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starkitty
post Aug 1 2007, 10:26 AM
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Hmm...I'm worried that I might have some sort of infection, but I can't be quite sure. I noticed a few days ago that it was smelling rather odd, but I was on my period at the time, so I wasn't really sure what was going on. Also, I was completely dry and having difficulty with that. The smell's basically gone now, and I'm able to get wet again, but the whole is area still seems kind of sore or something. I'm hoping that I had something and my body just took care of it, but I'm not really sure what's going on. Any idea?
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i'vehadenough
post Aug 1 2007, 08:04 AM
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Hi again ladies (and gents) I have a question about BA. I have been using it twice a day for almost 2 weeks and have also been taking B-6. So far so good. My question is how long do I use to BA for?
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arj75
post Jul 31 2007, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(CanCan @ Jul 29 2007, 09:59 PM) *
Hi Arj,
Well, you know how doctors are. She didn't even want me to be taking the progesterone cream. She said it wasn't necessary - unless I got pregnant - at which point I would require progesterone shots. The first time she tested me for my hormones, I got my period three days afterward, which is NOT the right time to test. Because all of your levels would be dropping, and would appear low anyway. So she told me that she wanted to test my progesterone again, at 'Mid-Luteal' Phase. Which is when your progesterone should be at it's highest. Mid-Luteal is basically the mid-way point between ovulation and menses. And again, the test results came back low. It was exactly the same level as it was three days before menses. Which is not good. So right after she gave me the second test result, I started using the progesterone cream. I disregarded her advice, because my level was so low, why not raise it whether or not I was planning on getting pregnant? Afterall, having low progesterone contributes to imbalanced hormones and vaginal dryness. And the whole BV problem. It apparently doesn't work right away like the estrogen does, but why would I take estrogen if I already have a high enough level of it? And apparently progesterone cream works really well, and has no side effects. When you are pregnant, your progesterone level goes way up and a woman's body seems to be fine with that. And I am really glad I didn't wait to take the cream, because I just found out Friday that I am pregnant. And must have been pregnant when she tested me the second time! But of course the doctor didn't tell me I was pregnant, because she didn't test for that. And I sure as hell didn't know. If your progesterone levels are low during the first trimester, you have a high risk of miscarriage. In fact, many women who miscarry, and start progesterone treatment, save their next pregnancy.

So looks like I have to call a reproductive endocrinologist tomorrow to see what hormones I need to take - temporarily at least while pregnant. And I will probably have to have my hormones checked weekly. Which will cost a lot, but I need to do it. Especially because of the age factor, my thyroid factor, and the stress factor!



Congrats CANCAN!

It's sad that we are forced to self-diagnosis our health problems, but from my own experience, that is exactly what I have had to do. And finally, after two years straight of severe insomnia, then the anxiety, and then BV..I am feeling so much better. Every doctor that I had seen....all they want to do is throw you some prozac, effexer, zoloft, and whatever antidepressants they get the most kick back most from...and send you on your way.

I knew, because I know myself, that my anxiety and insomnia were not not gonna be fixed by any of there magic pill remedies. Actually, it was only worsening my symtoms. I have everyone of those prescriptions, that I refuse to have filled. I was stupid enough to take Prozac.. (for 3 weeks..(It makes me feel really dumb for even taking them). I had mentioned to you all that I had an EKG...and that my T-waves were flat...side effect of prozac..

I have switched from stress tabs (B-complex) to sublingual....but I just wanted to list what the mgs were for the brand that I was using.

Stress Tab B-600 Nature's Life
Vitamin C 600 mg
Calcium (as calcium pantothenate) 50mg
Thiamine (B1) (as Thiamine mononitrate) 60mg
Riboflavin (B-2) 60 mg
Niacin 60 mg
vitamin B6 (only 60 mg
Folic Acid 600mg
Vitamin B-12 60 mg
Biotin 600 mg (remember this one good at killing yeast)
Pantothenic acid (it doesn't state on the bottle) but I believe this is B5 - which is required for hormone formation 600 mg
Choline 60 mg
Inositol 60 mg PABA ( para-Aminobenzoic Acid) 60 mg

Those mg are with taking 2 of these tabs....
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j4sonl33
post Jul 30 2007, 06:55 PM
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Hey ladies, Jason here again. I'm glad to see that the B6 is producing success stories. Proof positive that BV is a hormonal problem. CanCan, BV gone overnight? Hallelujah!! I'm so happy for you.

