[karategrrl]

Crinline, that's a great story!

There's a guy in the gym who talks to me--all the while staring at my breasts. Or actually it must be my nipples he's staring at, because I don't have much in the way of breasts, especially in my boob-squashing workout tops.

In the past I've been very self-conscious, wanting to cover up and not have anyone look at me. Recently I've been thinking, "fuck it!" while actually getting a bit of a charge out of knowing Gym Boy is checking out my (--MY--) tits!

Nipples ARE great. I love nipples.

[crinoline]

yeah, I usually wear my most padded bra on my "fat" days, to tone down the bloated gut effect. But, speaking of going braless-
I'm happy to report that my small breasts got both me and my boyfriend out of speeding tickets.

We were driving up to school, I was following him, so we were both going the same speed. I was wearing a tight thin ribknit tank top and no bra for a comfortable drive. The cop pulls us both over and after doing the whole license n registration thing he tells me to get out of the car. I do and he takes me around behind my car, I can see Crinoboy craning his neck trying to see what's going on. The cop asks me how old I am, despite it being right there on my license in his hand. He then asks me what I do in school, if I like it, etc., generally chatting like he didn't just pull me over. The whole time I can tell his eyes aren't on my face, even though he's wearing those scary reflective cop sunglasses. It was also cold, so my bralessness was rather obvious. After the weird conversation he smiles and tells me to let my boyfriend know not to speed in his town and he lets us go with no further ado.

So you don't need cleavage to get out of a ticket! Hooray for small and perky!!

(It wasn't as creepy as it could have been, the cop was attractive in a shaved head overly muscular kinda way, sooo not my type. but at least he wasn't beer-gut redneck cop)

[konphusion26]

Knorl! thanks for the links my friend. Maybe I'll just stock up on sports bras and make things alot simpler LOL I wish I could go braless all the time honestly. I really hate the way bras feel (probably cuz i'm getting the wrong size) and would prefer to let the girls go free. But the whole cold/nipple pokeage thing is pretty embarassing to me. i'm shy!! Besides, my gut is usually toned down by a good padded bra! HAHAHAH!

[karategrrl]

The line I usually get is "well if it makes them feel better about their bodies I think it's a good thing". To me the fact that women feel the need to put a foreign object in their breasts to make them feel adequate is a sad statement on society and not something we should accept as normal.

I couldn't have said it better myself!!! It IS incredibly sad, I think, that so many people think it's acceptable. Did nature make a mistake that man can somehow "correct?"
I get a little freaked sometimes when I think of future generations. We have all sorts of implants for all sorts of body parts--breasts, chins, calves, pecs, etc., and all sorts of cosmetic procedure that didn't even exist years ago. What will everyone look like 50 years from now? Will it be freakish or some sort of fetish to be a person who's "all natural?" Will we eventually go to a body store, pick out a manufactured, "perfect" body, and just have our brain implanted in it? <shivers>

[knorl05]

wasnt sure where to put this.
here's a great website that attempts to combat negative and distorted imagery of women in the media.

about-face.org
mission statement:
About-Face's mission is to equip women and girls with tools to understand and resist the harmful stereotypes of women the media disseminates.

worth checking out...

[knorl05]

i've never been professionally fitted either kon. i just stick with what seems to fit and does the job (titties + bra = enough for me). they're not big enough to need a whole ton of support, so i mainly wear them for appearances sake and for my own comfort because i hate going without. starship gave great advice. if you go someplace like victorias secret.. i think they cut their bras for bigger breasted women, so you may run a bit small to their standards, which wouldnt be an accurate size for you. i would try an independent boutique, or even have your best girlfriend help you. here is a good website with information if you want to try to diy: finding your size

