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> Bacterial Vaginosis--or--embarrassing bad smell
jewelscando
post May 9 2007, 11:10 PM
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LADIES.....

We are discussing B.V. here, NOT DRUG USE. Not trying to be a bitch, but also not interested in your personal drug problems either.

VAGINA'S need to BREATH!!!! Wearing "Pads" while you have B.V. is just trouble waiting to happen, especially if you already have issues with sweating down in that area!! This is why they tell woman NOT to wear Thongs, as it does NOT allow enough air flow through that area!! Not to wear TIGHT jeans for that same reason.

Morphia, you need to give the medication a chance, and you should also be treating yourself for a yeast infection as well. Flagyl WILL give you a yeast infection.

It sounds to me like you have a bad case of something, wether it be B.V. or Yeast, who knows. I think you might want to consider changing doctors and go to one who specializes in Woman issues. More tests should have been done on you, being that you are experiencing so much pain. I PERSONALLY have NEVER had pain associated with B.V. Not saying that it's not possible, BUT, it sounds to me like you have more then B.V. going on up there.

Those of us who have been on this board for over a year, have had B.V. for YEARS. This is why we joined the board to help each other find solutions to this horrible problem, that doctors don't seem to have an answer for. You have to do what works for you. What worked for me is the Flagyl pill put in vaginally. YOU CANNOT DO THIS, because of the pain you are in, unless you want more pain. You don't want to be raw, or burning, when putting the Flagyl in vaginally, being that, IT WAS NOT MADE TO GO THERE. It just happens to work for me.

If you read the archives, you will see the LIST AND LIST of what we all have tried. From my knowledge on this board, there's been two things that have taken it away. Flagyl vaginally and the Estroil. We all have tried EVERYTHING under the sun, to just have it return again. That is why they call it re-occuring Bacterial Vaginosis. It keeps coming back. So, continue taking the flagyl orally, and find another doctor to see if you have other issues going on. That's just my opinion.

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Morphia
post May 9 2007, 09:55 PM
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Well, I don't think the Flagyl is going to work. I'm pretty sure its not. I'm on my third day and I still feel the exact same burn. And I know its not yeast from the meds. From what I've read here it seems that you ladies have bv infections that go away with antibiotics but then they come back. Has anyone ever had one or is currently dealing with one that will just NOT go away AT ALL? As in one constant infection that is resistant to all antibiotics? I know this is only my second treatment but my intuition is telling me that this fucker isn't going anywhere. No matter what I throw at it. And we all know about women's intuition.
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arj75
post May 9 2007, 07:57 PM
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Ilovehim I'm so sorry that your feeling the way you are. I'm on prozac, and it isn't helping but the doctor says it could take four to six weeks for any results. I have read a lot today on research that has been done regarding to bv, stress has shown to be a factor, I'm sorry I don't remember the link, and I was all over the place online today. Of course you know I don't save my search history someone might find out. So my plan of attack is I'm gonna shove a tampon up me when I stink (I'm stinking) and not let it stress me out.

I stink REAL bad after an aniexty attack, it's actually caused it to come back on countless occasions. You should continue to take vitamins, it could take longer than we think for our bodies to get back in check and balance everything out. I nursed my son, had a terrible stressful pregnantcy, and it drained everything out of my body. Which is why I think I can't get rid of this now.

I'm hoping that I can sleep tonight, I"m not sure how many days I have been up..my friend gave me a zanax hope it works..
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bvgirl
post May 9 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 9 2007, 06:19 PM) *
What up.. what up?

Well for me, BV is getting worse everyday. I need to stop smoking weed. It makes me too paranoid. I keep getting these wierd mixed messages from people. Saying that i need to freshen up. Obviously they think i'm stinky sally =(. It's all just too devastating for me.

In all reality, I think i'm the cleanest girl there is. I probably over due it. But hey what can you do when this gets the best of you?

Anyways, What things can I do to stay fresh longer ?
I always change my toilet paper "pantiliner" often. less 2 hours. I think i sweat too much down there it's almost always BURNING, especially after sex. I use body wash, perfume, and body mists. But they only last a little bit.