I have seen some talk about the B complexes and just wanted to chime in.....

Yes, the B-complex is a great idea. However, check the amount of the B6. With the way your systems are out of whack, you really need to load up on the B6. It controls over 100 different chemical reactions in the body (on the plus side, it also encourages the flow of dopamine to the brain, the same stuff released during sex. Meow).

After doing some more reading, I would suggest that maybe 100mg may not be enough for some of you. Bear in mind that you CAN overdose on B6, but you've got to take like 2000mg to do it. So maybe try kicking it up to 200mg and see what gives. But, please, oh please, DO remember to take lots of water with the vitamins. (In case you all haven't read my posts from farther back, my wife takes a good multivitamin and 100mg of B6 each day with a bottle of water and her BV is gone.)

But, indeed, some women may require more than others, so play around with the B6. It looks like this thing is finally gonna get licked (get your minds out of the gutter, you know who you are). ;-)

Keep writing sharing those success stories and make a note to call your doctors and cuss them out for "thinking inside the box" (again, minds out of the gutter).

See ya,
Jason
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anitsirhc
post Jul 30 2007, 10:39 AM
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hiii. i haven't been on here in a long time. i have been reading it though. i did go out and buy the b-6 vitamins, 100mg, but most of you are saying the complex is better? maybe i should get that instead. i also went out and bought that vagisil infection tester thing. it just tells you the ph of your vagina. is there something like this already? i just though you could only check the ph of your urine at home. well anyway i can't use it yet cause i have my period but i feel like the bv is there but i'm using the yeast arrest so it will go away. i haven't been taking the b-6 cause i went away for a while and forgot to take it with me. hope everyone is doing well.
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CanCan
post Jul 29 2007, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 29 2007, 08:45 PM) *
I think it's a good idea to take the whole B-complex, and honestly I don't really know if "one brand is better than another"..but the B complex here, didn't seem to have enough of that B-6 (Jason suggested 100 mg). i would try to increase it to 100mg (it won't hurt anything) Don't get upset if you don't get results overnight either...I have been taking them since Feb. But I think they are a good idea to supplement with these regardless, this bv crap isn't so easy to cope with. Water soluble vitamins are lost quickly when stressed, and trying to manage the stress that this stinky snatch syndrome adds to a woman's life.....it can only help (I think)


I agree! Take a whole B-Complex!! It is so good for you, and if you have stress in your life take extra! And if you are a high-strung personality type, take extra. If you drink coffee, take extra. Because coffee wears on your nerves. When I was living at home with my parents as a teenager, I was quite the highstrung bitch. And my mother one day casually left a health magazine open for me to read on my nightstand with an article in it about Vitamin B, and how it is good for your nerves. I started taking it, just because we had it in the kitchen anyway, and I swear to god I could feel the difference in how I felt. I was in a much better mood, and was much less bitchy. Not that anyone here has that problem, just telling you my personal experience with this vitamin. (With all my other vitamins, I can't really tell if they are working, I am just having faith that they are.)
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post Jul 29 2007, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 29 2007, 08:55 PM) *
CANCAN, Did your doctor seem to think that you will have to use that progesterone cream on a short term, or long term basis? I canceled my appointment for the endo. specialist, for a while....

Is there a better time during a women's cycle to have the hormone levels checked? Or were they checked on a weekly basis? Just curious..


