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post May 16 2007, 12:28 PM
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Arj75: Has your town ever heard of HIPPA? Damn, people are soooo insensitive these days. Not only do you have to worry about the damn discharge but now you have to worry about folks thinking you have HIV. People think this shit is funny but it's honestly not. I had a rumor started about me like that and I wanted die but after a while I just said fuck it. Who cares!
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post May 16 2007, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ May 16 2007, 11:18 AM) *
At what point is it a vaginal emergency to go to the doctor? Planned parenthood rescheduled me in on the 30th.

Bummer.

Will PP see you if you have an emergency?

Didn't you say you had blood in your discharge? I'd say that's an emergency. Not to mention the fever.

Your appointment is in 2 weeks. My vote is that you should try to make it to PP or another doctor sooner, if at all possible.


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post May 16 2007, 12:01 PM
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Morphia, I can only imagine the grief and sadness that you must be experiencing right now, and just trying to empathize your pain is overwelming to me. If you have insurance, keep going to the doctor until you become a pain in their ass until they refer you to a specialist.

I'm worried about maybe having a staff infection or something, I have been running a low grade fever for the past few days. At what point is it a vaginal emergency to go to the doctor? Planned parenthood rescheduled me in on the 30th. I already used the refresh earlier because I thought I was finished.... I'm not going to the hospital at a small town where I live, I do know that.

My last visit at my gyno..the best place in my town to go, they were discussing my issues out in the hall, where everyone can hear... Loudly saying.. call the hospital make sure she was checked for HIV.. I don't have HIV, but you all can understand how rumors get started I'm sure.

A lawsuit a fucking brewing???? You better believe it, especially after giving me the devils drug.
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post May 16 2007, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 16 2007, 10:08 AM) *
After all that I've dealt with I have a fucking right to be as dramatic as I want to be. My entire youth has been nothing but one big gynecological problem. So you can shut the fuck up.

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But...I think the flagyl worked.

I'm very sorry you've had so many gyno-problems. That sounds awful. And I'm so happy for you that the flagyl worked.

But that's exactly what I'm saying. You never gave the flagyl a chance to work - you've been whining every single day for a week that the flagyl wouldn't work, that it's not working, and still not working ...

And now it's working! Yay! Finally you have some relief. And I'm really glad for you.

But all that worrying did you no good, right? It just made things worse, and drove you crazy. It's clear you're just working yourself up into a hysterical state and it's not helping you.

I'm NOT saying you have no reason to be worried and upset - you've been through a lot. But you are under the care of a doctor, and you are taking medication.

So you need to calm down and stop expecting the worst. I'm not telling you these things to be mean. I think you need to hear it from someone. And since you feel compelled to continue to post here, you should accept what people have to say. I know telling someone to "calm down" is easier said than done, but you still have to try. Because what you're doing? It's no good.


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post May 16 2007, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(lori @ May 16 2007, 04:24 AM) *
Not to put you on the spot, Morphia, but aren't you taking flagyl now? And you told us it's not working. You even said you knew it wouldn't work even before you took it. But then it's a "tragedy" that you took clindamycin?

Geez, you're so overdramatic.

Look girl, I'm not trying to make fun of you. But your hysteria is kind of entertaining. You read one sentence from some website and you're freaking out on the "verge of tears." The way you're always this close to popping a vein is really quite funny.

But seriously, you're not doing yourself a lot of favors. Everyone's goal in here is to become healthy, and beat this thing, and I wish the same for you. It really makes me feel bad for you to see you get so worked up over what is probably nothing.

You need a vacation from your vagina.

(Well, I guess we all could use one.)


Lori, You just can't stop? Can You? It wasn't that one website that I read. As I said in what you quoted I'd read about Clindamycin before I even read what that site had to say. The day I was diagnosed with BV (April 9th) I did research on the best treatments for bv and thats when I read about the Clindamycin. The doctor gave me the Clindesse on the 10th. It was after my symptoms worsened and reading what this particular site said that just drove it home for me. What all of us is going through is a tragedy. This particular infection has taken so much from a lot of the women here that I can't consider it anything else. Also, you have no idea the list of gynecological problems I've had to deal with. I've probably been through so much more shit than you have already and I'm only 21. This bv is just the last straw on the camel's back for me. I've dealt with a precancerous condition (VIN) that primarily affects women in their 50's and older. I had to have that painfully lasered off of my vulva a year ago. (It was first diagnosed as herpes, so I thought I had herpes for about 6 months till they finally biopsied). I got genital warts from the bf I had before this one after having sex with him once. Had to battle those little fuckers for about 6 months. And before that I had genital molluscum contagiosum that I got from a dirty towel when I was visiting my ex in the barracks and I had to battle those for over 2 years. And now I'm dealing with the bv although I know I got it when I contracted the warts from my ex. So, I've had it for over a year. I thought I was battling yeast infections this entire time. So now that you know, if you have nothing nice to say to me then please keep your comments to yourself. So far you've been more hurtful than you've been helpful.

