[sbaby]

I'm happy that you are finally diagnosed! It's a wonder doctors didn't notice anything unusual. I've been in the same boat of dealing with a vaginal odor and my gynecologist claiming that she can't smell anything. How high were your levels of trimethylamine? How do you control it?

Well, I just found out and it all clicked, I am trying to figure out how to control it,(Its been really hard because everthing has choiline in it) but knowing what I have, I think is half the battle.

Oh all the gyn told me the same thing..(I dont smell anything), yea but everyone else can..smh

But most doctors have no idea about TMAU.

But thank you for everything, it mean a lot, that you took time to make your blog..

[swt simplicity]

I just want to thank SwtSimplicity, if it wasn't for your blog, let just say, I woundn't be here.

Over the years, I have been to about 40 doctors and they all told me I had BV(My test were all neg)
I had a really bad smell, I mean, I could smell a small room..When I told the doctor this they just thought I was crazy.

But now I know I am not crazy.... I have Trimethylaminuria(TMAU)
Check out the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy4f7rUicVA
I really hope this can help someone else..

My other name on the board was susieskinkypants and Happynow check out my post.

I'm happy that you are finally diagnosed! It's a wonder doctors didn't notice anything unusual. I've been in the same boat of dealing with a vaginal odor and my gynecologist claiming that she can't smell anything. How high were your levels of trimethylamine? How do you control it?

[sbaby]

I just want to thank SwtSimplicity, if it wasn't for your blog, let just say, I woundn't be here.

Over the years, I have been to about 40 doctors and they all told me I had BV(My test were all neg)
I had a really bad smell, I mean, I could smell a small room..When I told the doctor this they just thought I was crazy.

But now I know I am not crazy.... I have Trimethylaminuria(TMAU)
Check out the links

http://www.tmaufoundation.org.au/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy4f7rUicVA
I really hope this can help someone else..

My other name on the board was susieskinkypants and Happynow check out my post.

[sbaby]

I just want to thank SwtSimplicity, if it wasn't for your blog, let just say, I woundn't be here.

Over the years, I have been to about 40 doctors and they all told me I had BV(My test were all neg)
I had a really bad smell, I mean, I could smell a small room..When I told the doctor this they just thought I was crazy.

But now I know I am not crazy.... I have Trimethylaminuria(TMAU)
Check out the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy4f7rUicVA


I really hope this can help someone else..

My other name on the board was susieskinkypants and Happynow check out my post.

[snootyfox]

Hi SnootyFox!
I've never heard of those products but there is a product in the U.K. called Balance Activ (without the "e" at the end), it specifically claims that it can help treat and prevent bacterial vaginosis. You should consider trying that if you haven't already. Most women that have tried it before say that it works well. It's not like the RepHresh Vaginal Gel, it has different ingredients.

From my personal observation, any woman that experiences constant bacterial vaginosis infections usually needs to find some long term form of treatment. It may not be a long round of antibiotics but it could be a combination of various things. You should also consider eating plain organic yogurt preferably Chobani or Stonyfields yogurt. I've been eating it regularly (twice a day) even though it doesn't taste all that great alone (Stonyfields). You can add sweet fruits like bananas and strawberries to make it sweeter. Eating yogurt mainly the kind with no B.S. in it helps keep your intestinal flora and micro flora (which affects the vaginal flora as well) in check. When a yogurt has a lot of B.S. in it, that stuff can make the situation worse and it's bad for your system anyway, so you may as well avoid it. That's why I don't recommend that people eat yogurts like Activia or Yoplait and so on. It's loaded with added sugar and artificial stuff. I've been on other forums where women that were totally healthy to begin with ate Activia and it actually caused strange vaginal odors and discharge. Once they stopped eating the Activia their symptoms went away. Activia would also cause diarrhea and constipation which is pretty counterproductive. Some yogurts have over 34 grams of sugar which is more sugar that's in an 8 oz. can of soda.

