[ShugD]

Hi sooo sad....
It sounds like you have come up with a good routine to keep BV controlled. I think your routine makes sense and will try it. Thanks for sharing what has been working for you.

[sooo sad]

hello ladies............

i haven't wrote for awhile but i do read and try to keep up with everything at least once a week. a lot of new busties here.

just wanted to update on my condition....

well, i've had bv since 2007. drs have tested for every std known to man, everything neg except for bv everytime. been on clindamycin, flagyl (about 4 times), and another antifiobic but forgot the name. nothing helped. i don't really have a smell but a thin, gray discharge with itching and buring sometimes. did some research found boric acid...name brand yeast arrest. yes, mainly for yeast infections but it cures bv also. i did that for a whole month as recommended. the discharge went away for like 2 days. then found this site and LORI;) mentioned FEMDOPHILIS. i have been taking this religiously for almost 1.5 years. it made my discharge less but still there, then i tried SASSY's:) regimen.....she makes her own boric acid with capsules. the yeast arrest has other herbal stuff in it and it made me have a discharge all day but the symptoms where gone while using it. so i tried making it and it's better than the yeast arrest. same effect but the discharge is way less, about 90% less. so i tried inserting femdophilis too. i know that the boric acid kills the bad bacteria and some good also so i wanted to replenish the good and i thought why not insert the femdophilis. i did and sometimes i noticed some blood, i thought it might be the capsule so i would open the capsule and empty the bacteria in the gelatin caps that i use for boric acid. works like a charm. so what i do now is insert a boric acid monday, femdophilis tues, wed, thurs night, then boric on fri, sat and sun nothing. i've been doing this since dec 2008. at first i had to play with it, then eventually i came up with my routine. i have sex only with trojan ultra thin condoms and i use silk as a lubricant because it's all natural ingredients and not too harsh for the vagina. i can cope with the extra effort to be almost a normal woman. hopefully in the future my vagina can be like it was before.

hope this helps someone. i really needed help when i first had to deal with this horrid devil. i became suicidal also. at least i can help one person and i will be happy.

so my daily routine:

1. femdophilis in am by mouth(every am)
2. monday-boric acid at night. tuesday, wednesday, thursday-femdophilis emptied into a gelatin cap, insert at night. friday-boric acid at night. saturday and sunday-nothing
3. every night ultimate support vaginal flora by mouth(every night)
4. more fresh foods, less processed. i don't know if it helps but i do it anyways.

hope this helps someone:)

[ShugD]

Hi Everyone, I am 45.
I am wondering if anyone out there is on hormone replacement therapy (HRT) because of a complete hysterectomy and suffering from repetative BV infections. I can't have sex because after the hysterectomy it hurt so bad. I kept trying for 1.5 years and hurt every time. I finally told my husband no more.
I started HRT at that time to try to get my vaginal walls healthy again and immediately developed a BV. That last 6 months have been constant BV...doctor....flagyl.....Difulcan for yeast.....Flagyl for BV....Boric Acid for yeast.....stopped the HRT....tried the Flagyl again and was ok for about a month.....no sex but tried a small dildo to get vagina used to being penitrated without pain....ended up with another BV.....went back to the doctor......

I finally found a doctor willing to work with my dosages of Hormone replacement without making me feel like a walking time bomb but the BV keeps coming back.
My last prescription was for Clindamycin vaginal cream. Took the BV away but I got a yeast infection within 2 days. Switched to Boric Acid for two weeks and now the BV is back.
I read about the vitamin c treatment but the bleeding scares me. It seems like the ones that have problems with the Vit-c treatment are the ones that have had a hysterectomy.
I think this is all such BS. The key is to find a way to keep a normal balance of good bacteria in the vagina. Anyone know of a natural way to introduce good bacteria? I have read that there are two types of good bacteria in the vagina. One: Lactobacillus Crispatus (CTV-05) and Two: Lactobacillus Jensenii
I have been unable to locate a probiotic that contains either of those strains. I am hoping someone out there knows something about this.

[Morphia]

I came to this site two years ago with bv that would not cure even for a day. No matter what meds I used. No matter what I did. It never went away for a minute. I had a terrible group B infection that I got eliminated (excrutiating pain, I must say.) But the regular bv was always there. I was diagnosed with a pretty bad vitamin D deficiency a year ago. I thought it was the answer to my problems. My chronic fatigue, my bv. I did research and found no links whatsoever to bv and vitamin d deficiency...Until now. I get a medical news letter in my email and one day I was checking my mail and right there in front of my face was an email with the subject "Vitamin D deficiency linked to bacterial vaginosis." Ever since I've been supplementing with the prescription vitamin D and tanning my bv has gotten exponentially better. Its still there. But before, my bv was so bad and irritating I couldn't have sex. At all. Now I can have sex whenever I want to.

