[Sweaty in Social Studies]

At the moment no, but I've dealt with this and yeast for so long I'm paranoid. LOL Especially now since i'm on antibiotics. It's a vicious cycle for me. I just thought that was interesting and wanted to get other's thoughts on it. Especially since we've tried EVERYTHING else under the sun.

The best thing you can do when your dealing with a reoccurring infection is to prevent it from happening in the first place. Do you have an idea of what could be triggering your infections? I'm assuming you've been on antibiotics off and on for a long time, and this could have possibly depleted your T-cells, which help your body fight infection. I'd suggest you see an Immunologist just to be sure there isn't anything wrong with your immune function, or have you tried this already? I don't really have much of an idea of what you have tried.

[konphusion26]

To me, it looks like one of those scams that probably won't work. You still have your bacterial-v infection?

At the moment no, but I've dealt with this and yeast for so long I'm paranoid. LOL Especially now since i'm on antibiotics. It's a vicious cycle for me. I just thought that was interesting and wanted to get other's thoughts on it. Especially since we've tried EVERYTHING else under the sun.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

did anyone else notice This ad at the top of the site?? If this stuff is legit, it could offer hope to some of us who suffer both bv/yeast recurrently. HMMMM..... any thoughts?

To me, it looks like one of those scams that probably won't work. You still have your bacterial-v infection?

[konphusion26]

did anyone else notice This ad at the top of the site?? If this stuff is legit, it could offer hope to some of us who suffer both bv/yeast recurrently. HMMMM..... any thoughts?

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

Hi, Brand Newbie, just learning how to use this and all.

Anyway, CURRENT INFECTION. Just finished Flagyl. YUUUUCCCK.

Real quick about me, problems dating back to pubert, just turned 37. Constant musky, super vaginal smell, like vag perfume going on. The last 10 years especially have been hell on earth. Its to the point I'm avoiding jobs, and have been sexually harassed on jobs.

My current situation is that I'm homeless, have been staying in a temporary facility full of men and degenrates. I am using a computer at the library now. I thought I heard the clerks talking about "that smell".

I have been lurking for a while, and I tried the peroxide douches. I must have done something wrong cause the super-vaginal smell turned to hot tuna and garbage. I HAD to take flagyl but I stunk to high hell, and still detect some fishy, although I just finished my last dose last night.

Now for those who are doing the peroxide with the oral syringe, is this the right way? I used a douche bag that I had, a travel sized one you buy at the drug store and holds up to 16 oz of fluid. First I did half peroxide, half water. When I smelled more fishy, I did 2/3 peroxide, 1/3 water. It didn't work, it made things worse!

Now at this point, I bout rephresh brand probiotics. They have the same strains as FemD, but don't really need refrigeration. I had to go that route, cause I don't have my own refrigerator right now. (for those wondering, I've been doing temporary jobs for money).

Anyway, I can't begin to explain how my vagina has ruined my life, my reputation, self esteem, etc. Especially now. Life would have went well for me in this facility if my vagina wasn't so offensive or noticeable. And now I'm going to another facility for a while, and I want and NEED to fight to get healthy down there. I do have vitamin c, folic acid, Culturelles, and now the rephresh probiotics. I can't afford the feminine washes that I know would agree with me and dove doesn't work to kill bacteria on the skin for me (for labia freshness).

So HEEELLLLLLLP. Please respond with suggestions, but most of all support. I can't have conversations like this with the average person because the average person thinks vaginas are disgusting, dirty, and hilarious (and what a shame....). But I'm tired of living under a cloud of shame. My professional life, financial recovery, and personal recovery depend on getting things tamed and straight down there.

Please help.

Hello "Fun,"

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. You can count on me for support, because I'm definitely here to help you in the best way that I can. "Fun," it's really important to realize that you shouldn't let this infection control you to the point where your not happy with yourself, and your life. If you continue this way, it can further damage your self esteem, and self confidence, to the point where you could possibly develop a mild form of depression, which can be dangerous.

You mentioned that you douched to treat your infection. This was a bad idea. In your case, it instantly made your symptoms worse, and this might have thrown off your vaginal flora. I think I've said this before, but douching is one of the worst things you can do to attempt to treat an active vaginal infection of any sort. More often than not, douching will cover up your symptoms, which is why when you douche, you think the infection has cleared up, but in reality, it never did in the first place. I'm not sure if you knew already, but hydrogen peroxide is used for cleaning cuts and scrapes. Not only that, but according to the National Institute of Health, it is also a poison. A solution as corrosive as hydrogen peroxide shouldn't be going into the vaginal in the first place. Click here to read more information on this. I'm assuming you don't have much money, so you should be very careful about what your using to treat yourself, because it may be a waste of time and money. And using the wrong thing could escalate your infection to something so much more, which could require medical insurance, and lots of money to treat.

