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post Jun 10 2008, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(hellotampon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:11 AM) *
I've noticed that a lot of bras in my size don't fit me right- they seem made to hold softball-shaped boobs with no breast tissue on the sides, like implants.

Oh that' what it is!!!
I always wondered about that.
The underwires of bras seem to get narrower every year.
I still have the same bra size and shape, but these days there's always some fat on the side bulging out.
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post Jun 10 2008, 06:58 AM
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QUOTE(knorl05 @ Jun 10 2008, 06:28 AM) *
oh, and isnt it interesting that any woman without small breasts would hop into the small-breast support thread, to "feel better about herself"? i think that could make for a conversation as well...


lol i was thinking the same myself! although in a way i do the same so didnt want to comment:/

this discussion is fascinating. If there weren't negatives to having large breasts then there wouldnt be a support group so i dont see why we shouldnt be able to discuss those negatives in our small bust group. so long as it's not in a derogatory way. as a more frequent reader of the people quoted i know that the impression that some seem to have got isnt necessarily accurate of their general views and opinions.
As for the boob jobs i think any 'natural' women, large or small, would agree that they give an unrealistic perception of the female form. The type of bodies seen naked everyday are not a fair representation of how most women look. It leaves men deluded and women feeling inadequate. I totally agree with Stongirl, as we all probably concur on more of our issues and views than you'd expect
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post Jun 10 2008, 03:45 AM
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How does it feel to have breasts? Physically and psychologically?
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:50 PM
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"The grass is always greener"

No matter what, we all have to deal with the consequences that come from being small breasted or large breasted or getting breast implants... the grass will always be greener and misunderstandings are bound to happen. I appreciate the discussion here between everyone.

I know that larger breasted women have to deal with some stuff... like I've said in the other thread, I can only imagine and I am glad that I do not have to endure that because I don't like a lot of attention. Lucky for me, huh? rolleyes.gif

I agree with knorl05 here, "i'm simply making and discussing observations. hey it sucks there are so many presumptions in society, but i think the way to get over that in ourselves is to work through them... discuss them, dissect them, deconstruct them." This is how we grow as human beings and women.


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post Jun 9 2008, 11:11 PM
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yez yez that was me and some of the comments quoted were mine. not miserable by any means, i'm simply making and discussing observations. hey it sucks there are so many presumptions in society, but i think the way to get over that in ourselves is to work through them... discuss them, dissect them, deconstruct them. i'm not a perfect person, but i do work on getting the Truth out of the things that affect and influence me on the day to day. i've by far been the object of others' critiques, as we all have. and i was not intending to say that large breasted women are not intelligent.. i was saying i think society may make it harder for large breasted women to be taken seriously, because such attention is on their breasts. i was saying that i liked the fact that i can downplay my femininity, my sexuality, and i dont think many large breasted women have that same freedom. the only "insult" i may have made was not directed toward large breasted women specifically, but rather women who objectify themselves and who embody the barbie doll cookie cutter perfect little porn star mold. feminist i am, and women's choices i do support, but i know that a woman who appears to be -or rather presents herself to be- that superficial is not someone of whom i'd have much in common. better, worse, it is entirely a matter of opinion.

oh, and isnt it interesting that any woman without small breasts would hop into the small-breast support thread, to feel better about herself? i think that could make for a conversation as well...


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post Jun 9 2008, 10:27 PM
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I apologize in advance to anyone who has fake books but oh my lord yes they bother me! I hate talking to guys who prefer fake boobs to real ones b/c they "look better". I feel like no guys realize that real boobs don't stick straight out!If you really feel like the one thing you're missing in life is boobies, then by all means go ahead. But I hate feeling ugly b/c my boobs hang low by sheer weight, cause me to have that bit of supportive fat near/under my underarms that's visible in tank tops (I know you know what I'm talking about!), and aren't perfectly round and perfectly similar in size.
I'm only 23 and I know so many girls who had breast enlargements in their high school or college years b/c they wanted to be "attractive" to men. Most of them now have *scandalous* pictures on their myspaces of their perfect boobs. I've even joked with my mom that I should get my boob fat taken out and same sized silicone put in so mine are perky yet again!

*I realize there are real reasons for getting breast enlargements and I in no way want to be putting anyone down!

**My boyfriend thinks I'm insane and says he's never met a guy who thinks fake is better than real but I assure you I HAVE met them!
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hellotampon
post Jun 9 2008, 09:54 PM
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I agree that strongirl's post was lovely. Thank you!

One thing I noticed was that the small busties don't like how implants are normalizing big boobs. However, they also normalize boobs that are perfectly round and practically up your armpits- attributes that most naturally large breasts don't have. I've noticed that a lot of bras in my size don't fit me right- they seem made to hold softball-shaped boobs with no breast tissue on the sides, like implants. Overall I guess it sucks for everyone.
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post Jun 9 2008, 07:03 PM
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Gosh, I agree with Strongirl so much. If any of my comments were offensive to you ladies here, I do apologize. Thank goodness the comments that Hellotampon referenced weren't any of mine, but they could have easily been, I make assumptions all the time about people (period). I am not perfect, sometimes I say things that are hypocritical and that I do not agree with, when examined closely. Strongirl is the best advocate for the small breast support group, what she said was key.


