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KeraBear
post May 27 2009, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(Persiflager @ May 27 2009, 10:47 AM) *
*delurks again....not being a very good lurker*

Hey KeraBear! I'm glad you've found the responses helpful. I lurk in this thread a lot because it's such a joyous, body-positive place.


Isn't it though?!?

QUOTE(Persiflager @ May 27 2009, 10:47 AM) *
Hi Geoff! I agree with AP - I didn't find any of what you said offensive, it was just a little bit inappropriate to leap straight in (given that you are addressing a 16-year-old girl on the subject of her breasts). Also, the fantastic ladies who post in this thread generally celebrate small-booby hotness without dissing those of us who are more substantially built.

It would make us very happy if you would stick around and join in the chat on some of the threads that don't relate to breasts or sex. There are men who post happily in this forum and are welcomed, and they are pretty awesome.

ETA: If you're not sure what threads to head for, ask in the community forum or newbies thread.

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Yeah, good point. GIven that he only had three posts AND was chatting up a 16 year old about her breasts IS a bit on the creeepy side... unsure.gif
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girl_logic
post May 27 2009, 11:45 AM
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yeah, auralpoison articulated it, it just feels strange when men zero in on this thread right off the bat.


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post May 27 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(auralpoison @ May 27 2009, 09:25 AM) *
...you didn't wait to see if it was gonna be that kind of party before you stuck your dick in the mashed potatoes.


Aural, it's lines like this that make me love you! wub.gif




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Persiflager
post May 27 2009, 09:47 AM
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*delurks again....not being a very good lurker*

Hey KeraBear! I'm glad you've found the responses helpful. I lurk in this thread a lot because it's such a joyous, body-positive place.

Hi Geoff! I agree with AP - I didn't find any of what you said offensive, it was just a little bit inappropriate to leap straight in (given that you are addressing a 16-year-old girl on the subject of her breasts). Also, the fantastic ladies who post in this thread generally celebrate small-booby hotness without dissing those of us who are more substantially built.

It would make us very happy if you would stick around and join in the chat on some of the threads that don't relate to breasts or sex. There are men who post happily in this forum and are welcomed, and they are pretty awesome.

ETA: If you're not sure what threads to head for, ask in the community forum or newbies thread.

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auralpoison
post May 27 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(geoff @ May 27 2009, 06:04 AM) *
auralpoison,
I definitely tried to make it clear that I wasn't re-stating things because of any "nothing a woman says is true unless a man validates it" attitude, but simply because it was a first-person view. I apologize if it sounded patronizing to anyone; it certainly wasn't the intent.


Geoff, I know you were not trying to offend or be malicious. I do appreciate the fact that you did take the time to introduce yourself & that you didn't come across as a total dick. I do. Thanks! BUT. After I read your newbies intro I made a *leetle* wager with myself, "If Geoff's first post is in one of the breast/sex threads & he plays the same tunes as those who came before him, I will give myself a bright & shiny nickel." Clearly, I am flipping said nickel like Edward G. Robinson right now.

Look, it's like this: 98.4% of men who start posting here immediately go into the breast threads or the sex threads. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. They can't turn the cock off for a half an hour to peruse the forums for something non-physical/sexual they might be interested in talking about. They don't post about the latest book they read, they don't post any good vegan recipes, they don't post about third wave feminism, they don't post about what they think of California upholding Prop 8, they don't post about volunteer work, they don't post angst about their jobs, they don't post angst about their familes, etc. Oh, no, they boldly offer us the male persepective on our bits because that's the *most common sense* place to start addressing women that by & large align themselves with the dreaded "F word". "Tits. They're hella feminist! Let's talk about yours!"

Then, if their schtick isn't vulgar, crass or purely retarded, it's the nice/mega-cheesy guy routine: All breasts are great, guys love 'em big or small, they individually prefer smaller & are proud of it, they share an anecdote wherein they felt they were being judged by their appearance & how they dealt with it, again all breasts are great, & we should love our bodies, ourselves.

And do our kegels. wink.gif Shout out to SmooveB!

