[karategrrl]

Hey spot-on, if you don't want to answer this tactless question, please don't. But I was wondering how much your procedure cost. Hope you don't mind my asking, but I've heard prices all over the board, plus with inflation (no pun intended, hee hee) each year you don't have a real point of reference when you read old online implant stories.

[spot-on]

Oh yes I'll definitely be interested in that myself! I won't be back working out for another couple of weeks yet! But I will report in here with a full report

Weirdly time appropriate after talking about sensation yesterday but lots of feeling came back in my nipples yesterday afternoon!!! Feels like sore nipples you get sometimes during your period (mine were almost always super sensitive and sore 1-2 days prior to my period). There is still a numbing of the boobs above the incision-nipple. Guessing that is gonna take longer to come back.

Last night I wore a tightish t-shirt over my sports bra when we went out to eat. Oh Boy do I have some boobs now! They have the same projection as the VS +2 size bra, BUT they shape is different. Those bra's tend to be conical? IRL the boobs are fuller and rounder compared. So those bra's will give you an idea of size but not really shape.

[karategrrl]

Hi spot-on,

I know it's probably too early to report this, but with the implants under the pec muscle, I'm curious how they will look when you're doing pec exercises at the gym--like, will they squash the implant when they are flexed? Always wondered about that. I know you won't be back at the gym soon, but when you are, inquiring minds want to know!

[KeraBear]

Hi Spot On,

I'm glad to hear that your surgery and recovery is going well. This may be too personal, so if you don't want to answer that's fine, but did you lose any sensation after your surgery? That is one of my biggest fears about the idea of augmentation. Also, what do silicone implants do when you lay down? Do they flatten out a bit or stand straight up? Sorry, just curious. Obviously I've never had to chance to ask anyone else these types of things.

Yeah. I guess as long as you are comfortable that is the most important thing... And I am really curious about the breat sensitivity thing too! That would also be a concern for me also. Def one of the most fav thing about my booblets!

[spot-on]

I think that's one of the things that finally got to me. Not the Kardashians cos honestly I watch very little TV usually, but seeing women in the gym who I train and they have they great boobs and hourglass figures.

I've since found out the reason I am healing fast is due to a process called "flash recovery". Most of the surgery is done by cauterizing not scalpel, less bleeding, and one of the recovery factors is MOVEMENT.So far I'd definitely recommend this method!

I measured myself this morning. Previously I was 34A/32B depending on the bra, so far I am a 34C/32D, not sure how the implants dropping and softening will affect that. I'm still amazed at how they can look small and yet HUGE. I've read a lot about women getting emotional or depressed after breast augmentation, and I think I can understand that to an extent, though haven't experienced it myself. I am used the size now in clothes, though I haven't worn anything tight or revealing (maybe that will change my mind!) but naked they look ginormous but naked was my issue before, I had nothing above the nipple so the change naked is drastic. To someone who only saw me in a push-up/padded bra they probably wouldn;t even notice a difference!

Up sick with an upset stomach and stupidly decided to turn on Keeping up with the Kardashians. Now not only do I feel sick, but I have serious Kim boob envy. Her body is so amazing I would give anything to look like that. This show is definitely a trigger into boobie negativity for me. Feelin jealous Spot-on, maybe I need to consider something like that. It seems like you've done really well with everything (thank god) and I feel a little more encouraged towards considering it...

[spot-on]

I will answer ANY questions for you all! I figure this is what we need right? And honestly I wish I'd had someone to ask!

I'm only 5 days out and can't NOT wear a bra right now, but every Plastic Surgeon is different some advocate wearing bra's others don't, some get you wearing a strap over the tops of the boobs to push the implants down, other say nope. I',m wearing a sports bra most the time now. When I lie down they do go to the sides a little already so kinda happy they act a little bit natural, though mine are still a little high and a little firm, though they are getting softer every day. I won't know how they act 'normally' until they drop fully and soften up.

