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post Sep 29 2009, 02:59 PM
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Omg I hate hate HATE when women with figures like audrey hepburn ( or me for that matter!) are referred to as little boys! Or boyish! I have gotten that many times in my life and have also heard it all around me. Its also in magazines where they do features on how to dress for your body type and the woman with small breasts is always included in the body type label "boy figure". There's curvy, petite, full-figured,tall, and what do we get, boy figure! I don't know how they can possibly print that and not think its insulting. Do they seriously think I want to be referred to as a little boy at any point in my life, much less as a grown woman??
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post Sep 29 2009, 01:46 PM
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Exactly! and this guy is a fan of Paris Hilton (and says other guys are too). Nothing against the girl (shes kinda small boobed herself) but loook at this!!! :
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0crTBBM3gAc/R1Mw...rey-hepburn.jpg

She's been airbrushed to smitherines and still doesntcome close to the original imo. wtf. I'm pretty sure someone like Paris Hilton couldnt take a photo as simple yet breathtaking as most of the ones of hepburn. It's compensated with makeup, skimpy clothes, airbrushing and unatural suggestive poses. If guys prefer this to audrey hepburn then its no wonder so many of us girls today are ending up with major body issues. I'm not saying I look anything like hepburn etc, but I'd much rather have women like her to aspire to rather than the trashy sexualised celebs of today.

Sometimes I just avoid asking men certain questions because I know their answers will be ones that bug me for ages afterwards.
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Aithinne
post Sep 29 2009, 11:43 AM
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I know! Women like Hepburn are rare gems! I mean, how could a man think this woman looked male or ugly? Makes no sense...

Pics:

Doesn't look like a male figure to me..

Boy? NO!

How about this website? Has a whole bunch of pics.. and I don't see anything masculine about this woman.

I think it's about damn time that our culture change and include women with her figure as women. Every time I hear a male talk about how women who aren't naturally curvy are 'little boys', I want to scream, rip my hair out, and attack their penises until THEY look like LITTLE GIRLS. Then THEY can see how it fucking feels!!! Maybe then people can stop being so fucking insensitive and hurtful. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

GRRRRRRRR. Sorry all.. This topic is so sensitive to me. It makes me incredibly angry. It makes my blood absolutely boil.



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karategrrl
post Sep 29 2009, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(starship @ Sep 29 2009, 12:02 AM) *
Kindof reminded me of how I was talking about how gorgeous audrey hepburn is with a guy I like and he said that its always girls that admire her looks and men arent usually interested, and suggested that it was to do with her being 'boyish'. Im pretty sure he was talking about her boobs. Bummer. He also said she'd probably be stunning in the flesh- which I took to mean that men dont wanna look at pictures of women with small boobs, even if theyd fancy her IRL. Buuut I'm gonna ignore it, cos I still think she's smokin'.

I HAD to comment. Even all these years after her death, Audrey Hepburn is still remembered, loved, idolized. She is known for her talent, charm, intelligence, and presence as a lady of class. That's a hell of a lot more than countless other female entertainers--who capitalize only on their bodies and sexuality--can say.

Let's hear it for depth and character. Hepburn was all that and a bag 'o chips, and all while being "boyish," to boot.
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post Sep 28 2009, 07:02 PM
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I'm not really bothered about the breast cancer fundraising industry some of you are talking about, but I just don't see the point of that advert at all. I can't imagine it having any benefit whatsoever. It's clearly aimed at men, and I'm pretty sure the type of man who's the prime target is not the sort of guy who'd suddenly decide to donate to a breast cancer charity. It will make them think of sex not cancer:S. It doesn't inform or educate or even have some kind of emotional impact. Useless advert.

Why do no young girls seem to wear training bras anymore- everywhere i go girls as young as 13 are wearing moulded push-up bras. Even the ones that don't have boobs yet. Childhood just keeps getting shorter

I'm not suprised none of those guys have gfs Buttercups! Despite all the talk I bet most of them would jump at the chance to be with a girl like you- hell, your bf seems to be more than happy:). They were probably just bitching on the girl cos they knew they stood no chance.