After all that I've dealt with I have a fucking right to be as dramatic as I want to be. My entire youth has been nothing but one big gynecological problem. So you can shut the fuck up.


To the rest of you ladies. Just wanted to remind you that I have my colpo on Friday and I'll have him check me for any infections. I'll come back and let you know how everything went. I'm afraid to say that I have a good feeling about it because I don't want to jinx it. But...I think the flagyl worked. Last night I had pain free sex that lasted longer than 3 minutes. Well, it hurt a little at first but once things started moving it didn't hurt anymore. And I don't feel the burn anymore. I felt it all day yesterday. I actually think the sex helped!
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post May 16 2007, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 16 2007, 06:37 AM) *
Horizon drugs was one I had saved in my favorites for some reason. And now that you all are talking about it, I think you're right. It took me along time to get it. I think I had to finally send an email to Customer Service, and then I finally got it, or I cancelled it?? I don't remember.

But there's tons of places online that you can buy it. Some have the 500mg some have less. I personally like the 500mg. I have the 200 as well, but it doesn't seem to work as good.

I've been stressing alot latey, hence the messages back and forth...been feeling or think I was smelling the B.V. coming back, however, had sex last night, AND ZERO SMELL. So....I agree with the whole stress thing. I think we worry so much about this shit, that we can smell it in our heads!!!! wink.gif


Jewels, I can totally relate about stressing out about the bv and then thinking that I smell it. I work in a hospital and I know some the patients have it, then I start freaking out that it's me AAARRRGGGGHH!!! I am having my monthly right now and I have been using boric suppositories, but I don't think they're working...when I used yeast arrest, Ihad no problems but with just boric capsules that I make at home it does'nt seem to work,,, so I took a tea tree suppository to work (just in case) and I kept thinking about what Lori said in her blog that using the tea tree is like a "altoid for your vagina" OMG!! I laughed so hard it almost fell out! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post May 16 2007, 08:14 AM
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I'm sure that what I'm gonna say has already been discussed on countless posts, but I'm still freaking out about the toilet paper harvesting bacteria. Please be careful when in restrooms or even your own home. These harmful bacteria are hanging around somewhere. We are just the unlucky few that have weak immunce systems and can't fight them off fast enough before everything else gets back in balance. Do you all think that simple soap and water and laundry soap can kill this stuff? I sure as hell hope so. I'm becoming germophobic. Many women have this bv, and are nasty, don't wash their hands..blah blah blah....
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post May 16 2007, 07:20 AM
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Horizon drugs was one I had saved in my favorites for some reason. And now that you all are talking about it, I think you're right. It took me along time to get it. I think I had to finally send an email to Customer Service, and then I finally got it, or I cancelled it?? I don't remember.

But there's tons of places online that you can buy it. Some have the 500mg some have less. I personally like the 500mg. I have the 200 as well, but it doesn't seem to work as good.

I've been stressing alot latey, hence the messages back and forth...been feeling or think I was smelling the B.V. coming back, however, had sex last night, AND ZERO SMELL. So....I agree with the whole stress thing. I think we worry so much about this shit, that we can smell it in our heads!!!! wink.gif
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post May 16 2007, 06:36 AM
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Just here to vent my confusion about lactobacillus bacteria...they secrete hydrogen perioxide and lactic acid. When people are sick or in high stress abnormal levels of this acid are found in the body....it's bad on the body because it wants to maintain a more basic ph 7.35-7.45 and it has to work harder. But in our smelly cats, we are having problems keeping this good bacteria...WTF? Shouldn't it be easier to keep em if we are always stressed about our stinch??? What does this other bacteria that is supossed to be (bad )secrete do scienctist even know since some of these bacteria don't even have a name yet???

Science now can grow football fields of peoples skin in labs....I want some of my own lactobacillus bacteria reproduced and inserted back in my kitty!!!!!!!
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post May 16 2007, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(sciongal @ May 15 2007, 10:03 AM) *
Hi there, before you bookmark the horizon drugs website...I ordered from them in March and still have not received anything, so I ordered from another company and received them yesterday... so dont use horizon drugs mad.gif


Hello Sciongal..
Yes, that does sound like a problem with you not receiving your order in a timely matter. If this is a pattern with this company I probably should look into another company.. Thanks for the warning..


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post May 16 2007, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 15 2007, 05:43 PM) *
I actually knew this before I took the Clindesse. But I figured "My doctor is so damn good, he couldn't possibly screw me over." Well, he did. I'll have to tell him what I know now. Its just a tragedy that its too late for me. I actually almost didn't take the Clindesse and almost requested a script for Flagyl but as I said, I trusted my doctor. I should have trusted my gut instinct.