[starship]

hey konphusion...Ive never been measured professionally either. I just imagine some snooty assistant eyeing me up as though I had no need to be there. I'm usually in too much of a rush to bother trying on aswel. Unfortunately this means quite a few bras laying redundantly at the back of my drawer. On the other hand being smaller chested there isn't too much scope for mistake. Plus Ive found that all bras seem to come up different sizes which makes things a hell of a lot harder. Anyway...I know from friends that you don't have to be topless or anything. You just wear your bra or one of my friends just wears her tshirt. Ive heard that a lot of places are inaccurate too. A woman on TV who is a 34b went to different places and got told she was 36a/34c/32d/38b and so on

[konphusion26]

I have a question ladies... I've been lurking around this thread for quite some time cuz i really didnt think i had anything to contribute. I THINK i'm about a 36B right now. Pretty sure i was a 38 a few months ago while taking birth control. ANYWAY... I've never been professionally fitted for a bra and it seems like my gues-stimation method is leaving me with bras that either don't fit properly under my breasts or if they do fit properly around/against my ribcage, I'm usually left with space between the padded cups (AHAH) and my actual boobs!

I guess my question is, have any of you ever been fitted professionally and if so how do they do it?? Do you have to be braless and topless for that? I'm kinda shy LOL

[LilMissStrange]

So true Knorl, amen!
I guess I felt the need to apologize for that post because every time I have a conversation with people about implants I always get told that I am too hostile or judgmental. The line I usually get is "well if it makes them feel better about their bodies I think it's a good thing". To me the fact that women feel the need to put a foreign object in their breasts to make them feel adequate is a sad statement on society and not something we should accept as normal. I've also been told I'm bitter about it because I have small breasts :/ Idiots. It's always guys, or girls with bigger breasts that defend implants it seems in my experience.

I relation to what you said about no one being perfect:
I've been fooling around with this new guy, who I think I posted a while back about because I was worried about him being a "breast man". He's been nothing but cool and even said that in his experience the so-called 'prettier the outside the uglier the inside' and then went on to say not that I wasn't pretty but I'm not the typical girl you see on a magazine, and that's why he likes me But yeah, I was super nervous when I hooked up with him because he's gorgeous and so my type and I became really insecure about myself. When we fooled around together the first time I realized that his penis is definitely on the smaller side and I truly don't care about penis size but it made me feel better because NO ONE IS PERFECT! He's so confident and good in bed that I've been inspired by him to not give a fuck, and the sex has been AMAZING!!!! We've both acknowledged that it's been the best ever for both of us

To quote an older, wiser friend that was giving me some advice: "it's not about parts and size, it's about passion".

[newo_ikkin]

Right on, knorl! I feel inspired. =]

[anarch]

That was freakin' beautiful, knorlo. It should be pasted in locker rooms and bathrooms, next to every mirror, and passed from hand to hand until people stop tearing each other down. Not a manifesto ( manifestos are angry aren't they? calling for revolutions) but a desiderata. Uplifting and sane-making. Thank you.

[knorl05]

lilmiss: i think it's hostile due to the frustration women feel over our body image equaling our self worth. what i'm most concerned about is how many women in this thread (myself included) make mention of the relationship between men and our breasts. men dont have relationships with our breasts, they have relationships with our whole beings. no man is perfect and no woman is perfect. meaning, i'm sure there are quirks and imperfections in men that they obsess over as well. maybe they've got man tits. maybe they're a little flabby. maybe their dick is a bit round. maybe they've got musty balls. you know.. i think we need to put less energy into justifying our bodies and validating our sexual appeal.. and put more energy into who we are as individuals and what we bring to the table, as people.

think of the most attractive person you know, is it merely physical? or does their character/intellect/talent make them more appealing? i think the objective should be to stop worrying about our bodies, and to stop concerning ourselves with whether or not our men are breast men, leg men, butt men. they're men. we're women. if being sexy is important, we should work more toward embracing our sexuality than trying to conform our bodies to the standard ideal. you know, because sex is so much more than two shallow bodies coming together.

i'm just saying... if we want to truly be liberated women, i believe we need to let go of some of the expectations we feel that men find are most physically attractive about us. any thoughts?

