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post Aug 7 2007, 12:09 PM
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How much folic acid is too much? Isn't 1200 mg to much?
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post Aug 6 2007, 11:16 PM
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I have been trying to find somewhere online where I can buy viles of b-complex... and just give myself injections ..surely if one can order every other drug under the sun off the internet, I could buy this online too? The liquid sublingual tastes like shit, and I would rather just do that, and not have to go to the doctor for them. I mean if junkies can find their vein to shoot-up in ..then I think I can manage to give myself B injections.

So if anyone comes across that let me know......


hahahaha. I'm just laughing because this is the most cost effective ways to do it but unfortunately, most people interested in giving themselves B-12 injections aren't the same market and there's no money in it.

If you can find someone who's diabetic, you can easily get the needles--but a nurse practitioner should probably instruct you on how to give yourself subcu's (because you don't want to give yourself an abscess like Anna Nicole). The more difficult thing to get might be the injectable B vitamin without a script. Just ask your doctor. If he won't do it, ask someone else. See if you can get it from a homeopath. You could also ask a home healthcare RN. My doctor gave me mine no problem, but I had been seeing her for twelve years and she knew the only reason I wanted to do it myself was to save money and time and not because I'm a needle freak. Good luck with that--you really should be able to do it. But you also want to have your blood panels done because you don't want to OD on anything that's injectable.


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post Aug 6 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(sassy @ Aug 6 2007, 03:59 PM) *
Well I'm depressed...I have been taking the folic acid and B-6 for a couple of weeks and nothing has changed whatsoever. I don't think anything will ever work for me. I've tried everything under the sun.

I'm going on my honeymoon in a couple of weeks and since boric acid would probably be taken away on a plane (i.e. it's a powdery substance and I wouldn't want to explain why I had it) do you guys think I could take the Yeast Arrest suppositories in my carry-on? They don't have to be refridgerated and it would clearly state on the package what the product was. I have to take something to keep the smell away or I won't have any fun on my trip sad.gif This is dumb. I shouldn't have to worry about my vagina while I'm trying to plan a wedding.


you should be able to put boric acid in your bags that you check. just don't bring it in the carry on. i'm sorry that you have to go through this wile you're trying to plan a wedding, that must be hard. but i guess just make the best of it and use the boric acid to keep it away for now. good luck. feel better.
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post Aug 6 2007, 10:12 PM
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Hello everyone! I have been taken B-6 100mg along with Acidophilus pills twice a day for the pass week so far the symptons have lighten up but not completely. I was wondering what if I start taking B-complex 200 mg, Acidophilus and folic acid pills twice a day?? Would that be to much or what??? Please let me know what you think. Thanks.
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post Aug 6 2007, 01:42 PM
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Well I'm depressed...I have been taking the folic acid and B-6 for a couple of weeks and nothing has changed whatsoever. I don't think anything will ever work for me. I've tried everything under the sun.

I'm going on my honeymoon in a couple of weeks and since boric acid would probably be taken away on a plane (i.e. it's a powdery substance and I wouldn't want to explain why I had it) do you guys think I could take the Yeast Arrest suppositories in my carry-on? They don't have to be refridgerated and it would clearly state on the package what the product was. I have to take something to keep the smell away or I won't have any fun on my trip sad.gif This is dumb. I shouldn't have to worry about my vagina while I'm trying to plan a wedding.
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post Aug 6 2007, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Aug 1 2007, 02:02 PM) *
I had seen that product ad on TV. Who makes that? Vagasil? I don't remember. I want to get one just to see what the makers are claiming it can test for. I was under the impression it would show if you had an infection or not..but that's not the case? I'm curious... I hadn't watched TV for about two years, but recently started watching it again, and I seen that commercial. I though it was interesting. Anitsirhc, you are on birthcontrol right? I would up your B- vitamins, in some articles we have found, it was mentioned to increase dosage if on birthcontrol. There are test strips already to test vaginal ph. There are also tests you can get to screen yourself for UTI's, but I believe your doctor has to get those for you...not sure.