Kindof reminded me of how I was talking about how gorgeous audrey hepburn is with a guy I like and he said that its always girls that admire her looks and men arent usually interested, and suggested that it was to do with her being 'boyish'. Im pretty sure he was talking about her boobs. Bummer. He also said she'd probably be stunning in the flesh- which I took to mean that men dont wanna look at pictures of women with small boobs, even if theyd fancy her IRL. Buuut I'm gonna ignore it, cos I still think she's smokin'.
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post Sep 28 2009, 02:15 PM
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Thanks Karategrrl, I was definitely fed up ( "asshat factory" hahahahah I love it!). And you are so right that if he goes out with them i need to do something fun too. I usually like to keep some boundaries between my friends and my bf and make adequate time to see them, so it often does end up that ill go out and he'll go do something else.

To answer your questions Angie, none of these guys have gfs- surprise, surprise right? I only went to this party bc it was my bfs family birthday party so I was pretty much obligated to be there. Usually though I do try to avoid them as much as I can and I'll be out with the friends he has that i do like and then unexpectedly some of the asshat factory- as Karategrrl so wonderfully put it- will show up. But I am def going to cut down on going out with them. My best friend goes out with them a lot so I usually try to go to maintain her sanity too, but I am just going to stop doing even that bc their comments affect me so negatively. I've managed to cut out so many other toxic people from life that these people should be no different. It's just too bad that my bf is such good friends with all of them that there are plenty of occasions for us to run into each other... ugh
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post Sep 28 2009, 08:05 AM
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angie, you are right on about breast cancer fundraising almost become an industry. I am conflicted on this--on one hand, I am very glad to see it become SO visible that people shout it loud and clear. On the other hand, I am so fucking tired of all the pink shit for sale. A few years ago, I knew a real-life scientist who went on a rant about how, even with breast cancer visibility, the research dollars are really being spent on developing things like Viagra. Her words: "Flaccid penises are more important than women dying!" It really opened my eyes. I have to say that although we still supposedly have not found a cure for cancer, there are lots more treatment options available now than ever before, and even chemo isn't necessarily the horrendous thing it once was.

buttercups, you totally did the right thing with telling the BF that next time, you aren't going. This is SO what you need to do. I think sooner or later, with that approach, it will become obvious where his loyalties lie. YOU CANNOT LOSE--if he's got only so much free time and he chooses to spend most of it with you, you win--you get his company and you don't have to see the asshat factory. If he chooses them, you are set free to enjoy the company of yourself or another guy who doesn't have dicks for friends. And if he goes out occasionally with the douches without you, be sure you go out and do something fun yourself--see a movie, go shopping with a friend, go to a club, have girl time, etc.--just don't sit home, as it sends a message to him that you have a right to a good time as well, and if you can't have one with him, you will find it elsewhere. Actions speak volumes, and you spoke loud and clear when you stated your boundaries like you did. You go, girl.
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post Sep 27 2009, 08:50 PM
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Buttercups, when he goes out with these guys, why is it that you end up going with them too? I mean, where are their girlfriends during these outings? Do you go because you want to, because your boyfriend invites you, or just because its a regular part of your week? It seems strange to me that it sounds like you're the only girl in this group, and you're there even though you hate them. I don't really understand why you go in the first place. But yeah, I don't blame you for being pissed. I don't give a rat's fat ass what kind of body type they're into, if the only thing they care about is a girl's body, they haven't progressed since high school and that's very sad and stupid. That's dumb macho guy, locker-room talk is what you're hearing, it has zero basis in reality and the good guys outgrow that kind of thing. While these assholes are saying one thing (and honestly I think they harp on the same body type over and over because they know it bugs you) a million other guys in the world are saying equally horrible things about "fat chicks."

