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> Bacterial Vaginosis--or--embarrassing bad smell
Morphia
post May 17 2007, 10:44 AM
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Here's my bv bitch for the day. It turns out I had more of an odor than I thought I did. My bf finally confessed to me last night that when I'm turned on he often gets a waft of odor. He also said that its gotten more potent since I started treating it. mad.gif So I guess I do have the smell AND the burning. Lucky fucking me. And my pelvis has REALLY been bothering me the past couple of days. I have this constant feeling of pressure and discomfort. It sucks. There. I'm done.
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lori
post May 17 2007, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Aggravated @ May 16 2007, 04:45 PM) *
Sorry ladies. We had storms here last night and I lost my internet service until now. I didn't ask my doctor about the Clindamycin. I know a lot of you are worried about that...maybe someone else with an appointment soon could ask? Sorry again.


No problem, Aggravated. It was still lovely of you to offer.

So it's too bad this didn't come up until you already had your Dr. appointment. But it's come up that it's probably a good idea to ask for a bacterial culture instead of the usual wet-mount/whiff-test - so they can specifically identify exactly what is in your discharge. Perhaps next time.

As far as probiotics go, I've actually had pretty good results from Fem-dophilus (check out my blog for more info.) It's allegedly clinically proven to end up in your vagina after a week, so it's not all destroyed by bile.

I'll find the studies and add them to my blog later today.


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post May 17 2007, 08:04 AM
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I just wanted to make one bitch complaint about this bv, and then I'm going on a bv vacation for the rest of the day... Don't you all think that it's odd that a lot (not all)of us got this when we were prego? All I know is at my last doctor appointment, I'm laying nude on a paper sheet covering the bench..with shit dripping out of my snatch...seeping through the paper....How much time do you think busy offices take cleaning after exams??? Maybe I'm just germophobic. You should have seen the nasty case of pink eye I got when I was prego..had to throw away over two hundred dollars of make-up... Have no idea of how I got it....I wash my hands like a freak anyway.
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post May 17 2007, 07:19 AM
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Good Morning everyone!

I'm done with my period. I used the rephresh crap (but should have used it before I started my period. Bought some AZO yeast, gonna start taking that on a daily basis. (The discharge is a stinkin!) I'm also taking the ultimate flora) but only for a few days now. I spent about 100 bucks on vitamins and mineral supplements at my health found store. I seen a women who is an idologist (spelling not even close). She claims that she can read your eyes and know what aliments that your are suffering from. And well, she was right, and I didn't give her any help trying to discover my health issues either. I"m not sure I totally believe everything she said, becasue some of it was contridicting. But diferent foods do have different affects on people with regards to their blood type. She also told me that it took her two and half years of making changes in her diet before her asthma and pre-diabetic symtoms went away. It takes a long time for your body to recover from bad eating habits in the past. (Mine being almost 32 years of bad habits). Maybe many of you already do, but start drinking water, and plenty of it. My "water supply for years has been everything but water. It helps to maintain your ph too. Also, make sure you eat breafast, whether your trying to lose weight or not. It's very hard on your pancreas and every other cell in your body that has to go to stored supplies of energy and nutrients, robbing it from where ever it can. Oh, and if your stomach is empty all that is in it is acids and not good at all on digestive tract.

I'm gonna find a specialist somewhere close to me that is not in Muncie to treat me for my bv, and well, I guess I will just have to get into my savings that I have to pay the doctor..was saving to buy a house when I get finished with school....

To all the smokers...I have the chantix, it is suppose to work wonders..I know 6 people who have been smokers for 20 years + and haven't smoked for 8 months now!

Have a good day you all!
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anitsirhc
post May 16 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 17 2007, 01:59 AM) *
"a laboratory test that involves the growing of bacteria or other microorganisms to aid in the diagnosis."

Essentially, they send a sample of the discharge to a lab, put a sample on a petri dish and see what grows on it. It takes a week to two weeks to get the results. They're much more specific.



ok thanks!
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Morphia
post May 16 2007, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 17 2007, 12:53 AM) *
honestly, i'm not really sure what the difference between getting a culture done and what they usually do. can you tell me? i will definitely ask when i go though.



"a laboratory test that involves the growing of bacteria or other microorganisms to aid in the diagnosis."

Essentially, they send a sample of the discharge to a lab, put a sample on a petri dish and see what grows on it. It takes a week to two weeks to get the results. They're much more specific.
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post May 16 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 16 2007, 04:11 PM) *
Thats something i never heard of! But it sounds like it's worth a try. Besides what could we possibly lose? I'm a little confused though because I thought lemon is alkaline once it enters the body not acidic. Can you explain this better to me?


ilovehim: You are very correct. I looked it up. Actually once consumed lemon is in fact alkaline. But you should apparently eat 80/20 alkaline acid diet in order to promote the right ph balance. Things like sugars, dairy, meat, alcohol are actually acid foods and should be eaten marginally(20%)...Unfortunately I don't do this very well, which might explain my problems. I like thinking about this as a balance challenge. I do not believe in absolutes but I could gladly add several glasses of lemon water to a meal, canceling out smaller portions of good-but-bad foods like beer or meats. So both lemon and cayenne are alkaline forming which is good for your body's ph balance. Seems a little counterintuitive but the body works in mysterious ays.

