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post Feb 26 2008, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(CanCan @ Feb 27 2008, 04:07 AM) *
That's a great idea. It would be great to cut out the middle man. After all, doctors don't seem to want to use one to do a wet prep, why don't we do it then? And judging from how expensive health insurance is in this country, why not just factor this into it. I mean really, health insurance is running about 2 or 3 hundred a month, so what if a microscope is a few hundred. Even if you go to a walk-in clinic to be tested, I don't know about you guys, but me, I've had to wait at least 3 hours per visit to be seen. Multiply this by what you are worth per hour at work, and it would easily pay off the microscope.

I'm looking on the internet now, and there seems to be a wide range of microcopes out there.. which one were you using? I am guessing that the more powerful ones are more expensive. Do you have an idea of what it would cost for one good enough to get the job done?


Let me get in touch with someone regarding the microscopes. I bought one off ebay and it was not that expensive. When I had bv I used it. Let me get all the info you all need and I'll post it by friday. It is really not that hard to do/read.
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post Feb 26 2008, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(neverending @ Feb 26 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Green discharge is consistent with Trich or Gonerhea (sp?).

Instead of going to the doctor all the time you all could buy your own high powered microscope and do your own wet preps. It's really not hard to do and I could teach you all how to do it and what to look for. It's very easy and even though I was never an MT, I was an assistant to one and she taught me how to do them. I got so good, she let me do them by myself. So, if you want to learn, let me know and I'll figure out some way to teach you via internet.

That's a great idea. It would be great to cut out the middle man. After all, doctors don't seem to want to use one to do a wet prep, why don't we do it then? And judging from how expensive health insurance is in this country, why not just factor this into it. I mean really, health insurance is running about 2 or 3 hundred a month, so what if a microscope is a few hundred. Even if you go to a walk-in clinic to be tested, I don't know about you guys, but me, I've had to wait at least 3 hours per visit to be seen. Multiply this by what you are worth per hour at work, and it would easily pay off the microscope.

I'm looking on the internet now, and there seems to be a wide range of microcopes out there.. which one were you using? I am guessing that the more powerful ones are more expensive. Do you have an idea of what it would cost for one good enough to get the job done?
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post Feb 26 2008, 08:16 PM
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y'know...

I had a thought.

I should back up here...I have re-curring bv, basically when I have sex it comes back....so as a preventative, after sex I insert a boric acid capsule and that takes care of it.

It seems like a lot of us get it in response to sex...I'm presuming that is "non-condom" sex, where semen is disrupting the vaginal PH???

So...having read a bunch of articles about how various foods that men eat/drink can affect the flavor of semen, I am also wondering if anybody's looked into the thought of diet affecting the PH of semen, specifically making it more acidic??

I mean, if I can get my BV more under control where I don't have to use boric acid, by, let's say, feeding my guy lots of pineapple before sex(just as an example)....that'd be really cool.

It's an interesting thought, anyway.


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post Feb 26 2008, 06:23 PM
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thank you for the info on boric acid i am going to try that next

no it is not yeast thought of that already and thought ..........great something easy to fix but no such luck lol

i am glad i found this forum my hubby is less than sympathetic (big surprise) this really isn't something I share with my co workers or girlfriends either lol

I can also tell eveyone..............if a MD is not an GYN then that MD usually has no clue about this...............they are taught in school that it is an acute not a chronic infection (the ER MD's I work with have no clue) while many many women only have a problem with this for a short time as all of you know this can be very very chonic

I spoke at great length with my GYN who was the first to explain to me that this was now a chronic condition and alternative meds were the best idea at this point, I am very fortunate to have a Gyn that has a clue however he has also told me that it seems the key is stabilizing an unknown "good " bacteria strain and what he has told me is that it could be that millons of different stains that have yet to be identified live in a healthy vagina. He was the one who told me about the fem dolph and ultimate flora and folic acid but beyond that he isn't much help.

thank you so much for your info
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post Feb 26 2008, 05:40 PM
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In reference to the greenish discharge----MG86 was using the yeast arrest and don't they have a green tint on them? (which would then cause the greenage?)

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post Feb 26 2008, 05:39 PM
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She doesn't have trich, guys! She was saying she had a green discharge from the yeast arrest. It is made with boric acid and a mix of herbs, and it causes a green discharge when it runs back out.
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post Feb 26 2008, 01:01 PM
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Trich is a greenish discharge. I would suggest going to the Gyno or they have a detector now over the counter if you don't have time to go to the Gyno. Check your drug store.

