[secretsights88]

DeeRayy, it is quite discouraging to know that a lot of guys comment stuff like that (I only read a couple comments for mental sanity). But we have to take it from where it comes... I mean that website can't be serious... and they did one on penis size prior to the one on breast size. Which means, it's a bunch of guys with the minds of 13 year olds. And I wouldn't like to be with a guy with the mind of a horny 13 year old boy trying to keep up a "macho" appearance just 'cause he's a loser who can't think for himself.

I think of men in terms of, say, diamonds or precious stones. You have to go through a lot of "non" precious stones before you find a keeper. But when you do, it's awesome. And there are some great men out there... the other busties in this forum can attest to that, since they have found lovely husbands or boyfriends.

But yeah, that website was probably made by guys (and for guys) who might even be insecure themselves, but who only know to cope by acting like 13 year olds who can't think for themselves.

[DeeRayy]

ickkkkk, its stuff like the comments on that world map of average breast size that makes me lose hope in guys.

[auralpoison]

World Map of Average Breast Size.

Where do people come up with this ridiculous shit? Seriously? I know they are intended to be humorous, but c'mon.

I found the comments section *interesting*, though. Yeesh. Our troll problems are wee.

Do note the peen map. Apparently the Sudanese & the Bolivians are packing some righteous tackle.

And on the A&F thing, my neighborhood growing was almost 100% little girls. At a certain point (Second grade, maybe?), one of the girls across the alley had been given a couple of her mom's Leggs eggs. She would tuck the bottom of her tshirt into the neck to create a low-cut crop top of sorts & then slip the Leggs eggs halves inside so she suddenly had hard plastic breasts. It wasn't long until we all had them & were tucking them into our bikini tops (the other girls across the alley had a pool!) & pretending we were Coors Light girls. I always removed mine before coming home because somehow I knew my mother would object . . .

[anarch]

Abercrombie & Fitch fiasco re swimsuit, marketed for its push-up & padded cups, for prepubescent girls

[karategrrl]

In this sense, when you write that you don't feel like your gender, I would think that maybe you need to reconsider the basis of that feeling. Has anybody ever called you "Mister"? Do salespeople guide you to the men's section? For me, being a woman is something global and does not necessarily depend on this one body part. Do you remember when Marilyn Manson had a music video where he had breast implants (real, I presume)? Well, he still looked like a guy. To push the analogy further, a person with amputated legs does not bring about any questions about them belonging to the human race. A woman, with less or with more breast tissue, does not bring up the question of being a woman.

This was so well-said. Wow.

[DeeRayy]

There are other parts of my body that I'm not crazy about, in fact I honestly can't really think of any part of me that I actually like, but I can handle that because at least even though I don't think my other body parts are particularly pretty at least they are there. It seems like I'm just missing something I don't know. I also don't think that implants would magically change my life or make me happy or anything, I just think that I would finally feel normal, like when a transgendered person finally goes through the transformation and they are finally at peace in their body. I don't feel like I look like my gender almost, so it would just be making me feel comfortable in my own skin, even though I know that skin still won't be perfect. I can live with imperfection, just give me all my body parts please! Does that make more sense?

buttercups, i know exactly how you feel! i have NEVER been able to feel like a real woman, and even though i may be an A cup, which you said you'd kill for, they are still very flat, especially without a bra on. so i still don't even see myself as heaving breasts, more like nipples with a TINY bit of cushion under them. anyway, i can totally relate to you when it comes to wishing you just had a pair. honestly, i wouldn't even want big ones. i just wish i could fill out a dang bra.

i actually had a moment where i felt really bad about my size again this morning(which is kinda why i'm on the thread right now). i don't know how many of you watch will and grace, but it's one of my favorite shows. long story short for those of you that don't watch it- the character of grace is labeled as flat chested in the show and sometimes jokes are made about it by the other characters. but she takes it in stride and doesn't let it bother her. anyway, i was watching it earlier this morning while waiting to drop my brother off at school and a scene came up where she walks into the room with just a bra and a skirt on so that will can help her pick out a blouse. and i remember pausing the television and saying to myself "oh god, i think i'm smaller than grace. oh god, if she's flat chested then what does that make me, a freak of nature???"

