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post Jun 28 2007, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:01 PM) *
I was reading through the post today, and thought...wow...I can't believe they are fighting again...AND LOW AND BEHOLD...ITS FUCKING YOU AGAIN STARTING SHIT!!!

Looks like you're the one who's starting shit again.

And it wasn't me starting shit in the first place. Did I cuss anyone out? No. Did I call anyone names? No. Just expressing my views. THESE ARE THE FACTS. It's not my fault that some people can't handle criticism without screaming their heads off "go to fucking hell you fucking bitch fuckity-fuck-fuck!"

I can't be responsible for other people's immaturity and lack of intelligence.

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IF YOU DID...AND YOU HAD TRUE B.V....YOU WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH US STICKING EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z UP YOUR SNATCH TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SHIT.

No, that's very unsafe. I care about my body.

QUOTE(jewelscando @ Jun 28 2007, 06:01 PM) *
YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A SEX LIFE, THEREFORE YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOUR SNATCH SMELLS LIKE...

Oh, so should I brag about how big my boyfriend's cock is? You know, like you do?

I don't know how that's going to help anyone ...

Anyway, I've been saying all along that the I'm more focused on overall health - especially the bad health consequences of BV. I want everyone to be aware that it's not just about the smell. (And if you're healthy, the smell will go away too!) I'm about finding ways to treat the condition, not just deodorizing your vagina.


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post Jun 28 2007, 06:44 PM
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Lori....

I was reading through the post today, and thought...wow...I can't believe they are fighting again...AND LOW AND BEHOLD...ITS FUCKING YOU AGAIN STARTING SHIT!!!

Fuck you Lori...YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY SHIT ABOUT ME, OR BRING UP MY NAME. I have stayed away, like I said I would...and you're still fucking bad mouthing me.

I NEVER INSISTED ANYONE FOLLOW MY LEAD, NOR DID NEVERENDING OR PIANO GIRL. FLAGYL VAGINALLY WORKED FOR ME BITCH!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT A RELIEF THAT IS????

OF COURSE NOT...BECAUSE YOU ARE A FAKE LORI...YOU DO NOT SUFFER FROM B.V. IF YOU DID...AND YOU HAD TRUE B.V....YOU WOULD BE RIGHT THERE WITH US STICKING EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z UP YOUR SNATCH TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SHIT. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A SEX LIFE, THEREFORE YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOUR SNATCH SMELLS LIKE...

Lori won't go away guys...she's probably being paid by someone...or she's a wanta be doctor looking for patients...and this is the only way she can get them.


THIS IS WHY I'M NO LONGER HERE...IT WENT FROM "BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS -- OR -- EMBARRASSING BAD SMELL....TO "LORI'S BLOG...JUST CLICK UNDER HER SIGNATURE"....
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post Jun 28 2007, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(neverending @ Jun 27 2007, 10:12 AM) *
Hun if you listen to Lori you'll never figure out what's wrong with you and you will be here another year. I had BV/HORMONAL vag! Plan and simple. I had the shit, fish, tuna, trash, ammonia, and even the popcorn smell. I had the white milky discharge. Everything that you ladies are going through, I've been there. TRUST ME! Everytime I went to the doctor that's what I was diagnosed with BV. I've read that if you let Atrophic Vag. go for soooo long, it will mimick other symptoms (like bv). I am too young to have had Atrophic vag. and I think the doctors didn't consider it because of my age but time after time I told them I never had any problems until I stopped taking the birth control. That should have clicked in there minds but it didn't so I did what I had to do and it worked.


By the way, I finally got my lab results back from the doctor, and it says that my hormones are off. My progesterone is way low, my estrogen looks normal, and my TSH (thyroid indicator) level was off as well. I have Hypothyroidism. Underactive thyroid. That's about all I know right now. Looks like I have to go in for more testing to see what kind of Hypothryoidism I have. Apparently there are differnent types.

I hope everyone has gone for hormone testing, or at least is planning on doing this. Having low progesterone, and low thyroid function explains A LOT. I know it isn't from the birth control pill though, because I've been on it. And I've known about the thyroid condition for years, was tested a decade ago, and that was when I was 30. And I know it isn't menopause - because I have had this problem for years, even when I was much younger.
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post Jun 28 2007, 08:09 AM
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One more product I would like to recommend: SYLK vaginal lubricant (just put the name in your search engine). Its pH is 4.7, which is pretty close to the "ideal" of 4.5. I was skeptical, since most lubricants are more like 6-7 pH, but when I tested it myself, it was right on the money at 4.7. Anyway, I use it nearly daily, because I tend to be dry down there (perimenopausal) & I think it helps keep BV, yeast, etc. at bay by helping the vaginal environment stay at a proper pH. It is also safe to use with condoms.