"the body will try to compensate for acidic pH by using alkaline minerals. If the diet does not contain enough minerals to compensate, a build up of acids in the cells will occur."

http://www.energiseforlife.com/list_of_alkaline_foods.php

http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm
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anitsirhc
post May 16 2007, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 17 2007, 01:33 AM) *
I too am curious as to whether or not anyone else has had an actual culture done. I don't want this question to be forgotten. I've noticed that so many posts can happen here that certain questions get forgotten or over looked. This one is important. anitsirhc, when you go see your doctor request a culture too. That's what I'm going to do.


honestly, i'm not really sure what the difference between getting a culture done and what they usually do. can you tell me? i will definitely ask when i go though.
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Morphia
post May 16 2007, 11:16 PM
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I too am curious as to whether or not anyone else has had an actual culture done. I don't want this question to be forgotten. I've noticed that so many posts can happen here that certain questions get forgotten or over looked. This one is important. anitsirhc, when you go see your doctor request a culture too. That's what I'm going to do.
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anitsirhc
post May 16 2007, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(lori @ May 17 2007, 01:24 AM) *
Yeah, sorry I went into a big long story about what happened to me. Got a little carried away. But to sum up:

- the dull, crampy feeling may be a result of cervicitis (inflammation of cervix), which could be an indication that your upper genital tract *might* be involved

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I don't think the pain is normal, and you should try to get to the bottom of it. If the doctor/RN tries to brush it aside like they did with me, don't let them.

One suggestion is - if you get antibiotics, get the oral rather than the vaginal gel/cream, because those target the lower genital tract. (Hopefully the pills won't make you sick and stuff.)


ok i'll probably make an appointment and go to planned parenthood on monday. right now it's kind of bad. worse than it's been before.

and i refuse to take antibiotics for this anymore so that won't happen. i hate antibiotics. and doctors. my doctor once prescribed me flagyl 500mg 3x a day (obviously too much) and i was throwing up and really sick.

but now i'm worried about going to the doctor cause i started the yeast arrest today and they always say "no gels or creams or anything inserted in the vagina 2 days before the apointment." how am i supposed to get tested? i dont' want to stop taking it. ughh this is all so frustrating!!!

oh, and don't be sorry about telling me your story haha.
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lori
post May 16 2007, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 10:09 PM) *
i always thought cramps and back pain were normal symptoms. guess i was wrong!

Yeah, sorry I went into a big long story about what happened to me. Got a little carried away. But to sum up:

- the dull, crampy feeling may be a result of cervicitis (inflammation of cervix), which could be an indication that your upper genital tract *might* be involved

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I don't think the pain is normal, and you should try to get to the bottom of it. If the doctor/RN tries to brush it aside like they did with me, don't let them.

One suggestion is - if you get antibiotics, get the oral rather than the vaginal gel/cream, because those target the lower genital tract. (Hopefully the pills won't make you sick and stuff.)


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anitsirhc
post May 16 2007, 10:52 PM
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alright i will tell my doctor about it when i go. i go to planned parenthood too. i haven't always had this crampy feeling with bv. i noticed it for a while when i first got bv (but i didn't have the pain until after my doctor gave me clindesse) and since then it's been on and off. it could be from my birth control too cause i kind of get pms symptoms when i start a new pack (like cravings, i eat so much crap whenever i start a new pack) and i just started it this week. but i will mention it to my doctor. i always thought cramps and back pain were normal symptoms. guess i was wrong! and i think i did have bv for a long time without knowing it also. i didn't know anything was wrong until my doctor told me (when i went for my annual pap.) and i always had discharge too, i just thought it was normal discharge. so i could have had it for a really long time without knowing.
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Morphia
post May 16 2007, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 11:30 PM) *
hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif



I get it. But I, like Lori, had this stuff for an extended period of time without knowing it.
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post May 16 2007, 10:43 PM
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Yes, if you go back on the boards, the discussion of HPV was brought up several times, and I think 1 person was diagnosed with it, but others were not. For me, I've had a partial hysterectomy, which means, I'm almost MAN!! Ok, just kidding, but, all they left in were my Ovaries.

I still "Ovulate", because I do still get cramps however, I DO NOT HAVE PERIODS obviously. My B.V. started about a year or so after the Hysterectomy. Started out small, then NOW, it's frequent. But, seriously, for me, the flagyl vaginally has been my biggest success to date, keeping it at bay for longer periods of time.

I do have 1 worry though. Do you all think, since obviously this is not a cure, that my body could start building up a resistance to the Flagyl vaginally??

I've researched inserting the pill vaginally, and find nothing on it. My doctor doesn't seemed concerned with anything bad happening to me, however, I didn't ask him about building up a resistance.

anitsirhc, with everything in life...everyone's symptoms are different!!! I don't get cramps with B.V. just a smell. Morphia get's burning, I don't. So, I would just watch it closely. If it get's worse, you might want to get checked out and make sure you're not developing a bladder infection or kidney infections.