Not to put you on the spot, Morphia, but aren't you taking flagyl now? And you told us it's not working. You even said you knew it wouldn't work even before you took it. But then it's a "tragedy" that you took clindamycin?

Geez, you're so overdramatic.

Look girl, I'm not trying to make fun of you. But your hysteria is kind of entertaining. You read one sentence from some website and you're freaking out on the "verge of tears." The way you're always this close to popping a vein is really quite funny.

But seriously, you're not doing yourself a lot of favors. Everyone's goal in here is to become healthy, and beat this thing, and I wish the same for you. It really makes me feel bad for you to see you get so worked up over what is probably nothing.

You need a vacation from your vagina.

(Well, I guess we all could use one.)


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post May 15 2007, 11:56 PM
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ok, i will go to the doctor first. thanks for the advice. it's just that i've given up on doctors and figure what's the point if she tells me the same thing every single time. well anyway i will go in a few days and let everyone know on here what happens. i have a feeling i have bv and a yeast infection. i like the lemon and garlic idea. i might try it out. smile.gif
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post May 15 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(lori @ May 16 2007, 12:12 AM) *
I guess taking vit.C supplements are also a good idea.
That is so nice of you, Aggravated! Maybe you could ask her about Clindamycin. Seems a few ladies are upset about having taken it. I'd like to know more about it, too.



Yes, please ask about the Clindamycin. That is a HUGE concern of mine....Clearly. lol.
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post May 15 2007, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 15 2007, 09:24 PM) *
Please go to the doctor first. I strongly suggest that you ALWAYS go to the doctor to make damn sure that it is what you think it is. When I feel symptoms I KNOW its bv but I make a doctors appointment just so I can hear him say it. Besides, I know there is still plenty of room for me to be wrong.

I totally agree with this.

QUOTE(NotCatEyed @ May 15 2007, 10:01 PM) *
So, I'm not fasting, but I have been eating no/low sugar diet....and I am drinking lots of very lemony water, which I find quite yummy, and I feel better!! I was itchy and uncomfortable 2 days ago, and a few bucks worth of lemons and I swear I feel a difference. I can see how the vitamin c plus the acidity are both helpful in fighting BV. I am traveling in asia so my treatment options are really limited. But when life gives you lemons!!

I think what you eat does make a difference. I've been trying to stop drinking diet soda because it is a base and we want our kitties to be more acidic. I don't know that it's going to make a huge difference, but it can only help.

I guess taking vit.C supplements are also a good idea.

QUOTE(Aggravated @ May 15 2007, 03:25 PM) *
I am going to see my gyno. tomorrow. Some of you have mentioned not having insurance and are unable to go to the doctor. If any of you have any questions about some of the things you are using that you would like me to ask her about, let me know. I will check back here before I go to bed tonight.

That is so nice of you, Aggravated! Maybe you could ask her about Clindamycin. Seems a few ladies are upset about having taken it. I'd like to know more about it, too.


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post May 15 2007, 10:44 PM
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I have a new BV treatment option that I like. I thought I could share it with you ladies. I was talking to a friend who is very fond of the lemon juice/cayenne/maple syrup fasts for flushing out the system, and I thought the acidity of the lemon juice may be of help to me(of course nix the sugar because that wouldn't help at all).
So, I'm not fasting, but I have been eating no/low sugar diet....and I am drinking lots of very lemony water, which I find quite yummy, and I feel better!! I was itchy and uncomfortable 2 days ago, and a few bucks worth of lemons and I swear I feel a difference. I can see how the vitamin c plus the acidity are both helpful in fighting BV. I am traveling in asia so my treatment options are really limited. But when life gives you lemons!!

I also am using garlic clove suppositories, which is another way of reducing symptoms. So, anyway, if people are looking for non-antibiotic remedies this might be one of them worth trying. It's cheap and natural: Garlic and lemons. I am going to add some hot pepper to the lemon juice if I can tolerate it, because that is supposed to also really help. I will give an update on how well it works in the longer term.
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post May 15 2007, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 15 2007, 09:33 PM) *
i didn't know that! my doctor prescribed it to me when i was first diagnosed with it too.
i read somewhere too that you are not supposed to take clindesse more than once within 90 days. the first time i took clindesse i got a yeast infection, but i wasn't sure what it was so i went back to the doctor and she said it was still the bv and gave me the 2nd clindesse. which made my yeast infection worse and probably messed me up with bv even more. ohh this makes me so pissed!!!!!! and you know what? i saw that doctor maybe 2 more times after that, and then the 3rd time i went to go see here (cause i still wasn't better) she was gone... good sign right? probably got fired. this was back in august.