QUOTE(neverending @ Feb 26 2008, 01:39 PM) *
Green discharge is consistent with Trich or Gonerhea (sp?).

Instead of going to the doctor all the time you all could buy your own high powered microscope and do your own wet preps. It's really not hard to do and I could teach you all how to do it and what to look for. It's very easy and even though I was never an MT, I was an assistant to one and she taught me how to do them. I got so good, she let me do them by myself. So, if you want to learn, let me know and I'll figure out some way to teach you via internet.

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post Feb 26 2008, 12:58 PM
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Thank you for the welcome! Hehe as for the celabacy part...I don't think my boyfriend of four yrs. would like that! That's why I find this so strange that it's happening now (since July). I am also in menopause and that's what the Doc is attributing it to. First it was yeast infections and now this BV. I think I would rather still be having my period instead of going through all this crap! I hope your cramps went away and that you feel better.

QUOTE(SpRiNkLeS @ Feb 26 2008, 03:42 AM) *
Also hello to all the newbies: JJ27, ellie-a, maluso76, kinkaju, lisa1, JoanClayton, stillhottie, lulubare… and whateverfitsyou. I tried to go back as far as my last post since I haven’t been here in a while. Also Konphusion my twin! You changed your pic!!!!! It looks so cute! Don’t tell me those are your legs too…!

Kinkaju: Upon my initial research of BV a year ago I read all about apple cider vinegar douching. THEN I read from a doctor that despite all the rave reviews, ACV will actually help bring on BV and make it worse. So I threw out the bottle I had just bought. That was then this is now…if my TTO doesn’t work I might just try an ACV douche since yours has worked wonders for you. Oh gosh just listen to me, Ms. I’ll NEVER douche again!

JJ: It might sound weird but becoming celibate kinda makes you feel stronger in a sense. I am currently practicing celibacy and although it is easy for me (being a single mother leaves you no time to date) I would encourage you (whether you were joking or not) or anyone else who is thinking about this to totally try it. There are times when I miss the penis SO FU**ing bad but then I just do an extra workout and kick butt, it gets out all your aggression. And it the end you get a rockin body. Plus less bouts of BV for anyone who has problems with the penis triggering it.

Damn these cramps are totally killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHH! They are so intense and I don't understand why.

Vicodin, my old friend, where r u when I need you?!!!

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post Feb 26 2008, 12:56 PM
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I am wondering about the boric acid. I do not know where to find them or what is the best way to make the capsules?

Thanks for your help


Hey RN... Click Here here's where I found my boric acid pretty cheap. they have two sizes: 4oz and 12oz and the size 00 capsules to use. As far as filling them, I've found it easier to make a small funnel out of paper or fold a small piece of paper in half and pour the powder into the paper's crease. For me the funnel is easiest. And as the powder fills the capsule, slowly remove it until the capsule is full then cap it.

The boric has been a God-send at keeping the discharge and smell at bay. I just advise that you wear a pantyliner or very thin pad because the boric acid will leak out as a clear fluid.

Good luck babe. Oh yeah, the TTO does burn like crazy if you don't dilute it. I've never tried dipping my capsules in it- i just use a few drops in a douche every now and then.


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post Feb 26 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(SpRiNkLeS @ Feb 26 2008, 09:29 AM) *
I SMELL LIKE SHIT AGAIN.

Hi ladies! I’ve been very busy lately and unfortunately because of this I haven’t been taking my “maintenance” pills like I should. So now I smell like poop. NOOOOOOOOOOOO! No! NO! No! This is so not fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It first came on about an hour after one of my daily workouts. The ammonia smell lasted 5 hours and then went away. Back to the faint salt and vinegar smell again (that cheese aroma only lasted 2 ½ days) that I’ve been having. So then the next day AGAIN after my workout the ammonia smell comes back and AGAIN only lasts 5 hours until it goes away only to bring the salt back. Well low and behold today after taking it easy and only going on a brisk walk pushing my kid’s stroller around the neighborhood I take a shower and then about an hour later I realize that the lingering poop smell was not coming from the DiaperGeine nor did my son pass baby gas. That rotten shit smell is coming from my kitty!!!!!!!!! Well fu** ain’t this just pleasant.