I was reading an article somewhere, and I would really like to find it again...this doctor said he felt that women with BV were getting treatment for UTI"S when in fact, there wasn't one in the first place? I'm gonna try and find article again. The less often we have to go on antibiotics, the better.

I have been trying to find somewhere online where I can buy viles of b-complex... and just give myself injections ..surely if one can order every other drug under the sun off the internet, I could buy this online too? The liquid sublingual tastes like shit, and I would rather just do that, and not have to go to the doctor for them. I mean if junkies can find their vein to shoot-up in ..then I think I can manage to give myself B injections.

So if anyone comes across that let me know......


vagisil makes it. i bought it and used it. it just tests your ph and tells you by your symptoms and your ph whether or not you have a yeast infection, bv or trich. i used it today and it says my ph is normal! 4.5. so i guess i have a yeast infection, which makes sense cause i'm itching like crazy and have thick discharge, not like bv. i think it's from wearing a wet bathing suit a lot lately. i've been taking the b-6 every day. i still didn't get the complex which i will do soon.

i was on birth control but i just stopped taking it because i broke up with my boyfriend. so hopefully not taking birth control will change things, who knows.
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post Aug 6 2007, 09:54 AM
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i have been taking 250 mg of b-6 for 7 days and 1200 mg of folic acid for 5 days. all of my bv symtoms are gone. no odor, discharge or itching. i have chronic bv for 5 years, tried everything under the sun and then some, so to say that iam happy would be an understatement !! i got some good info from this website. good luck.

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Cure Bacterial Vaginosis (BV)

Home Remedies to Cure BV

Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) is the name of a condition in women where the normal balance of bacteria in the vagina is disrupted and replaced by an overgrowth of certain bacteria. It is sometimes accompanied by discharge, odor, pain, itching, or burning.

Note: If you have Vaginitis, do not drink apple cider vinegar as it will make the BV much worse. (One reader, however, just reported that she rinses with ACV for prevention.) Instead, take a folic acid supplement, which will cure vaginitis in a day or two. You can also try the yogurt insertion remedy below. Apparently it's amazing!

9/8/2006: Christine from Georgia confirms: "Bacterial Vaginosis vs Yeast Infections. I came across this website while searching for holistic cures for bacterial vaginosis. I think its really important to identify which infection you might have as what works for curing yeast might actually make the bacterial vaginosis worse. A trained physician who is up-to date with the literature should help diagnose you. I have thought that I had yeast recurring for years while the whole time I have had Bacterial Vaginosis, a COMMON condition. Be sure to get diagnosed correctly, ladies! I am going to try taking oral folic acid and the vaginal yogurt insertion to see if either helps BV.

REMEDIES THAT DON'T WORK
8/6/2007: Shannon from Richmond, California writes: I am glad to have found this site. I AM NOT ALONE. I have suffered from BV for at least five years and nothing has worked. Flagyl,metrogel,clindamyacin, I've tried it all. I just went to the store when I read about the folic acid and I got some. I don't know if there is any relief as of yet but I'll keep ya posted. God I hope this works!!!"

MISCELLANEOUS REMEDIES
7/23/2007: Jay from Jackson, MS writes: "I have very sensitive skin, so condoms, dryer sheets, and of course antibiotics can bring on a yeast infection. Step one is to avoid condoms and spermicide (for me) and using dryer sheets, particularly on underwear or athletic clothing that is close to the skin. To treat, I have had great success with bathing in lemon or lime water. This is probably more gentle than apple cider vinegar. Yeast needs a basic enviroment to live, and a healthy vagina is slightly acidic, so you want to return your environment gradually and gently to normal. Also - sperm is basic, so wash thoroughly after sexual activity to avoid creating a "good home" for excessive bacteria or yeast. There are also antifungal natural ear drops that are a little better than using a strong chemical treatment that you could try. For bacteria, I find that eating yogurt and probiotics during antibiotic courses, garlic, and avoiding triggers like dryer sheets helps as well. Hope this helps someone out there!"

