[KeraBear]

Interesting link, Strongirl.

"There were 4-year-old girls with fully developed breasts. There were 3-year-old girls with pubic hair and vaginal bleeding. There were 1-year-old girls who had not yet begun to walk but whose breasts were growing."

Okay... I'm not usually one who uses profanity much, buuuuuttt... that is FUCKED UP! Omigosh...

[strongirl]

OMG, Kera, the thought of training my tata's by giving them Scooby snacks...I laughed so hard I hurt myself! Ruh-roh! Girl, you have a true gift for comedy.

On the (documented) phenomenon of breasts and people getting bigger - I'm pretty well convinced that this is NOT evolution or better nutrition but rather the huge increase in the amount of estrogen and estrogen-like compounds that people are exposed to. I remember in the 1980's reading an article in Ms. magazine about how Puerto Rico had legalized Bovine Growth Hormone some years back and now were seeing alarming rates of precocious puberty, obesity, and male breast development (gynecomastia). The Ms. article was trying to bring attention it because it was up for a vote in the US Congress to legalize it here. I remember thinking "They will surely legalize it and in another 10 years, we'll start seeing the same thing." Sure enough, in the '90s I started seeing articles about how it was happening here. The average age of menarche (starting periods) has dropped dramatically in the US. Not only is there estrogen in the meat supply, certain plastics release compounds that affect the body like estrogen. So we're being barraged. I suspect this is one reason why the younger folks in here feel more "abnormal" than those of us who grew up in earlier decades. "Normal" has changed.

I see it not just with girls but with guys. The guys my son goes to high school with don't look like guys did when I was in school. They look softer, they have a layer of fat over their muscles, they're not hard and lean like guys when I grew up. My son is not like that but he is a vegetarian and I've tried hard to limit his hormone/chemical exposure. Recently I overheard a girlfriend hug him and say "You don't feel like other guys, you're solid muscle!"

I also think this is part of why we've seen huge increases in the rates of breast cancer and other hormone-fed cancers.

Here's an interesting snippet but there's a lot of stuff out there:

http://www.takepart.com/news/2010/08/11/ho...to-grow-breasts

[KeraBear]

But I also look up to the young "kids" here too.

I missed this bit. Awwww thanks! *blushing*

[KeraBear]

It has to be more than just the hormones in food. Women like me and Kera have ate the same foods in the past decade when we were younger too. I think genetics or just simply human evolution are also factors.

Hmm... yeah, I was thinking this exact same thing. I was raised with the exact same diet as my "little" sister! Yeah, I am with DeeRayy in ruling out evolution, but genetics factor in for sure. My mom's side is sorta on the curvy side. My sister's were the beneficiaries of that. Buuuuuuuut there are women on my dad's side that are small petite types... those are my genes, i guess But I think there are other factors too... like physical activity. I run cross country and track which might explain why i was so late with the puberty stuff and my non-sporty sister was early. There is a reason why those gals you see on the US gymnastics team look so young!!

[DeeRayy]

Does this mean our boobies are still “training?� If so, I could think of many fine things we can be training our adult booblets for: training to whip ‘em out; to whap our lovers in the face with; to display proudly in boobie-happy tops…hmmm… I like this.

This made me smile, especially about the part about whapping our lovers in the face with them. ahaha, way to give me such a powerful visual karategrrl!


and about the long skirts. idk if i'd go for that considering i'm only 5'2" haha. but i'll figure something out. you need not worry mama hen

It has to be more than just the hormones in food. Women like me and Kera have ate the same foods in the past decade when we were younger too. I think genetics or just simply human evolution are also factors.

hmmm, idk about it being evolution because it's such a sudden trend. human evolution takes such a vast amount of time to leave tangible effects. i could be wrong though. and i wouldn't like to think of myself as un-evolved just because i'm not as tall and busty as other women. i also wonder whether it's a trend that's specific in the united states or if it's a global trend. i wonder if there's any articles on this. *strokes chin*, hmmmm.....

[Allison-Shine]

Karategrrl - LOL! I like your brain. . And think of all sorts of fun tricks we can train our booblets to do. Shake? How shall we reward them? Boobie snack? ZOINKS!

Ohh my, easy Shaggy or my little Scrappy Doo:) If you come up with any tricks, do share !

[Allison-Shine]

And I agree about the hormones in food as a contributing factor in the early puberty thing. You just didn’t see this type of thing as often even as recently as 20 years ago.
KeraBear:
Does this mean our boobies are still “training?â€� If so, I could think of many fine things we can be training our adult booblets for: training to whip ‘em out; to whap our lovers in the face with; to display proudly in boobie-happy tops…hmmm… I like this.