But it often comes back to the same thing with many men, doesn't it? That breast are for adornment, for nabbing Mr. Right, female completion through male validation. They frequently don't know about/consider the variety of things that vex us about our mammaries, like buying a swimsuit, inverted nipples, menstrual breast aches, marked unevenness, fibroids, breast feeding, jogger's nipples, etc. Men don't empathize with the OTHER issues of having breasts because they don't have them, hence they can only expound about what they actually know: they are fun to look at & play with & they're happy as clams when they get to.

As far as rules/stickies go, Geoff, . . . Common Sense. I realize this is the intarwebs & all, but you basically introduced yourself to a party full of FEMINIST women, proceeded to step into a conversation about something fairly personal, & offered your not too terribly useful insight. It wasn't offensive, just inappropriate. You didn't give a host a hug, you didn't stop by the kitchen, you didn't grab a drink, you had no idle chitchat about the latest summer blockbuster, you didn't wait to see if it was gonna be that kind of party before you stuck your dick in the mashed potatoes.

I personally lurked around here for a LONG time to get the feel of the place & even then I started slowly with Media Whores before branching out into all forums. Only after a grace period did I unleash the unholy hell that is AP upon Busties & by then? It was too late for them all.

I see no reason for you to leave, Geoff. Watch, listen, join in where it's appropriate. You could probably fit in just fine with a little bit of forethought & time. You might want to remember your audience here: LOTS of grown damned women (And a few men!) that don't suffer fools lightly. Assclowns? Get ridden out on a rail by angry Lounge villagers with pitchforks & torches.


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KeraBear
post May 27 2009, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ May 26 2009, 03:06 PM) *
Kera Bear, I second what everyone said, and YES, it does get better as you get older. Actually, TONS of things get better, or at least I can speak for myself--body image, feeling empowered, feeling independent, sex got better, etc.

I was never athletic in high school but I started in my 20s and I loved the way it made me appreciate my bod for the marvelous instrument it is. I was into karate for a long time (surprise, surprise, ha!) and I actually loved the way my streamlined boobage was an asset in the dojo. Are you on any teams or can you join a club or after-school thing? I bet with the right girls around you--ones who share that sporty mindset rather than those who want to be catty be-otches--you might enjoy your time at school a lot more. Maybe track, gymnastics, cheerleading--anything where speed and agility are favored--might suit you well. I may be totally off, and please tell me if I am, but it's just a thought. Even taking waks or hikes by yourself just to clear your mind and do some postive self-talk might help you feel better and balance all that negative bullshit.

And not to sound corny, but I appreciate your reaching out to the board! Sharing some wisdom and supporting a younger "smallie" makes me feel good!


Yeah, to answer your question, I am on the track team. I do get some playful teasing there but it is mild. Probably because there are gals there who wish they had smaller breasts. :-) Heh...

Thanks to all who have helped me out so far. Yes, even Geoff. The "male perspective" was helpful anyways. He seemed okay. This board helps me stay grounded and I appreciate that very much.
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girl_logic
post May 27 2009, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(oceangirl @ May 26 2009, 02:37 AM) *
I second the comments about playing up different parts of your body. If you're self-conscious about your breasts play up your legs or something. I used to always be self-conscious about my legs because I'm kind of knock kneed but my sister-in-law tells me I have fantastic legs so I bought shorty shorts this summer for the first time ever. I'm psyched to wear them! It's fun to try out new clothing styles.


I'm also slightly knock-kneed (a curve inward at the knee) with killer gams. Knock em dead! I'm willing to bet it appears more as shapeliness than knock-kneedness.


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girl_logic
post May 27 2009, 07:40 AM
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*delurks*
I don't even post in this thread as much as I read here, but every time a man posts here, I read it and I feel like he's saying everything while looking directly at my chest. It's such a weird feeling.


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geoff
post May 27 2009, 06:04 AM
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auralpoison,
I definitely tried to make it clear that I wasn't re-stating things because of any "nothing a woman says is true unless a man validates it" attitude, but simply because it was a first-person view. I apologize if it sounded patronizing to anyone; it certainly wasn't the intent.