FOLIC ACID AND YOGURT DOUCHE CURES BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS

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8/3/2007: PATRICIA from Greenville, nc writes: "Hey all, I just wanted everyone to know that I have been suffering from BV and tried everything and nothing work until I prayed to God sincerly an He bless me to find this site. I read about several others taking Folic Acid Supplements. It Works wonders! everytime my Monthly would come on I had an horrible fish smell that was quite disturbing to myself and others around me. I prayed for a cure!! I thank GOD for this site because I started takeing 3 folic acids 400 mg a day along with Stoney Field Yourgt.(the plain kind). I have my Monthly today and I smell like a baby. No more odors!!! I thank GOD for this site and the people that had the courage to write and tell about their experiences!"

7/24/2007: CJ from Greensboro, NC writes: "I had been fighting BV for close to two years, having been misdiagnosed as having a yeast infection. One time, my doctor did the test and realized I had BV, after that when I called in, even if I said I'd been diagnosed with BV before, I was treated for a yeast infection, never asked to come in and get tested again. Once a month I would get the symptoms, and was told to treat with over the counter yeast infection treatments. This would help for about two weeks, then the syptoms would return. Finally I thought, I bet I'm still having the BV even though my doctor is ignoring that possibility, and searched for at home remedies for BV. I came across this site and the advice to take folic acid. Keep in mind, I'd been dealing with these symptoms for two years, every two weeks to 1 month - my life had been miserable! When I saw that folic acid might help, I immediately went to the grocery store and picked some up with the yogurt (thinking I would do the yogurt treatments as well). I took 2 folic acid supplements and in 30 minutes, felt good as new. I continued to take two a day for a week and the symptoms disappeared! Now, almost 3 months since I tried the folic acid treatment, I have had no reoccuring symptoms, for the first time in two years, I'm free! I only take the folic acid if I think I feel BV symptoms, and it still had not returned. Try the folic acid first and see if it helps! It's awesome, two years of never ending symptoms have stopped by just taking some extra folic acid! YEA!"

6/20/2007: Sara from MOLINE, IL writes: "I had been fighting bacterial vaginosis for almost a year when I came accross your website. I had tried flagl (metronidazole) pills, boric acid, clindamycin, and metronidazole gel. The gel seems to be the only thing that works. Even though the gel clears me up I seem to eventually get syptoms again. I also had my partner treated. Then I read on your website about the folic acid (3 pills once a day) and the apple cidar vinegar. This has helped tremendously!!! I have yet to try the plain yogurt but it is in my fridge just in case. I also use the metronidazole gel twice a week as a preventative medicine. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!!!"

5/8/2007: Melissa (libras72@sbcglobal.net) from Woodstock, IL writes: "i too thought i was having reoccuring yeast infections. till i got to the third day of yeast treatment and had no change . looked up yeast inf cures and found this site and realized i was wron it was my bv.i was excited to hear that i'm not the only one.i tried the folic acid. 3 @ 400 mic) and within 30 min the burning and itching was gone...thank god!!! i have a pap secduled hopefuly the bv will be gone . i plan to take 1 folic acid pill a day from now on...thanks ladies.ill let you know what the dr says."

4/13/2007: Kira from Canton, OH writes: "I decided I wouldn't go to the doctor's this time. I found this website and I tried the yogurt. It helped some but not completely. I bought folic acid pills and took 1200 micrograms (3 pills x 400 micrograms) and my symptoms disappeared in a half an hour. No more symptoms at all. No itching, no burning at all. Also, why don't you guys suggest apple cider vinegar? I always always rinse myself with apple cider vinegar solution after sex to prevent infections. Last Saturday I was too tired to do it and on Tuesday I started having symptoms. I continued rinsing with apple cider vinegar solution twice a day while taking the pills."

3/31/2007: Kim from KC, MO writes: "I didn't have any plain yogurt or folic acid supplements, but was in a bind (BV symptoms) and tried strawberry yogurt and eating some foods high in folic acid today. It's not even 12 hours later and my symptoms which had been occurring for about a week are almost completely gone, without a trip to the doctor or even to the grocery store - thank you for your help!!"