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post Jun 9 2008, 03:31 PM
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I'm also from the small boob group but had to chime in here. I don't want big boobs - I love my small ones and have had nothing but positive feedback about them from lovers, men, etc - but I think large ones are lovely too and it totally bugs me when women of any size criticize and make assumptions about other women. I've posted a couple of times in the small boob forum asking for tolerance, support, and appreciation of other women, regardless of their breast size and their personal choices (implants included!).

It is unfair to assume large-breasted women are stupid or slutty!

It is just as unfair to assume small-breasted women are miserable or jealous!

Big boobs do not = trashy, any more than small boobs = unsexy.

We should all question our own assumptions. If the purpose of these "support groups" to provide support - then let's do that. If we just start putting other people down, they will start putting us down, and everyone just feels worse. Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes...as do meanness and ugliness.

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post Jun 9 2008, 03:31 PM
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I really don't want to cause a boob-war here, but I gotta agree with hellotampon.

While I did not read the archives to get a sense of the overall vibe of the small boob thread, when I popped in the most recent posts were pretty harsh towards the big boobed among us. I peeked in there when I was feeling a little sensitive, and I left feeling even more bummed out.

I totally get that people need a place to vent and share their feelings/experiences with similarly minded people and I would in no way suggest that anyone should censor their feelings, but it certainly gave me pause to read some of the things that hellotampon quoted below. I just wonder how productive it is in the long run to try finding comfort in cutting other people down. Even the comment my husband made to make me feel better in my moment of humiliation (yes that's what it felt like) was inappropriate, and I told him so - scrutinizing and criticizing women's bodies is the problem and cutting down other women is not the solution.

Ultimately, they can say whatever they want in that thread and I certainly will not post in there to chastise anyone for what they say. I will post in this thread and express to the other large busted busties how depressing I find it.
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post Jun 9 2008, 03:03 PM
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I can see how that could be taken as offensive yes. but i havent really been involved in the latest convo' and was refering to the general chat that usually goes on which isnt offensive to large boobs at all. Infact its usually saying how we'd like big boobs but then reassuring ourselves with a reason why that might not be all its cracked up to be. Thats actually one of the reasons i read in here from time to time. Hearing all you ladies disccuss the cons as well as the pros reminds me the grass isnt always greener. Im sure if i dug around in here deep enough i could find similar stuff but reversed. truth is i bet any of the people who made those quotes would thank their lucky stars if they woke up with big boobies
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post Jun 9 2008, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(starship @ Jun 9 2008, 05:39 PM) *
And Hellotampon, its actually usually society and its portrayl of women that we blame for how we feel about our bodies, not ladies with larger breasts. thank you
Sorry for intruding here but, like i said, I like to read your posts too and was just a bit offended when i read that and wanted to stop any small vs big fandango in its tracks


Well honestly was a bit offended too, reading things like, "big boobs are floppy and saggy" and that we can't be "cerebral (maybe our boobs divert blood flow from our brains?),"

and, "they allow me the rite to downplay my sexuality to such a degree that pure intellect is allowed to take its course. so many women complain that they are not taken seriously, and i wonder if the outward display of their breasts doesn't have something to do with that,"

and, "I'd definitely be more attracted to the woman who's a bit more physically modest but great personality, intelligent, etc. vs. one who has her tits pushed up and hanging out in public." So you want big boobs so badly, but you have to cover them up?

I know that most of the conversation centered around appreciating your small boobs and saying that everyone is beautiful, but the stuff I quoted made me feel like shit. For the record I was totally flat till i was at least 17, and assumed I would be forever, and I never would have said things like that about more boobed people.
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post Jun 9 2008, 01:33 PM
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Actually the irony is, if you have very big boobs, you also get insensitive comments.
I.e "How much did they cost?" rolleyes.gif
Another popular insult is the assumption, they must be saggy, by people, who haven't even seen me naked. dry.gif

In our stupid porno culture, and obsession with breast implants, people don't always realize, that for women, who have naturally big boobs, this was not a choice we made, and we have to learn to accept our bodies just the same way women with small boobs have to. wink.gif



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post Jun 9 2008, 11:22 AM
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Im from the small boob group (i like to read this one too sometimes) & I second everything Edie said
Sometimes we may talk about the benefits of having small boobs over big but thats only because some of us would like bigger ones:/.
None of what we say is meant to be offensive or judgemental towards women with larger breasts. Infact most of us (myself included) probably wish we were posters in this thread rather than the small breast one. If you read most of the posts youll know that we've all had our fair share of hurtful comments towards our body shape and so i think we'd be the last ones to turn around and do the same towards other women.
And Hellotampon, its actually usually society and its portrayl of women that we blame for how we feel about our bodies, not ladies with larger breasts. thank you
Sorry for intruding here but, like i said, I like to read your posts too and was just a bit offended when i read that and wanted to stop any small vs big fandango in its tracks
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:13 AM
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I have to add that the whole Big Boobs=Trashy can be so internalized! I remember talking about it in therapy how sometimes I felt like I looked "slovenly" because I had 38DDD. And just the other day I asked my boyfriend if he found it unattractive how...I have no idea how to say this delicately...floppy, I guess, I looked braless. I'm not someone who tries top find sex positions that are "slimming" or whatever fat hating sex positions that Cosmo is promoting this month and normally I really love my breasts but I was feeling insecure that day. He looked at me like I was crazy and said, no, he had no problem with me having larger breasts. rolleyes.gif