Morphia... can you ask your doctor about entering the flagyl vaginally?? I told my doctors about this board, and when I try different things, they write them down, and do their own research!! OBVIOUSLY, I'm not the only person going in for this same issue!!!! But I'd be interested in knowing what our doctor says compared to mine!! Thanks!!
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post May 16 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 16 2007, 09:30 PM) *
hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif

I talked about this a couple days ago - I had the same experience. But I've learned it's NOT a common symptom.

I had undiagnosed BV for at least 3 years - went to 3 different gynecologists, at least 12 times, but all they did was test for STD's (all negative) and didn't treat me for anything. I had a bunch of pap tests, too, and luckily, they were all normal. But the report always said things like - "inflammation" and "cervicitis" and "acute cervicitis." (Cervicitis = inflammation of cervix)

So I would ask the doctor - "What should I do about the acute cervicitis? It sounds bad." And she would say, "Oh, nothing. Everyone has it, it's normal." blink.gif

And I had a dull, crampy feeling all the time. I would complain about it, and the doctors would tell me that it's no big deal.

Anyway, the pain got progessively worse. For me, the nasty smell and discharge were the least of my problems, I was in pain all the time! I finally just walked into a PP clinic, and they diagnosed me with BV right away. They gave me metrogel and I felt better for the 1st time in 3 years.

So that's what happened to me 4 years ago. I've been dealing with recurrences, since then - whenever the BV comes back, I feel the dull pain before I see/smell any funky discharge. When I went back to PP for more treatment, I told my RN that I had a dull pain, and she told me that crampy pain is not a common symptom of BV. So I went to a different doctor, who was much more understanding.

What scares me about this is that I'm afraid the cervicitis was/is an indication of PID. BV makes you more vulnerable to PID if you also have chlamydia/gonorrhea/procedure, and luckily I haven't had to deal with those.

But there are now sources online that says PID can be caused by BV, independent of these other factors. (WebMD: "PID can also develop as a result of bacterial vaginosis (BV) ...") So this really upsets me, to know that there is a possibility that my upper genital tract became infected because I went to a bunch of retarded doctors who didn't treat me.

Anyway - that dull pain you feel may be a result of cervicitis. I really recommend that you get it looked at.

Here's a med journal article you might want to read - Risk Factors for Cervicitis among Women with Bacterial Vaginosis


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anitsirhc
post May 16 2007, 10:13 PM
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hey ladies, just a question. cramps are a sign of bv right? they feel like period cramps just not nearly as bad. i just hurt down there. dry.gif
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post May 16 2007, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(sciongal @ May 16 2007, 05:41 PM) *
Hi Morphia,
did you take the flagyl orally or vaginally, just wondering...



I took it orally.
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post May 16 2007, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(lori @ May 16 2007, 09:33 PM) *
Wow, that is actually pretty intriguing information. Thanks Morphia!

Okay, so ladies, here's the plan. Next time you're at the gyno with another suspected BV infection, instead of the usual whiff test and/or wet mount, how about we request a culture? Get a more specific diagnosis of the exact bacteria that's messing you up. Couldn't hurt, right?

Has anyone had a culture done before? What were the results?


That is exactly what I intend to do Friday. I have it all planned out. I'm going to tell him that something isn't right and that he needs to send a culture off to the lab to make sure there isn't something we're missing. I did read something about the mycoplasma being a cause at one other place but can't remember where. So, this may be something to really consider. I also do know that there is at least one person on this board that had a culture (can't remember who) but it came back that she had nothing wrong with her. Just this inexplicable smell. She's the one that went to some reproductive specialist. Can't remember her name...

[EDIT] I also wonder if the woman in that thread who had the ureaplasma was actually tested for bv or if she was just given visual diagnoses. She doesn't seem to be around the board anymore so I can't ask. sad.gif
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post May 16 2007, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 16 2007, 05:24 PM) *
Also, read this woman's story. I did read this entire thread but can't remember if what she dealt with was mentioned here or not.

http://hpvsupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6953...erial+vaginosis

Also, do a search for bacterial vaginosis on that board. Apparently its pretty common with those with HPV.

Wow, that is actually pretty intriguing information. Thanks Morphia!

Okay, so ladies, here's the plan. Next time you're at the gyno with another suspected BV infection, instead of the usual whiff test and/or wet mount, how about we request a culture? Get a more specific diagnosis of the exact bacteria that's messing you up. Couldn't hurt, right?

Has anyone had a culture done before? What were the results?


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post May 16 2007, 07:25 PM
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Hello ladies..

You know what I have to agree and agree again that bv is such a stressor. I mean actually having to always sniff yourself (for me it is every minute of the day) to check and see if the bv is becoming reactive again. To wonder if people are smelling you and then they wonder about your cleanliness(oh my gosh). To sit frustrated and exhausted because a product and or a medicine did not work or better yet to use a product and it rids you of the bv but then it comes right back unannounced..

It is a total huge pain. But I will continue to fight.

Just needed to vent a little..


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