For that matter, I'm sorry for offending or angering anyone by posting in the first place.

I admit I didn't read all 95 (!) pages of this thread before posting, but I did read the latest few pages and the first few, and I absolutely looked carefully through the top-level forum threads for any introductory rules or "things a newbie should know" topics. That's usually enough to establish any local etiquette in a forum. You might want to post some sort of sticky topic where a newbie would find it to say, "Men, these are personal topics; please respect that and don't post here."

Anyway, I'm not a troll, so if you don't want me here, I'll leave.
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Persiflager
post May 27 2009, 05:20 AM
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*delurks*

Kudos for introducing himself in the newbies thread first.

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auralpoison
post May 27 2009, 02:42 AM
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Yeah, he's a MWET (Men Who Explain Things) telling us stuff we pretty much already know, but a *polite* MWET. He lacks the smug, high-toned asshole-ry of a cowardly PLoverRay or a Lord of I Know Everything, You Silly Little Wimmins Funk.

That being said, I really really really wish guys would just stay the fuck out of the breast threads. They basically repeat everything every guy that's ever come in here has ever said (Which they don't understand because they are generally too lazy to read beyond the first page.) just with different levels of tedium.

We know men like breasts & that it's not really that big of a deal, but that doesn't mean we aren't still plagued with insecurity. And men are no better when it comes to body issues: How many times is ED thrown in our faces a day, ladies? Viagra, Cialis, Levitra, Enzyte, PosTVac, etc. We aren't the only ones buying into the bigger is better myth.


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Aithinne
post May 27 2009, 01:20 AM
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Hey, he's a lot better than the last guy who posted on this forum. *shudders*. I especially liked this part:

"I got picked on in high school... But when I was dating a girl, that's one thing that the other guys congratulated me on, and it was one of the times I felt the most included. And you guessed it -- she had small breasts. (Small, beautiful breasts!) The other guys made fun of me for just about everything in high school, but never once for dating a girl with small breasts. It didn't matter a bit to the guys, even in high school."
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pollystyrene
post May 26 2009, 10:53 PM
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geoff
post May 26 2009, 10:40 PM
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Hope this post isn't too long, but I joined just to reply here, so I guess I have a few things to say. smile.gif

KeraBear,
I thought I might toss in a guy's perspective. A lot of the women here were exactly right, but I think if I were in your situation and had mainly other women telling me not to worry, I might have a little trouble believing that's really how men think. So a lot of this is just to reinforce what they said -- to assure you that they're right, and many men really do like smaller breasts.

First, parts of your original post:
QUOTE(KeraBear @ May 23 2009, 09:39 AM) *
I am 16 years old and don't even fit into a AA cup. They seem like they are in that quasi-"almost boob" stage of an 11-year-old. I am also short, skinny, with a boyish figure. Every time i seem to get to the point where I am getting close to loving my body for what it is, somebody seems to tear me down about it. Interestingly enough, it's mostly other GIRLS and not the guys. Why do you suppose that is?

Also, please tell me things will get better after high school. Thanks! tongue.gif

Angie's right; high school girls really do tear each other down, and it's mostly because they're self-conscious about themselves and want to redirect the negative attention. You could pick out their flaws to "get even," but then you'll be as bad as they are, and what may be worse, they'll just hate you and fight you and pick on you that much more.

It really does get better after high school. People almost entirely stop teasing you. My dad told me that, over and over, when I got picked on in high school (well, not for breast size). I believed him, and he was right, but I remember it was little consolation at the time. Just hold on and dream of the future; it will come. Angie also nailed it when she said you don't have much choice in high school. You're forced to be there, all day, every day, with those same people. It gets much better when you're not forced to be around specific people all the time.

Aithinne and oceangirl said that most men don't care about breast size or that they really like small breasts. And you noticed the guys aren't making fun of you. That's because they truly don't care about breast size. They care about breasts, just not the size! I mentioned I got picked on in high school... But when I was dating a girl, that's one thing that the other guys congratulated me on, and it was one of the times I felt the most included. And you guessed it -- she had small breasts. (Small, beautiful breasts!) The other guys made fun of me for just about everything in high school, but never once for dating a girl with small breasts. It didn't matter a bit to the guys, even in high school.