and every time i have a moment like that it makes me weigh out the pros and cons of implants. so you're not alone there.

however, i think limousine made some very good points in her post (btw limousine, bravo on your response! it was one of the best ones i've read.) i agree that although i have never felt like a woman i certainly don't think of myself as a man, although i do feel like my body is boyish sometimes. but i am clearly female to others, otherwise they wouldn't refer to me as "miss". maybe the media has distorted our definition of what it means to be a woman. maybe american society has conditioned us to equate curvy breasts with femininity. the problem might not necessarily be our bodies, but how we view them. so hang in there buttercups! i'm going through a lot of the same feelings you are right now and i know how tough it is.

[anarch]

First of all, thanks anarch for saying that, though I'm not sure you'll think I've come that far after you hear this.

(((buttercups))) I do indeed still think you've come far. Regardless of whether you go for implants one day or not. I could be wrong, but your comments read to me like you know yourself better now than before. That can only make somebody stronger, I think, and better prepared to make decisions that are fully conscious (vs. driven by subconscious demons or poorly grounded rationalizations). Maybe you don't feel like that's accurate, but that's my impression. Kindness to yourself feels, sometimes, slightly less strange than it might once have? (I suggest tentatively...maybe I'm barking up completely the wrong tree and if so, my apologies)

Just remember that feeling comfortable in our own skins is a long process, and there are setbacks and frustrations along the way. But we're in the same...maybe some of us are in not exactly the same boat, but at least the same fleet, dealing with the crosswinds and such? Cheering you on, anyway.

[limousine]

Enfermera I agree that that does happen a lot with people with body dysmorphic disorder, but for whatever reason I don't think that will happen with me. Mainly because my breasts actually aren't really there- much less than an A cup, and I am just longing to look "average" or even just small-breasted instead of completely flat-chested. It seems to me like fixing a deformity. There are other parts of my body that I'm not crazy about, in fact I honestly can't really think of any part of me that I actually like, but I can handle that because at least even though I don't think my other body parts are particularly pretty at least they are there. It seems like I'm just missing something I don't know. I also don't think that implants would magically change my life or make me happy or anything, I just think that I would finally feel normal, like when a transgendered person finally goes through the transformation and they are finally at peace in their body. I don't feel like I look like my gender almost, so it would just be making me feel comfortable in my own skin, even though I know that skin still won't be perfect. I can live with imperfection, just give me all my body parts please! Does that make more sense?

Hi buttercups, as you know, I am dealing with BDD myself. I have to speak up here and contend that it is the very nature of BDD to have the sufferer feel like their preoccupation will not transfer to another part of their body; same with the belief that there is a real deformity in the body.

For most people, emotions are usually a good indicator of what road to follow in life. However, for a BDD sufferer, emotions are not a reliable indicator. For this reason, a BDD therapy will especially focus on the real life consequences of the troubling body part. For BDD sufferers, the consequence of BDD is emotional pain caused by faulty logic and reasoning. You have to move away from the emotions to assess reality and readjust the two. Exemple : Do people call you less often for gatherings because of this? Do you think your professional life will be less successful because of this? Do you think people (at work or in college/university) talk about this aspect of your body behind your back?

In this sense, when you write that you don't feel like your gender, I would think that maybe you need to reconsider the basis of that feeling. Has anybody ever called you "Mister"? Do salespeople guide you to the men's section? For me, being a woman is something global and does not necessarily depend on this one body part. Do you remember when Marilyn Manson had a music video where he had breast implants (real, I presume)? Well, he still looked like a guy. To push the analogy further, a person with amputated legs does not bring about any questions about them belonging to the human race. A woman, with less or with more breast tissue, does not bring up the question of being a woman.

This said, for individuals struggling with a disability, a therapy may be more focused on responding assertively to people who inquire or tease. Or, with working around the limitations of the disability and focusing on the strengths that can be gained.

[buttercups]

Thanks for all of your great insight as always ladies! That article was really good too DeeRayy, thanks for posting it! And secretsights88 I have been around quite a few guys like that and it always makes me feel bad too- what dicks! I completely agree with you that it is different for men because first of all I know few women who prefer a guy to have a big penis- none of us want our bits all torn up, it seems to be a total guy thing, and second of all yeah like you said theirs aren't on display all the time like our goods are. It makes it really annoying.

