, depending on if it get's worse or not. Anyways, I get to go back on the Boric!! Yeah!!
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post Oct 18 2006, 05:17 PM
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Thanx for sharing Latin
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post Oct 18 2006, 03:16 PM
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I know people have talked about apple cider vinegar before but I just tried drinking it recently. I drop about a teaspoon or so into half a glass of water in the morning and again at night for two days. You could drink it this way before every meal as well. I'm crossing my fingers because I was definitely on my way to a full blown infection after my period and after using a mild acv vaginal wash...not really a douche but did some yoga in my shower to get it in the kitty. I did this w/just salt water for two days which helped inflammation and yesterday w/salt and acv. The smell and discharge is gone??!! I won't do any more washes since I think you're suppose to minimize the number of times you do that but will continue the drinking the acv every day and after my next period, I hope to have good news.
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post Oct 18 2006, 08:41 AM
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Just wanted to share this with you all... I was browsing around the net and found this.

Question:
I am looking for a home remedy for Bacterial Vaginosis. Is there anyone out there that knows one that works?

Answer:
Definitely do the pure cranberry juice. It should take about two days before you feel some relief. Yogurt is also a good option, but make sure it is plain yogurt. I know, it doesn't taste so good without sugar, but the bacteria feeds off of sugar so stay away from it. This is also why you need pure cranberry juice and not like a cranberry juice mix. You should also just stay away from sugar in general for a couple of days. Oh, and drink plenty of water. Hang in there.

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/22015
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jewelscando
post Oct 17 2006, 08:18 AM
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Yeah, that's what I thought Sassy. Because I know I started the boric in July, and I did not get the rash until the end of August. So, I also find it hard to believe that it's related to the Boric. Because I have it for so long now, I'm starting to pin down a few things. 1. My job, which is stressfull. 2. The location I've been working in. I started working there towards the end of August. And I'm wondering if there's something in the air there that's making me break out like this. Then my last resort, is the boric. Since it was entered Vaginally, maybe it took a while to get through my systom and that is why it's in different area's of my body. Oh well, who knows. I do know that the B.V. is back with a vengeance, and there's nothing I can do about it right now. And that sucks.
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sassy
post Oct 17 2006, 04:53 AM
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I haven't used boric for about 3 weeks now and my rash on my left leg is still there, but it is fading. It sounds a bit different than jewels rash. The skin isn't red...I just have dots or bug-bite size bumps.

Jewels: I hope everything goes well at the doctor. I would find it hard to believe anything was really wrong related to the boric if you stopped it so long ago. Most allergic reactions occur in the first 24-hours of using a product. I don't know what would cause your symptoms, though.
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jewelscando
post Oct 16 2006, 11:22 PM
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No I have not. Went to the doctor today and they had me waiting for over 45 Minutes. Had to leave because I had a meeting to get to. Rescheduled for Wed. I'm going to tell them about the Boric. Rash is getting better on my left arm, still spreading and worse on the right arm. Forehead is better, in certain area's. Where the rash was, it's bright red, and still rash below it, spreading towards my temples. Strangling feeling comes and goes. Seems the more stress I have, the worse it gets. Anyways, that's all for now.
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neverending
post Oct 16 2006, 11:51 AM
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jewelscando: have you been checked for sugar or glucose intolerance?
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D double U
post Oct 16 2006, 12:31 AM
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an hour
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post Oct 15 2006, 08:01 PM
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Well ladies..........I went to the hospital today and my blood pressure was 161/100 and I had to stop the diet pills and birth control until I can see my regular doctor.This sucks! I hope it's just the trim spa.
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jewelscando
post Oct 15 2006, 01:17 PM
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and how long do you leave it in?
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D double U
post Oct 15 2006, 10:19 AM
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Slice them like you would potato wedges and peel them. Slice it in a way that will comfortable fit your vagina. And they were regular potatoes. She only used one but I dunno that if you add more it may increase effectiveness
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jewelscando
post Oct 15 2006, 10:02 AM
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Yes, please find out. Becuase I eat potato's all the time, and I know I'm not allergic to that!! I want to try it also, since I know longer can use the boric. By the way, anybody want mine? I have two bottles and two bags of 00 caps!!
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neverending
post Oct 14 2006, 10:47 PM
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Just something I thought you all would like to read.

Vaginal pH as a marker for bacterial pathogens and menopausal status.

Caillouette JC, Sharp CF Jr, Zimmerman GJ, Roy S.

Loma Linda University, Pasadena, CA, USA.

OBJECTIVE: Our purpose was to confirm the elevation of vaginal pH expected in patients with bacterial pathogens in premenopausal women and to examine the relationship of serum follicle-stimulating hormone and estradiol levels to vaginal pH in menopausal patients without and with hormone replacement therapy. STUDY DESIGN: Vaginal pH was determined by phenaphthazine (Nitrazine) pH paper in 253 patients seen in a solo private practice for routine speculum examination. None of the patients were pregnant. Measurements were made of serum levels of follicle-stimulating hormone and estradiol for 172 patients and vaginal cultures were taken from 82 patients. Vaginal pH was correlated with vaginal cultures and serum follicle-stimulating hormone and estradiol levels by use of statistical analysis. RESULTS: Vaginal pH was elevated in all premenopausal patients with documented bacterial pathogens. Serum estradiol levels showed an inverse and serum follicle-stimulating hormone levels a direct statistical correlation with vaginal pH in menopausal patients. CONCLUSIONS: Measurement of vaginal pH is useful, effective, and inexpensive for screening purposes. A vaginal pH of 4.5 is consistent with a premenopausal serum estradiol level and the absence of bacterial pathogens. An elevated vaginal pH in the 5.0 to 6.5 range suggests a diagnosis of either bacterial pathogens or decreased serum estradiol. In patients with an elevated pH, vaginal culture should establish the diagnosis. In the absence of bacterial pathogens, a vaginal pH of 6.0 to 7.5 is strongly suggestive of menopause. Titration of estradiol level by vaginal pH during estrogen replacement therapy may help menopausal women avoid side effects or cessation of therapy.


High numbers of peri- and postmenopausal women had no lactobacilli and no bacterial-vaginosis-associated microorganisms. This nonpathological absence of lactobacilli in women with a Nugent score of 4 was scored as 4, and this group was considered separately from the intermediate flora group. A score of 4 was obtained for 2.1% of fertile women, 11.4% of perimenopausal women, 44.1% of postmenopausal women without HRT, and 6.9% of postmenopausal women with HRT. The physiological reduction in lactobacillus colonization of the vagina in postmenopausal women does not cause an increase in bacterial-vaginosis prevalence. Reversion of lactobacillus flora to premenopausal levels due to HRT does not increase the prevalence of bacterial vaginosis in postmenopausal women.
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