A diet high in sugar is a big no-no if your trying to heal from an infection. Because sugar actually decreases your immune function temporarily. I wrote about about this on my blog a while ago. Here is a link to the article:

1. Healthy Habits: Cut Back On Refined Sugar

It's pretty safe to say that you should stay away from foods with added sugars and substances that aren't healthy. Foods with naturally occurring sugars are good, but you definitely want to get a good helping of vegetables in your diet. Especially the ones high in fiber since fiber acts as an internal roughage and also helps the body excrete toxins faster and replenishes the intestinal tract with complex nutrients that keep the bad bacteria, yeasts, parasites, and pathogens in check. Fruits and vegetables are loaded with prebiotics, processed foods are not, and processed foods won't give your body the basic essential nutrients it needs to fight infection and stay healthy.

It's interesting how people living in developed countries are actually less healthy in many ways than those that are more primitive and eat more of a "cave man" style diet. Here is another article that you should look at:

2. Western Diet Tied to Intestinal Disease and Allergies

Good luck,
swtsimplicity

SwtSimplicity,
Thank you for taking the time to provide that info. I will check out the articles asap and start implementing that yogurt in my diet daily. Thanks so much!!!

[SwtSimplicity]

first of all, that comment if it was directed at me was not called for. i was not rude or disrespectful in any way. i have read the posts and searched for those two products with no results in this forum.

secondly, there are hundreds of posts here that address and ask the SAME questions over and over. HOW DO WE GET RID OF BV AND WHAT WORKS!!!!

Hi SnootyFox!
I've never heard of those products but there is a product in the U.K. called Balance Activ (without the "e" at the end), it specifically claims that it can help treat and prevent bacterial vaginosis. You should consider trying that if you haven't already. Most women that have tried it before say that it works well. It's not like the RepHresh Vaginal Gel, it has different ingredients.

From my personal observation, any woman that experiences constant bacterial vaginosis infections usually needs to find some long term form of treatment. It may not be a long round of antibiotics but it could be a combination of various things. You should also consider eating plain organic yogurt preferably Chobani or Stonyfields yogurt. I've been eating it regularly (twice a day) even though it doesn't taste all that great alone (Stonyfields). You can add sweet fruits like bananas and strawberries to make it sweeter. Eating yogurt mainly the kind with no B.S. in it helps keep your intestinal flora and micro flora (which affects the vaginal flora as well) in check. When a yogurt has a lot of B.S. in it, that stuff can make the situation worse and it's bad for your system anyway, so you may as well avoid it. That's why I don't recommend that people eat yogurts like Activia or Yoplait and so on. It's loaded with added sugar and artificial stuff. I've been on other forums where women that were totally healthy to begin with ate Activia and it actually caused strange vaginal odors and discharge. Once they stopped eating the Activia their symptoms went away. Activia would also cause diarrhea and constipation which is pretty counterproductive. Some yogurts have over 34 grams of sugar which is more sugar that's in an 8 oz. can of soda.

A diet high in sugar is a big no-no if your trying to heal from an infection. Because sugar actually decreases your immune function temporarily. I wrote about about this on my blog a while ago. Here is a link to the article:

1. Healthy Habits: Cut Back On Refined Sugar

It's pretty safe to say that you should stay away from foods with added sugars and substances that aren't healthy. Foods with naturally occurring sugars are good, but you definitely want to get a good helping of vegetables in your diet. Especially the ones high in fiber since fiber acts as an internal roughage and also helps the body excrete toxins faster and replenishes the intestinal tract with complex nutrients that keep the bad bacteria, yeasts, parasites, and pathogens in check. Fruits and vegetables are loaded with prebiotics, processed foods are not, and processed foods won't give your body the basic essential nutrients it needs to fight infection and stay healthy.