QUOTE(karategrrl @ May 19 2009, 07:53 AM) *
One thing I've learned here is that the small boobie lovers are out there! They're just not always so vocal.

Well, if you haven't already figured it out, I'm definitely a man who likes smaller breasts. And I have been more vocal about it the last five or ten years, and I've found that other men feel the same way. I think they're just afraid to be the first to admit it, because, just like women, men get the message from society that "real" men like huge boobs.

So when I'm with a male friend or two, and one mentions a woman nearby with big breasts, I say out loud what comes to mind: "Meh, those are a bit bigger than I like." And very frequently, after one man has dared to admit that, the others will then agree and say, "Yeah, I actually kinda like smaller ones better, too." I used to think my preferences were different, but I've gradually realized they're extremely common.

The real secret is: men just like breasts, and the vast majority of men truly don't care what size they are. I've never seen any man refuse to go out with a woman (or even to decide not to ask her out) because of the size of her breasts.

One more comment on KeraBear's post: You said you're 16. I've noticed that most women's breasts seem to keep growing until they're 20-22, or maybe even later. So, IMO, a woman who is the "perfect size" at 16 will probably be larger than I prefer by the time she's 20 or 22. If you think you're too small at 16, you'll probably turn out perfect! Even if they don't grow any more, I guarantee you're still fine, and most men will agree. Stand up straight, show a healthy confidence in your body, and give a warm, friendly smile, and men will melt.

P.S. I'm not exactly sure what "special boobie handshakes" are, but from Aithinne's description, I'm in!
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karategrrl
post May 26 2009, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(Aithinne @ May 25 2009, 04:28 AM) *
Lol, I think if we start rubbing our tits against a man's chest in a boobie 'handshake', the smallie-loving men just might be more vocal about their appreciation. Everyone, go out and give your man a boobie handshake!


biggrin.gif Hahaha! Uh, YES, I think most men would LUUUV this! Just practice it in moderation!

Lightchested, YAY for you for branching out in the fashion area! Never let small breasts prevent you from wearing fun stuff. Actually, I think necklaces are GREAT for us gals--they add a little adornment to our chests. Also, belts are great if you have a small waist to show off. I love belts. like someone else ere said, it's all about playing up your strong points.

Kera Bear, I second what everyone said, and YES, it does get better as you get older. Actually, TONS of things get better, or at least I can speak for myself--body image, feeling empowered, feeling independent, sex got better, etc.

I was never athletic in high school but I started in my 20s and I loved the way it made me appreciate my bod for the marvelous instrument it is. I was into karate for a long time (surprise, surprise, ha!) and I actually loved the way my streamlined boobage was an asset in the dojo. Are you on any teams or can you join a club or after-school thing? I bet with the right girls around you--ones who share that sporty mindset rather than those who want to be catty be-otches--you might enjoy your time at school a lot more. Maybe track, gymnastics, cheerleading--anything where speed and agility are favored--might suit you well. I may be totally off, and please tell me if I am, but it's just a thought. Even taking waks or hikes by yourself just to clear your mind and do some postive self-talk might help you feel better and balance all that negative bullshit.

And not to sound corny, but I appreciate your reaching out to the board! Sharing some wisdom and supporting a younger "smallie" makes me feel good!
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post May 26 2009, 01:37 AM
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I second the comments about playing up different parts of your body. If you're self-conscious about your breasts play up your legs or something. I used to always be self-conscious about my legs because I'm kind of knock kneed but my sister-in-law tells me I have fantastic legs so I bought shorty shorts this summer for the first time ever. I'm psyched to wear them! It's fun to try out new clothing styles.
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post May 26 2009, 01:30 AM
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I'm 29 now and the older I get the more I realize how much MOST (almost all) guys don't care about the size of a woman's breasts. I'm a size A and I've never had a problem with a guy saying they're too small or anything. The thing I like about having small breasts is guys don't STARE right at my chest instead of looking me in the eye. I appreciate other good things about having small breasts -- like no back pain, clothes generally hang better when you've got small breasts. There are a lot of advantages to having small breasts if you actually stop and think about it.