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post Jun 9 2008, 11:10 AM
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Eep, now I'm in here instead of in the small boob thread by mistake!

I have to say, I don't think it's the intention of most of the ladies in the small breast support group to trash women with big boobs. We give ourselves and each other pep talks about the perks of having small breasts, which may come off sounding negative about big ones (practical stuff like being able to go braless or being able to wear certain clothing without looking inappropriate). We're just trying to support each other in a world where this particular body part gets waaay too much attention and some are considered better and more feminine and others are considered deformities. In my recollection, the only women anyone has expressed having a problem with are those who make mean remarks or those who choose to get huge implants, which perpetrates the "abnormality" of small tits. Many of us in there have stated that all body types can be beautiful.

A lot of us in there have gotten really insensitive comments from men or other women. So of course that causes some resentment and jealousy towards the "other half." But I like to think we're not hating on you guys, but the culture that creates this.

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post Jun 9 2008, 09:42 AM
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thanks ladies! I'm not as upset as I was, just because ultimately, I think she looks like the idiot for saying something so ridiculous. Like aural mentioned below - boobs do not define us! Calling someone trashy is a judgment of their character; how absurd is it to judge a person's character based on a body part?

yeah, hellotampon, I made the mistake of lurking around the small boob thread, too. I just wanted an idea as to whether or not my incident was a fluke or the general consensus among smaller boobed ladies. Apparently, the woman who made that comment in my presence is unique only because she said it out loud. Evidently, people do judge your character based on the size of your boobs. I appreciate their need for a space to vent their frustrations, but I have to say it has never occurred to me to say insulting things about women with smaller breasts to make myself feel better. To me it just smacks of female-on-female hate and it is so disappointing to see among women who consider themselves feminists.

I've learned to except that fact that there are certain styles of clothing that are not flattering for me (though that's more about individual body type/shape than boob size), but I think it's offensive to suggest that women with large boobs should just hide them because they're distracting. If someone is so distracted by my breasts that they can't see the rest of me (physical and otherwise), they are the one with the problem - not me or my boobs!
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post Jun 9 2008, 07:49 AM
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I just went in the small boob thread by mistake... don't. It's pretty insulting- not overtly, but ya know- there's just something about it that says, "we are miserable and it's all the big boob ladies' fault."
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post Jun 8 2008, 06:58 AM
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Hi busties. I think that "big boobs are trashy" is total bullshit for people that are jeolous bitches. Some of my A cup friends are always bitching saying they want bigger tits. I guess it's the whole grass is greener thing.

I finally got sized yesterday, and found out that I'm between a 40DD and 40DDD. This shocks me a little, but damn I just notice so much difference. My whole body feels different. I just wish I would have done this earlier, but it feels really good to finally know my size.

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post Jun 8 2008, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(pug @ Jun 7 2008, 08:45 PM) *
Hey I looked at that site (thanks!!). Do you know if they ship to the US?
I feel like Canada and Britain have these amazing stores and the US has... nothing.

One more thing and this feels like an odd topic to bring up: Does anyone have a problem with what I refer to as "nipplage": basically, noticing the outline of er "cold" nipples under bras. I notice all these nice bras from bigger boobs, but none of them have even the slightest padding to alleviate this problem!


Hi Pug,

Yes they do ship to the States, but its a bit steep about $15!, they do returns but it will cost you!.

Don't forget that US & UK cup sizing is different & varies between different manufacturers & sometimes styles! For instance I am a H cup in Fantasie & Freya & an HH in Panache!.

This website gives a clue to what I mean, but note its about three years out of date!

http://www.plussizebras.info/size.html

I would try & find a store in the US near where you live who would be willing to order you bras so that you could try them on in the store. That would mean that you get properly fitted (hopefully) & don't have the hassle of sending any back.

As for the "cold nipples" under the bra -tell me about! - my nips are supersensitive to changes in temperature. I had a summer job two years ago in a factory with no air-con, they messed up my pay & I had to go over to fianance at a certain time. Well the office area had air con & it was really cold compared to the factory, I nipped into the loo (rest room to you!) befoe seeing them & I could see my nips rock hard in the mirror. I could have died!. When I went into the office it was full of mostly old men & I could see hem all looking in my direction!

I learned from that, nowadays I get silicone nipple covers or petals which hold them down -get them on e-bay. Also good for nights out as the same thing happens to me when I see a hot guy!
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