My depression is getting worse again. I feel dirty and nasty, and hate myself. I'm gonna get put on anti-depressants soo. The appointment is on FRIDAY. Do any of you take or have taken this type of medicine?


Good evening ilovehim... smile.gif

I am sure you know that drugs are not good for you so I really won't comment on that too much. What I suggest you do to mask the smell is to wear a pad. Not a pantiliner(because the thickness in the pad helped to mask the smell of bv at least in my case it helped greatly). I would buy a pack of 48 stay free maxi pads to last me for about a month and use them religiously. I also used the deodorant ones( I would not suggest any one to use any deodorant pads and or pantiliners but in this case you may want to consider using them once a day or if the smell cannot be masked well with just the non-deodorant ones).Stop using any perfumes and feminine sprays down there. Again, I should stress that anything deodorant down there can and or may cause irritation which can lead to a bad smell and or make the bv smell worse. So try to use just the non deodorant maxi pads and change them very often. See if that helps. A big hassle but I did it for three years could not remember a day without using them like crazy (even when I am not on my period it was a big hassle). Currently, I am doing well. I also suggest you go panti less around the house or what have you( when you feel comfortable and no one can cause you to feel bad because of the smell) you should do this to get as much air down there and also it gives you a break from always having to keep your legs closed tight(because of the fear that someone will smell you) and basically feeling free(since no one is around to smell anything). I know this all may sound like a lot to you but I lived it. I know it is easier said than done when I say that you should not feel dirty about yourself and believe me when I say that I too am a very very clean person but try to develop a positive attitude about what you are going through. Just make it a point to change things in your life that may be contributing to your bv and also finding a product that works for you(an endless cycle but who else is going to do it(but you)). We can all tell you and suggest to you what works for us but it is up to you to decide to try this product or that product and use this board as a guide to get to that point. If your doctor can help you that is great but if not (like many of us on here) keep on searching and researching and use the trial and error system. As far as the depression. My advice to you about that is ask yourself are you depressed because of bv or are you just experiencing the basic emotional affects of dealing with bv(because we all are). If you already suffer from depression then yes you should go see him and keep that appointment and let him evaluate you based on much more than having bv. Yes I do believe that bv can contribute to making your depression harder but to what degree does it add to your depression and or does that cause the need for medicine and or maybe just in need of a therapist to talk to you. Ask your doctor. Be sure to be very open with him so you can get the proper help you need with the correct method.

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ilovehim
post May 9 2007, 05:02 PM
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What up.. what up?

Well for me, BV is getting worse everyday. I need to stop smoking weed. It makes me too paranoid. I keep getting these wierd mixed messages from people. Saying that i need to freshen up. Obviously they think i'm stinky sally =(. It's all just too devastating for me.

In all reality, I think i'm the cleanest girl there is. I probably over due it. But hey what can you do when this gets the best of you?

Anyways, What things can I do to stay fresh longer ?
I always change my toilet paper "pantiliner" often. less 2 hours. I think i sweat too much down there it's almost always BURNING, especially after sex. I use body wash, perfume, and body mists. But they only last a little bit.

My depression is getting worse again. I feel dirty and nasty, and hate myself. I'm gonna get put on anti-depressants soo. The appointment is on FRIDAY. Do any of you take or have taken this type of medicine?


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arj75
post May 9 2007, 11:46 AM
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Has anyone contacted Dr. Klebanoff? He is conducting research currently regarding bv. I have his email if anyone is interested..I'm not sure if he would even reply....
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arj75
post May 9 2007, 06:38 AM
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Has anyone who has this chronic bv ever had their blood oxygen level checked? Has anyone read about that? I know stress can do crazy shit to you body. Look up chronic hyperventilation syndrome (it's casued from stress) and see the effects it can have on the body..many symtoms. Oh, I started having aniexty attacks long before I found out that I had bv.
Has anyone ever been tested for nutrient deficiencies? My diet is now, always has been horrible..I don't even know what I can eat because everything that I have read about the body ph theory tells me that I consume WAY to many acids. Many foods that you would think would have high acidic levels do, but have reverse effects on your body. It's rather confusing. Two of my favorite foods, cantelope and califlower... info stated that people with type O blood..thier body has strange reactions to it. I ate it like it was going out of style when I was prego...I read something about throwing out bananas once they get past a certain ripeness because they are no longer healthy on your body...I ate banana splits often when preg..