As for sensation, yes I feel my boobs but not 100% right now, though again I am only 5 days post-op. My nerves are firing back up though as I've had some buzzing sensations in part of my boobs as the nerves kick in. I opted for crease incision cos I didn't want increase risk of loss of nipple sensation. But yes I definitely have sensation there, not 100% right now, but that comes back as the body settles. I won't know for sure about permanant loss of sensation till 3-6 months time.

Hi Spot On,

I'm glad to hear that your surgery and recovery is going well. This may be too personal, so if you don't want to answer that's fine, but did you lose any sensation after your surgery? That is one of my biggest fears about the idea of augmentation. Also, what do silicone implants do when you lay down? Do they flatten out a bit or stand straight up? Sorry, just curious. Obviously I've never had to chance to ask anyone else these types of things.

[buttercups]

Up sick with an upset stomach and stupidly decided to turn on Keeping up with the Kardashians. Now not only do I feel sick, but I have serious Kim boob envy. Her body is so amazing I would give anything to look like that. This show is definitely a trigger into boobie negativity for me. Feelin jealous Spot-on, maybe I need to consider something like that. It seems like you've done really well with everything (thank god) and I feel a little more encouraged towards considering it...

[discowombat]

Hi Spot On,

I'm glad to hear that your surgery and recovery is going well. This may be too personal, so if you don't want to answer that's fine, but did you lose any sensation after your surgery? That is one of my biggest fears about the idea of augmentation. Also, what do silicone implants do when you lay down? Do they flatten out a bit or stand straight up? Sorry, just curious. Obviously I've never had to chance to ask anyone else these types of things.

[spot-on]

Well I look at it the same as gynecologists, they see womens parts all day. I also have a woman gynecologists but thats a personal choice for that dept, I figure women know better than men what's what down there For breasts I think a guys opinion would be good, but yes I see your point. I guess it depends on the person and the dr. I just felt comfortable with this guy *shrug*

I have always wondered though and this is off surgery topic, about male doctors and breasts. I imagine they are trained to see it like an elbow or something? But at the end of the day, he is still a male and most males like breasts on SOME level you know? How do you turn something like that off? I have a girl doctor so it is a non issue for me, but i have always wondered.

[KeraBear]

When the surgeons go in they create a pocket in the muscle for the implant to sit in, unfortunately the top part of the pec muscle holds on too told initially to the implant preventing it from sitting into the pocket correctly so the implants are higher than they should be. Gravity takes over, and the pecs release a little and implants settle into their pocket. In the BA 'clique" it's called "dropping and fluffing" as the implant drops and gets bigger on the bottom part.

My husband was there when he massaged the breast, and honestly they call it massage but it's NOT a massage! Basically I squeeze underside of the boob then push up to the collarbone so the implant rises and falls in the pocket. Not a massage IMO but that's what they call it. DH and I call it booby squeezes!

As for the Dr being a lover of massage I simply meant he advocates the massage technique for creating soft and natural looking implants, not that he enjoys massaging (I never meant to imply that!). What I meant is that not all surgeons do the massage thing. Mine believes that it helps the implant soften up, removes fluid, and prevents complications. He believes that moving helps them settle faster and honestly from experiences I've read on forums my recovery has been MUCh quicker than others! I've walked 1 mile in the morning/evening since the evening of day 1 post op! Other women have been laid up on their backs for a whole week! so what I meant is he advocates MOVEMENT and massaging, he loves the concept that it helps with quicker recovery, less complications etc

Day 2-3
Took a shower day 2, managed to wash hair, and body except for my back which my husband did for me. I slept the whole night last night, waking up at 5.30am to use the bathroom. Then back to bed till 8am. Walked with DH for a mile after breakfast and just switched into sports bra for the first time. Now to get some work done online. Cut down on Motrin today, just having 1 every 4 hours. Honestly don't think I need that really

Ooooooooooooh, okay! I thought it was something like that. Thanks. As for the doc "loving" it, I guess it just could have been worded differently. That does make sense.