It's interesting how people living in developed countries are actually less healthy in many ways than those that are more primitive and eat more of a "cave man" style diet. Here is another article that you should look at:

2. Western Diet Tied to Intestinal Disease and Allergies

Good luck,
swtsimplicity

[snootyfox]

first of all, that comment if it was directed at me was not called for. i was not rude or disrespectful in any way. i have read the posts and searched for those two products with no results in this forum.

secondly, there are hundreds of posts here that address and ask the SAME questions over and over. HOW DO WE GET RID OF BV AND WHAT WORKS!!!!

[sukouyant]

bah I don't find her response snooty, just direct. I notice a lot of people in OBOH don't bother with the intro thread anyway.

[auralpoison]

{headmeetdesk} I give.

[snootyfox]

Snootyfox, you might want to scroll through the archives of the page or use the search function, the answer to your query may lie there.

i've read the thread and wanted to know if any new members or ladies that have not posted in a while and just come to read have heard of these products, both have not been around a long time from what i understand. thanks

[auralpoison]

Welcome, Snootyfox! Do stop by the Newbies thread & introduce yourself!

As far as your question goes, you might want to scroll through the archives of the page or use the search function, your answer may lie there.

[snootyfox]

hi, has anyone tried or heard of these two products: LOPROX VAGINAL GEL and ECOVAG VAGINAL CAPSULE?
i have been reading and searching for a solution to my bv problem and was wondering if anyone had tried either of these products. any help is appreciated. thanks!!!

[swt simplicity]

hello ladies, I have a few questions. I think my sequence of events started with antibiotics which caused yeast then bv then i got yeast again within 3 days on flagyl, the bv came back after two treatments for yeast. OI. I Ordered Fem Dophilus from amazon and read the box and it says keep refrigerated. It wasn't cold and I wonder if they keep it refrigerated at all since there was no stickers on the box. Usually there is a bright orange sticker. So basically I'm wondering if it's even going to work at all now. And my other question is I am starting a course of Metrogel what are your suggestions as to when I should start the FemD during or after treatment?? Any opinions welcome. Thank you.

Tebasmm,
If the product wasn't cold, I would assume some of the bacteria in it may have died already. You should just buy RepHresh Pro-B and not worry about the product parishing in-transit, both Femdophilus and RepHresh Pro-B are the same thing. You should always take probiotics along with antibiotics but not too close together. Just take the probiotic a few hours (preferably two to three hours) after you've taken the antibiotic to avoid the chances of the antibiotic killing the bacteria before it has a chance to work. You should also continue taking the probiotic after treatment for as long as you want (the longer the better), but take it for at least two weeks after you've finished your course of antibiotics.

Good luck!

[tebasmm]

hello ladies, I have a few questions. I think my sequence of events started with antibiotics which caused yeast then bv then i got yeast again within 3 days on flagyl, the bv came back after two treatments for yeast. OI. I Ordered Fem Dophilus from amazon and read the box and it says keep refrigerated. It wasn't cold and I wonder if they keep it refrigerated at all since there was no stickers on the box. Usually there is a bright orange sticker. So basically I'm wondering if it's even going to work at all now. And my other question is I am starting a course of Metrogel what are your suggestions as to when I should start the FemD during or after treatment?? Any opinions welcome. Thank you.

[bunny]

for the past year i thought i had bv. i went to the doctor around 5 times to get a pap/swab. each time a regular family doctor did the test. this month, i went to europe and saw an extremely intelligent gyno. he did a test and it came up positive for chlamydia, mycoplasma and urealplasma. i had chlamydia and every single time it came up negative on the tests done here. the gyno told me that a family doctor is not skilled enough to do a proper swab because chlamydia lurks way back and you have to know where to swab for it. the idiot doctors here had no idea how to even do a proper test. in north america, they do not test for mycoplasma and urealplasma because they do not believe it needs to be treated. they are just lazy. isolating these bacteria is tough and you have to test the swabs twice, which is more time and money.

the reason your "bv" keeps coming back, is because you've never treated it properly. you have to do a dna probe to see what bacteria you have and then you have to drink antibiotics for THAT SPECIFIC bacteria. metro is just a general bacteria killer, but if you dont have general bacteria, and rather something more complex, well then metro is a waste of time.

i am extremely disappointed with the health system here in north america. for the doctors here to know so little information about a condition that is so common is really disturbing. you ladies probably don't even have "BV" ... DOES BV EVEN EXIST????? just an easy thing for doctors here to call it.