It's great that your taking the Rephresh probiotic. Your taking a step in the right direction. Rephresh will most definitely help you if you continue taking it on a daily basis. Culterelle is more or less a preventative, it's probably not going to do much for you. There isn't any clinical research that approves it for maintaining vaginal health. Folic acid is rumored by many women to treat bacterial vaginosis when it's taken with a lactobacillius acidophilus supplement. I've done my research, such as reading books, surfing through medical articles online, and asking medical professionals. Low and behold, there is nothing that states folic acid does anything for the vulvovaginal tract. This is probably due to the lack of research on folic acid, but I know for sure that an over the counter lactobacillius acidophilus supplement's live and active cultures don't normally colonize the vulvovaginal tract. Vitamin C is great for the immune system, but it's water soluble, so taking any excess of Vitamin C will be flushed out into your urinary tract. Your body will absorb what it needs, and flush out the rest, the same way you drink a cup of water and your body flushes out what it doesn't need. Then there is this whole debate about whether supplements are getting absorbed properly and other jazz, that's a whole other story. Any respectable nutritionist will tell you there is no need to take a vitamin supplement if your getting proper nutrition. It's better to get nutrients from whole foods because it will be absorbed properly.

I personally believe it isn't necessary to use feminine washes and wipes. They just leave an invisible residue near that vulva which can further irritate it. Some products can further aggravate an infection because it reacts to the pH of the vagina. You don't need to use any soap to clean, or "wash" the vulva. Just plain old water and a little rubbing will get the job done. This technique is so safe, it can be done as often as necessary. Water is pure and pH balanced, so it will not react to the high vaginal pH. There are some products that I could personally recommend that you try, but, your better off just not using any for the reasons that I stated. It's cheaper, and better for you. As the saying goes, "less is more," is absolutely right when it comes to the vagina. It's self cleaning and self sustaining, which is why you get regular vaginal secretions (discharge.) The vagina is actually cleaner than the mouth. Don't be fooled when you experience a vaginal odor and assume it's because your dirty, it's just because of an imbalance of bacteria.

Since your using your local libraries computer, I will recommend you some beneficial reading materials. These are great reads. Although they may not be available, you can still check. I recommend that you read:

• The V Book by Elizabeth Gunther Stewart
• Probiotics Revolution: The Definitive Guide to Safe, Natural Health Solutions Using Probiotic and Prebiotic Foods and Supplements by Gary B. Huffnagle and Sarah Wernick
• (Textbook) Women's Gynecologic Health by Kerri D. Schuiling and Frances E. Likis

You should attempt to read any books pertaining to gynecology and vaginal health.

This is personal advice coming from me, to you.

From,
Sweaty in Social Studies

[Fun_Phun_Funn]

Hi, Brand Newbie, just learning how to use this and all.

Anyway, CURRENT INFECTION. Just finished Flagyl. YUUUUCCCK.

Real quick about me, problems dating back to pubert, just turned 37. Constant musky, super vaginal smell, like vag perfume going on. The last 10 years especially have been hell on earth. Its to the point I'm avoiding jobs, and have been sexually harassed on jobs.

My current situation is that I'm homeless, have been staying in a temporary facility full of men and degenrates. I am using a computer at the library now. I thought I heard the clerks talking about "that smell".

I have been lurking for a while, and I tried the peroxide douches. I must have done something wrong cause the super-vaginal smell turned to hot tuna and garbage. I HAD to take flagyl but I stunk to high hell, and still detect some fishy, although I just finished my last dose last night.

Now for those who are doing the peroxide with the oral syringe, is this the right way? I used a douche bag that I had, a travel sized one you buy at the drug store and holds up to 16 oz of fluid. First I did half peroxide, half water. When I smelled more fishy, I did 2/3 peroxide, 1/3 water. It didn't work, it made things worse!

Now at this point, I bout rephresh brand probiotics. They have the same strains as FemD, but don't really need refrigeration. I had to go that route, cause I don't have my own refrigerator right now. (for those wondering, I've been doing temporary jobs for money).

Anyway, I can't begin to explain how my vagina has ruined my life, my reputation, self esteem, etc. Especially now. Life would have went well for me in this facility if my vagina wasn't so offensive or noticeable. And now I'm going to another facility for a while, and I want and NEED to fight to get healthy down there. I do have vitamin c, folic acid, Culturelles, and now the rephresh probiotics. I can't afford the feminine washes that I know would agree with me and dove doesn't work to kill bacteria on the skin for me (for labia freshness).