2/22/2007: Linda from Memphis, TN writes, "I tried the folic acid and yogurt douche for Bacteria Vaginitis and I feel much, much, much better thank God. It works!"

3/19/2007: Julie from Los Angeles, CA writes: I have more of a question about the yogurt and folic acid douche mentioned in the cures for BV......Is the folic acid taken orally and if so how much?"

YOGURT with ACIDOPHILUS CURES BV
7/13/2007: Lynne from Columbia, MD writes: "When I read that BV returns even after antibiotics I decided taking that route would be pointless, so I researched other ways to treat it. What works for me is taking one acidophilus pill a day, and increasing the amount of yogurt products I eat/drink. Particularly Kefir seems to be helpful, as it has, I believe, a higher concentration of active cultures than regular yogurt. Also, I mixed vitamin E oil with a few drops of tea tree oil, placed this on a wet wash rag and wiped the area. I have also done this with ACV and tea tree oil, but the vitamin E oil prevents drying, which will help with the itching."

Anita, from Garland, NC writes, "Insert plain yogurt with a syringe or turkey baster. lay down as much as possible so it will not come down. A pad should be worn to catch the leakage. It really works and the itching will also stop almost instantly!!!!

10/2/2006: Kels from Tacoma, WA writes, "I tried monistat 1 day and it gave me 2nd degree burns and made me swell down there like you would not believe. I had to go to the ER and get it flushed out and be out on medication. After the burns healed, I used yogurt. Just put it in waited 20 min and then took a shower. Sleep with a pad so to catch any remaining yogurt."

QUESTION
3/23/2007: Brenda from Mission Hills, Ca writes: "After you insert yogurt to kill the bacterial vaginosis, do you have to douch after?? If anybody knows please let me know. Thank you."

APPLE CIDER VINEGAR
1/13/2007: Michelle from Jonesboro, GA writes, "Yes!! Thank you Lord! I added 3 cups of Pure Apple Cider Vinegar to my water and soaked for 20 minutes.It started working that same day. By the next day it was completely gone.No smell at all!!I hope this works for you!"

Earth Clinic comment: Apple Cider Vinegar appears to cure EVERYTHING, even when we say not to use it!

YOGURT AND APPLE CIDER VINEGAR DOUCHE
7/16/2007: MARIE from BOCA RATON, FLORIDA writes: "I'VE HAD THE BACTERIAL INFECTION FOR OVER 5 YEARS AND I TRIED EVERYTHING FROM CREAM TO GEL. I FINALLY TOOK THE TIME TO LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE. I USED THE APPLE CIDER VINEGAR WITH YOGURT AND THE SMELL AND DISCHARGE WAS GONE INSTANTLY, I STILL CANT BELIEVE IT WORKED THAT FAST. WHEN I SHOWER I JUST SPLASH A LITTLE OF ACV ON MY PRIVATE AREA TO KEEP THE BACTERIA FROM COMIN BACK. THIS REMEDY DEFINETLY WORKS SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO THEY CAN USE THIS REMEDY IT WORKS. I THOUGH THAT I WOULD NEVER GET RID OF THIS AND IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING."

7/9/2007: Elizabeth from Staten Island, NY writes: "I just tried the remedy of using plain yogurt and ACV. I've been suffering with a very pungent, sharp odor which is intense just before my menses start but I did not want to be forced to take the western medicine approach. Last night I mixed 1 teaspoon of plain yogurt and just ONE CAPFUL of raw, organic ACV and using a turkey baster, inserted the mixture before bed and wore a pad while I slept. Today the smell is gone. I will continue this approach over the next week and incorporate the Yogurt/ACV mixture into my regiment of continued health maintenance. Thank you Earthclinic!!!"