To top this all off I’m having major pre-period cramps which is crazy because I NEVER have cramps before my period. JUST GREAT! I feel like shit and I smell like shit. You know it’s like one of those days where you just HATE being a girl. Why can’t men go through some monthly crap like this? NOT FAIR.

I think I am going to try using TTO tonight. The bottle’s been sitting on my shelf for a while now still unused. I have to be honest I am not ok with douching at all BUT to get rid of this smell before my period starts I think I’ll give it a try. The one time I douched was late last year and I used the HP mix that everyone was talking about. My BV was SO BAD at work after that douche that I really thought I was going to die I was so embarrassed. TRAUMATIZATION right there let me tell you.


WOW! You are funny as hell. Everything will get better. Just keep trying different things until something works hun and VICODIN<------ If your out, try alcohol when your feeling down. It's a anti-depressant. When I'm down and out of anti anxiety/ depressant meds, I just buy a couple of bottles .tongue.gif

RN WITH BV:My husband suxs too. Are you sure you have bv by itself or do you have bv with yeast? Because yeast is sticky/ thick. It may be a combination of both. Sorry to say, but your the RN hun, so you know better than I do.
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(CarrieBradshaw @ Feb 25 2008, 10:40 PM) *
i know everyone is different, but i didn't think green discharge was a symptom of BV... huh.gif .but i could be wrong....i would try the OBGYN....sorry hun!! I hope you feel better soon....


Green discharge is consistent with Trich or Gonerhea (sp?).

Instead of going to the doctor all the time you all could buy your own high powered microscope and do your own wet preps. It's really not hard to do and I could teach you all how to do it and what to look for. It's very easy and even though I was never an MT, I was an assistant to one and she taught me how to do them. I got so good, she let me do them by myself. So, if you want to learn, let me know and I'll figure out some way to teach you via internet.
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post Feb 26 2008, 08:28 AM
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OK scratch last question, reading more and figured out the tea tree oil.............however i am reading that undiluted it can cause burns, do you dilute it before dipping the fem dolph caps? and still confused over the boric acid?
thanks so much

btw.......the peroxide has worked as well as the RX meds, I would say for me it helps control it but not cure it if other methods helps control it better I am willing to try it.

Does anywone else feel completely run down and have lower back soreness when BV flares up?
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post Feb 26 2008, 07:58 AM
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also...............what is TTO?
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post Feb 26 2008, 07:54 AM
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Hi I am new to this forum. I am a RN and have some basic knowledge of the body but had no idea about BV until I was told I had it. I have been with the same man for 15 years but he cheated and at the time I had an IUD and that was the start of my battle with BV.

I am not on the pill and the IUD was removed. I have been on the usual meds (metro, clindamycin, and augmentin) My husband was treated several times and I was on several meds at once to try to get rid of it.

My GYN has told me that they just don't know enough about BV he is very open to alternative treatments and has been very helpful in at least trying to treat me.

Over the counter methods I have tried are: Fem dolphilus and ultimate flora, folic acid, all three I have taken faithfully for a year. I have also started douching with 1/2 hydrogen peroxide and 1/2 water I have done this 2x a day for past 4 months. This seams to help a great deal with the smell and discharge.

However when I have sex the discharge is still very very thick and almost sticky (usually it is completly clear or sorta whitish but always thick and sticky) My periods seem to make it much worse. Now the outer aspect of my vagina itches unless i pour the peroxide over it too. Very frustrating.

I am wondering about the boric acid. I do not know where to find them or what is the best way to make the capsules?

Thanks for your help
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post Feb 26 2008, 02:33 AM
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SPRINKLES BABAYYY! Whats up twin!!

Nahhh unfortunately those aren't my legs but I thought that pic was hot! HAHA I've got pudgy little short legs LOL and I'd probably break my neck in those heels.

Sorry your bv came back! Mine is back too, and the period smell just amplified it! Gaaaah fish and buttermilk, so very lovely. I should market that fragrance LMAO!

And as far as celibacy - hell i feel like I am. I haven't had any in a while and I'm married. Jeez. Seems like everytime I do have sex it comes back. But last time I went a whole week and a half without a smell or discharge or anything. I was so happy and humped like rabbits that whole week LMAO I guess that triggered it and my period.