Hi Arj,
Well, you know how doctors are. She didn't even want me to be taking the progesterone cream. She said it wasn't necessary - unless I got pregnant - at which point I would require progesterone shots. The first time she tested me for my hormones, I got my period three days afterward, which is NOT the right time to test. Because all of your levels would be dropping, and would appear low anyway. So she told me that she wanted to test my progesterone again, at 'Mid-Luteal' Phase. Which is when your progesterone should be at it's highest. Mid-Luteal is basically the mid-way point between ovulation and menses. And again, the test results came back low. It was exactly the same level as it was three days before menses. Which is not good. So right after she gave me the second test result, I started using the progesterone cream. I disregarded her advice, because my level was so low, why not raise it whether or not I was planning on getting pregnant? Afterall, having low progesterone contributes to imbalanced hormones and vaginal dryness. And the whole BV problem. It apparently doesn't work right away like the estrogen does, but why would I take estrogen if I already have a high enough level of it? And apparently progesterone cream works really well, and has no side effects. When you are pregnant, your progesterone level goes way up and a woman's body seems to be fine with that. And I am really glad I didn't wait to take the cream, because I just found out Friday that I am pregnant. And must have been pregnant when she tested me the second time! But of course the doctor didn't tell me I was pregnant, because she didn't test for that. And I sure as hell didn't know. If your progesterone levels are low during the first trimester, you have a high risk of miscarriage. In fact, many women who miscarry, and start progesterone treatment, save their next pregnancy.

So looks like I have to call a reproductive endocrinologist tomorrow to see what hormones I need to take - temporarily at least while pregnant. And I will probably have to have my hormones checked weekly. Which will cost a lot, but I need to do it. Especially because of the age factor, my thyroid factor, and the stress factor!
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arj75
post Jul 29 2007, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(CanCan @ Jul 28 2007, 08:02 PM) *
My BV seems to have gone away. Over night. I'm not sure why. I'm taking so many supplements. For the past few months I have been taking one B-Complex Vitamin everyday. And then I added two B-12 vitamins. And now have added the B-6 vitamin to my diet. (In total I am taking 100 mg of B6. Like Jason suggested.)

I also started progesterone cream this month. I've been on it for two weeks. It's supposed to correct my hormonal imbalance, and help eliminate the estrogen dominance.

Last week I also started taking extra inositol, which is by the way, yet another B vitamin. And taking Folic Acid. Which is a B vitamin too. Folic Acid I have been taking for three months already, but someone told me that 'FolaPro' L-5-Methyl Tetrahydrolfolate is the best kind to take for assimilation. I switched from taking regular folic to this brand last week. So perhaps everything is helping?



CANCAN, Did your doctor seem to think that you will have to use that progesterone cream on a short term, or long term basis? I canceled my appointment for the endo. specialist, for a while....

Is there a better time during a women's cycle to have the hormone levels checked? Or were they checked on a weekly basis? Just curious..
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arj75
post Jul 29 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(britt8705 @ Jul 29 2007, 07:34 PM) *
arj75 or anyone that can help . I know u might have been asked this 100 times by now but how long have you been taking the B-complex pill? when did u see results and do u think the CVS brand of b-complex is a good one to take? Here is a link to show u exactly what I am talking about.

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/deta...Query=b-complex

Thanks for all your help


I think it's a good idea to take the whole B-complex, and honestly I don't really know if "one brand is better than another"..but the B complex here, didn't seem to have enough of that B-6 (Jason suggested 100 mg). i would try to increase it to 100mg (it won't hurt anything) Don't get upset if you don't get results overnight either...I have been taking them since Feb. But I think they are a good idea to supplement with these regardless, this bv crap isn't so easy to cope with. Water soluble vitamins are lost quickly when stressed, and trying to manage the stress that this stinky snatch syndrome adds to a woman's life.....it can only help (I think)
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post Jul 29 2007, 05:17 PM
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arj75 or anyone that can help . I know u might have been asked this 100 times by now but how long have you been taking the B-complex pill? when did u see results and do u think the CVS brand of b-complex is a good one to take? Here is a link to show u exactly what I am talking about.

http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/deta...Query=b-complex

Thanks for all your help
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post Jul 28 2007, 05:45 PM
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My BV seems to have gone away. Over night. I'm not sure why. I'm taking so many supplements. For the past few months I have been taking one B-Complex Vitamin everyday. And then I added two B-12 vitamins. And now have added the B-6 vitamin to my diet. (In total I am taking 100 mg of B6. Like Jason suggested.)

