[swtgrl]

GOOD Grief ladies, this thing is awful! this is the first time i've had it and i couldn't imagine having it again and again like I've read! i hope it gets better for all of you.

i just have a question or two...my doctor doesn't tell me anything and i am in the process of finding a new one!

I am taking Clindesse and am on the pill. My last active pill was saturday so I started my period and my last dosage of clindesse was also on sunday evening. Will it still work? It seems like it has.

And when is it ok to have sex again? I don't want to give it to my boyfriend, if that's possible, or get it again!

JR

[paige]

were they bad and did you do the course of flagyl and fem-d or just the fem-d. just curious, don't mean to be nosy

The first two weeks no. I just started flagyl this week. I was good without the flagyl so I do not take it everyday. I have used just about everything the ladies here said worked for them. I found one the works for me and the fem-d I do need because I eat all the bad foods.

[arj75]

MRSA is really getting bad everywhere. I think a little boy in New York died of MRSA. How do you know if your a carrier? Is there a test or something? If your hospitalized do they run tests for it? Sorry so many questions but this disease, if it is a disease, is getting really bad.

LADIES; EVERYTHING IS STILL GREAT ON THIS END AND YES, THE NUVARING IS A GREAT FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL. I LOVE IT! MY BREAST HAVE EVEN PERKED BACK UP AND THEY ARE NOT SORE THE WAY THEY WERE WHEN I FIRST STARTED.

Neverending...I really don't know what doctors are doing as far as testing for it. I don't think they are worried about it unless you get crazy boil type blisters and then well, get your ass to the hospital. I'll have get that paper off my old computer..as far as how many people as actual carriers of MRSA. We all have staff naturally on our skin. (I know you already know that) But what's causing the panic is MRSA is difficult to get rid of and used to basically just be found in nursing homes or people who had been hospitalized for whatever reason and picked it up there. The information I found was that 45/55% of people were now carrriers of MRSA - the fear?- is that those people hadn't been to a doctor, hospital or nursing home or anywhere that they could write off the reason of where they could have picked it up at. When I get time..I post all the links and statistics of everything that I found.


Quiet Madness..I tried to find that 20/20 show myself online and didnt have much luck..but I spent maybe a whole five minutes looking and said F**k it..I'll just wait til I get it from my sis. I just found it interesting. That disorder is VERY rare, those poor people who suffer from that have the smell coming out of their sweat glands, urine, mouth, and mucous membranes. They can't metabolism certain foods correctly..which leaves them with the funky fishy body odor. But..now researchers are starting to test women with chronic BV.. and some cases finding very high amounts of that same chemical in women's urine with bv. Certain foods ( I'm still looking for list..but some I know are fish, lentils, and B vitamins . I'll get back with you. There is no cure for those poor people ( its mostly women who have the syndrome) they completly lack the enzymes to break everything down, but, they basically stay on low doses of Flagyl to keep the bacteria from building up in their gut.. and some of the more fortunate have been able to improve the odor by excluding certain foods from the diet.....

Lori I remember reading somewhere maybe the V-book? That if you feel you must douche..that there are more safer times during a womans cycle in which to do that..in order to keep from pushing any bacteria up further..but I don't remember what the hell it said. Does anyone know that?...I'm not above it either. lol Also..Lori, how long did you use condoms until you decided to make the leap of faith, or did you say you still have your mate use them?

Until I get some tea tree oil to try, I will use the boric while I'm on my period, and in the middle of my cycle. I'm not getting any action in the bedroom..or I would use it after that too. lol

[kristen]

i went back and looked at all the enzara posts seems most everyone who tried it felt it was a scam. fine with me because i didn't really want to try it becasue the name sounds gross to me... i know how funny that might sound. but i am still curious how is it supossed to work and what is it. i am so tired of avoiding sex it has put so much stress on my boyfriend and i this past year, and i'm so tired of endless late nights researching the internet. will this ever end. i want to get the fem d just need to find it.

[kristen]

i went back and looked at all the enzara posts seems most everyone who tried it felt it was a scam. fine with me because i didn't really want to try it becasue the name sounds gross to me... i know how funny that might sound. but i am still curious how is it supossed to work and what is it. i am so tired of avoiding sex it has put so much stress on my boyfriend and i this past year, and i'm so tired of endless late nights researching the internet. will this ever end. i want to get the fem d just need to find it.