It has to be more than just the hormones in food. Women like me and Kera have ate the same foods in the past decade when we were younger too. I think genetics or just simply human evolution are also factors.

I ummmm don't think your boobies need any "training" Karategrrl, I think you know what to do with them with the things you mentioned already

I hate the word "training", especially when it applies to a training bra or training for a job. I always hated when i was new at a job and was considered "in training" like, for every aspect of the job I master, I get a treat? Do I have to sit up and beg? Do I have to roll over? Its just a silly word at times. Woof.

I like this too

[KeraBear]

Karategrrl - LOL! I like your brain. . And think of all sorts of fun tricks we can train our booblets to do. Shake? How shall we reward them? Boobie snack? ZOINKS!

[karategrrl]

Hey DeeRayy, how do you feel about those long peasant-type skirts? Some of the new-agey ones are really fun and cute and would still offer some modesty while you -don’t- melt to death. Even the knee-length, loose shorts you find in the sports stores—the ones more like the basketball players wear—are good as well. Forgive the unsolicited fashion advice. I think I’m being a mama hen in my old age. The thought of my poor bustie little sistahs uncomfy all day does not sit well with me.

And I agree about the hormones in food as a contributing factor in the early puberty thing. You just didn’t see this type of thing as often even as recently as 20 years ago.


KeraBear:
Does this mean our boobies are still “training?” If so, I could think of many fine things we can be training our adult booblets for: training to whip ‘em out; to whap our lovers in the face with; to display proudly in boobie-happy tops…hmmm… I like this.

[DeeRayy]

I am still not completely healed from my breakup with my ex not too long ago. He was my first (my first everything really ha ha). Before I got with him, i felt so invisible and always overlooked for the girls with curves. And after the breakup, i couldn't help but ask myself "wasn't i enough?!? What could i have done differently?" But this helps.

you're not alone kera! my ex was my first kiss, first date, first everything too. i think that's what makes it so difficult to move on completely, because we haven't experienced being with anyone else. and i probably still ask myself those same questions sometimes. that line that angie wrote really hit me too. i couldn't help but read it over and over, trying to make it stick. thank you for the other part of your post too. it made me smile. hugs to you kera!

[KeraBear]

Back then they didn't have sports bras--just those horrid "training bras" that I could never bring myself to wear. God, I hate that fucking term to this day!! "Training!!??" What the fuck was I supposed to be "training" for? But forgive me, I digress.

I know! For realz!!! I don't know what I was training for... but whatever it was, my boobies were training for much too loooooooong!! Why were you so resistant at first? At that age, that was allllll the rage! ha ha

but remember, you didn't lose that guy to another girl, he lost you.

What a beautiful statement ... and true! I know this because from my interactions with DeeRayy in this forum and over PM I know she is a beautiful person inside and out! Also, even though this wasn't directed at me, I really took it to heart. I am still not completely healed from my breakup with my ex not too long ago. He was my first (my first everything really ha ha). Before I got with him, i felt so invisible and always overlooked for the girls with curves. And after the breakup, i couldn't help but ask myself "wasn't i enough?!? What could i have done differently?" But this helps.

Thank you, Angi-Wan! (Sorry... your new nickname, whether you like it or not. )

[DeeRayy]

Part of it was to try and avoid the leers and comments of horny old fuckwads who seem to visually prey more on teens than they even do on grown women. I vividly remember sweating my fucking balls off outside in the sun one hot day at lunchtime in 6th grade...I was ashamed of my little booblets so couldn't bring myself to wear an actual bra of any kind, yet for modesty against "show-though," I was wearing a tank top under my t-shirt--two layers!! Blagh!! Back then they didn't have sports bras--just those horrid "training bras" that I could never bring myself to wear. God, I hate that fucking term to this day!! "Training!!??" What the fuck was I supposed to be "training" for? But forgive me, I digress. <ahem.>

My point is, the confidence has come with life experience, and maybe yours will as well. And I must say that though I still get comments, they're not usually as graphic, crude and disgusting as the ones I used to get. There are some sick, no-balls motherfuckers out there for sure, who like the "easy prey" of the young'uns. Just try that shit now and see how I whomp their asses with my 42 years' worth of intolerance. It gets funner, DeeRayy!

ahaha! the training bra comment killed me. I also find that name stupid. the only thing those contraptions trained me to do was obsess over the size of my boobs even more!