Just another product in my bag of tricks, along with boric acid, tea tree oil suppositories, aci-jel, Estrace (Rx) estrogen cream... wink.gif

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anitsirhc
post Jun 28 2007, 06:01 AM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jun 28 2007, 07:14 AM) *
I'd like to use him as my punching bag!!!!


haha!! i like that. i feel the same exact way about the numerous stupid dumbass doctors that i've seen.
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arj75
post Jun 28 2007, 04:57 AM
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I have a concern....According to my recent doctor..the BV is back, but the stinch is not..YAY. I'm rather confused, I wonder if the reason clue cells showed up for bv was because I just "haven't shed them off yet'? It is odd the I have yeast infection, without the raging itch, or burning. I'm wondering, because my dumbass didn't ask...if he did a wiff test..or just looked at the cells? I am thinking he only did a wet prep... I'm suspecting an overgrowth, A, or b or c or d or e or f or g. lol. I can't wait to go back to see this doctor! I'd like to use him as my punching bag!!!!
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post Jun 28 2007, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE(pympmama1 @ Jun 28 2007, 01:50 AM) *
If it is indeed a hormonal imbalance that may balance me out.... but something has got to give.....

FYI - some people think they can treat BV by using BCP's, but some people also think they got BV from using BCP's.

Also, were you the one who said you liked Aci-jel, but it wasn't made anymore? Anyway, I learned about a prescription product called Trimo-San that I think is similar. Just a heads-up.

http://www.milexproducts.com/products/medi...s/trimo-san.asp


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post Jun 28 2007, 02:33 AM
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You know I have been thinking about birth control......I cannot remember while on birth control having BV. If it is indeed a hormonal imbalance that may balance me out.... but something has got to give..... I am scared to get intimate with a guy b/c it smells like the catch of the day. Guys alway think that u are a dirty girl and don't take baths or have a STD

Lori- neverending and jewels has been here a very long time try not to alienate them. This board is about trial and error. We offer suggestion that is why we are here .... I think things go wrong when ..... condescensions and thinking your way is the only way or the one right way.... In the 9month that I have been here I have seen thinks work for some and not for others... I come to the conclusion that no two women's bodies are alike. Lori I realize you are trying to help but you have to consider that NO TWO WOMEN"S BODIES ARE ALIKE and u cannot condemn or disapprove of things that are working for some on this board. It is not for any of us to place judgment on what has been successful.... Lori continue being helpful.... but without judgment and condemnation... Thanks for the blog it is helpful


Now : back to why I am here....... It has been a little over a decade since I used birth control... there are so many different kinds now that they did not have 10 yrs ago.... Is there one that is better than other.... can someone enlighten me.... ohmy.gif

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anitsirhc
post Jun 27 2007, 10:17 PM
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so i am going to planned parenthood on friday. mainly to talk about birth control. oh and that "brownish pinkish" discharge i described was in fact spotting. because now i am bleeding. so i was going to get checked for bv on friday but now i probably won't be able to.
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post Jun 27 2007, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ Jun 28 2007, 03:55 AM) *
Well, Peggy, you most be a lucky one of the bunch. Because, Not only does the smell make me want to vomit, but bothered my partner greatly as well. (He also broke up with me) Not to mention that we had a quickie one day while the children were outside .. and when the children came back inside and said OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT AWFUL FISH SMELL...it makes you want to go crawl inside a hole and hide. I'm glad your stinch isn't that bad, your a very lucky woman!


Oh my G-d I feel you! I was talking to one of my friends when his young son walked up. He didn't say anything at first but then he tapped his father on his leg, looked up, and said "poop". Like what's that poop smell. I thought G-d why me!
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post Jun 27 2007, 09:08 PM
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I don't know what the hell happened in here today. Why is this forum no longer a support group? I'm really pissed. Lori, you really need to lose the know it all attitude it's fucking annoying as hell.

Bacterial vaginosis "isn't an active infection" according to definition, it's an imbalance of flora.

Actually one out of four women have success in just choosing to ignore it, and has had luck with the body rebalancing itself. (If you can stand the massive stinch of course). I have the feeling that you don't have to fight bv as often as many of us here, and that's why it's so easy for you to pass judgement on how we decide to treat ourselves, since many (like myself) have no fucking insurance, and can't afford to go to the doctor week after week. AND FUCK PLANNED PARENTHOOD TOO.

There is a reason MANY women are choosing to refrain from using antibotics. Have you ever heard of bacteria resistance, maybe we don't want to make matters worse than they already are. There is a strain of E. Coli. now, that WE HAVE NO ANTIBOTICS THAT WILL KILL IT. I'm not gonna attach a link, I don't feel the need, it's true. There are no rules at this forum, so any member can say whatever the fuck she wants.