[kristen]

its been a while since i have posted anything, but i have been keeping up with every one elses posts. i stop by here every day to see whats new. any way, i want to try the fem d but cannot find it. at least not anywhere near by. i was wondering about enzara. i dont know anything about it and i dont even like the name. i just want to know has anyone tried it and how is it supossed to work. i remember some one asked about it a while back but i dont remember an answer. everything is the same with me the smell usually doesn't get to bad but i just can't get rid of the discharge. everywhere i read it talks about a watery discharge, mine isn't watery its white and i guess kinda slimy, people have been using the word snot. something like that maybe, just smooth slimy and white and, but enough on that. alot of new people posting this last week or so. lets you see just how many poeple have this crap and can't get rid of it. its been like 8 or 9 monthes since i have been to the doc i think i'm going to give that another go but i have moved and need to find one. plus i cant take flagyl cuz it makes me vomit for hours untill i pass out on the bathroom floor so i just figure whats the point.

[britt8705]

Hi Ladies,

I hope relief is on it's way FAST! I havent been on here like I should...mostly due to depresion :'( but anyways. Wat is the new remedies? Im so feed up im willing to try Boric Acid just a few months ago I swear to myself I would neva put that up there. How well does the Boric Acid work and where can I get the Boric Acid in capsules?

[JoanClayton]

I have been taking the Fem D for almost 2 weeks (2 pills a day) and it is NOT WORKING FOR ME...It made it WORSE....I had the oral flagyl and I can't find it now.

I just think that its making it leave the body thats why its getting worse.

I was taking Vitamin C, Folic, and B Complex prior to this and it wasn't as bad...But the vitamins made me really nauseous...I don't know if you have to drink a lot lot lot of water when taking vitamins.

I HATE THIS.

[fustrated]

yes i did

were they bad and did you do the course of flagyl and fem-d or just the fem-d. just curious, don't mean to be nosy

[paige]

That is re-assuring Paige. My question to you is when you started taking fem-d, did you have bv symptoms?

yes i did

[swtgrl]

Grief ladies, this thing is awful! this is the first time i've had it and i couldn't imagine having it again and again like I've read! i hope it gets better for all of you.

i just have a question or two...my doctor doesn't tell me anything and i am in the process of finding a new one!

I am taking Clindesse and am on the pill my last active pill was saturday so I started my period and my last dosage of clindesse was also on sunday evening. Will it still work? It seems like it has.

And when is it ok to have sex again? I don't want to give it to my boyfriend, if that's possible, or get it again!

[fustrated]

Hi everyone i have been taking fem-d two weeks now no smell no bv . Iam very happy

That is re-assuring Paige. My question to you is when you started taking fem-d, did you have bv symptoms?

[paige]

Hi everyone i have been taking fem-d two weeks now no smell no bv . Iam very happy

[CarrieBradshaw]

Well, the flow of your period is really based upon your Uterus contracting to get it out. That's atleast what my doctor told me before I had my hysterectomy. I was having LITERALLY 20 day periods, and he explained to me that because my Uterus was so swollen, from endometriosis, that It was taking 20 days for my uterus to "Squeeze" it all out. (Hense, cramps during periods) So, as far as it being your muscles... I don't believe it has anything to do with your "Muscles". And most importantly, I don't have periods. I haven't had periods now for around 7yrs.... and I've had BV going on 6yrs now.

yah that's what I figured. i didn't really mean it was having trouble getting periods out, just getting everything out in general. maybe my uterus isn't pushing hard enough then. lol. i dunno, just another random thought of mine about BV. have a great day everyone.

[jewelscando]

This is just a total shot in the dark, but I'm pretty sure all of our Vs really really WANT to be in balance. I honestly think the first time we get BV it's caused by one thing and it's just really really hard to get back to that natural balance once you get it one time (aren't they always saying, once you get it once, you're more likely to get it again?). So anyways, it's my hope (I've had success with FemD, too) that FemD pushes our Vs to get back to that original natural balance. Once we're finally there with the help of the good ole' FemD, we don't have to take it again.... at least that's what I dream about at night. Anyways, I really like FemD so far. I prolly woulda tried TTO, but I just hate sticking crap up there.

On another note, I did get some TTO for a fungal infection on my skin, and DAYUM! It ate it right up! I mean fast!!! I tried everything over the counter AND Rxs for my skin problem. TTO was the ONLY thing that worked....now I'm using it for everything on my skin. LOL. My boyfriend had a small cut on his hand the other day and I forced him to put some TTO on it and it really helped it. SO yeah, I love TTO too Just not for my Va JJ.