i've also noticed that old perves tend to harass the younger crowd. it seems that they'll ogle anything under the age of eighteen with legs. They probably know better than to mess with older women. and judging from your words they'd sure learn their lesson if they tried to say something to you! haha, way to go karategrrl

i do my best to cover up in public, mainly because i'm self conscious. but a definite perk of that is avoiding those kind of gross comments for the most part. but it's getting rather hot in my area, and i'm not sure how much longer i can last wearing jeans and loose shirts! i tried to put on shorts this morning, but i kept looking down at my bare legs while eating breakfast and i just knew that i was gonna feel extremely uncomfortable the whole day if i were to go to school in them so i just slipped on some jeans instead.

I don't know how long this has historically been going on with pre-teens and early-teen girls with C cups, curves and height but it can't be as epidemic as it is now. I don't recall being at that age too many instances of seeing girls my age then being bigger than adult women. Someone who is older can probably give me a history lesson here. It's weird being in your mid-20s and seeing those around half your age taller and bustier than you. And bikini season is coming lol.

i feel you allison. when i told my doctor about how i felt i wasn't developing at a normal rate she just told me that a lot of the fast growth and development that we see today is a fairly recent trend and is by no means normal. she blames a lot of it on growing obesity rates and poor diets. this is just my opinion, but i think another contributor is all the hormones and crap that gets put into a lot of the food sold nowadays as well.

[Allison-Shine]

kera, well you've definitely got the humor part nailed! ahaha, that jogging line killed me! i actually wasn't teased all the time but the teasing i did endure hurt a lot because it came from people who (at the time) were so close to me. my alleged "best friend" during sophomore and junior year in high school used to always point out how small they were. i can remember one particular occasion where one of our friends as complaining about how she wished her boobs were bigger and my "bestie" said right in front of everyone "at least you're not like *DeeRayy*! look at hers!". it was soooo embarrassing. and my closest cousin also made jokes about how our younger cousin was passing me up already at the age of eleven. and of course everyone here knows the story about my first boyfriend, which probably hurt most of all. and it confused me so much because these people were supposed to care about me! i already talked to my cousin about it and he apologized and didn't realize how much of a sensitive issue it is for me. and the other two are cut from my life for good.

that's another thing i've been meaning to mention to you kera! i can relate to how you feel now because both my twelve and fourteen year old cousin are now c-cups. it definitely sucks because i see the twelve year old all the time. i almost feel embarrassed to be in the same room with her. but she never teases me about, thank god!

It used to be that I would see girls 14-16 passing me up, now I am noticing more that girls 11-13 are as well. My freind and I went to visit a freind of hers who has a daughter who was 11 at the time. It was like "Allie, meet Brianna" and this girl is eye to eye with me. Im not terribly short at 5'3" but Brianna was an inch taller and I could tell that she was slightly more curvier than me. And yes I was also a little uneasy about in being in the same room with her. All my freind and Brianna's mom talked about for 20 minutes is how much she was growing.

All of that was two years ago, I have only seen Brianna once since then and I asked my freind how big she was now. My freind responded casually"oh like 5'6" now and a C cup" like it was normal or something.

I don't know how long this has historically been going on with pre-teens and early-teen girls with C cups, curves and height but it can't be as epidemic as it is now. I don't recall being at that age too many instances of seeing girls my age then being bigger than adult women. Someone who is older can probably give me a history lesson here. It's weird being in your mid-20s and seeing those around half your age taller and bustier than you. And bikini season is coming lol.

[karategrrl]

thank you for the responses, all. i just needed to vent a little.

This is the place!!!

karategrrl, i just might start with the whole dream diary business.

I think strongirls' insights are really good. Might I add that I think a lot of what we dream is just the mind kind of playing with things, unraveling things, and is very interesting. Personally, I had many dreams where something dangerous was happening (sky literally falling, killing people; my furnace on fire, etc. and my now ex poo-pooing my concerns as I tried to save him and the others). Once I realized the ongoing theme, I realized it summed up a lot of what was going on in our relationship and I hadn't been resolve with him in reality, so I did it in my dreams. Really interesting stuff, actually.

btw, strongirl and karategrrl, i really admire your views on aging as well. honestly , it seems like you guys are more comfortable with dressing skimpy than I am! I'm a teenager and i don't even own a miniskirt, or any low cut tops.