So HEEELLLLLLLP. Please respond with suggestions, but most of all support. I can't have conversations like this with the average person because the average person thinks vaginas are disgusting, dirty, and hilarious (and what a shame....). But I'm tired of living under a cloud of shame. My professional life, financial recovery, and personal recovery depend on getting things tamed and straight down there.

Please help.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

yeah i didn't do it. i've just been taking the kreosotum, washing with the calendula, taking primadophilus reuteri and folic acid. i really think this is working. each day it's a little better. i'm going to keep up with this and see what happens. i douched with peroxide once a few days ago because i got depressed and desperate again... i just wanted to not have to worry when i was with my boyfriend. it's still a lot less than i was last month though because i was douching with peroxide every night. i've only done that once since my last period ended (only a week ago... but still better)

anyway... i'll keep updating on my progress. thanks for your suggestions

Your welcome .

[anitsirhc]

Yeah, you shouldn't use it if it's a tincture solution. The alcohol could really hurt you if you douche with it, or put it into a suppository. The vaginal walls are very delicate, so putting something as drying as alcohol onto it would literally hurt.

yeah i didn't do it. i've just been taking the kreosotum, washing with the calendula, taking primadophilus reuteri and folic acid. i really think this is working. each day it's a little better. i'm going to keep up with this and see what happens. i douched with peroxide once a few days ago because i got depressed and desperate again... i just wanted to not have to worry when i was with my boyfriend. it's still a lot less than i was last month though because i was douching with peroxide every night. i've only done that once since my last period ended (only a week ago... but still better)

anyway... i'll keep updating on my progress. thanks for your suggestions

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

no echinacea and goldenseal never did anything for me. and i've taken it a lot. mostly for colds.

i didn't do the calendula suppository last night because what i have is called a tincture. which is herbs soaked in alcohol and then the liquid is put in a container. so i got worried that alcohol is bad for going in there... what do you think? my smell isn't really bad anymore at all. it's just discharge now and i hate that feeling i want to be dry

Yeah, you shouldn't use it if it's a tincture solution. The alcohol could really hurt you if you douche with it, or put it into a suppository. The vaginal walls are very delicate, so putting something as drying as alcohol onto it would literally hurt.

[horror_movie]

no echinacea and goldenseal never did anything for me. and i've taken it a lot. mostly for colds.

i didn't do the calendula suppository last night because what i have is called a tincture. which is herbs soaked in alcohol and then the liquid is put in a container. so i got worried that alcohol is bad for going in there... what do you think? my smell isn't really bad anymore at all. it's just discharge now and i hate that feeling i want to be dry

My advice personally stick to doing what you doing!! Just don't over do it as you say the smell is light and that a good thing but you don't want to use something else that can probably trigger a bad smell. If the smell is not bothering you no more than wait it out see if your vagina will self treat itself so the discharge will stop then trying to get something else to stick up there to be dry. I use to think Lori was CRAZY AND MEAN when she said she been doing anything to keep the bv away but
- normal hygiene stuff
- try to exercise and eat healthy (the operative word is "try")
- stick something in it or on it once a month when it bleeds
She's freaking RIGHT!!! It took me awhile to realize it. I already spend $400 worth of products that never work for me.
WE CAN'T FORGET WERE TRYING TO GET OUR VAGINA BACK TO NORMAL AND WHEN I MEAN BACK TO NORMAL HAVE SEX WITH YOUR HUBBY/BOYFRIEND,TAKE BUBBLE BATH, GO OUT IN PUBLIC AND WEAR OUR SEXY CLOTHES WITHOUT HAVING TO DO NOTHING BEFORE OR AFTERWARD.
REMEMBER WE CAN'T BE STICKING A MILLION AND ONE THING IN OUR VAGINA IT COULD BE THE REASON WHY IT IS STILL THERE BCUZ WERE NOT GIVING OUR VAGINA A CHANCE TO COME BACK TO NORMAL. IF YOU FOUND A PRODUCT THAT WORK FOR YOU TO STOP THE SMELL THAT'S GREAT BUT JUST DON'T OVER DO IT !!!!!!

Mcf10 was a great help also on this board she introduce us to a good product which is the ONLY thing i use the boric acid which knock out my smell. Now that the smell calm down it now my turn to do what i can to stay healthy by exercising and eating more healthy (i always fail on that one but I'm going do my best) less sex (damn that hurt but i gotta do what right for me) LESS STRESS. I keep everyone updated on my journey of getting rid of bv.