Vitamin D deficiency is so prevalent these days because of the skin cancer fear that is abounding in this country. Sun block inhibits vitamin d synthesis. Even an SPF as low as 15 hinders vitamin D production almost entirely. It is important that we get at least 10-15 minutes of sun exposure WITH OUT sun block to get adequate vitamin D. Exposure of arms, face and legs is sufficient. 10-15 minutes of unprotected sun exposure is safe. I could go on for days but I won't. I'm just going to tell you to google vitamin d and research it yourself. Not sure if anyone has posted this find yet, but here it is: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/703577

Everyone go out and get your vitamin d levels checked. You need to know for sure that your level is low because vitamin d is nothing to play around with.

But as I said, vitamin d deficiency is running so rampant in this country I wouldn't be at all surprised if its the cause of most of the women's bv issues on this board.

In this article it says that a level below the norm of 80 is associated with an increased risk of bv. So if your doc checks it, its below 80, and they say you're fine make them read this article.

[jlo]

Femanol has been talked about before, (click here.) Were you diagnosed with bacterial vaginosis?

Thanks. Wish I would have seen that part of the forum before I bought $130 worth. Yes - I was diagnosed with BV. I believe I have had it for about 3 years but misdiagnosed. Just had twins & now it seems pretty prevalent. Just finished generic Flagyl and felt good, even after sex, but right after period and another round of sex.... it's back! Have another appointment next week... and around & around we go!

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

i still get so angry when i think of why i have bv that won't go away... a few years ago i went and got a pap smear and my doctor called me a few days later saying i had an "imbalance" and prescribed me the single dose clindesse. i didn't even have any symptoms. i really wish i knew what i know now cause i never would have used it. after i used it i started getting discharge and itching so i went back to the dr. she told me i still had the imbalance and gave me clindesse a second time. if you look it up online there are so many bad things about clindesse and it specifically says not to use it more than once in 90 days because it can and most likely will cause the infection to be resistant to antibiotics.

that doctor got fired btw... i wish there was something i could do because she really messed me up for life

Your story reminds me of my own. Before I was diagnosed with my infection, I scheduled an appointment with my general practitioner, and she examined me, and she said something like, "I can see you have increased discharge, but all of your cultures came back negative." I was so sure that something wrong; there was an odor and everything, it would smell musty one day, and change to a very heavy thick odorous smell the next day, which was really confusing at times. This is why I assumed I had bacterial vaginosis. So, I told my general practitioner, and she tested me for bacterial vaginosis, and the culture came back negative. She did the whiff test, and she didn't smell anything, and all this other stuff. After about my third visit, she prescribed me three doses of flagyl because she suspected I had a yeast infection, and she had also convinced me that the odor was all in my head. So, I took the flagyl, and it didn't work. I came back, and then she prescribed me metrogel because I wasn't responding to the flagyl. I took the metrogel and it didn't work. Finally, after about five visits to my GP, she referred me to someone else. And lucky ol' me was diagnosed with 2-3 species of non-albican yeast. I've always known about yeast infections, but not non-albican yeast infections. It's supposedly a type of yeast that is antibiotic resistant, which is what Dr. Stewart told me. You know what's the most ironic part of all, she prescribed me boric acid, which is something I didn't want to use in the first place. I thought it was used for killing roaches!

Sometimes I wonder if doing all of those treatments made my symptoms worse. If I had been more firm, and aware at the time, I probably wouldn't have gone through so much trouble. I really trusted my GP's input, and wanted to believe what she was saying. My general practitioner isn't a bad doctor, but her specialty isn't in gynecology.

I feel bad for you though, only finding temporary relief, but never anything permanent. But I do know for sure there is a medication currently being regulated by the FDA that is in it's second phase (Phase II), which is prescribed to treat antibiotic resistant bacteria such as MRSA, and resistant strains of e. Coli. If there is a drug that can treat MRSA, a very dangerous superbug, I'm sure there will be one that can treat bacterial vaginosis.