I have always wondered though and this is off surgery topic, about male doctors and breasts. I imagine they are trained to see it like an elbow or something? But at the end of the day, he is still a male and most males like breasts on SOME level you know? How do you turn something like that off? I have a girl doctor so it is a non issue for me, but i have always wondered.

[spot-on]

Hi karategrrl
Yep I think it all varies depending on the surgeon too. Mine had me up and about doing stretches the day of surgery. other surgeons say not to move at all. But that's the old thinking IMO, like they used to say lie flat on your back for 2 weeks if you had back pain, now they say to MOVE kwim?

It's day 3 post op I can move my arms freely overhead, and reach behind me (I do that hourly) and honestly I believe THAT is the biggest factor in my recovery. I also thing much of it depends on your tolerence for pain/discomfort. Honestly to me the only pain I had was waking up, and the bruising on my ribs/sternum, but that was only if I pressed on my skin, other than that just like I did a strenuous workout really, post workout soreness. Personally the damn IV going in hurt more than the surgery IMO. I'm getting my own breakfast, walking in the morning with DH and the dogs, then doing computer work in the morning, lunch, then watching tv in the afternoon. Walk in the evenings and then bed. So sure it's a LOT less than I'd normally do, but for 3 days post-op I really think the difference has been MOVEMENT like my surgeon advised. For example today I have on a sports bra (overhead entry, no clasps) and a t-shirt. Got it all on myself too!

I think this just goes to show that not everyone is the same, not all of us are going to get the same experience that we see on documentaries etc. Personally I put it all down to moving as per surgeons recommendations. I know the difference between pain, and nerves firing up and discomfort. You can move through discomfort.

Honestly I feel like I could do more if the Dr would let me but I'm not allowed to elevate my heart rate over a certain amount till week 3 due to the risk of bleeding. I feel great though honestly. I've been doing small jobs around the house like filling/emptying the dishwasher and preparing some foods, though some things are still not on my job list like lifting etc but all in all I am amazed! Cos like you I'd seen some pretty tough recovery stories and am just so glad I went with the Dr I did!

Hi spot-on. I'm SO glad you sound so good. I admit, I was more worried than I let on. You seemed determined to have the surgery so I wan't gonna discourage you. I'm pretty surprised, actually, as I've heard some pretty scary post-op stories, and seen some poor ladies post-op in documentaries, where they were just in severe pain afterward. I can't believe you're sitting up at the computer and going for walks(!!!). I wonder how much of that comes from your already being in great shape and health. I am relieved for you!

Keep the updates coming, and god bless!

[spot-on]

When the surgeons go in they create a pocket in the muscle for the implant to sit in, unfortunately the top part of the pec muscle holds on too told initially to the implant preventing it from sitting into the pocket correctly so the implants are higher than they should be. Gravity takes over, and the pecs release a little and implants settle into their pocket. In the BA 'clique" it's called "dropping and fluffing" as the implant drops and gets bigger on the bottom part.

My husband was there when he massaged the breast, and honestly they call it massage but it's NOT a massage! Basically I squeeze underside of the boob then push up to the collarbone so the implant rises and falls in the pocket. Not a massage IMO but that's what they call it. DH and I call it booby squeezes!

As for the Dr being a lover of massage I simply meant he advocates the massage technique for creating soft and natural looking implants, not that he enjoys massaging (I never meant to imply that!). What I meant is that not all surgeons do the massage thing. Mine believes that it helps the implant soften up, removes fluid, and prevents complications. He believes that moving helps them settle faster and honestly from experiences I've read on forums my recovery has been MUCh quicker than others! I've walked 1 mile in the morning/evening since the evening of day 1 post op! Other women have been laid up on their backs for a whole week! so what I meant is he advocates MOVEMENT and massaging, he loves the concept that it helps with quicker recovery, less complications etc

Day 2-3
Took a shower day 2, managed to wash hair, and body except for my back which my husband did for me. I slept the whole night last night, waking up at 5.30am to use the bathroom. Then back to bed till 8am. Walked with DH for a mile after breakfast and just switched into sports bra for the first time. Now to get some work done online. Cut down on Motrin today, just having 1 every 4 hours. Honestly don't think I need that really

Hi Spot-on! Glad to hear it went well! Hope you are back to your awesome normal active self soon! I have a question... what do you mean by dropping into the pocket? I am confused about that.