FLAGYL
11/12/2006: Chrissy from LA writes, "i have BV and i have been suffering with this for almost five years and i have tried everything their is to tried garlic, vinegar, and yogurt. i went to the doctor and he gave me flagyl 500mg for seven days and on the six day it finally started to work so i went back and got it for seven more days and now i feel great. But while taking these tablets, do not take a bath take a shower and use dove soap. i got three more days on the meds but the smell is gone and i am happy to share this to the world."

BORIC ACID
1/15/2007: Liz from Atlanta, GA writes, "Boric acid really works to prevent bacterial vaginosis. Just insert one 600mg capsule half full before bedtime and the odor is gone."

READER QUESTION
6/19/2007: Shelly from Memphis, Tennessee writes: "Can someone please help me. I have seen a lot of information about the Boric Acid suppositories (00 gelatin caps 600 mg Boric Acid), if you choose to purchase the empty gelatin caps and the Boric Acid powder to make your own suppositories how do you know how much Boric Acid to use? I hope I am not missing something and this is a stupid question. The bottle of Boric Acid I purchased came in a 12oz bottle and I purchased it via internet from a pharmacy. I hope it is the correct stuff I need. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you so very much!"

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post Aug 6 2007, 08:19 AM
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I'm taking Nature's Life. I got it from the health food store. Has anyone else experienced a lot of sleeping since taking the B-6? It seems like I can't get enough sleep. Weird!
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post Aug 5 2007, 11:25 PM
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I stopped taking the boric acid. I ran out and started my period so i decided to let it go for a week. I've almost been on it 2 months, every other night. Now its like i never took it. Everything is the same, boric acid is not a cure for me, it keeps smell away but not white stuff away. When im taking it, its like i still have it but i dont have smell...hard to explain. I started the b complex from cvs, i just read the back of it and saw it was 5mg...what the hell, thats nothing. What is a good brand to get ladies? something strong... I think this might work for me because I also agree BV is a hormonal imbalance.
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post Aug 3 2007, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 31 2007, 08:22 AM) *
Congrats CANCAN!

It's sad that we are forced to self-diagnosis our health problems, but from my own experience, that is exactly what I have had to do. And finally, after two years straight of severe insomnia, then the anxiety, and then BV..I am feeling so much better. Every doctor that I had seen....all they want to do is throw you some prozac, effexer, zoloft, and whatever antidepressants they get the most kick back most from...and send you on your way.


Thanks Arj!
I just hope I can keep the infection at bay. Apparently BV can lead to miscarriages. But will not think of this, and will try to be positive.

I think everyone should be taking their Vitamin B6 and maybe even Vitamin B5, because if you read up about it, B5 is good for hormone balancing as well. Or at least take enough B - Complex to cover all your bases. B5 deficiency is apparently rare, but I think I may try it anyway just to make sure I am getting enough.

[ Vitamin B5 plays an important role in the secretion of hormones, such as cortisone because of the role it plays in supporting the adrenal gland. These hormones assist the metabolism, help to fight allergies and are beneficial in the maintenance of healthy skin, muscles and nerves.

http://www.anyvitamins.com/vitamin-b5-pantothenic-info.htm ]
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post Aug 3 2007, 10:07 AM
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I've been taking B6 for about 2 weeks now.. and still no difference sad.gif I was taking 100mg but have increased it to 200mg. I'm going to keep taking them though, maybe time will help. Should I take a B Complex too? Maybe im lacking something else?
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post Aug 2 2007, 04:42 AM
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QUOTE(j4sonl33 @ Jul 30 2007, 09:12 PM) *
Hey ladies, Jason here again. I'm glad to see that the B6 is producing success stories. Proof positive that BV is a hormonal problem. CanCan, BV gone overnight? Hallelujah!! I'm so happy for you.

I have seen some talk about the B complexes and just wanted to chime in.....

Yes, the B-complex is a great idea. However, check the amount of the B6. With the way your systems are out of whack, you really need to load up on the B6. It controls over 100 different chemical reactions in the body (on the plus side, it also encourages the flow of dopamine to the brain, the same stuff released during sex. Meow).