On another note, ya know I think about BV so much, so I just come up with random reasons as to why people keep getting BV. When I was in my teens and on my period, my monthly flow would gush out like there was no tomorrow. I never thought anything of it until I'm in my mid-20s and pretty sexually active. Because now, I notice it really doesn't gush out (my period). It kind of just sits there and I ended up wiping a bunch of it when I'm using the bathroom (sorry for the graphics). But, I'm wondering, after 10 years of tampon use and several years of sexual activity, are my muscles not as strong? Is my Va J J not pushing things out as well (e.g. period, secretions, etc. etc.). So, if that's the case, is it harder for it to self-cleanse? meaning, harder for it to get the bad bacteria out? Maybe I always had the bad bacteria around, but my Va JJ was so strong and young in my teens and early 20s that it just pushed it out really quickly? Now, maybe it doesn't get cleansed as fast, and so the bacteria gets a chance to hang around longer and really get settled ???? I could be totally off and probably am....but that was just a random thought I had the other day.

I'm off to do some kegels...

Well, the flow of your period is really based upon your Uterus contracting to get it out. That's atleast what my doctor told me before I had my hysterectomy. I was having LITERALLY 20 day periods, and he explained to me that because my Uterus was so swollen, from endometriosis, that It was taking 20 days for my uterus to "Squeeze" it all out. (Hense, cramps during periods) So, as far as it being your muscles... I don't believe it has anything to do with your "Muscles". And most importantly, I don't have periods. I haven't had periods now for around 7yrs.... and I've had BV going on 6yrs now.

[fustrated]

Lori -- I have started a course of flagyl and fem-d. I started both on Saturday. My question to you is when you did your course of Flagyl and fem-d, when did you start seeing results and when you know that your body felt "normal". I did a coure of Clandesse (sp?) last Tuesday and started Flagy and fem-d on Saturday. On Sunday (yesterday) I felt really good. I knew I still had BV but not bad at all. But today (Monday) the symtoms are worse. Did you have symptoms while you took your flagyl and fem-d and if so, when did you start noticing a difference. Did you still have signs of BV when you got done with the course of flagyl? I hope my question makes sense. Again I know our bodies are different. I have researched this myself, not to your extent, but the clincial tests show that healthy bacteria starts growing in 7days, however if I am taking an antibodic, is that killing the fem-d I am taking and stopping any good bacteria that grows? I guess I am confused on that part. Are they saying to take the fem-d to get my body use to the probodtic or is it actually helping during my course of flagyl? Thank you for doing all your research. I was taking Femonal, and thought I was seeing results, but the BV came back. I found this site by accident and the flagyl and fem-d made sense to me. I don't know if will work for me, but it is worth trying. The blogs I have read on this site state that the fem-d did not work for them, but they never really said if they took the fem-d with the Flagyl. I am hoping that following the study will work for me. Okay, sorry to keep writing. Thanks again for your research.

[CarrieBradshaw]

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Thanks for telling me how you feel, Jewels. I'm not saying anyone needs to take Fem-doph. But you obviously didn't understand HOW it works, so I've explained it as clearly as I could. I hope it makes sense to you.
Well, most of everything I understand. But what I STILL DON'T understand, is you've restored the good bacteria. I understand that. SO.... HOW DID YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP IT RESTORED??? My fear is, if I restore the good bacteria, how do I keep it good??? Does that make sense??

This is just a total shot in the dark, but I'm pretty sure all of our Vs really really WANT to be in balance. I honestly think the first time we get BV it's caused by one thing and it's just really really hard to get back to that natural balance once you get it one time (aren't they always saying, once you get it once, you're more likely to get it again?). So anyways, it's my hope (I've had success with FemD, too) that FemD pushes our Vs to get back to that original natural balance. Once we're finally there with the help of the good ole' FemD, we don't have to take it again.... at least that's what I dream about at night. Anyways, I really like FemD so far. I prolly woulda tried TTO, but I just hate sticking crap up there.

On another note, I did get some TTO for a fungal infection on my skin, and DAYUM! It ate it right up! I mean fast!!! I tried everything over the counter AND Rxs for my skin problem. TTO was the ONLY thing that worked....now I'm using it for everything on my skin. LOL. My boyfriend had a small cut on his hand the other day and I forced him to put some TTO on it and it really helped it. SO yeah, I love TTO too Just not for my Va JJ.