Wasn't it sorta awkward having the doc massage your breasts? Seems like it would be... and him saying that he he loves doing that... what did you mean by that? Just wondering. It seemed like an odd thing. Thanks!

[karategrrl]

Hi spot-on. I'm SO glad you sound so good. I admit, I was more worried than I let on. You seemed determined to have the surgery so I wan't gonna discourage you. I'm pretty surprised, actually, as I've heard some pretty scary post-op stories, and seen some poor ladies post-op in documentaries, where they were just in severe pain afterward. I can't believe you're sitting up at the computer and going for walks(!!!). I wonder how much of that comes from your already being in great shape and health. I am relieved for you!

Keep the updates coming, and god bless!

[KeraBear]

Hi Spot-on! Glad to hear it went well! Hope you are back to your awesome normal active self soon! I have a question... what do you mean by dropping into the pocket? I am confused about that.

Wasn't it sorta awkward having the doc massage your breasts? Seems like it would be... and him saying that he he loves doing that... what did you mean by that? Just wondering. It seemed like an odd thing. Thanks!

[spot-on]

Hi ladies
Ok day 2 post-op:
Yesterday I had my first post-op appt. The Dr took off the dressings, and I got to see them for the first time. Both my husband and I were shocked cos in the bra and in the hoodie top I was wearing they looked small, naked they look BIG! I know they haven't dropped into the pocket yet, pecs are holding on firmly to the implant, but wowser! Bit of a shock to see them for the first time! I think it was surprising to see that they look totally different nude to clothed, and I can see how in clothes they will look quite conservative if I want them to! not "in your face" like some implants kwim?

At the appt the surgeon also showed me the massages he wants me to do. Squeezing the bottom of the implant up towards the collarbone, hold for few seconds and slowly releasing. 3x on each breast 3x a day. Wow that hurt on the left one! But it's gotten better as I've been doing it and I will say that the discomfort is less. Not all Dr's do the massage but mine is a big lover of massaging them, he said research shows they drop into place quicker, look more natural, promote faster healing and less risks of complications. I'm following his directions to a T!

He also said I can walk around again Last night I joined DH and the dogs for the evening walk, I was slower than usual (cos I am bloated to hell due to the meds) but I did the mile. That helped me sleep too! Walked again this morning and feeling much better.

Oh I also stopped taking the percocet as it was making me loopy, and nauseous! Dr said to just take ibruprofen so I switched to that, and honestly tomorrow I may not even bother with that.

TMI but I didn;t have a bowel movement tues or weds, but finally did this morning! Usually regular as clockwork so unusual for me. Hopefully now I am getting the meds out my system and back to eating, drinking and moving more I hope to lose that excess.

Any questions, just ask!

[spot-on]

Hey Allison
Well they cover you in blankets then strap your legs down it was all very comfortable. I've only ever had a couple of surgeries or proceedures and this was by far the most comfortable I'd felt in any of them.

I'll update tomorrow with a full recap of day 2

Wow, Spot-On, you are a brave soul ! Reading about you being strapped to the bed and being zonked gave me the chills Your account of your experience was very informative and sobering at the same time about this procedure. I hope you are feeling better and got what you desired, I hope your new look turns out good and you stay in good health, the latter being way more important indeed.

[Allison-Shine]

Wow, Spot-On, you are a brave soul ! Reading about you being strapped to the bed and being zonked gave me the chills Your account of your experience was very informative and sobering at the same time about this procedure. I hope you are feeling better and got what you desired, I hope your new look turns out good and you stay in good health, the latter being way more important indeed.

[spot-on]

thanks everyone for the good vibes!