"Seriously, why do all the men who go on about penis size assume that all ladies have the same-sized lady-parts?"- exactly!!

Enfermera I agree that that does happen a lot with people with body dysmorphic disorder, but for whatever reason I don't think that will happen with me. Mainly because my breasts actually aren't really there- much less than an A cup, and I am just longing to look "average" or even just small-breasted instead of completely flat-chested. It seems to me like fixing a deformity. There are other parts of my body that I'm not crazy about, in fact I honestly can't really think of any part of me that I actually like, but I can handle that because at least even though I don't think my other body parts are particularly pretty at least they are there. It seems like I'm just missing something I don't know. I also don't think that implants would magically change my life or make me happy or anything, I just think that I would finally feel normal, like when a transgendered person finally goes through the transformation and they are finally at peace in their body. I don't feel like I look like my gender almost, so it would just be making me feel comfortable in my own skin, even though I know that skin still won't be perfect. I can live with imperfection, just give me all my body parts please! Does that make more sense?

Thanks for the support strongirl, and my god I admire your confidence. I would totally be with karategrrl on this one cause I am wayyyyy too insecure to let my bf watch naked girls in porn for chrissake, nevermind in real life. I think I would lose my mind with insecurity and jealousy, but I'm glad to hear about all the small boobie love! I always thought that strippers always had to have medium to big breasts for obvious reasons, so thanks for giving us the inside scoop haha because I would never have the courage to do it myself. As far as my bf's little outing, he claims that they never went to a strip club or antyhing and I've decided to trust him. I can't say I was very happy with him going though and did act kinda bitchy when he called. There was one night where we sorta got in a fight cause I was worried and then he went out with his friends and stayed out til 4 in the morning and didn't call or text me the whole night even when he knew I was worried about it. i just wanted one small text at some point before 4 am just saying good night, but I got nothing. That night I was worried about it but I think I'm being crazy and need to just back off, so I believed him when he said nothing went on and I'm giving the trust thing a better try, so we'll see how that goes...

Karategrrl I found it so interesting when you said you didn't mind your guy talking about Milla, I am the same way. I always cringe at watching naked scenes in movies with my bf, wondering if he's thinking about how inadequate I am. One time we watched a movie where the girl had really small boobs and I didn't care at all that he was watching it, in fact I wanted him to watch it and think she was hot so that maybe he could see that I wasn't so bad after all. It makes me wonder that if I had regular-sized boobs if I would even care if my bf was looking at porn and other things that upset me so much. I probably wouldn't care. I probably care now because it makes me feel so inadequate. If he wants to look at porn of flat-chested women, well I really don't think it would bother me at all. Very strange to come to that realization but I had it recently too.

Anyways, I'm feeling better today and second guessing the implants again. What a vicious exhausting cycle! I'm going to have to think long and hard about it. Thanks for offering so much support and insight guys, I also appreciate all of your honesty with me and this decision.

[karategrrl]

He said "Small tits...I just love small tits." He went on and on about it actually, how he can tolerate some extra body fat, he's cool with big hips or a tummy, but tit-wise he's a total sucker (ha!) for small breasts. He'd had a private dance earlier in the week from a girl with large fake ones, kind of for the novelty, and it was "awesome", but still not his body type preference and not what he'd want on a regular basis.

So ladies, I went to a strip club and it turned out to be an all-night small boobie love fest. Who'da thunkit?

Certainly not I! And though I'm not a fan of the strip club phenomenon, I loved hearing that that guy's prefences were for SMALLIES! Yesss! I have no idea how you could go and not get totally tweaked and jealous over your BF grooving on all the women, small-chested or not. That would bug me! Though I have to say we had guests over on Sat on the guys were talking about Millla Jovovich and my hubby said "she's hot" and it didn't really bother me b/c her body is a lot like mine. I guess REAL women interacting with my hubby rather than a woman on the screen would bug me. And it doesn't hurt that I totally love Milla. And it was too funny, b/c hubby couldnt' remember or pronunce her name and I rattled it right off!! Ha.

And I have to check out that Peaches song!