[anitsirhc]

i still get so angry when i think of why i have bv that won't go away... a few years ago i went and got a pap smear and my doctor called me a few days later saying i had an "imbalance" and prescribed me the single dose clindesse. i didn't even have any symptoms. i really wish i knew what i know now cause i never would have used it. after i used it i started getting discharge and itching so i went back to the dr. she told me i still had the imbalance and gave me clindesse a second time. if you look it up online there are so many bad things about clindesse and it specifically says not to use it more than once in 90 days because it can and most likely will cause the infection to be resistant to antibiotics.

that doctor got fired btw... i wish there was something i could do because she really messed me up for life

[anitsirhc]

So ... to anyone using the BIO-FEM gel: Is it comparable to the RepHresh Vaginal Gel? I can't seem to find a list of ingredients for it.

i think it is more similar to acid jelly. i think i remember acid jelly being talked about on here a long time ago but it's not prescribed in the US anymore. i have the biofem here i'll type the ingredients... aloe barbadensis extract, xanthan gum, galactoarabinan polyglucoronic acid crosspolymer (based on 2QR: patented polyssaccharides), glycerin, caprylyl glycol.

it really was working for me, then i went on vacation with my bf and we had sex without a condom, a few times, and kinda rough. i think that messed things up for me cause it's back now. also, he has 2 penis piercings which i'm almost positive make it worse. i should really be using condoms always... but even though it's back, i haven't had sex since wednesday of last week and it's going away now. i'm still using the biofem every day.

I'm also using bio fem because of you and I'm getting very good results I feel like my old self
Again nobody not rubbing their noses when I stand to them nothing. I feel good for first time but
I don't want to get to happy before it stop working on me. Last night I had unprotected sex with my
Husband.Now after sex is always worst for me so I try the bio fem no smell at all. I never had a product
So amazing. Thanks a lot for your info you really help me!!

i'm glad it's helping!!! how long have you been using it? and are you using any other treatments? i'm still taking primaophilus reuteri.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

Hi. New to chat but have been reading for a few weeks. Has anyone tried Femanol? Natural supplements rolled into one. I just ordered a 3-months supply. If you google, you will get all kinds of hits. I only see positive reviews. It is expensive but I hope, in the end, it is better than hitting dead ends.

Femanol has been talked about before, (click here.) Were you diagnosed with bacterial vaginosis?

[jlo]

Hi. New to chat but have been reading for a few weeks. Has anyone tried Femanol? Natural supplements rolled into one. I just ordered a 3-months supply. If you google, you will get all kinds of hits. I only see positive reviews. It is expensive but I hope, in the end, it is better than hitting dead ends.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

So ... to anyone using the BIO-FEM gel: Is it comparable to the RepHresh Vaginal Gel? I can't seem to find a list of ingredients for it.

[auralpoison]

Artsylove, what are you, twelve? By all means take your ball & go home, you silly git.

Look, you drank your own urine twice (Which I don't see why it was so hard outside of it being psychological or you had a yen for asparagus. Cheap tequila is harsh, pee isn't. It's sterile, salty fucking water your body has already processed.) & have been douching (Douching isn't very healthy either.) with it for a week. Say it with me, for a WEEK. A week & you are encouraging others to do something that while not outright harmful is still not a very good idea. Waste isn't intended to be recycled except in dire situations no matter what some yahoo writes up on some webpage. Pooh-pooh science all you want, but I'm pretty sure douching with pee isn't the answer.

As far as the toxicity of boric acid or peroxide? Extremely minimal. EXTREMELY. This is why they are frequently used as antiseptics. As long as you aren't packing your vag with the stuff, you should be fine. YOU do YOUR fucking research from someplace REPUTABLE.

And when were there ever "experts" on here, Horror_Movie? Unless by "experts" you mean struggling women at their wit's end with a history of BV & being misdiagnosed/receiving ineffectual treatment from the medical community. I know Chacha comes around sometimes, but she's more in the gen health & homeopath threads.

Conversation can only be had if one is willing to contribute. Perhaps instead of bailing for a month, you should stick around & try to stimulate the thread, H_M. I see BV girls on all the time (Ya'll pick the saddest names.), but when nobody posts anything new/progress reports, etc, things stagnate. A little proactivity never hurt anybody.

[horror_movie]

Listen. Suffering can lead to desperate measures. Nothing is a sick as the nasty discharge of bv so u need to open your mind to things, Urine is safer than some of the things people are experimenting with on this board such as boric acid and peroxide which are toxic. Do a little research. I only drunk mine twice, because I hate doing it, but believe me if I continue to have this I will start intense urine therapy. I am douching with my urine once a day and it helps alot! better than peroxide and it doesnt burn, and I dont feel like its burning my tissues. Its also free and convienent. If I have to deal with bv my who life this is how I will manage it...and I dont smell at all with this treatment...I probably smell better than you....