I'm really sorry if I'm wearing you all out...I'm wearing myself out..but I can't f***ing stop.

Talk to you all later..I'm gonna read about how exactly the vagina maintains ph..already read about the body, and urine..does anyone already know that..do doctors even know that?
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arj75
post May 9 2007, 06:14 AM
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I guess my insomnia is back, since I have tried to go to sleep past three nights, and I havent even so much as fell asleep. I am making another doctor appointment too. I told you all that I was gonna asess my body temperature throught the day (I'm always cold) I have had a fucking low grade fever for past 3 days...99.6..I don't feel sick. I think my ear term. is right, my 7 year old was my control study (98.6)

As far as sharing my past health and personal history..it's a little embarrassing but I will telleverything that I can think of..maybe we can at least find what we all have in common from this disease...if there is anything that hasnt already been investigated or researched already..

My personality type..well, obviously, I'm a worry wart and have been my whole life. (aniexty attacks started this Januaury. Insomnia on and off my whole life.
I had an abortion when I was 17, and it was and is my biggest mistake that I have made in my life. It's even harder to think about now that I have 2 children.

My sex drive is way above normal...I learned how to get myself off at 8 years old (no shit). I have never been molested or anything like that. When I was younger 8 or so, I always had to put toilet paper in my panties..cause I had discharge and my panties would get wet all the time. I remember my mom seeing that I did that and I was too embarrassed to tell her that my shit was leaking so I just said I wanted to be like her. LOL. I don't know if it was urine or discharge..love juice whatever.

I have smoked since I was 18, quit smoking with first prego, not with second ( smoked like a frieght train) this past 2 years have been the worse in my life..divorce, unplanned prego, death of best friend. I left the father of my 10 old 2 days before I delivered.

I just this computer in January, and I'm not sure how to pull all of your quotes a so forth...
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Morphia
post May 9 2007, 12:58 AM
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I also found this little gem in one of the articles I already posted:

"Smoking carried a 70%-100% increased risk." for bv acquisition that is.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CY..._35/ai_65538228
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arj75
post May 9 2007, 12:11 AM
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I meant that I read most bacteria can't survive in acidic levels of anything under 4.5. Sorry I should read what I type. All I know for sure is that I am tired of my snatch burning, and I'm for sure not putting anything under 4 inside her. Bacteria feast on sores and raw rashed skin... It is possible for vagina to be to acidic....maybe your body coul.d never make it too acidic but we can by shoving everything under the sun up there.
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arj75
post May 8 2007, 11:34 PM
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Thank You Morphia! That helps a lot! I'm quiting smoking tomorrow, whether it helps with this or not. I no longer want to smell like long john silvers and an ashtray. I am not gonna stick anything else up kitty for a while..hell it took 8 weeks for my stiches to heal...proly longer for the inside now that I have burnt it up. I guessing that using anything in her that is not 4.5 ph or close is only gonna continue it's reoccurance. Most bacteria can't live in ph over 4.5 anyways..but somehow the good can?? Is that what you have all read? Anything over that ph isn't really needed?
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Morphia
post May 8 2007, 10:12 PM
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Before and after adjustment for possible confounding factors, smoking, but not alcohol and drug use, was significantly associated with BV. Of the women with BV 52% were smokers versus 32% in the control group.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...p;dopt=Abstract

Conclusion: Our findings may be important for planning a preventive strategy for BV by discouraging smoking and increasing condom use and hormonal contraception among women.

http://sti.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/80/1/58


Douching, smoking, and the absence of vaginal lactobacillus emerged as powerful independent risk factors for acquisition of bacterial vaginosis in the first large longitudinal study of this common gynecologic disorder.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CY..._35/ai_65538228

Smoking, which is associated with the acquisition of BV in the non-pregnant [9], has not been addressed in pregnancy.
The current study found smoking to be a significant risk factor for acquiring BV in pregnancy.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlere...i?artid=1581474

And I'm sure there is many, many, many more. Just google "smoking and bacterial vagninosis" It's everywhere.