That's not so weird! I feel more comfy now than I EVER did as a teen. I was actually thinking recently of how, especially as a younger teen, I'd never wear shorts or anything remotely skimpy on top. Most of it was that I just wasn't at all comfy in my own skin and terribly self-conscious. Part of it was to try and avoid the leers and comments of horny old fuckwads who seem to visually prey more on teens than they even do on grown women. I vividly remember sweating my fucking balls off outside in the sun one hot day at lunchtime in 6th grade...I was ashamed of my little booblets so couldn't bring myself to wear an actual bra of any kind, yet for modesty against "show-though," I was wearing a tank top under my t-shirt--two layers!! Blagh!! Back then they didn't have sports bras--just those horrid "training bras" that I could never bring myself to wear. God, I hate that fucking term to this day!! "Training!!??" What the fuck was I supposed to be "training" for? But forgive me, I digress. <ahem.>

My point is, the confidence has come with life experience, and maybe yours will as well. And I must say that though I still get comments, they're not usually as graphic, crude and disgusting as the ones I used to get. There are some sick, no-balls motherfuckers out there for sure, who like the "easy prey" of the young'uns. Just try that shit now and see how I whomp their asses with my 42 years' worth of intolerance. It gets funner, DeeRayy!

[DeeRayy]

thank you for the responses, all. i just needed to vent a little.

karategrrl, i just might start with the whole dream diary business. i think just a diary in general would help. although this place is pretty darn close to a diary for me! haha.

strongirl. i really liked your story about the miss america judges. i totally agree that beauty is extremely subjective. the thing is, my insecurities aren't just about beauty. i think they're also about my personality, and whether i'm too shy, too quiet, not witty enough, not fun enough, etc.

btw, strongirl and karategrrl, i really admire your views on aging as well. honestly , it seems like you guys are more comfortable with dressing skimpy than I am! I'm a teenager and i don't even own a miniskirt, or any low cut tops. i feel uncomfortable in a pair of shorts! so i salute you guys in admiration

KeraBear, I have to say a lot of what I've learned over my relatively brief years is how to figure out what I want. I spent a lot of my early 20s trying to please the boys I was dating, and didn't even know how much I was missing out on for myself (and what they were missing out on as well, because of it!). Becoming more comfortable with myself, and my body, means that I am a lot less inhibited, and it adds a bit more oomph and means a lot less awkwardness. And being willing to ask for what I want (or demand it ) always gets a good response! This is one part of my life I really do hope I never stop learning

even though this was directed at kera i really related to and agreed with it. i learned in my first relationship that i definitely need to work on addressing my own needs instead of my partner's. i spent so much time and effort trying to be who i thought he wanted me to be and i didn't show him who i actually was. and that never does any good. thank you for the response as well angie. i try and repeat the whole "it's his loss, not mine" motto but it's pretty hard to really hardwire that into my brain. but i will try to enjoy being young and single for right now

[strongirl]

Gosh, I love you guys! What a bunch of amazing, wonderful, and extremely sweet women!

Thanks so much for all the support and insights in response to my "aging" post. I feel so supported and appreciated, it's gonna be impossible to feel sorry for myself today even though I have a heinous day queued up at work!

Angie, I love you too! ((())) And: "This is one part of my life I really do hope I never stop learning". You definitely can keep learning all your life when it comes to sex, bodies, relationships - it's an endless joy as far as I am concerned. It takes intention and effort but the rewards make it so worthwhile. I have no doubt you'll have a great lifelong ride in this area.

Kera: "But whatever you do though, don't you DARE put your twins in retirement!!" ROFL! OK, I won't!

Karategrrl, I loved your analysis on clothes. That is VERY much my process - I don't worry about whether I'm "too old" really - I want a great fit, comfort and freedom of movement, and a bit of "attitude" in what I wear. I'll shop the Goodwill, the boys department at Kohl's, Hot Topic, Nordstrom's - I don't care. You're exactly right, it's all about what you feel good wearing. Great bikini story, by the way.

DeeRayy, try this on. What if your dreams have to do with the issue of competition between women, with the idea that life is one big beauty contest or popularity contest, and your fears of inadequacy and losing? You say you "couldn't measure up" to her, then in the second dream you don't "measure up" to your own bra's. This to me seems like you're trying to make yourself consciously aware of your own fears of inadequacy in order to examine them with detachment and begin to overcome them. (I love dreams, they can be so helpful.) Here is something you may find useful in trying to challenge your beliefs/fears - I came across it yesterday in the Wiki on "swimsuits". (I just inherited a 1920's swimsuit from my grandma, so I was researching.) But I was struck by this passage by one of the judges in one of the first Miss America contests in 1922:

"They were all unclear as to how to judge the contest. One judge suggested that they judge each part or feature of the body out of ten, then the woman with the total highest score would win. After they had tried the system, they discovered that although one woman might have beautiful individual parts for features, she might not be beautiful over all. So they "...gave up trying to figure out a system and resolved to trust our eyes. It led to squabbles, because all of us didn't see things in the same way, but it was the best we could do."