[LilMissStrange]

Wow! It's been so busy since I've last been here....
Greenbean I feel you! It's not even the size that really bugs me, I would be happy with two A cups. It's the fact that they don't match and that they're more pointy then round...grrrr......oh well, I am determined to get over it and not let it bug me anymore.

I just saw this post from a random person on a message board that I thought kinda put things into perspective;

"fake tits are fucking gross. You have to deal with what you have, even if it's not what you imagine "most" men like. All having fake tits does is secure your fate of winding up with a shallow dick who dates girls for the size of their titties.

I pity you, fake tittied broads."

Sorry, it's a little hostile

[greenbean]

omigosh Kiera Knightley does NOT need a boob job. jeesh.

Came across this article the other day: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...001&sc=1000
Kinda sad how men are getting chest insecurities too (note that its mostly gay men).

The older I get the more I think small boobs are hot. A lot of my female friends and family members have big breasts, and I used to be jealous, but honestly, I'm not anymore. I just wish mine were both A cups, rather than one A cup and one barely A. I kinda feel like a mother of twins, where one twin is smart and exuberant and the other is runtish and slow, ..and I can't help but hold contempt for the slow one. Aarg! I'm a bad mother!

[starship]

wow, she's a stunner!
I love seeing people in the celeb world with body types I can relate to. Unfortunately it's usually ruined by comments from people around me. I remember discussing Keira Knightly with a friend and her saying she didn't understand why someone with that much money hadn't got a boob job yet. As though it was some mandatory operation for anyone with small breasts! I think the ones who don't sucuumb have way more balls and deserve more respect and admiration than all of those weak silicone-filled bimbos. I think shows like Frasier etc want to portray more realistic characters which is why the women aren't the stereotypical hollywood type- and that's how it should be! The women who we get thrust in our face as role models don't vary enough. There should be women with different shapes/sizes/colours/quirks in the media

[knorl05]

ps. i love how yoanna from amernextopmodel is so shameless with her form. she says she used to be overweight and so she had to develop a thick skin. i can dig it.

[knorl05]

Have any of you noticed how both frasier and will & grace have average looking, quirky, liberated women as their main characters? I think that's pretty cool. I've often felt the reason for this is due to the fact that the show topics are a bit more sophisticated than the norm, which targets a different audience: an audience of thinking individuals. This observation further solidifies my idea that in the thinking world, typical and overt sex appeal really are more offensive than anything else.

[KeraBear]

Sorry you last that awesomely done post, Starship... but congrats on your breakthough though... i am working on it...

I am WOMAN, hear me roar DAMMIT!

[starship]

Argh a fab and articulate post just got eaten somehow so apologies if its replacement is a bit rushed.
It basically said that I understand about feeling unwomanly or inferior...butttt....today i had a bit of a breakthrough:)..I looked at my body as a whole rather than just concentraiting on the 'bad' bits in isolation if that makes sense and i even found myself thinking that my boobs actually look kinda cute. May sound weird but it's something that- thinking about it- I've never really done. Sure, i have plenty of imperfections but there's also some good parts that in a way balance it all out. For example, I'm sure many of you here like me are far more blessed in the derriere department than many of our bustier friends . I think nowadays with it being so accepted and humdrum surgery is something that seems tempting to most of us at times. But we're all intelligent enough to know deep down that despite large breasts being the 'in thing' being small does not make us any less sexy, womanly or significant. Once again- I love this thread! Helps me keep things in perspective

Celebs that haven't succumbed- yay!

now I'm going to go sulk over my deleted post...

[KeraBear]

Knorl05, you are sooooooooooooo right! I cannot tell you how much some of the posts on this board has helped change my perspective. I guess i am slowly getting there. It certainly does not make it any easier being a teenager though! I get teased a lot...

I don't think i would like to have breast implants either. I definitely do not want large breasts because they would not look right on my small frame, but having SOME breasts would be nice... you know a little something to show people that I HAVE hit puberty?