I also wanted to point out what they say about increasing hormonal contraception. I've read that several times as well. I'll see if I can't find some articles to post on that later.
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arj75
post May 8 2007, 09:47 PM
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Anyone ever tried tomato juice? kinda nasty i know but at least its natural..and well the ph is 4.2... Whats the ph of boric and hydrogen perioxide... anyone know? both tearing me up.

Thanks for the information Ilovehim and to you as well Maggie. I didn't choose the right word though..my boyfriend has been snipped, and well, I'm hoping there are no extra swimmers. I went to GNC today looking for some ph test strips didnt have any though... (i'm just really curious...I'm gonna check my blood, urine, kitty. ( i know she aint right)

I bought some vitamins too. Folic, cranberry pills, and the fem stuff..gonna go take it now. I'm gonna be on vitamins from here on out. If you take iron, your wasting your time if you take it with milk or anything with caffeine. I'm not sure about the vitamin C...I can't remember right now. I know I need it....anyone who is otherwise healthy and smokes needs it.

I quit smoking pot in January....hasn't made a difference..I didn't smoke it a lot in the past couple years either though (smoked it 8 or 9 years)...not proud but did cocaine.....maybe 3 times in past 2 years...never a habit.. I drink one night a week, have for past 4 or 5 years.

Quit smoking for 4 days, but started back.I know I really need to stop..I have asthma for goodness sake. Did you all read that the bad bacteria doesnt need oxygen to grow, but the good does?
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post May 8 2007, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 8 2007, 05:05 PM) *
I really don't think smoking has anything to do with it. I quit smoking after i got preg. and still had the persistent BV. I didn't start up again until about 6 months ago also because of STRESS! I'm not thinking about EVER stopping again until this shit goes away for good... on everything I WILL QUIT!..and I might also stop smoking weed if this problem resolves itself, or should I say when I resolve this problem.



Actually, smoking has a lot to do with it. Maybe not in your case. But I've read a couple of articles that say there is a higher prevalence of bv/recurrent bv in smokers as opposed to non smokers. There's also a post somewhere in this thread (WAAAAAAY back in the thread) that states exactly what chemical it is thats in cigarettes that makes women more susceptible. I think Jewels posted it somewhere....

Btw, I can raise that number from 7 to 11 smokes today. I suck.
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post May 8 2007, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 8 2007, 04:18 PM) *
This flagyl is probably not going to work if I can't quit smoking...ugh...I started up again today because I always do when I get stressed out about something. The bf and I got into again (not concerning this issue. Just other stuff.) I've had about 6 or 7 today. sad.gif Has smoking kept any meds from working for any of you?



I really don't think smoking has anything to do with it. I quit smoking after i got preg. and still had the persistent BV. I didn't start up again until about 6 months ago also because of STRESS! I'm not thinking about EVER stopping again until this shit goes away for good... on everything I WILL QUIT!..and I might also stop smoking weed if this problem resolves itself, or should I say when I resolve this problem.


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post May 8 2007, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(arj75 @ May 7 2007, 09:38 PM) *
OK so I am a little obsessive compulsive but this thought crossed my mind on the body ph theory thing....I wonder what our man's sperm ph is...and what it should really measure..maybe they aren't healthy? I'm gonna look later and find out what the healthy ph should be, and well, guess I'll be doing some experiments....



Well i think sperm has a pH of about 7 or greater. VERY alkaline compared to the vaginas acidic enviornment.


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post May 8 2007, 03:01 PM
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This flagyl is probably not going to work if I can't quit smoking...ugh...I started up again today because I always do when I get stressed out about something. The bf and I got into again (not concerning this issue. Just other stuff.) I've had about 6 or 7 today. sad.gif Has smoking kept any meds from working for any of you?
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post May 8 2007, 10:28 AM
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Hello everyone i just got my flagyl today. If anyone whats to get some i got mine from www.fdamedstore.com
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post May 8 2007, 10:26 AM
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Well, here's an interesting product:

Today pH Balance Vaginal Vitamin C Tablets

Anyone use these before?

(So expensive!)


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post May 8 2007, 08:52 AM
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I can't remember who asked about the diva cup but it's wonderful! It's a hell of a lot better than tampons or pads and it is a lot healthier.
Here is the link:
www.divacup.com

Try it! You will not be disappointed
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