In other words, a bunch of men couldn't agree on which woman was most beautiful - "it led to squabbles". Think about it.

[karategrrl]

Strongirl, as for “aging gracefully,” I struggle with that a bit too. Junior clothes fit me better than “women’s” clothes, so sometimes as I’m shopping the Juniors department I have to pull back a bit.

As far as the “rules” about who shouldn’t wear what at what age, I think there are no rules whatsoever except for how something looks on you, and how it makes you feel when you wear it. If you FEEL funny in a too-short skirt (don’t’ feel it flatters you, you feel too inappropriate for where you’re wearing it, etc.) then don’t wear it. But don’t’ so it just b/c of someone else’s judgment that you passed your expiration date.

I’m totally inspired by Tina Turner, rocking it onstage in black leather minis well into her ‘60s, and this 62-year-old woman I saw who was featured in a bathing suit editorial of a fairly recent Oprah or More magazine (you know, what suit looks best on real people body type xyz, yada yada). Well, this woman was obviously no spring chicken but was in impressive shape. I say, rock it if you got it!
Personally, in recent years I find that skirts of a certain short length just aren’t flattering on me anymore, so I tend to avoid them unless I pair them with opaque tights in the winter, that sort of thing. I think older women can still dress fun, playful, sexy and yes, a little skimpy if they have the bod and they pull it off with a touch of taste and class. (Do you know of More magazine? They have great fashion pages with women over 40 and 50 rocking short skirts, long hair, etc.) I think we’ve all seen the women with the saggy boobs down to their crotch, fake spray-on tans, makeup plastered onto weathered skin, wearing 4-inch heels and teen jeans decorated with glitter in the supermarket. No, we don’t want to be that. But we can still be awesome until the day we drop into the grave, I say.

Amusing story: Years ago (I was probably 32-ish) I was scoping out cute bikinis in the dept. store. Two women walked by, both looking pretty fit. One suggested to the other a bikini near the one I was looking at. Her friend’s response? “I am 26 years old! I have no business wearing that!" Wha????? I guess 26 was “old” to her. So Strongirl, I guess it’s all relative.


Kera, yippee for mirror therapy!

“the pink-eyed cyclops!”

Bwahahaha!

“A similarly less endowed friend of mine at school called hers "breasticles"

OMG, so do I!! Or "chesticles!"


DeeRayy, we work a lot of stuff out in our dreams—even if it’s just our brains playing out scenarios we don’t while we’re conscious. And there’s no time limit on when you “should” be all over it. Be patient and gentle with yourself. <<hugs>> You might keep a dream diary, too, if you don't, as reading back over them a few weeks from now may give you some insight. I had wacked dreams after my last big breakup
and in retrospect it was all illustrating my frustrations from the relationship.

[angie_21]

Not that I've given it up yet, girls, I just think this is the beginning of my process of embracing a new role. As far as today goes, I think I'll wear a miniskirt and a low-cut top.

strongirl, I love you! I totally look up to you here as well, as a role model for continuing to go through my life without compromise. But I also look up to the young "kids" here too. There's a lot of cool people here and a lot of interesting ideas. Back when I started posting here, I was just starting to become comfortable with my own body and I still remembered very strongly how much it hurt sometimes to be so affected by my body, and I thought it would be worth it if I could help even one girl out there feel better about herself. But you guys have helped me too, by making me no longer feel alone in having those insecurities. I'm not mad at myself anymore, and I don't judge myself as shallow for caring about it, I understand why it affected me so much, and at the same time, understanding all these things makes me better able to not care anymore.

DeeRay, it sounds like you've pretty well figured out a lot of your own questions in your post. That's rough stuff. What I can say is that getting over something doesn't mean it stops being a part of your past, or that you will forget it ever happened. Your brain is trying to learn from the past, and you are worried about making sure the past doesn't repeat itself, and that's a all good, but remember, you didn't lose that guy to another girl, he lost you. And don't blame it on yourself - just because a relationship didn't work out doesn't mean the people were in it were bad, it just means they weren't right for eachother. Not every guy out there is going to be like your ex. You are young, you have so much time, and this is your chance to get out there and have fun - don't let fear stop you from taking the opportunity of being young and single and in control of your own life!! Please, I know, I wasted my youthful years in a series of one-sided and unfulfilling serious relationships, and totally regret it.