Well here is the details so far:
I went in yesterday at 12.15, they took my blood pressure etc, giving me a check over before the surgery. Dr came in and marked me up. I gave him my pics of boobs I like, natural, natural, natural. Not TOO big, I want proportionate. I guess I was lucky as 3/4 of the pics were from his website of boobs he'd enhanced lol. He said he'd take a couple of sizers in and see what they looked like, I trust him to give me good boobs Then the anesthesiologist came in to double check details, then the nurse was back for the IV. Then few minutes later kissed hubby bye and I was off to the OR. Laid on table, they strapped me to the bed, and the anesthesiologist said he was gonna give me something to relax in th IV. The room went a little blurry and... zonk...

Next thing it was 1 1/2 hours later and I am in the recover room. I felt some pressure on my chest and some pain on my sternum but nothing other than that. Though I was still pretty out of it with the drugs still in my system. I heard the nurse call my husband and he came over. He said "they don't look huge" cos he knew I didn't want bazooka boobs Dr came in to check me over and I got to drink some ginger ale, then 30 mins later they took the IV out, unhooked me, I got dressed and we went home.

Pretty much the rest of the day was a breeze. I felt a little nausea on the ride home but got home had some crackers and juice and that passed. I was just REALLY hungry!!! Spent some time watching TV and stretching every hour (Dr recommends pec stretches). Boobs themselves are numbed with meds still from the op and I have percocet for the pain (every 4 hours) and antibiotics to take (3x day). Other than that feeling good. I was reading, watching tv, and online surfing the web in the evening. Dr called to check on me around 9.30pm Took 2 pain pills and went to bed around 11pm.

Sleeping was tough, not gonna lie. Mostly that was because I am usually a side/front sleeper and I have to sleep elevated on cushions for a few days, on my back. I seemed to wake every hour or 2 just because I was uncomfortable hopefully that gets better. But then I have nothing else to do whilst recovering so midday naps are an option

Yesterday I was having a weird spacial awareness issue with my arms, Where I'd reach for something but my arm wouldn't behave. Put that ddown to the numbing meds cos that went away when the numbness wore off. Basically this morning I am back to normal I feel good, just a little sore. Most of the pain right now is on my sternum and side of ribcage/bra line. Only having 1 pain pill it basically feels like the day after a tough chest workout. The stretching exercises help, just reaching arms behind my back and then overhead. Overhead hurts a little, but it's doable.

The Dr said he put in 350cc, which is a little more than the sizers I tried on at the pre-op but he said that going under the muscle takes a little off the projection, and that when he was "in there" the 350 gave me the look I was after comparing to the pics I bought it, whilst remainining within my breast width distance. I have a surgical bra on that I'm not allowed to remove yet, and so far the boobs are firm and feeling has returned as the numbing meds wore off, they are a little high, not square (if you've seen some post-op pics you'll know how they CAN look), they look like inflated versions of my previous boobs, or filled out version is probably more apt. As I head into recovery weeks they should 'drop' into the pocket and fill out a little more and soften up. Honestly they look better already even in their firm state. In clothes I look just like I did in the VS +2 sizes bra! So if you are looking for a comparrisson to get an idea those things are a good indication! Aside from the shape is a little different (VS bra tended to look like 2 torpedo's)

I have another appt today so the Dr can check on my surgery recovery then I should have another appt next week.

Will keep you all up to date! Feel free to ask questions I am going to be open and honest about it all cos I know that it's hard for us to get REAL information about these things! I wish I'd had someone to talk to throughout this so I want to be that person for you guys. Like Karategrrl said I'd rather be here as the voice of someone who has been a small bustie but opted out and be able to provid us with information that just disappear!

[karategrrl]

spot-on, thanks for sharing so much. I'm glad you are giving us updates instead of just opting to bow out of the group without explanation.

Sending good vibes!

[buttercups]

***seconding those vibes***

I'll be thinking about you today spot-on!

Hope everyone else is doing well, I'm in the midst of finals so haven't been able to post much but I miss you guys!