it is really frustrating and annoying when you find out these things you wish you would have known before. i hope you feel better morphia, i know exactly how you feel.

anywayyyy... my update: i was good for a while after i did the flagyl vaginally and took azo yeast and rephresh. but when i got my period i stopped using the rephresh. now it's back badddd. even after i startede using the rephresh again. so i think i might insert another flagyl and then start with the rephresh again. but i'm really really itchy lately. i treated myself twice for a yeast infection (first time with yeast guard homeopathic yeast infection crap and then 2nd time with monistat) so i don't know if i'm itchy from a yeast infection or bv or both. so i don't know what to do. i don't know if i should go to the doctor first and find out what it is or just insert the flagyl. maybe i should go to the doctor first since i might have a yeast infection and flagyl will only make it worse. blahhh I HATE THIS!!!! mad.gif


Please go to the doctor first. I strongly suggest that you ALWAYS go to the doctor to make damn sure that it is what you think it is. When I feel symptoms I KNOW its bv but I make a doctors appointment just so I can hear him say it. Besides, I know there is still plenty of room for me to be wrong.

Does anyone here know how long Flagyl stays in your sytem and fights off the BV?
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post May 15 2007, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 15 2007, 12:25 AM) *
Ok, I know I said I wasn't coming back but I can't leave. I'm terrified right now. I found this at the vaginosis site: "Clindesse should not be prescibed for this condition". I also read somewhere else on the site that it shouldn't be prescribed for a first time diagnosis. Well my doctor prescribed it to me for my first time diagnosis! I'm just scared and trying to hold back tears as I think about the fact that I could have had this beat with Flagyl the first time around and I'm so angry with my doctor.


i didn't know that! my doctor prescribed it to me when i was first diagnosed with it too.

QUOTE(lori @ May 15 2007, 12:44 AM) *
How many times have you used Clindesse? Unless you used it twice in 90 days (according to this guy), you probably have nothing to worry about. Your body isn't screwed up forever, so you need to calm down.

i read somewhere too that you are not supposed to take clindesse more than once within 90 days. the first time i took clindesse i got a yeast infection, but i wasn't sure what it was so i went back to the doctor and she said it was still the bv and gave me the 2nd clindesse. which made my yeast infection worse and probably messed me up with bv even more. ohh this makes me so pissed!!!!!! and you know what? i saw that doctor maybe 2 more times after that, and then the 3rd time i went to go see here (cause i still wasn't better) she was gone... good sign right? probably got fired. this was back in august.

it is really frustrating and annoying when you find out these things you wish you would have known before. i hope you feel better morphia, i know exactly how you feel.

anywayyyy... my update: i was good for a while after i did the flagyl vaginally and took azo yeast and rephresh. but when i got my period i stopped using the rephresh. now it's back badddd. even after i startede using the rephresh again. so i think i might insert another flagyl and then start with the rephresh again. but i'm really really itchy lately. i treated myself twice for a yeast infection (first time with yeast guard homeopathic yeast infection crap and then 2nd time with monistat) so i don't know if i'm itchy from a yeast infection or bv or both. so i don't know what to do. i don't know if i should go to the doctor first and find out what it is or just insert the flagyl. maybe i should go to the doctor first since i might have a yeast infection and flagyl will only make it worse. blahhh I HATE THIS!!!! mad.gif
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post May 15 2007, 06:56 PM
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I hope he replies and does so in a timely manner. Let us know whatever you find out. I'm about to finish my period and I have the rephresh shit..which the directions said I should have used before I started my period..afraid to use anything else inside her at this point..I know I have damaged the tissue up there. I have to be very careful for a while.
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post May 15 2007, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ May 15 2007, 07:28 PM) *
The more I read about Clidamycin, the more I know it is made by the devil. I wish I would have never used that. I read several articles confirming the same information..wipes out both good and bad bacteria.



I actually knew this before I took the Clindesse. But I figured "My doctor is so damn good, he couldn't possibly screw me over." Well, he did. I'll have to tell him what I know now. Its just a tragedy that its too late for me. I actually almost didn't take the Clindesse and almost requested a script for Flagyl but as I said, I trusted my doctor. I should have trusted my gut instinct. I emailed that Dr. Christian guy telling him how my doctor gave me the Clindesse as my first ever round of treatment and asked him if he could advise on where to go from here, since the Flagyl didn't work. I hope he responds.
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post May 15 2007, 06:11 PM
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The more I read about Clidamycin, the more I know it is made by the devil. I wish I would have never used that. I read several articles confirming the same information..wipes out both good and bad bacteria.

Jewels, ... the herbal products that I listed earlier on here..have they already been tried by you all? Because I have been reading about bv for months(not at this site) and thats the first I found of those...

All I know is I'm am volunteering myself as a lab rat to the first bv research group I can find.


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