Do you have listed in your blog of the many adverse side effects that the antibotics the many quacks are prescribing to us? I will list them all tommorow.

It's our bodies, no one else is helping, I'm not gonna sit around with my thumb up my ass crying about it. I will do whatever I feel the need to do.

You make remarks of my "out there" theories..Do you have a clue as to the many countless fungi, bacteria, and parasites that are shipped into our country? Do you think bananas grow in our backyards here? THEY ALL ARE IMPORTED.

I was munching down on some apples the other day, just happened to notice.... WHAT THE FUCK?!? They came from CHILI?? (MOLD at the bottom of the bag) IT IS OUR BODIES SHUT THE FUCK UP. I'm tired of your shit too.



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post Jun 27 2007, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Peggy-in-FL @ Jun 27 2007, 09:26 PM) *
I had BV since I started my period many years ago. Sex dose not cause BV, Bacteria causes BV. Oddly, I read somewhere of Scientist doing test on of what smells arroused men, BV smell was the smell that arroused the men the most in this study.


Well, Peggy, you most be a lucky one of the bunch. Because, Not only does the smell make me want to vomit, but bothered my partner greatly as well. (He also broke up with me) Not to mention that we had a quickie one day while the children were outside .. and when the children came back inside and said OH MY GOD WHAT IS THAT AWFUL FISH SMELL...it makes you want to go crawl inside a hole and hide. I'm glad your stinch isn't that bad, your a very lucky woman!

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post Jun 27 2007, 08:09 PM
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I had BV since I started my period many years ago. Sex dose not cause BV, Bacteria causes BV. Oddly, I read somewhere of Scientist doing test on of what smells arroused men, BV smell was the smell that arroused the men the most in this study.
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post Jun 27 2007, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(cheryl @ Jun 26 2007, 02:08 PM) *
Anyway meanwhile I've used acv hp garlic tea tree oil am going to store tonight to get rephresh maybe will try baking soda dove soap or phisoderm ?? good luck to all Cheryl smile.gif

Cheryl - Thumbs down on the baking soda (how do you plan to use it?) You want your vagina to be acidic, and baking soda is alkaline, which is the opposite of what you want.

Also, check out my blog (link is in my sig) - it's a compedium of info. from this thread. I also recommend The V Book (Dr. Elizabeth Stewart). I think those are good places to start.

Dove soap is good to use (neutral pH). There are other feminine cleansers you might want to try, too.

I personally wouldn't use phisoderm because I've used it on my face before, and I feel like it didn't rinse off well. But that's just my experience.


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post Jun 27 2007, 02:54 PM
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the brownish pinkish discharge i've been having is what i get after the yeast arrest isn't coming out anymore and after a day or two it seems like the bv comes back. it's not the yeast arrest coming out, it's the bv returning. at least i think that's what it is, it smells so that's what i'm assuming. the yellowish greenish dischgarge is what i used to have when i had bv really bad before i ever tried yeast arrest. my doctor told me the yellowish-greenish was bv a while ago (like in october.) i think my discharge now (pinkish-brownish) though is a combination if discharge and a little bit of spotting since i switched birth controls this month (which also may be contributing to the returning bv since i feel like CRAP from the bc... moodiness, cravings, all that fun stuff) and i've spotted a little bit before when i started a new bc. i need to go to the doctor about birth control anyway so i'll have them check everything out... again.


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post Jun 27 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(bvgirl @ Jun 27 2007, 10:48 AM) *
ANITSIRHC--no no! it definitely helped and lessened the bv and symptoms. when it does come back it's actually different then it was before. it's thinner, it's like light brownish pinkish in color (instead of thick and yellowish-green) and it doesn't smell as bad, actually it's a completely different smell. it does smell though. and i did mess up with the dossage once. i went away for a long weekend and didn't realized i only had enough yeast arrest for 2 of the 4 days, so i kind of spread them out so they would last me until i got home and got a new jar. and while i did that, it did come back after like 2 days of not using it right. so maybe that's why it didn't work? that's the only time i messed up... i'm not sure if i should try it again for longer or if i should try something new. i didn't have any side effects except for a little itching once in a while. i'm going on vacation in 2 weeks to vegas and i don't want to have the green discharge while i'm there so after that i will decide what to do. i think i will only use the yeast arrest once every 2 or 3 days for now just to keep it away until i get back and decide what to do. thanks bvgirl for your help.