After doing some more reading, I would suggest that maybe 100mg may not be enough for some of you. Bear in mind that you CAN overdose on B6, but you've got to take like 2000mg to do it. So maybe try kicking it up to 200mg and see what gives. But, please, oh please, DO remember to take lots of water with the vitamins. (In case you all haven't read my posts from farther back, my wife takes a good multivitamin and 100mg of B6 each day with a bottle of water and her BV is gone.)

But, indeed, some women may require more than others, so play around with the B6. It looks like this thing is finally gonna get licked (get your minds out of the gutter, you know who you are). ;-)

Keep writing sharing those success stories and make a note to call your doctors and cuss them out for "thinking inside the box" (again, minds out of the gutter).

See ya,
Jason

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I logged on specifically to ask about the water I have been taking the b6 for a day and I remembered something you mentioned about water but could not remember... thank you so much.... WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU tongue.gif
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post Aug 1 2007, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ Jul 30 2007, 12:56 PM) *
hiii. i haven't been on here in a long time. i have been reading it though. i did go out and buy the b-6 vitamins, 100mg, but most of you are saying the complex is better? maybe i should get that instead. i also went out and bought that vagisil infection tester thing. it just tells you the ph of your vagina. is there something like this already? i just though you could only check the ph of your urine at home. well anyway i can't use it yet cause i have my period but i feel like the bv is there but i'm using the yeast arrest so it will go away. i haven't been taking the b-6 cause i went away for a while and forgot to take it with me. hope everyone is doing well.



I had seen that product ad on TV. Who makes that? Vagasil? I don't remember. I want to get one just to see what the makers are claiming it can test for. I was under the impression it would show if you had an infection or not..but that's not the case? I'm curious... I hadn't watched TV for about two years, but recently started watching it again, and I seen that commercial. I though it was interesting. Anitsirhc, you are on birthcontrol right? I would up your B- vitamins, in some articles we have found, it was mentioned to increase dosage if on birthcontrol. There are test strips already to test vaginal ph. There are also tests you can get to screen yourself for UTI's, but I believe your doctor has to get those for you...not sure.

I was reading an article somewhere, and I would really like to find it again...this doctor said he felt that women with BV were getting treatment for UTI"S when in fact, there wasn't one in the first place? I'm gonna try and find article again. The less often we have to go on antibiotics, the better.

I have been trying to find somewhere online where I can buy viles of b-complex... and just give myself injections ..surely if one can order every other drug under the sun off the internet, I could buy this online too? The liquid sublingual tastes like shit, and I would rather just do that, and not have to go to the doctor for them. I mean if junkies can find their vein to shoot-up in ..then I think I can manage to give myself B injections.

So if anyone comes across that let me know......
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Hmm...I'm worried that I might have some sort of infection, but I can't be quite sure. I noticed a few days ago that it was smelling rather odd, but I was on my period at the time, so I wasn't really sure what was going on. Also, I was completely dry and having difficulty with that. The smell's basically gone now, and I'm able to get wet again, but the whole is area still seems kind of sore or something. I'm hoping that I had something and my body just took care of it, but I'm not really sure what's going on. Any idea?
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post Aug 1 2007, 08:04 AM
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Hi again ladies (and gents) I have a question about BA. I have been using it twice a day for almost 2 weeks and have also been taking B-6. So far so good. My question is how long do I use to BA for?
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post Jul 31 2007, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(CanCan @ Jul 29 2007, 09:59 PM) *
Hi Arj,
Well, you know how doctors are. She didn't even want me to be taking the progesterone cream. She said it wasn't necessary - unless I got pregnant - at which point I would require progesterone shots. The first time she tested me for my hormones, I got my period three days afterward, which is NOT the right time to test. Because all of your levels would be dropping, and would appear low anyway. So she told me that she wanted to test my progesterone again, at 'Mid-Luteal' Phase. Which is when your progesterone should be at it's highest. Mid-Luteal is basically the mid-way point between ovulation and menses. And again, the test results came back low. It was exactly the same level as it was three days before menses. Which is not good. So right after she gave me the second test result, I started using the progesterone cream. I disregarded her advice, because my level was so low, why not raise it whether or not I was planning on getting pregnant? Afterall, having low progesterone contributes to imbalanced hormones and vaginal dryness. And the whole BV problem. It apparently doesn't work right away like the estrogen does, but why would I take estrogen if I already have a high enough level of it? And apparently progesterone cream works really well, and has no side effects. When you are pregnant, your progesterone level goes way up and a woman's body seems to be fine with that. And I am really glad I didn't wait to take the cream, because I just found out Friday that I am pregnant. And must have been pregnant when she tested me the second time! But of course the doctor didn't tell me I was pregnant, because she didn't test for that. And I sure as hell didn't know. If your progesterone levels are low during the first trimester, you have a high risk of miscarriage. In fact, many women who miscarry, and start progesterone treatment, save their next pregnancy.