If you don't stop hanging out with these kinds of people, you're always going to be unhappy. You need to find a way to get more intelligent, interesting people in your life, ASAP.
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post Sep 27 2009, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(buttercups @ Sep 27 2009, 02:50 PM) *
Ugh my bf had a party last night with all of his most asshole guy friends. I don't get why he hangs around with such douches but I guess its bc he's been friends with them since childhood. Anyways, I was sitting around with the tool academy listening to them spew their BS when they started talking about this professor at their school. They said they weren't physically attracted to her bc she was "thin with no curves whatsoever". My bf looked over and told me not to listen, but I can't shut off my damn ears! They continued to say how her curveless body was so unattractive but that maybe she could attract them intellectually on some small level, but that wouldn't make up for her lack of curves. At this point, my blood was boiling and I also began to feel so bad about myself. Why why why do I let guys that I KNOW are assholes bring me down?? I guess it just sort of reinforced the mood I've been in lately. When I got home I was fuming ( there was a bunch of other asshole things that were said) and I told my bf that next time he plans on hanging out with them to count me out. I don't need anymore toxic people in my life fucking up my head. Now I'm just trying to get their dumbass opinions out of my mind..


And those guys think they're great catches? WOW. And people wonder why women have support groups for these things? For anyone who believes being a curveless woman is all that and a bag of chips... exhibit A: Asshole men from buttercups' story.

Now I'm sad too....
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post Sep 27 2009, 03:50 PM
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Ugh my bf had a party last night with all of his most asshole guy friends. I don't get why he hangs around with such douches but I guess its bc he's been friends with them since childhood. Anyways, I was sitting around with the tool academy listening to them spew their BS when they started talking about this professor at their school. They said they weren't physically attracted to her bc she was "thin with no curves whatsoever". My bf looked over and told me not to listen, but I can't shut off my damn ears! They continued to say how her curveless body was so unattractive but that maybe she could attract them intellectually on some small level, but that wouldn't make up for her lack of curves. At this point, my blood was boiling and I also began to feel so bad about myself. Why why why do I let guys that I KNOW are assholes bring me down?? I guess it just sort of reinforced the mood I've been in lately. When I got home I was fuming ( there was a bunch of other asshole things that were said) and I told my bf that next time he plans on hanging out with them to count me out. I don't need anymore toxic people in my life fucking up my head. Now I'm just trying to get their dumbass opinions out of my mind..
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post Sep 26 2009, 01:44 PM
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Hi koffewitch, don't worry, this thread is all about butting in with any topic to do with small boobs, or boobs at all, or body image in general. We're almost always talking about 2 or 3 topics at once anyways. Hope you stick around. It's so true, love what you got while you have it!

I don't know if I should bother explaining my harsh reaction to that ad (which I didn't end up watching because youtube wanted me to sign in because of the "adult theme" and I refuse to sign up for those websites) since I didn't offend anyone. But I don't want to come across as being too uptight to see that the ad was pretending to take a more lighthearted approach to breast cancer awareness. But I already feel like the whole breast cancer fundraising stuff is an industry in itself, the money goes to a lot of things that have nothing to do with medical research, and what research is being done is narrowly focused towards "cures" that will help pharmaceutical companies make money, not those that are necessarily in women's best interests. But I can't help but feel it's offensive to men and women to a) assume men won't care about cancer that might kill their mothers or wives or sisters, but they will care about something that will cause women to look "less sexy." and b ) use young busty women in an ad for a disease that more often strikes women after menopause, and strikes no matter what size your breasts are. Spreading misinformation in an ad that's supposed to promote awareness is irresponsible, and doing it in a way that also objectifies the women they're supposedly helping just pisses me off.

OK, I'm done. I do want to watch the ad to see the sailors though lol
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post Sep 25 2009, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ Sep 24 2009, 02:42 PM) *
Allison-shine, thanks for the laughs! LOL!

-Yup, the middle-aged guy looks like he's reaching into his pocket for that Viagra, and he'll use Edith His Wife as a receptacle while he fantasizes
-The small-breasted blonde looks suddenly bi-curious
-You're right about the dog--I hadn't even noticed that until you pointed it out! He, of course, wants to hump her leg.
-Yes, sailors are gay for sure--not that there's anything wrong with that--and it looks like they're whooping it up more like, "yeah, girl, Go girl!"