KeraBear, I have to say a lot of what I've learned over my relatively brief years is how to figure out what I want. I spent a lot of my early 20s trying to please the boys I was dating, and didn't even know how much I was missing out on for myself (and what they were missing out on as well, because of it!). Becoming more comfortable with myself, and my body, means that I am a lot less inhibited, and it adds a bit more oomph and means a lot less awkwardness. And being willing to ask for what I want (or demand it ) always gets a good response! This is one part of my life I really do hope I never stop learning

[DeeRayy]

hey guys!

sorry for shifting the mood with the not so light hearted post coming up, i know kera had me rolling with laughter at her last one [breasticles! ahaha]. but this has been bugging me lately.

i keep forgetting to bring this up but i was wondering if you guys wanna do a little dream interpretation with me. i had a really weird dream about my boobs recently, but i'm more interested in the connection it has with the dream that preceded it....

i had this the night after my last session with my therapist [who has gotten better btw, she's still not the best but she's working with me]. anyway, i first had a dream that i ran into my ex boyfriend and the girl that he left me for. it was at some sort of social gathering, i don't remember exactly what it was for. but anyway, as soon as i saw them walk in i panicked but tried to act aloof. but when she walked in i immediately saw that everyone was just like, in awe of her for some reason and everyone crowded around her to get a chance to talk to her, and she was charming the pants off everyone. and i remember feeling so completely insignificant and like i just couldn't measure up to her. the dream ended with me leaving in tears. what's weird about that dream is that i had only met the other girl a handful of times and she was never very talkative around me so i didn't know her too well. and i really don't remember what she even looked like very well either. i just have a very vague memory of her. but in my dream she was the epitome of perfection. and i seem to have recurring dreams(although i would call them nightmares) about running into him and her together, mainly when i'm stressed out.

and then i transitioned into another dream where i woke up to get ready for school and for some reason none of my bras fit. they were just too big all of a sudden! i was so confused and kept checking the labels and trying different ones but none of them were small enough, and i became very frustrated.

that's it for the second dream, but what do you guys think? i feel like this shows that i just feel inadequate all around. and my boobs are a pretty easy target to project all my feelings of inadequacy onto. and of course, it shows that i'm still hurting from being left for someone else by my first serious boyfriend, but that one's pretty obvious and i knew that before i even had the dream.

what do you guys have to say about that whole issue as well? i don't miss my ex and i'm pretty content with being single right now, but my self esteem is still pretty bruised from the whole ordeal. a lot of the time i feel like i'm just going to end up losing out to another girl again if i get into another relationship. and i know i shouldn't do that to myself, but these are hard feelings to deal with. and it's pretty frustrating because a lot of the time i say to myself "god, it's been almost a year! shouldn't i be recovered by now??".

[KeraBear]

Strongirl - Well, i think that you are already well on your way to "aging gracefully" so don't worry about that! I am way less afraid of aging because you have shown that a gal CAN be fun and sexy at 50. But whatever you do though, don't you DARE put your twins in retirement!!

"Lately I've been looking in the mirror and saying, wow, my boobs look good! Or squeezing them and thinking, wow, they feel great!" but what's funny is, I truly don't think they're much different in size than they've been for like the last 25 years. It's my brain that changed, not my boobs."

Karatee girl, this post inspired me to do some mirror therapy of my own tonight after I stepped out of the shower, because... well, most of the time I just ignore them. I even gave them a little squeeze, too, ha ha You know what? They really aren't THAT bad i guess.

"(And I don't know why, but I don't feel really comfortable with the word "breasts" unless it's a clinical/medical usage. Dunno why--too serious?? I'm OK talking about my "boobs, booblets, boobies, titties, etc." but not "breasts." Pondering this...hmmm...)"

Hey... yea! The cones!.... the pink-eyed cyclops!... jugs!... knockers! Hmm... okay, those last two might not apply to us so much (PINT, maybe?) If you wanna get real scientific though i guess the term would be "mammary glands" ("oooh... look at the glands on her!" Just don't sound good) . My word of choice has always been "boobs" though, so i am with you on that. That and "booblets" ha ha A similarly less endowed friend of mine at school called hers "breasticles"