So looks like I have to call a reproductive endocrinologist tomorrow to see what hormones I need to take - temporarily at least while pregnant. And I will probably have to have my hormones checked weekly. Which will cost a lot, but I need to do it. Especially because of the age factor, my thyroid factor, and the stress factor!



Congrats CANCAN!

It's sad that we are forced to self-diagnosis our health problems, but from my own experience, that is exactly what I have had to do. And finally, after two years straight of severe insomnia, then the anxiety, and then BV..I am feeling so much better. Every doctor that I had seen....all they want to do is throw you some prozac, effexer, zoloft, and whatever antidepressants they get the most kick back most from...and send you on your way.

I knew, because I know myself, that my anxiety and insomnia were not not gonna be fixed by any of there magic pill remedies. Actually, it was only worsening my symtoms. I have everyone of those prescriptions, that I refuse to have filled. I was stupid enough to take Prozac.. (for 3 weeks..(It makes me feel really dumb for even taking them). I had mentioned to you all that I had an EKG...and that my T-waves were flat...side effect of prozac..

I have switched from stress tabs (B-complex) to sublingual....but I just wanted to list what the mgs were for the brand that I was using.

Stress Tab B-600 Nature's Life
Vitamin C 600 mg
Calcium (as calcium pantothenate) 50mg
Thiamine (B1) (as Thiamine mononitrate) 60mg
Riboflavin (B-2) 60 mg
Niacin 60 mg
vitamin B6 (only 60 mg
Folic Acid 600mg
Vitamin B-12 60 mg
Biotin 600 mg (remember this one good at killing yeast)
Pantothenic acid (it doesn't state on the bottle) but I believe this is B5 - which is required for hormone formation 600 mg
Choline 60 mg
Inositol 60 mg PABA ( para-Aminobenzoic Acid) 60 mg

Those mg are with taking 2 of these tabs....
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post Jul 30 2007, 06:55 PM
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Hey ladies, Jason here again. I'm glad to see that the B6 is producing success stories. Proof positive that BV is a hormonal problem. CanCan, BV gone overnight? Hallelujah!! I'm so happy for you.

I have seen some talk about the B complexes and just wanted to chime in.....

Yes, the B-complex is a great idea. However, check the amount of the B6. With the way your systems are out of whack, you really need to load up on the B6. It controls over 100 different chemical reactions in the body (on the plus side, it also encourages the flow of dopamine to the brain, the same stuff released during sex. Meow).

After doing some more reading, I would suggest that maybe 100mg may not be enough for some of you. Bear in mind that you CAN overdose on B6, but you've got to take like 2000mg to do it. So maybe try kicking it up to 200mg and see what gives. But, please, oh please, DO remember to take lots of water with the vitamins. (In case you all haven't read my posts from farther back, my wife takes a good multivitamin and 100mg of B6 each day with a bottle of water and her BV is gone.)

But, indeed, some women may require more than others, so play around with the B6. It looks like this thing is finally gonna get licked (get your minds out of the gutter, you know who you are). ;-)

Keep writing sharing those success stories and make a note to call your doctors and cuss them out for "thinking inside the box" (again, minds out of the gutter).