My thoughts on the nip thing: People seem to loooove nips. I have found that I get serious staring from men when I'm flashing the high beams--not that I try to do that--they have a mind of their own!!!! Nips rock!

Love you ladies!

PS: I used the term "booblets" to describe my breasts over the weekend and my hubby thought that was the cutest, funniest thing!

[karategrrl]

my ex was on the small side down there in man land.

You ladies are totally cracking me up today!!

[karategrrl]

You know when the headlights are activated! When they put on the party hats!

When I am, ahem, nipping out (which is actually ALOT. Nothing can tame them!),

[strongirl]

I am getting ready to head up to my favorite clothes optional hot springs today (yay! lots of folks with real, unaltered bodies and parts of every size, shape, and color, relaxing in nature together!) so I'm short on time but wanted to throw in a couple thoughts here.

Buttercups - while I am saddened by the social phenomenon and impact of implants and would not choose them for myself for a long list of reasons, I would still totally respect and admire you if you made that choice for yourself. I felt the same way about Spot-on's decision. Life is not infinite. If you're unhappy about something, it's good mental health to try to figure out what to change to improve things. My personal take on implants is that they would not make me any happier and would in fact decrease my quality of life and my heallth. But I can think of one study that showed that 70% of women with implants were glad they got them. Spot-on was happy with her choice. If I read in this forum that you got them and that you loved them, I'd be filled with joy for you, not judgment!

That said, I think you're getting some excellent advice from DeeRayy about working hard with a good therapist first. Not only could your head get healthier, your body won't suffer!

How did your bf's strip club outing go? I am short on time but did want to share a bit about a recent experience I had. I went to a strip club with my bf and another male friend of ours. They had been to it earlier in the week and wanted to take me (partly as a way of not making me feel excluded or stepped out on, I think). It was a totally fun evening and quite educational, LOL! One of the things my bf told me he liked about this club was that most of girls' body types were to his liking - small-breasted, slender, and petite. I was quite surprised to see that this was true. There was one augmented chick and a couple with largish (B+ to C cup) breasts, but the rest (maybe 10 girls?) were probably A cups. There were also some obvious figure "flaws" - tummies, loose skin here and there, cellulite - and I was again reminded that in spite of their posturing (like in the posts below), most men are damn happy to see naked women and they are WAY more forgiving of such "flaws" than most women are, to themselves or other women. The overall vibe was relaxed and friendly, not at all icky or hostile or sleazy. One of my bf's favorite dancers was a girl with no breast tissue to speak of but prominent nips. She had a tight, smokin hot body. I ended up not liking her enough to do a private dance because she had a rather snotty, detached demeanor. But yeah, the body - wow. She was quite popular with the guys. When my bf was getting drinks (non-alcoholic cuz it was an all nude club) I turned to our friend and asked if he had strong body type preferences or if he was pretty flexible. He said "Small tits...I just love small tits." He went on and on about it actually, how he can tolerate some extra body fat, he's cool with big hips or a tummy, but tit-wise he's a total sucker (ha!) for small breasts. He'd had a private dance earlier in the week from a girl with large fake ones, kind of for the novelty, and it was "awesome", but still not his body type preference and not what he'd want on a regular basis.

So ladies, I went to a strip club and it turned out to be an all-night small boobie love fest. Who'da thunkit?

[enfermera]

I just have to pipe up and put in my two cents: Anyone with true, diagnosable Body Dysmorphic Disorder is NOT going to benefit from plastic surgery. It can be a good option if you are emotionally and mentally stable and realistic about yourself, your thoughts and your body, but if you truly have this illness, your problems will continue and even be exacerbated by surgery. People with BDD tend to end up having more and more and more surgeries, because they continue to be dissatisfied and unable to see their bodies as they really are. Think Michael Jackson (I don't know for sure if he suffered from this, but the pattern is similar). They often think that there is just one problem, and once it is addressed they will be perfectly happy, but instead the discontent and exaggerated perception transfers to another body part, or makes you feel that the one surgery didn't quite make things perfect and you still need to be "tweaked." Buttercups, tread with caution. We love you and know you're beautiful inside and out!