I also started progesterone cream this month. I've been on it for two weeks. It's supposed to correct my hormonal imbalance, and help eliminate the estrogen dominance.

Last week I also started taking extra inositol, which is by the way, yet another B vitamin. And taking Folic Acid. Which is a B vitamin too. Folic Acid I have been taking for three months already, but someone told me that 'FolaPro' L-5-Methyl Tetrahydrolfolate is the best kind to take for assimilation. I switched from taking regular folic to this brand last week. So perhaps everything is helping?
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post Jul 28 2007, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(AtMyWitsEnd @ Jul 27 2007, 09:37 PM) *
Hi all,

Just wanted to say I'm so glad I found this forum and to know that I am not alone. I've been battling this for quite while, but was to ashamed to go to the Dr., but finally went. Over the last few months, my Dr. has put me on 3 rounds of flagyl and told me to switch to Dove unscented, but it the horrible fishy smell still comes back within a few days-weeks. I'm 30 yo and not currently sexually active(I'd be afraid to let anyone down there). I'm afraid to use the restroom in public b/c I know someone will come behind and get a whiff. Even my roommate came out and told me that there is usually a fishy odor lingering after I use the bathroom.....How embarrassing!!! I'm still reading through all your old posts, but hopefully something on here will work for me. This is so frustrating!!!


Hello, I have used Enzara, tetrasil, and the today balance restore vit c tablets. For me, the vitamin c tablets have worked the best. Enzara was a hit or miss, and tetrasil was soothing for irritated vulva.
Vitamin C actually gets rid of the discharge and odor. In the morning you will have heavy discharge that normally comes out while you are standing in the shower. Good Luck Guys!
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post Jul 27 2007, 07:20 PM
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Hi all,

Just wanted to say I'm so glad I found this forum and to know that I am not alone. I've been battling this for quite while, but was to ashamed to go to the Dr., but finally went. Over the last few months, my Dr. has put me on 3 rounds of flagyl and told me to switch to Dove unscented, but it the horrible fishy smell still comes back within a few days-weeks. I'm 30 yo and not currently sexually active(I'd be afraid to let anyone down there). I'm afraid to use the restroom in public b/c I know someone will come behind and get a whiff. Even my roommate came out and told me that there is usually a fishy odor lingering after I use the bathroom.....How embarrassing!!! I'm still reading through all your old posts, but hopefully something on here will work for me. This is so frustrating!!!
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post Jul 27 2007, 03:16 PM
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Hi everyone,

I was just reading some of the last comments and I see the B6 vitamin is working for some. I didn't get to read deeply so I was wondering of anyone could tell me exactly which one to buy and where. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jul 27 2007, 03:53 AM) *
I'm still BV free for now, couldn't be happier. The fact that I can sleep and I'm able to function is amazing in itself. I'm fearing now that I'm gonna turn into sleeping beauty and not wake until my prince arrives! lol

How are things going for you?


I also bought the b-6 100mg pills (just to be sure this crap never comes back) and I've been sleeping a lot. I thought OMG I'm pregnant again. I don't know if that is what it's supposed to do but good lord. smile.gif
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post Jul 27 2007, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Jul 27 2007, 02:48 AM) *
Hey guys, I know you havent seen me in a while, sorry. been busy i guess.

So ive been taking the boric acid treatment for almost 2 months now, nearing the end of the treatment it seems like its not responding anymore. I dont know whats going on, everything is getting worse. I started smelling strongly again and have some digestive problems. constipation and some blood and mucus in my stool. I've been eating activia yogurt which helps alot. I'm still not able to see my doctor. I'm going to pick up some b complex vitamins tomorrow, sounds like those really work and are essential. I dont know what treatment to try, I wish i at least had insurance to keep seeing a doctor. My kidneys also hurt sometimes, I hope i dont have stones. I wish i had the money just to get everything checked out. It's depressing that I have to live with this right now. That or just let medical bills go to collection. I feel so lost and depressed about it.