See ya,
Jason
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post Jul 30 2007, 10:39 AM
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hiii. i haven't been on here in a long time. i have been reading it though. i did go out and buy the b-6 vitamins, 100mg, but most of you are saying the complex is better? maybe i should get that instead. i also went out and bought that vagisil infection tester thing. it just tells you the ph of your vagina. is there something like this already? i just though you could only check the ph of your urine at home. well anyway i can't use it yet cause i have my period but i feel like the bv is there but i'm using the yeast arrest so it will go away. i haven't been taking the b-6 cause i went away for a while and forgot to take it with me. hope everyone is doing well.
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 29 2007, 08:45 PM) *
I think it's a good idea to take the whole B-complex, and honestly I don't really know if "one brand is better than another"..but the B complex here, didn't seem to have enough of that B-6 (Jason suggested 100 mg). i would try to increase it to 100mg (it won't hurt anything) Don't get upset if you don't get results overnight either...I have been taking them since Feb. But I think they are a good idea to supplement with these regardless, this bv crap isn't so easy to cope with. Water soluble vitamins are lost quickly when stressed, and trying to manage the stress that this stinky snatch syndrome adds to a woman's life.....it can only help (I think)


I agree! Take a whole B-Complex!! It is so good for you, and if you have stress in your life take extra! And if you are a high-strung personality type, take extra. If you drink coffee, take extra. Because coffee wears on your nerves. When I was living at home with my parents as a teenager, I was quite the highstrung bitch. And my mother one day casually left a health magazine open for me to read on my nightstand with an article in it about Vitamin B, and how it is good for your nerves. I started taking it, just because we had it in the kitchen anyway, and I swear to god I could feel the difference in how I felt. I was in a much better mood, and was much less bitchy. Not that anyone here has that problem, just telling you my personal experience with this vitamin. (With all my other vitamins, I can't really tell if they are working, I am just having faith that they are.)
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CANCAN, Did your doctor seem to think that you will have to use that progesterone cream on a short term, or long term basis? I canceled my appointment for the endo. specialist, for a while....

Is there a better time during a women's cycle to have the hormone levels checked? Or were they checked on a weekly basis? Just curious..


Hi Arj,
Well, you know how doctors are. She didn't even want me to be taking the progesterone cream. She said it wasn't necessary - unless I got pregnant - at which point I would require progesterone shots. The first time she tested me for my hormones, I got my period three days afterward, which is NOT the right time to test. Because all of your levels would be dropping, and would appear low anyway. So she told me that she wanted to test my progesterone again, at 'Mid-Luteal' Phase. Which is when your progesterone should be at it's highest. Mid-Luteal is basically the mid-way point between ovulation and menses. And again, the test results came back low. It was exactly the same level as it was three days before menses. Which is not good. So right after she gave me the second test result, I started using the progesterone cream. I disregarded her advice, because my level was so low, why not raise it whether or not I was planning on getting pregnant? Afterall, having low progesterone contributes to imbalanced hormones and vaginal dryness. And the whole BV problem. It apparently doesn't work right away like the estrogen does, but why would I take estrogen if I already have a high enough level of it? And apparently progesterone cream works really well, and has no side effects. When you are pregnant, your progesterone level goes way up and a woman's body seems to be fine with that. And I am really glad I didn't wait to take the cream, because I just found out Friday that I am pregnant. And must have been pregnant when she tested me the second time! But of course the doctor didn't tell me I was pregnant, because she didn't test for that. And I sure as hell didn't know. If your progesterone levels are low during the first trimester, you have a high risk of miscarriage. In fact, many women who miscarry, and start progesterone treatment, save their next pregnancy.

So looks like I have to call a reproductive endocrinologist tomorrow to see what hormones I need to take - temporarily at least while pregnant. And I will probably have to have my hormones checked weekly. Which will cost a lot, but I need to do it. Especially because of the age factor, my thyroid factor, and the stress factor!
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