SORRY PLZ DON'T THINK I'M CRAZY OR A BIG MEANY IT'S TRUE!!!

[anitsirhc]

Did you notice any changes when you took the echinacea with the goldenseal? I remember, prior to my infection clearing up, I took a capsuled goldenseal supplement every morning before breakfast, and I could've sworn the odor and discharge was dissipating. I'm not sure if it was my mind playing tricks on me. I was also taking it with a probiotic at the time, but it was a regular acidophilus supplement, so I don't think that could've made that much of a difference. After it ran out, I didn't buy more. By then, I was already taking a prescribed medication that later cleared up my infection.

no echinacea and goldenseal never did anything for me. and i've taken it a lot. mostly for colds.

i didn't do the calendula suppository last night because what i have is called a tincture. which is herbs soaked in alcohol and then the liquid is put in a container. so i got worried that alcohol is bad for going in there... what do you think? my smell isn't really bad anymore at all. it's just discharge now and i hate that feeling i want to be dry

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

oh, and i've taken golden seal a bunch of times. i take echinacea(sp?) with golden seal in it. i've always preferred treating anything with herbal remedies rather than antibiotics.

Did you notice any changes when you took the echinacea with the goldenseal? I remember, prior to my infection clearing up, I took a capsuled goldenseal supplement every morning before breakfast, and I could've sworn the odor and discharge was dissipating. I'm not sure if it was my mind playing tricks on me. I was also taking it with a probiotic at the time, but it was a regular acidophilus supplement, so I don't think that could've made that much of a difference. After it ran out, I didn't buy more. By then, I was already taking a prescribed medication that later cleared up my infection.

[anitsirhc]

Have you tried an herb called golden seal root? I remember how my mother used to say how it was good for the immune system and a variety of other ailments. She grows it in her garden, so she can take it everyday. Her mother was Mojave Indian and a firm believer in natural medicine. I used to believe natural medicine was hocus pocus, until I did a little research, and found out there are some herbs that do have medicinal properties.

I hope your aware of the risk factors that come with douching. I know how stressful it is to have to deal with a vaginal odor. But even as desperate as I was, I never douched. Sometimes I think, if I had douched, the infection would've came back . I've noticed a lot of the women that have tried douching get reoccurring infections. Maybe you can try calendula suppositories, it's less damaging to the body.

oh, and i've taken golden seal a bunch of times. i take echinacea(sp?) with golden seal in it. i've always preferred treating anything with herbal remedies rather than antibiotics.

[anitsirhc]

Have you tried an herb called golden seal root? I remember how my mother used to say how it was good for the immune system and a variety of other ailments. She grows it in her garden, so she can take it everyday. Her mother was Mojave Indian and a firm believer in natural medicine. I used to believe natural medicine was hocus pocus, until I did a little research, and found out there are some herbs that do have medicinal properties.

I hope your aware of the risk factors that come with douching. I know how stressful it is to have to deal with a vaginal odor. But even as desperate as I was, I never douched. Sometimes I think, if I had douched, the infection would've came back . I've noticed a lot of the women that have tried douching get reoccurring infections. Maybe you can try calendula suppositories, it's less damaging to the body.

well my bv was recurring before i ever douched with anything and i got desperate. maybe i will try suppositories. i have gelatin capsules so i can make them myself. i'll try one tonight.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

there are a lot of uses for kreosotum. this website lists them:

http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Kreos

also... if you look here it is listed as a remedy for yeast:

http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/2265000/
calendula is an antiseptic and i think you can douche with it too. it's mentioned in this article:

http://www.bacterialvaginosisrecurrent.com..._vaginosis.html

i got the remedy originally from here:

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/99552/
i'm still doing this remedy. i can still smell it a little bit. my boyfriend doesn't notice anything, or says i smell normal. so i'm not sure if it's just me being crazy or if it's really there. i think it's there a little bit but nowhere near as much so whatever i'm doing is definitely working. (primadophilus reuteri, folic acid, kreosotum and calendula.) i might try douching with calendula soon to get rid of the smell completely.

Have you tried an herb called golden seal root? I remember how my mother used to say how it was good for the immune system and a variety of other ailments. She grows it in her garden, so she can take it everyday. Her mother was Mojave Indian and a firm believer in natural medicine. I used to believe natural medicine was hocus pocus, until I did a little research, and found out there are some herbs that do have medicinal properties.

I hope your aware of the risk factors that come with douching. I know how stressful it is to have to deal with a vaginal odor. But even as desperate as I was, I never douched. Sometimes I think, if I had douched, the infection would've came back . I've noticed a lot of the women that have tried douching get reoccurring infections. Maybe you can try calendula suppositories, it's less damaging to the body.