Drink green tea, mint tea, or oat straw tea. Once in the morning on an empty stomach and before bed. That's how I improved my digestion. You could also do lemon water in the mornings. I was told that if you drink cold drinks with food it puts the fire out. If you get what I'm saying?

If you have blood in your stool, please see a doctor and rule out colon cancer. I don't mean to scare you. Many years ago before I got rid of the bv, I also had blood in my stool but not all the time. I also use to see mucous. I went to the doctor and did the finger check (good gawd).
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post Jul 27 2007, 06:50 AM
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Hello Ladies,

I was doing some reading this morning.. I googled "high estrogen dominance" I found a very interesting article.

http://www.womentowomen.com/menopause/estrogendominance.asp

It doesn't only just discuss menopause.

"overall estrogen levels in men and women are too high because of xenoestrogens- chemicals in the environment that mimic estrogen in our bodies and act as endocrine disruptors even at minute concentrations"

Scientific study of wildlife - specifically, frogs and fish- is proving this unfortunate reality to be without doubt.
In an interesting twist, researchers worldwide have observed that fish in our lakes and rivers are actually switching genders due to high levels of effluent estrogens. Even though mainstream media has only begun to recognize this as "news" experts have been discussing the problem of pharmaceutical pollution for over 25 years, and have known about gender-bent fish for more than a decade. Some surmise these changes to be caused in part by excessive levels of steriods- largely excreted by humans using birth control pills and hormonal replacement therapy. Our water treatment facilities are not designed to remove hormonal pollutants.

A co-worker of mine brought up this for discussion yesterday.....Prozac (most widely used in America) secondly in Europe. Yeah, Prozac is in their water and I don't think you all want to know at what levels.

But on a happy note, there are still things one can do to protect herself from hormonal problems...good diet, reduce stress, exercise.

It's a good article too read in your spare time, very informative.
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post Jul 26 2007, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(neverending @ Jul 26 2007, 02:00 PM) *
Good Article smile.gif
How is everything going for you arj75?


I'm still BV free for now, couldn't be happier. The fact that I can sleep and I'm able to function is amazing in itself. I'm fearing now that I'm gonna turn into sleeping beauty and not wake until my prince arrives! lol

How are things going for you?
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post Jul 26 2007, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Jul 26 2007, 09:48 PM) *
Hey guys, I know you havent seen me in a while, sorry. been busy i guess.

So ive been taking the boric acid treatment for almost 2 months now, nearing the end of the treatment it seems like its not responding anymore. I dont know whats going on, everything is getting worse. I started smelling strongly again and have some digestive problems. constipation and some blood and mucus in my stool. I've been eating activia yogurt which helps alot. I'm still not able to see my doctor. I'm going to pick up some b complex vitamins tomorrow, sounds like those really work and are essential. I dont know what treatment to try, I wish i at least had insurance to keep seeing a doctor. My kidneys also hurt sometimes, I hope i dont have stones. I wish i had the money just to get everything checked out. It's depressing that I have to live with this right now. That or just let medical bills go to collection. I feel so lost and depressed about it.



Italianwife,

The state I live in has a program called "Cardinal Access" basically, they base your doctor fees on your income. Check and see if your state has a program like that, many do.
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post Jul 26 2007, 07:31 PM
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Hey guys, I know you havent seen me in a while, sorry. been busy i guess.

So ive been taking the boric acid treatment for almost 2 months now, nearing the end of the treatment it seems like its not responding anymore. I dont know whats going on, everything is getting worse. I started smelling strongly again and have some digestive problems. constipation and some blood and mucus in my stool. I've been eating activia yogurt which helps alot. I'm still not able to see my doctor. I'm going to pick up some b complex vitamins tomorrow, sounds like those really work and are essential. I dont know what treatment to try, I wish i at least had insurance to keep seeing a doctor. My kidneys also hurt sometimes, I hope i dont have stones. I wish i had the money just to get everything checked out. It's depressing that I have to live with this right now. That or just let medical bills go to collection. I feel so lost and depressed about it.
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