Right back at ya for the laughs, your insight made me chuckle too. But I am still convinced the dog was looking at a steak or a doggy treat laugh.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Sep 25 2009, 12:39 PM) *
Angie - you absolutely nailed it. Thank you.

Karategrrl - ROFL over your comment about the dog! biggrin.gif


Yes, Angie, right on!
strongirl: glad I made your day! Anytime.
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post Sep 25 2009, 07:39 AM
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Angie - you absolutely nailed it. Thank you.

Karategrrl - ROFL over your comment about the dog! biggrin.gif
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post Sep 25 2009, 12:26 AM
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Thats true Angie, very true.
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post Sep 24 2009, 09:13 PM
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Save the boobs? Women die because of breast cancer. But no, let's save the fucking boobs. Jesus.
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post Sep 24 2009, 01:42 PM
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Allison-shine, thanks for the laughs! LOL!

-Yup, the middle-aged guy looks like he's reaching into his pocket for that Viagra, and he'll use Edith His Wife as a receptacle while he fantasizes
-The small-breasted blonde looks suddenly bi-curious
-You're right about the dog--I hadn't even noticed that until you pointed it out! He, of course, wants to hump her leg.
-Yes, sailors are gay for sure--not that there's anything wrong with that--and it looks like they're whooping it up more like, "yeah, girl, Go girl!"

koffeewitch, I enjoyed your comments too! Welcome aboard and join the kvetching!
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post Sep 24 2009, 11:36 AM
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No worries, Koffeewitch, your points are valid and resonate with many of the posts that have been made in here over time. I thought your previous post about having had various breast sizes was interesting and I have often felt grateful for my 34A's for some of the reasons you listed. (I'm almost 48 with no stretchmarks and no sagging and still get positive male responses when I wear cute little tops with no bra.) Overall, I think the chicks in this thread (and the cross-pollinating large breast thread) try to support each other in seeing the pro's/con's of both worlds and at the same time embrace the attitude that all shapes/sizes etc can be beautiful and sexy, that sexy is mostly in your head. And that health should be more important than looks anyway. We also sometimes offend each other, confuse each other, and have to untangle the communication. So you're right in the mix and you are welcome to stick around and muddle through with the rest of us.

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post Sep 24 2009, 10:09 AM
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oops I realize now I jumped in with my poor attempt at humor (tho' very sincere opinion) in the middle of an extremely serious *discussion*. I guess that's what happens when you don't stop to lurk a moment before posting. But God, I get so angry when I see how we women are trained to look at each part of our bodies separately instead of seeing ourselves as whole. A woman doesn't ever think she is attractive...she evaluates her complexion, eyes, hair, nose, belly, breast, thighs, knees, calves, ankles, feet, height... Men do not look at their bodies this way, with this much hatred, with this much obsessive misery. And then when anyone of us GETS cancer, we realize the insanity of it. What wouldn't we give for a healthy body, no matter how "imperfectly" shaped... or even a youthful body once we begin to age. If you think society treats you as less than for being small chested, wait, oh wait, until you start to age... Life is so short, love what ya got. (and sorry for butting in like a complete ass yet again)...


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post Sep 23 2009, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(karategrrl @ Sep 23 2009, 08:59 AM) *
I found the breast cancer ad on youtube:

Save the Boobs

What's interesting is, the last shot (of the wet t-shirt) almost looks like a different girl with a smaller chest. I like that one better. wink.gif



The commerical seems so contrived. And the guy lounging in the pool and the group of guys dressed as sailors look kind of umm...gay.
  • I like the black guy at 0:16 in the commercial "Dayum...I gotta get me some of that !"
  • The middle aged guy at 0:19 looks like he's wants to pop a Viagara
  • The blonde at 0:33 looks like she could be a regular in the Small Breast thread but she looks like she is not jealous but is in admiration
  • The dog at 0:38 must have been looking at a steak, the director did a great job of making the dog's amusement look genuine
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