[Persiflager]

*delurks*

I like what the Kama Sutra says about penis size - it's not about having a big penis, it's about having a penis that is a good fit with the relevant lady's vagina. Seriously, why do all the men who go on about penis size assume that all ladies have the same-sized lady-parts?

Also, in my experience it's a rare man who feels brave enough to stand up in a group and say that they don't care about breast size or that they prefer small breasts. The closest socially acceptable statement is what your friends said, 'big is nice but it's not important'. There seems to be this weird disconnect between what men actually find sexually attractive (which spans the whole gamut of women), and what they say they find attractive because it confers status upon them if they can get it (slim, busty, blonde?). I think that because society places a premium on big boobs, there can be an assumption that a man who says not really into that is only saying so because he doesn't think he can get it .

Anyway, I just meant that it sounds like most of your friends don't actually agree with this guy, and probably thought he was very immature.

*relurks*

[secretsights88]

Hello there girls... I'm a bit down about this whole breast thing, and all because of One. Stupid. Guy.

So there was this guy along more friends, and somehow breast size came up. Most guys were like "yeah, big is nice, but not the most important, I'll take anything", you know. But one of these guys (who thankfully is not a friend of mine) was like "Oh but it's hard wired [oh how I hate that 'excuse'] in men's brains to like big breasts better, we're not cavemen anymore, but those instincs are still there. It's not fair, but hey you women prefer a bigger penis too!" [again, that makes me ANGRY... two wrongs don't make a right]. Anyway, he's so wrong! NOOOOOO, NOT ALL WOMEN WANT A HUGE DICK!!!! It's not the same! Especially because breasts are "out there", unlike the dick which is safely concealed from people's eyes. Oh how I wish men had to walk with their stuff hanging out, literally, all day so they'd get a clue! And size has never been important... I care a lot more about a guy not being selfish in bed, which, sadly, is something that a lot of guys my age are.

It felt like he was saying "Sorry kiddo, you're just not good enough, but hey, that's life so just deal with it". And I especially hate the "oh women do it too!" kind of men who feel entitled to discriminate women based on looks just because supposedly women do it too (which yes, some women do, but hardly are they a majority AND the few that do are hardly a catch). In my experience, like I mentioned above, most women don't care much about looks, we just want a guy who's not a selfish pig.

Anyway... I, digress... I just came here for some body positive small breast support, and really thanks to the Universe for this forum because, really, it always brings my mood way up

Re: implants, I think it can make life better for some women in some very particular cases. For instance, women who do it because they think it will automatically make men desire them more are going to be disappointed. But in other cases, in which men are not really a deciding factor, well... I can see it helping a bit more there. I think in buttercups' case it's more of the latter, because she doesn't seem to have huge expectations that implants will be a life changing experience, and things like being able to buy a more average selection of bras or feeling more comfortable in clothes might help. Now, I'm not encouraging buttercups to get implants, I think therapy needs to come first. But I think if she were to get implants, it'd be more for her own peace of mind than to impress men (or other women) and that's a healthier perspective I think.

And nippling (lol, cool term!), well, I like it on certain occasions (when I want to tease a guy for instance, or when I want to feel particularly female). But they are instant attention grabbers... so sometimes I haven't been able to deal with the attention (very appreciative I might add). So Kera... they get a LOT of attentio, but trust me, no one will be thinking "Oh, her boobs are TOO SMAL" (unless it's an envious female, which can happen... but most people will be like "wow!" and blushing... even other women).

Nipples are the sexiest part of the breast anyway. And (I might be biased), but I think that smaller breasts tend to have sexier nipples.

Now I'm feeling sexy... which always reminds me of a song by Peaches, "AA XXX"... I'm not a AA, I'm an A, but I also think XXX often so yeah... it's a fun little song...

[DeeRayy]

I know that same sinking feeling where you just feel completely invisible and unattractive and it hurts so much that if you're anything like me you've even thought that you can't keep going on like this (not saying I'm suicidal or anything so no one worry I would never! But just sometimes get so down on my own insecurities and feel so bad about myself that it leaks into every other aspect of my life and feel like I just want to give up).