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post Feb 26 2008, 02:25 AM
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Also hello to all the newbies: JJ27, ellie-a, maluso76, kinkaju, lisa1, JoanClayton, stillhottie, lulubare… and whateverfitsyou. I tried to go back as far as my last post since I haven’t been here in a while. Also Konphusion my twin! You changed your pic!!!!! It looks so cute! Don’t tell me those are your legs too…!

Kinkaju: Upon my initial research of BV a year ago I read all about apple cider vinegar douching. THEN I read from a doctor that despite all the rave reviews, ACV will actually help bring on BV and make it worse. So I threw out the bottle I had just bought. That was then this is now…if my TTO doesn’t work I might just try an ACV douche since yours has worked wonders for you. Oh gosh just listen to me, Ms. I’ll NEVER douche again!

JJ: It might sound weird but becoming celibate kinda makes you feel stronger in a sense. I am currently practicing celibacy and although it is easy for me (being a single mother leaves you no time to date) I would encourage you (whether you were joking or not) or anyone else who is thinking about this to totally try it. There are times when I miss the penis SO FU**ing bad but then I just do an extra workout and kick butt, it gets out all your aggression. And it the end you get a rockin body. Plus less bouts of BV for anyone who has problems with the penis triggering it.

Damn these cramps are totally killing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHH! They are so intense and I don't understand why.

Vicodin, my old friend, where r u when I need you?!!!
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post Feb 26 2008, 02:12 AM
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I SMELL LIKE SHIT AGAIN.

Hi ladies! I’ve been very busy lately and unfortunately because of this I haven’t been taking my “maintenance” pills like I should. So now I smell like poop. NOOOOOOOOOOOO! No! NO! No! This is so not fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It first came on about an hour after one of my daily workouts. The ammonia smell lasted 5 hours and then went away. Back to the faint salt and vinegar smell again (that cheese aroma only lasted 2 ½ days) that I’ve been having. So then the next day AGAIN after my workout the ammonia smell comes back and AGAIN only lasts 5 hours until it goes away only to bring the salt back. Well low and behold today after taking it easy and only going on a brisk walk pushing my kid’s stroller around the neighborhood I take a shower and then about an hour later I realize that the lingering poop smell was not coming from the DiaperGeine nor did my son pass baby gas. That rotten shit smell is coming from my kitty!!!!!!!!! Well fu** ain’t this just pleasant.

To top this all off I’m having major pre-period cramps which is crazy because I NEVER have cramps before my period. JUST GREAT! I feel like shit and I smell like shit. You know it’s like one of those days where you just HATE being a girl. Why can’t men go through some monthly crap like this? NOT FAIR.

I think I am going to try using TTO tonight. The bottle’s been sitting on my shelf for a while now still unused. I have to be honest I am not ok with douching at all BUT to get rid of this smell before my period starts I think I’ll give it a try. The one time I douched was late last year and I used the HP mix that everyone was talking about. My BV was SO BAD at work after that douche that I really thought I was going to die I was so embarrassed. TRAUMATIZATION right there let me tell you.
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post Feb 25 2008, 06:06 PM
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It's back bcuz I got my period. Lovely!

MG86 -- have you tried the regular boric acid? I keep hearing about green leakage with the yeast arrest things.. yUck! THe regular boric leakage is clear.


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post Feb 25 2008, 03:28 PM
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Thank you all for responding!! I haven't ordered anything yet since I'm still confused on which way to go. I just got off Clindesse and waiting to see how long this last. Did you every feel sore/a slight burning on the outside the day after sex when you had BV? You all spoke about a nasty odor but I didn't experience that just a white, pasty discharge on my undies. This is so annoying that sometimes I feel I should become celibate so I can be normal in my VAJJ again! sad.gif
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(mg86 @ Feb 23 2008, 09:17 AM) *
well THEN i had my glorious period, seemed to be doing ok for a few days right after...inserted a yeast arrest capsule just in case..the next day - back to my discharge and disgusting odor!! ugh! i only have a few yeast arrest left and honestly I do not want to be using them regularly because the discharge is very unpleasant and heaven forbid I be intimate with someone and they see this weird greenish paste coming out! laugh.gif


i know everyone is different, but i didn't think green discharge was a symptom of BV... huh.gif .but i could be wrong....i would try the OBGYN....sorry hun!! I hope you feel better soon....
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