On another note, ya know I think about BV so much, so I just come up with random reasons as to why people keep getting BV. When I was in my teens and on my period, my monthly flow would gush out like there was no tomorrow. I never thought anything of it until I'm in my mid-20s and pretty sexually active. Because now, I notice it really doesn't gush out (my period). It kind of just sits there and I ended up wiping a bunch of it when I'm using the bathroom (sorry for the graphics). But, I'm wondering, after 10 years of tampon use and several years of sexual activity, are my muscles not as strong? Is my Va J J not pushing things out as well (e.g. period, secretions, etc. etc.). So, if that's the case, is it harder for it to self-cleanse? meaning, harder for it to get the bad bacteria out? Maybe I always had the bad bacteria around, but my Va JJ was so strong and young in my teens and early 20s that it just pushed it out really quickly? Now, maybe it doesn't get cleansed as fast, and so the bacteria gets a chance to hang around longer and really get settled ???? I could be totally off and probably am....but that was just a random thought I had the other day.

I'm off to do some kegels...

[stressed43]

hi sprinkles thanks for the welcome. I totally agree with you. We all have different bodies and they react to medicine/washes/supplements differently.

So I went out today and bought the Fem-D from whole foods with my boyfriend. I took one pill (it was really gross tasting) and I swear no more than 5o minutes later I was anxious so I did a "smell test" and it smelled like nothing. My bf thought it was a miracle because before I took the pill it had smelled like the same ole ICKY gross smell (which we almost had gotten used to BLEH!) Anyways whatever Fem-D does it does it fast. I'm guessing if it does not work for some of you guys after a week or two you may want to not waste money and look into other options. I checked down there a couple of minutes ago and it didn't smell like nothing but if BV was 100% odor I would say its a good 14%. So I am going to a pill a day for a month and hopefully it will go away. Maybe not forever, but at least I won't have to run to my gyno every time I have a relapse and be treated like a total sluts..AS IF ITS MY FAULT I smell! Anyways wish me luck ladies! And I hope all of you guys are doing well

[jewelscando]

I can't explain it any clearer than I have, Jewels.

But here's an excerpt from Prevention Magazine that I hope helps you:

Top Medical Breakthroughs of 2007

Breakthrough that speeds treatment of vaginal infections

Probiotics--friendly bacteria that thrive in the body--are known to prevent or even cure yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis. Now there's an OTC supplement containing the two Lactobacillus strains documented to promote vaginal health. The probiotic pill Fem-Dophilus has erased up to 90% of vaginal bacterial infections and significantly reduced yeast growth in trials by coating the lining of vaginal tissues and producing acids that keep pathogens from gaining a foothold. When women take antibiotics, Fem-Dophilus doubles the drugs' effectiveness by recolonizing the vagina with healthy flora.
Actually, you can make it worse. Douching can push the BV germs into the upper genital tract and cause PID.

Hmmmm... well... either way, it's a miracle!! I'm so happy for you Lori!! And I value your thoughts and opinions.

For those of you who think the discussions between Lori and I are "Juvenile", well, you just don't know Lori and I!! We go back and forth all the time. I value what Lori has to say, because she has spent probably more hours then all of us combined in researching this ridiculous problem that we all have.. So, do not get offended. Lori truly is here to help, and any advice you can get from her, take it. She knows her "Shit!" Just check out her blog!! Anyone who spends that amount of time, compiling all that information, is truly someone who cares.

As for me... I'm still going strong... I was with my boyfriend, all weekend, and everything was perfect. I will use the TTO tomorrow night, just half a capsule, because I'm chicken shit that it will come back!!

One day, I hope to be as confident as Lori, and hopefully I won't have to keep using it. I am considering getting the Fem though Lori. I really like what you've had to say about it!

[neverending]

Thanks for sharing the info about the TTO Maggie MRSA is a big epidemic in the county in which I live. I actually did a research paper on it awhile back...and well, yep..MRSA and VRE? are being found in vaginal cultures. Really really sad...two deaths this year from MRSA in two young women (in their 20's) who were otherwise healthy..one woman was pregnant.

I haven't tried tea-tree oil yet, but I think I might. I did like the boric.

MRSA is really getting bad everywhere. I think a little boy in New York died of MRSA. How do you know if your a carrier? Is there a test or something? If your hospitalized do they run tests for it? Sorry so many questions but this disease, if it is a disease, is getting really bad.

LADIES; EVERYTHING IS STILL GREAT ON THIS END AND YES, THE NUVARING IS A GREAT FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL. I LOVE IT! MY BREAST HAVE EVEN PERKED BACK UP AND THEY ARE NOT SORE THE WAY THEY WERE WHEN I FIRST STARTED.