[anitsirhc]

What is kreosotum and calendula used for?

there are a lot of uses for kreosotum. this website lists them:

http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Kreos

also... if you look here it is listed as a remedy for yeast:

http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/2265000/


calendula is an antiseptic and i think you can douche with it too. it's mentioned in this article:

http://www.bacterialvaginosisrecurrent.com..._vaginosis.html

i got the remedy originally from here:

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/99552/


i'm still doing this remedy. i can still smell it a little bit. my boyfriend doesn't notice anything, or says i smell normal. so i'm not sure if it's just me being crazy or if it's really there. i think it's there a little bit but nowhere near as much so whatever i'm doing is definitely working. (primadophilus reuteri, folic acid, kreosotum and calendula.) i might try douching with calendula soon to get rid of the smell completely.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

hi ladies. i posted here recently saying i was using hydrogen peroxide to keep mine away. well i stopped using that because i kept needing to use it more often and i felt like that couldn't be good.

since then i've been taking primadophilus reuteri, folic acid and something i found on a homeopathic website called kreosotum. so far, i don't really smell that much and my discharge isn't bad. it isn't gone completely but my boyfriend says he doesn't notice anything. i'm not sure what is working right now since i'm using all 3 at once, but i'm going to continue to use them since it's helping a lot. i'm also using calendula and washing with that. i found the kreosotum and calendua remedy on a homeopathic website.

i've been taking 2 drops of kreosotum 30c potency in a small amount of water (i drink it in one sip) 4 times a day. i got that from this website: <a href="http://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/dilutions/J-L/Kreosotum" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/dilutions/J-L/Kreosotum" target="_blank">http
://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/dilut.../J-L/Kreosotum
</a></a>

i put a few drops on my fingers of the calendula and wash with that. i got that from the same website. i got the tincture form of this. here is the link to that: http://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/tinct...ula_Officinalis
i only been taking one primadophilus reuteri pill a day and one folic acid (i'm not sure how many mg.) i've been doing these 4 things for about a week now and i definitely notice a huge difference, i will keep you updated in a few days on how i am doing with this.

good luck to everyone else, hope i can help maybe a little!

What is kreosotum and calendula used for?

[anitsirhc]

hi ladies. i posted here recently saying i was using hydrogen peroxide to keep mine away. well i stopped using that because i kept needing to use it more often and i felt like that couldn't be good.

since then i've been taking primadophilus reuteri, folic acid and something i found on a homeopathic website called kreosotum. so far, i don't really smell that much and my discharge isn't bad. it isn't gone completely but my boyfriend says he doesn't notice anything. i'm not sure what is working right now since i'm using all 3 at once, but i'm going to continue to use them since it's helping a lot. i'm also using calendula and washing with that. i found the kreosotum and calendua remedy on a homeopathic website.

i've been taking 2 drops of kreosotum 30c potency in a small amount of water (i drink it in one sip) 4 times a day. i got that from this website: <a href="http://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/dilutions/J-L/Kreosotum" target="_blank">http
://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/dilut.../J-L/Kreosotum
</a>

i put a few drops on my fingers of the calendula and wash with that. i got that from the same website. i got the tincture form of this. here is the link to that: http://www.hmedicine.com/homeopathic/tinct...ula_Officinalis


i only been taking one primadophilus reuteri pill a day and one folic acid (i'm not sure how many mg.) i've been doing these 4 things for about a week now and i definitely notice a huge difference, i will keep you updated in a few days on how i am doing with this.

good luck to everyone else, hope i can help maybe a little!

[horror_movie]

Hey guys just received my "fem-d pad" n the mail an will b tryn it tonight i have a party to go to an ill keep you guys posted an im very hopeful that this will work. ALSO THIS WAS FEATURED ON AN EPISODE OF THE DOCTORS IF U GUYS WATCH THAT

Did it work??????

[horror_movie]

Hey guys just received my "fem-d pad" n the mail an will b tryn it tonight i have a party to go to an ill keep you guys posted an im very hopeful that this will work. ALSO THIS WAS FEATURED ON AN EPISODE OF THE DOCTORS IF U GUYS WATCH THAT

I ORDER ONE TOO BCUZ I NEED TO COVER UP THIS SMELL FOR LIKE JOB INTERVIEWS, FAMILY GATHERING,ETC....
KEEP ME UPDATED ON HOW THINGS WORK!!! DON'T HOLD BACK I REALLY WANNA KNOW HOW WORK WITH YOU!!!
THANKS