The only annoying thing is in the summer I have a hard time finding tank tops because I'm a size A and they don't fit right. But it's no big deal I just wear t-shirts instead!

The thing is I'm grateful for healthy breasts. When I was younger I was self-conscious about having size A breasts but not now. I feel like -- take me as I am or leave me. If a guy's not going to date you because you have small breasts he's not worth your time.

The only problem is finding stuff (bras) that fit nicely and are sexy. I order off some sites online but it's hit or miss (almost always hit! yay). I want to set up an online store for size A women to order bras.

Take care and be well!

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Aithinne
post May 24 2009, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ May 19 2009, 06:53 AM) *
One thing I've learned here is that the small boobie lovers are out there! They're just not always so vocal.
<special boobie "handshakes" for all those lurking tiny tittie lovers!>


Lol, I think if we start rubbing our tits against a man's chest in a boobie 'handshake', the smallie-loving men just might be more vocal about their appreciation. Everyone, go out and give your man a boobie handshake!
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Aithinne
post May 24 2009, 11:22 PM
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High school is absolute social torture. If you can detach yourself from the hierarchy and status games, your self-esteem will be much better for it. You'll start gaining more confidence as an adult from an already more stable level. I didn't feel good enough in HS either, and not even in college for that matter. I'm also short, skinny, and got small booblets.

All I can say is DON'T let people make you feel like you're deformed or lacking or abnormal. You are not. Don't give in to the ideal woman BS! Thinking negatively about your body gets you absolutely nowhere, and is such a waste of energy and time that it's completely laughable.

I've gone through a bad phase this past year where my previously ignored self-esteem problems all spewed out and had to be dealt with. I've looked at pretty much every single website about how men feel about small breasts and non-curvy body shape and how people in general perceive those traits. Trust me, from my own findings, I can no longer lie to myself and say that men don't like small breasts or that they are not beautiful or worthy of praise in general. It's not true, and if you search around on the internet, you'll find that many people love this trait in women and think it's hot.

We've all felt the way you do here. I'd read through the posts in this thread if I were you. It might take you a few days since there are so many, but trust me, it's worth it. This board has been invaluable for boosting my own confidence and I'm sure if you read it through and stick around, it will help you too.

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lightchested, isn't it a relief to not obsess about those kinds of clothing worries? Just reading your post was relaxing.
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post May 23 2009, 07:47 PM
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Hey Kera Bear, yes to everything you asked. yes, I did get teased, yes I did always wish for them to grow, and yes it gets so much better after high school, even though they never did grow. Everyone is so self-conscious in high school, and all the girls are trying to make themselves feel better about the way they look by bringing other people down, and all the boys want the girls with big boobs, as if it's some kind of status symbol to have a well endowed girlfriend.

One thing I can say is, don't get mad at yourself for feeling bummed about it sometimes. It really was hard for me, and sometimes it just seemed like life was so unfair, it wasn't my fault my body didn't want to grow boobs! It took me a long time to change my perspective and gain my confidence. A big part of it was finding the right people to hang out with, mainly, people who love you for your intelligence and ability to have fun, not your appearance. If you're hanging out with negative people, it's really hard not to feel bad about yourself. And in high school, you don't have a lot of choice over who you spend your days with.

As I've said in this forum, probably ad nauseum, by the time I was 23, I had learned ot love my boobs at the size they are, and love my body the way it is, and spend most of my day never even thinking about it. I also learned to focus on different parts of my body, and show them off more, and appreciate what my body can do, not just how it looks. And eventually, boys get more mature and learn to appreciate a lot of different things about women and their bodies, and for the most part they get over the intense breast obsession they seem to have as teenagers (although frat boys are actually more immature. I don't understand it. Maybe it's because most of them are spoiled rich brats).
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