Instead of smelling like must or fish you smell like urine with perfume!! Do what you do and I'm going do what
I do. If your smell is gone Good 4 you!!
Peace gone for another month because this board is useless all the experts is gone

[artsylove]

Listen. its working for me and thats all I have to say. Try to help people...I wont anymore....I guess people will keep trying different medicine's from the doctor that do nothing..fine with me..Scientific evidence is bullshit. It says we should be cured with flagyl....U dont have to take my advice...I was just trying to help...and for the "smell better than you" comment I was responding to someone who said I probably smelled. If I ever find a cure to bv ill keep it to myself since people on this forum seem to be bitches and are not open minded. Since the medical community has failed us, we have to look elsewhere...ill look myself...

I call complete & utter bullshit. There is no scientific evidence of a therapeutic use for urine (The jellyfish sting thing is an old wive's tale & could actually make things worse.). It's not "nutritional" (Water, urea, various compounds, hormones, metabolites, corticosteroids, excess/unuseable vitamins.) at all. Drink your own pee if you think it helps you (Placebo effect, anyone?), but you're basically just reintroducing to your body the waste materials it already excreted once. You'll just re-excrete it since your body saw fit to not absorb it in the first place. Urine "therapy" is probably not going to hurt you, but it certainly isn't going to help either.

I'm also a bit wary/leery of taking medical advice from somebody that can't spell the words forum, therapy, desperation, or douche. Not to mention the whole, "I bet I smell better than you do" thing. Way to get taken seriously.

ETA: Exactly where are you buying your peroxide from? It should be no more than .99 a bottle. If you're ingesting bottled water instead of tap, the resulting pee can be pretty pricey in the long run.

[auralpoison]

I call complete & utter bullshit. There is no scientific evidence of a therapeutic use for urine (The jellyfish sting thing is an old wive's tale & could actually make things worse.). It's not "nutritional" (Water, urea, various compounds, salts, hormones, metabolites, corticosteroids, excess/unuseable vitamins.) at all. Drink your own pee if you think it helps you (Placebo effect, anyone?), but you're basically just reintroducing to your body the waste materials it already excreted once. You'll just re-excrete it since your body saw fit to not absorb it in the first place. Urine "therapy" is probably not going to hurt you, but it certainly isn't going to help either.

I'm also a bit wary/leery of taking medical advice from somebody that can't spell the words forum, therapy, desperation, or douche. Not to mention the whole, "I bet I smell better than you do" thing. Way to get taken seriously.

ETA: Exactly where are you buying your peroxide from? It should be no more than .99 a bottle. If you're ingesting bottled water instead of tap, the resulting pee can be pretty pricey in the long run.

[Sweaty in Social Studies]

Hello,
Ive been an observer on this formum for a long time. I have been suffering with BV for 5+ years and have tried every medication, herbal remedy, and diet change under the sun with no results. At extreme despiration I have tried a something new that has offered some hope of healing. Brace yourself......Im am doing URINE THERPY. Yep. I drink a small glass of my own urine in the morning and douch with the rest of it. I have def seen improvement in my BV. I may douch with it twice a day sometimes. Its free (Not like peroxide) and it doesnt burn. Ive been doing it for about a week. Drinking my urine is really hard for me, and I really dont think im drinking as much as I should. Urine fast are recommended but I have to work my way up to that. I know it sounds gross but this BV has given me no choice...It will be hard if not impossible to do the first time you try, but u just have to think about how the BV is destroying your life and youll get over it. Urine is supposedly very nutritional and healing for the body. If anyone has the guts to try it plese let me know if your also getting results. Hope this helps someone. Here are some links on Urine Therpy:

http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html
http://educate-yourself.org/fc/
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm
http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/tradition...ine-therapy.asp
http://www.leaflady.org/urine_therapy.htm
http://www.anael.org/english/urine/index.htm

I've never heard of urine therapy before. I'm assuming the only reason it could be working for you is because your douching. My only concern is, you probably still have an active infection, and douching can cause the infection to spread farther. Not only that, but your removing "good" bacteria when you douche, and you need that good bacteria for your vaginal flora to get back on track. My advice to you, is to find a remedy that doesn't involve douching. Since the intestinal flora, and the vaginal flora are interrelated, you should try remedies that more benefit the intestinal tract. Since bacteria resides in the intestines, and greatly impacts intestinal health, you should eat foods that are raw, fermented, and cultured, such as: kefir, sauerkraut, cottage cheese, raw vegetables (and fruits), raw garlic (which has clinically studied antibiotic properties), raw unpasteurized milk (not recommended for everyone), wheat, and a variety of other foods that are not processed. These foods introduce "good" bacteria, enzymes, and complex nutrients that inhibit the intestinal epithelium, fighting for space to colonize, making it harder for bad bacteria to thrive. I just don't want you to do a remedy that won't work and harms you in the process.