I think you should give this article a good read. i think it'll show you just how unhappy most women are with their bodies. the point of the article is that no woman is one hundred percent happy with their body all the time, and that although it's unrealistic to want to have a perfect body image, it is possible to combat those negative thoughts. so even though you said you think i'm stronger than you, i still have my moments when i feel so defeated that i don't wanna get out of bed.

i also think that the fact that you think you have body dismorphic disorder is a good reason to see a therapist rather than a plastic surgeon. i am a big advocate of talk therapy (heck, it's what i'm going to school for) and i think you would benefit from it. I've only been once but i'm gonna start going again soon because it helps you see the holes in your own logic, and it helps you see the bigger picture.

i actually do agree with your mother on the whole health thing. i seriously considered implants last year, but i read up on all of the health risks involved and i just knew i couldn't do that to myself, especially since (as i said before) i would only be getting them to please men if i did, not for myself.

i'm not judging you if you wanna get them for yourself. my mom wants to get a tummy tuck because c-section childbirth has left her with large amounts of excess skin, and i'm supporting her because she's doing it for herself and herself only.

however, i think you should take a long hard look at why you want to get them and what you think will happen after you get them. do you think your life will somehow magically be better once you get them? because it won't. i used to think, "oh, if only i had a boyfriend my life would be so much better". and when i finally got one, i still felt the same way about myself and there was no magic *poof! you're happy now!*. there was no actual increase in the quality of my life, and i'm actually much happier now that i'm single and going to college. so, if you want implants because you think they'll magically make you happier then you would be getting them for the wrong reasons.

and finally, there is nothing wrong with you in the first place! yeah, i might get down on myself for not looking like a maxim cover girl but i don't think that there is actually anything wrong with the fact that i have a nearly flat chest, it's just a physical trait.

as for me, i'm actually going to my doctor's office next week to start a nutrition and weight management class. my parents raised me on microwave foods and i don't know much about eating healthy and all that jazz, and while i'm not that big, i know i'm not as thin as i could/should be. so even though having bigger boobs might ease how insecure i am with guys, losing my tummy would make ME a hell of a lot happier. and i have a younger sister that looks up to me, so i also think about what kind of an example i would be setting if i got implants.

anytime i feel down about my breasts i watch a good Audrey Hepburn move (she's my role model tehehe) and it reminds me of how she was beautiful not only on the outside, but had a beautiful spirit and soul as well and that is why she is so iconic and was so loved when she was alive, and i'm sure she never let the fact that she had a very small bust stop her from pursuing her dreams.

but ultimately it's up to you. and if you do decide to get them please make sure you know what you're getting yourself into.

my god that was long....

[buttercups]

First of all, thanks anarch for saying that, though I'm not sure you'll think I've come that far after you hear this.

DeeRayy, *huge hug* god do I ever know exactly how you feel. I know that same sinking feeling where you just feel completely invisible and unattractive and it hurts so much that if you're anything like me you've even thought that you can't keep going on like this (not saying I'm suicidal or anything so no one worry I would never! But just sometimes get so down on my own insecurities and feel so bad about myself that it leaks into every other aspect of my life and feel like I just want to give up). Anyways, yeah it really hurts and I actually had some similar emotions last week. I was doing my women's health rotation for school which of course involved doing breast exams. I prepared myself beforehand knowing that I might feel bad about myself, but didn't quite know what I would do to handle it. Well, sure enough after a few days of having nothing but breasts in my face I couldn't help but feel inadequate and abnormal. Not that I was checking out all my patients haha, but I was waiting to see if there was at least one woman with a chest as small as mine and not a chance- no one even came close. It just made me feel more abnormal and like a freak of nature. I spiraled downwards and have been just starting to come out of it, though I go back for more this week ughhh. I guess it just reminded me of everything I don't have and how I'm not like other women and I desperately want to be just average like everyone else.