[auralpoison]

I dunno anything about oral exacerbating BV, but if you are really concerned you can always pick up a dental dam. I can't seem to find any non-latex alternatives like nitrile dams, but you could buy a box of nitrile gloves & DIY if you have any allergy issues with latex.

[Phoenix]

Quick question. I have read a large part of this thread, but not all of it yet, so apologies if someone has already posted answering this. Can oral sex aggravate BV?

I have read articles stating "the vagina is much cleaner than the mouth". If you have gum disease, I guess there are bacteria in the mouth that can be transferred to the vagina. Are these the same bad bacteria that cause problems with BV?

Should I stop giving and receiving oral sex in case this is part of the problem? Any advice greatly welcomed as I have not found this topic covered anywhere on any of the sites I have looked on. I hope it is not too much of a taboo subject for the forum...

[auralpoison]

Long slow clap for Swt Simplicity. Very well said & quite diplomatic, I must say. I commend you for your class & insight.

[swt simplicity]

Girlwithwings,

People get misdiagnosed all the time and I know doctors aren't always right. I'm not sure your familiar with my story, but I have first hand accounts of being misdiagnosed which is actually how I came across this forum in 2005-2006. A while back, I actually posted a story about my grandmother based on how she was misdiagnosed evidently died as a result of that. I'm not the type of person that will always believe what I am told either. I like to go by the facts and form my own conclusions based on other data and information either written in books, medical articles, testimonials, magazines and credible Internet sources. I believe in trying what works and also most importantly what is safe.

Not that I'm trying to be offensive but many women have said, "douching with hydrogen peroxide helps me with my bacterial vaginosis, I douche every day, and if I stop douching my symptoms come back" or "using the jamu stick at night helps get rid of my bacterial vaginosis, but my symptoms come back after I stop using it." But I also point out that it only works temporarily, and if it works temporarily it doesn't cure anything, it simply works as a temporary fix.

I personally feel people should maintain a balance between common sense and logic. If you want to try something that may not be safe and something happens farther down the line because of it, your going to have to deal with the consequences however grave they maybe. There are loads of stories about people that have taken supplements that weren't regulated and they were contaminated with weird chemicals that weren't stated on the table of contents or ingredient list and awful things happened to them. Most of the time these people were not compensated; even if they did take legal action, they usually settled with a large sum of money which isn't surprising. We are living in a capitalist nation where money talks and people can be easily bought out. It's not wise to totally downgrade the medical community considering millions of lives have been saved and prolonged as a result of medical care.

It's great that people like to share their ideas with others that can benefit from it, especially since conventional treatments don't always work. I've tried conventional treatments that didn't work and my doctor actually prescribed me something that wasn't conventional at the time. So I'm not totally closed off to new ideas at all.

About the bit where you talked about nano particles in the water ... there are actually many things in the water these days ranging from birth control pills to illegal substances in small amounts. And not too long ago I watched a documentary about fracking fluids being leeched into local water including water wells. The "big brother" natural gas companies said this water was safe to drink even though the water could be lit on fire and people were developing illnesses and getting sick from drinking it. People would get their water tested and it would have high levels of strange chemicals. Most of these people did get paid large sums of money to stay quiet and/or got their water pumped in special tanks that purified it. Clearly those things are bad and shouldn't be in the water. Just because that stuff is there doesn't make it alright. There are many things in society that need to be addressed that aren't-- too many actually.

[Irritated]

I started using metronidazole 3 days ago. I have used it before and drank the whole time. I was never told not too. This time the pharmacist informed me that you weren't supposed to drink on this med. I read the paper I got w/ it and it said to not drink for at least 24 hrs after using it. Has anyone ever drank on this???? Oh....I am using the vaginal gel.