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I wish you all the luck in finding that it will help you in the long run and or finding a product that better suits you..I am a little concerned about the discharge you are describing.. The reason why I say that is that I do not experience a brownish pinkish with yeast arrest.. The discharge I have is just the leftovers of the suppository which is yellowish. Also, I did not experience the greenish.. I just wanted to point that out to you.. We are all different but with the discharge you are describing I just have not experienced that... Just voicing some concerns..If you feel like you are having some discharge that may worry you please go to the doctor and get checked out to see if there may be something else involved..You are much welcomed.. I thank you and the rest for your help..Teamwork to this helps us all...


the brownish pinkish discharge i've been having is what i get after the yeast arrest isn't coming out anymore and after a day or two it seems like the bv comes back. it's not the yeast arrest coming out, it's the bv returning. at least i think that's what it is, it smells so that's what i'm assuming. the yellowish greenish dischgarge is what i used to have when i had bv really bad before i ever tried yeast arrest. my doctor told me the yellowish-greenish was bv a while ago (like in october.) i think my discharge now (pinkish-brownish) though is a combination if discharge and a little bit of spotting since i switched birth controls this month (which also may be contributing to the returning bv since i feel like CRAP from the bc... moodiness, cravings, all that fun stuff) and i've spotted a little bit before when i started a new bc. i need to go to the doctor about birth control anyway so i'll have them check everything out... again.
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post Jun 27 2007, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(lori @ Jun 27 2007, 11:57 AM) *
That's true, Cheryl. It's "usually not like this." For the first 80 pages or so, it's been full of ignorance, rudeness towards newbies, medically unsound advice, and the relentless peddling of sketchy products. For a whole year it's been a long record of bad ideas resulting in wasted time and money at best, and injury and tore-up vaginas at worst.


lori, you don't seem to like this board very much. you've said more than once that you thought people's ideas were "stupid" and you think everyone is wrong. so then WHY ARE YOU HERE?! if you hate it so much, then LEAVE! you never have anything good to say. all you do is bash everything everyone else says. you don't like the board, nobody here likes you so just go! stop writing and pissing everyone off, you're no help at all.

i used to like writing here because people would write back and relate to me and make me feel better and i could relate to others. lately it just makes me more upset. and you know why? it's because of you lori, nobody else, just you. so thanks for ruining it.

stress makes bv worse, you piss people off and cause them stress, so you're actually making things worse. so why don't you do everyone a favor and just shutup so we can all calm down.
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(cheryl @ Jun 27 2007, 11:55 AM) *
Has anyone here looked at the Earth Clinic site? I'm sure you have, everyone here seems to have alot of info . Has anyone tried the folic acid remedy that I saw on that site, just wondering probably just another thing that will leave me frustrated !!??



Hey new girl,
Thanks again for the Folic Acid idea. I forgot everything great that I read about it before. Making Progress (I don't know if she is here anymore) also mentioned that it got rid of her BV for a year. It also has been linked to mood stabilization. So all people out there that want to elevate their mood a little - this may be your chill pill. Again, not be repetative, we all may be low in this, because of our infections. If you have less beneficial bacteria in your body, i.e. your intestines, you will be deficient. I am taking half a milligram with breakfast, and the other half the pill with dinner. And the stuff is cheap. Five bucks a bottle when I bought it.

[ Coppen A, Bolander-Gouaille C. (2005). "Treatment of depression: time to consider folic acid and vitamin B12". Journal of Psychopharmacology 19 (1): 59-65

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=15671130 ]
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:17 AM
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Morphia, and everyone else that wants to heal their cervix:

[ Vitamin B9 (folic acid) is critical to synthesis of normal DNA as cells divide from one generation to the next. Cells that line the cervix replace themselves every 7-14 days and therefore, the cells must continuously form DNA as part of their genetic structure. Previous studies have demonstrated that poor folic acid status can lead to DNA abnormalities with subsequent development of cervical dysplasia or megaloblastic features of cervical cells (large abnormal cell appearance).

http://www.tidesoflife.com/cervical_dysplasia.htm ]



[ There is growing evidence that certain vitamins, such as folic acid, play a role in cervical health. A poor diet may also cause the immune system to weaken, decreasing the body's ability to fight viruses such as HPV.

http://www.womenshealthchannel.com/cervica...sia/index.shtml ]
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(sassy @ Jun 27 2007, 10:26 AM) *
Oh, and while all of this fighting is DUMB...

I totally agree. And I'm sorry, I apologize.

I guess I just got a little pissed when someone told me I should "shut my fucking mouth" and that I should "go to hell" etc.

QUOTE(sassy @ Jun 27 2007, 10:26 AM) *
I am thankful for Lori because she has brought a lot of new and important information to this board. She also questions everthing which is good since there are a lot of scams out there when it comes to helping with BV.

Thank you, Sassy. I really appreciate you saying that. I am here to *try* and help. I wish I had a magic pill, I would share it with everyone.


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