Anyways, in the midst of all this I decided to seriously consider giving myself implants for graduation. I'm just so goddamn sick of this and I would love to just get my boobs done, buy some normal-sized bras, and just never think about this again. I told my mom that come graduation in May I was going to do it and just get it over with, and she totally freaked out on the other side. My mom went beserk on me and told me that she thought I was stronger than this and a stronger person to resist societal expectations of what I should be. I told her I was doing it for me and she told me that it's ridiculous how I make my life all about my boobs and how superficial it is. I kinda hate when people make me feel like I'm being superficial because it is a very real, serious issue to me where I feel deformed, and I'm pretty sure I have body dysmorphic disorder so I can't really help my feelings, I take them very seriously. She told me that I would be a total idiot to risk my health for something like that and why can't I just accept myself for how I am (At this point I am kinda losing faith in that). She said I can't live in her house and do it, that she wants me completely moved out and that shes glad I might be moving away with my bf because she doesn't want to even look at me after. So see my mom had a very different reaction than yours DeeRayy. She claims to see girls in the ER at her work all the time with infections and crap from implants. Idk how true that is but yeah she totally flipped. Needless to say I'm still considering implants cause no one else has to live in my body and I'm unhappy with it, so I really just want to change it (don't kill me guys!). I also think my almost complete lack of breast tissue is different than girls who have at least an A cup- I would kill for that, so I look at it almost like reconstructive surgery.

But anyways, I totally understand your spiral DeeRayy and all I can say is we need to stay strong together. I wish I had better advice for you but just know that you are not alone. I'm very surprised at what your mother said and commend you for sticking up for yourself. My mother is on the other side of the extreme and while I wish she woudl understand my feelings on this matter, I guess it would be weird to me if she suggested it. You are a lot stronger than me though, I can say that. I wish we could all take some class on confidence together or something and support each other in real life, but I am rooting for you and everyone else here <3

[DeeRayy]

i have mooore questions once again you guys!

ok, so i was doing alright (not great, but alright), the last couple of weeks. but for some reason, this last week i just felt horrible about my appearance. i really don't know what brought it on, but it was BAD. i'm talking calling my best friend on the phone crying about how i can't see how another guy would ever be attracted to me bad. oh god, i cringed just writing that last sentence.

it might have something to do with the last study session i attended at my university last wednesday for an art history final. i was in a good mood and we were waiting on my friend , let's call her hailey, to get there so we could start. and she is a rather busty girl. so when she came in i immediately noticed that her cleavage was like, all out. and not only did i notice, but so did every guy in the room. and they all spent the next few minutes sneaking peaks at her chest, including the really cool guy that i was just hitting it off with!

i felt invisible! i know that's the last thing i should be worried about when studying for an exam but it just kinda happened.

anyway, the next day i vented crying to my cousin/best friend on the phone and my mother overheard me (i commute to school to save money). we talked for a while and she actually suggested i get implants! i got upset, and she just said "i just think it would help your self esteem. you don't want implants but you're not happy with yourself naturally, i don't understand."

i just replied that implants are gross and that i didn't want them. what she doesn't get is that if i were to get them it would be for the completely wrong reasons. i don't mind being small but i get very down on myself about it because i feel so insecure about how guys will judge them.

idk what the actual question here is. but what are your thoughts on all the stuff that i just described?

[DeeRayy]

I've heard some girls say that people have found it attractive or a turn-on or something, so they do not mind when it does happen. But for me, it is sort of the opposite. When I am, ahem, nipping out (which is actually ALOT. Nothing can tame them!), while it is drawing attention to the fact that I actually have boobs (always a nice reminder to the nay-sayers, I must say), it is also drawing attention to how I am smaller than the other girls because peoples' eyes are drawn to them, so they have to be thinking about that.

I found this so funny to read because my nipples are the one(or two...?) part of my boobs that I do like! I don't think any guy could ever NOT be turned on by the site of a girl's nipples, no matter what kind of boobs they are attached to. That's actually one of my favorite perks of being small, the fact that i'm so sensitive there. from my experience my breasts, especially my nipples, are so sensitive it's actually overwhelming to have a guy play with them too rough or too long (is this tmi?)

anyway, you don't have any reason to feel that way. the only type of men that should be turned off by the site of your nipples are gay men. and i agree with anarch totally. anyone that judges you because of your boobs obviously has insecurities of their own.

which reminds me of something a close teacher told me in high school last year when i was crying to her over what had happened with my ex bf. she told me "any guy who is predisposed with the size of your breasts obviously has size issues of his own, if you know what i mean." and that comment totally made me smile, because my ex was on the small side down there in man land. haha. oh, irony is sweet sometimes.