Good luck,
Sweaty in Social Studies

P.S. I know what it's like to be desperate for a cure, but it's important to find a cure that works.

[artsylove]

Don't be drinking your urine that just disgusting and you probably still have
The smell even doing that. Its so not worth it and shouldn't even recommend
To anyone else. Drinking urine is why people don't like coming on this board it getting
Over board that it so sickening.

Listen. Suffering can lead to desperate measures. Nothing is a sick as the nasty discharge of bv so u need to open your mind to things, Urine is safer than some of the things people are experimenting with on this board such as boric acid and peroxide which are toxic. Do a little research. I only drunk mine twice, because I hate doing it, but believe me if I continue to have this I will start intense urine therapy. I am douching with my urine once a day and it helps alot! better than peroxide and it doesnt burn, and I dont feel like its burning my tissues. Its also free and convienent. If I have to deal with bv my who life this is how I will manage it...and I dont smell at all with this treatment...I probably smell better than you....

[horror_movie]

Hello,
Ive been an observer on this formum for a long time. I have been suffering with BV for 5+ years and have tried every medication, herbal remedy, and diet change under the sun with no results. At extreme despiration I have tried a something new that has offered some hope of healing. Brace yourself......Im am doing URINE THERPY. Yep. I drink a small glass of my own urine in the morning and douch with the rest of it. I have def seen improvement in my BV. I may douch with it twice a day sometimes. Its free (Not like peroxide) and it doesnt burn. Ive been doing it for about a week. Drinking my urine is really hard for me, and I really dont think im drinking as much as I should. Urine fast are recommended but I have to work my way up to that. I know it sounds gross but this BV has given me no choice...It will be hard if not impossible to do the first time you try, but u just have to think about how the BV is destroying your life and youll get over it. Urine is supposedly very nutritional and healing for the body. If anyone has the guts to try it plese let me know if your also getting results. Hope this helps someone. Here are some links on Urine Therpy:

http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html
http://educate-yourself.org/fc/
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm
http://www.lifepositive.com/Body/tradition...ine-therapy.asp
http://www.leaflady.org/urine_therapy.htm
http://www.anael.org/english/urine/index.htm

Don't be drinking your urine that just disgusting and you probably still have
The smell even doing that. Its so not worth it and shouldn't even recommend
To anyone else. Drinking urine is why people don't like coming on this board it getting
Over board that it so sickening.

[horror_movie]

i've been using the bio-fem active gel for a week now and it is definitely working. there is no more smell. i just finished my period so i can't tell if i have any discharge yet. i'm also taking primadophilus reuteri. i read that someone cured their chronic bv by using this remedy.

i'm using the bio-fem for a month. first 2 weeks 3 times a day. 3rd week 2 times a day and 4th week once a day. i think i will continue to use it 3 times a week after that because i'm doubtful that the bv will stay away if i stop completely. bio-fem is good for you though and not bad if you keep using it so if i have to keep using it i will.

i'm taking primadophilus reuteri 2-3 times a day (i'm trying for 3 but i keep forgetting to take it.) once i feel like i'm positive that this is completely gone i will only take it once a day.

i feel so relieved that i finally found something that's not harmful and is working!! i'm too tired to look up links right now so if anyone wants information ask me. hope this can help!!

I'm also using bio fem because of you and I'm getting very good results I feel like my old self
Again nobody not rubbing their noses when I stand to them nothing. I feel good for first time but
I don't want to get to happy before it stop working on me. Last night I had unprotected sex with my
Husband.Now after sex is always worst for me so I try the bio fem no smell at all. I never had a product
So amazing. Thanks a lot for your info you really help me!!

[anitsirhc]

i've been using the bio-fem active gel for a week now and it is definitely working. there is no more smell. i just finished my period so i can't tell if i have any discharge yet. i'm also taking primadophilus reuteri. i read that someone cured their chronic bv by using this remedy.

i'm using the bio-fem for a month. first 2 weeks 3 times a day. 3rd week 2 times a day and 4th week once a day. i think i will continue to use it 3 times a week after that because i'm doubtful that the bv will stay away if i stop completely. bio-fem is good for you though and not bad if you keep using it so if i have to keep using it i will.

i'm taking primadophilus reuteri 2-3 times a day (i'm trying for 3 but i keep forgetting to take it.) once i feel like i'm positive that this is completely gone i will only take it once a day.

i feel so relieved that i finally found something that's not harmful and is working!! i'm too tired to look up links right now so if anyone wants information ask me. hope this can help!!