[Vendetta]

my bf got me lingerie for christmas 2 years ago, he bought a corset with matching panties at Intimissimi. I believe it is size 1 or something since he asked for the smallest size available. It's just slightly padded and it doesn't fit me at all, it remains with just two empty cups. It's beautiful but I only wore it once. So it was the first and the last time I got lingerie for present.

[crinoline]

lightchested - my husband would get a kick in the balls that Christmas!! Good for you, you don't need them!

starship - What about a chemise? If you know whether you're a small or xsmall, then it would be easy for the bf to get something sexy that would fit
like
this
or
this

yeah, my boy once got me a beautiful silk lingerie set (that I had picked out) and I've never been able to wear it, because the cups remain empty when I put it on. I was waaay too hopeful that their 32B (the smallest size they made) would fit my 32A frame. BUT he's had great success with silky nighties, rompers, or cami sets!

[lightchested]

My husband wants to get me boobs for Christmas. That's my Christmas story. I keep telling him no. He's not a bad guy...he's doing it so I'll stop obsessing about them. But that's not the way I want to resolve my obsession so I keep telling him no.

[starship]

i think its almost inevitable that most guys will watch porn at least a little bit. i dont mind as long as its not excessive and if its always the same sort of women (i.e big boobed 'perfect' model type ones) then i get kinda insecure and annoyed about it. It's one thing that makes me wish the internet wasnt invented- i could easily deal with a couple of magazines/dvds stashed under the bed but a whole WWW worth or porn is abit argh. if i was to find a bf looking at porn containing all sorts/types of natural looking ladies though i dont think id have a problem with it, even if it was quite frequently. itd be reassauring in some ways

i dunno why the big boobed busties (well, the one quoted) have to use us as a negative comparison. i think ive acknowledged before how the topics of convo are so different in the two forums but not with quite the same tone...

I was in john lewis the other day looking for xmas prezzies and noticed they had quite a few bras stocked in AA & A sizes. mostly plain ones but still means theres one more shop on the list of places i can actually buy bras

i bought a gorgeous new lepel bra from an ebay shop that arrived today. it's lacey, pink and completelyyy unpadded!!! usually i have trouble finding those sort of bras in a size that actually fits snuggly so im pretty happy about my find:).

hi lightchested! yeah this is kind of like one big continuing conversation rather than smaller, more particular ones like you might find on other websites. keep posting:)

As its coming up to christmas- Has anyone got any stories about receiving lingerie gifts? i know it can be quite a traditional present from bfs but id hate the idea! Itd be pretty impossible for them to get the right size and even then it might not fit me/wouldnt be flattering so id feel uncomfortable. Id love if i was a Bcup so my bf could easily just go into a store and pick up something sexy he'd like to see me in:(

[karategrrl]

Yes, neurotic Nelly, you understood my meaning in what I posted about porn. No, jacking off to porn is not cheating, technically. But, like you said, anything done to the extreme can be detrimental to aspects of life--it's a matter of balance.

I speak from personal experience about the porn, as I've been with people who COULDN'T get off unless there was porn involved--a real woman (such as me) wasn't enough. So no, the pictures/movies, etc. do not themselves destroy relationships--people who are obsessed with porn do. And the ease with which one can access tons of porn, of any kind and suiting any taste--from Playboy-type stuff to downright tasteless and grotesque stuff--makes it easy for many people to form an obsession with it. In some ways it can be..how should I say...educational... but in the grandest scheme of things I think it does more harm than good. But it doesn't matter--porn has always existed in some form or other and always will, I think--I mean, cavemen drew cave art with people fucking and stuff.


Topic change:
As for the large-busted women saying their thread has absolutely nothing to do with men, I disagree. We all form our opinions of ourselves, to some extent, based on feedback from other people, men included. If we all lived in vacuums, we'd never grow or have anything to experience, good or bad.

Am I the only one who sense a tad of pride in that comment, "Well, no shit Sherlock. That ain't the fuckin' point. What goes on in here isn't about finding/keeping a man." No, that's not what it's all about. "

[lightchested]

I have no idea if I am doing this right...I couldn't do a new thread. Are we supposed to keep replying to each other even if we are not actually replying to a previous post?

I've been reading this forum for months to get me through very hard times, so first off, I want to say thank you to you all. I love how having small breasts has become almost a feminist issue on this site. It gives me new directions to go in to deal with my smallies...I think I'm going to re-read The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf for more inspiration in dealing with this "affliction" (this is a joke, to do with the link I posted below).

The reason I decided to post today is to show you all an article that went up on the web over a month ago. I don't know if you've already seen it, so I apologize if it's already been posted. I am usually VERY sensitive about my smallness, but even I had to laugh at this article. I hope it does not offend anyone: the author is not making fun of small breastedness, but at the industry that makes us believe there is anything wrong with it.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/plast...eneral_warns_of

[neurotic.nelly]

I think that anything can be detrimental to a relationship if it becomes an obsession or addiction i.e. shopping, or working too much. I think the same can be applied to porn. I do not look at the sites with the too "perfect" women and/or men. I hate those sites. I like the more amateur stuff, and real orgasms. My boyfriend and I have boundaries around the stuff, and it works out just fine for us. No jealousy, and healthy sex lives. But, it definitely isn't for everyone. It's understandable.
Betty Dodson recommends porn to help women feel more confident about the differing size and shape of their vajayjays, and I apply the same practice to viewing smaller busted women get down and dirty. So, femininity definitely does not come from the size of your boobs, and I know because I just saw it, and she was hot.

my 2 cents. peace.

[loonydaray]

okay vendetta i get it now
i went to lurk in the large breast forum today and was reading about it so yeah

but seriously i have something to vent
i was on some random internet websurf last night and stumbled upon some guys comment in which he extremely dissed those of us with miniboobies, calling us disgusting little boys
what.the.fuck.
and then i was lurking in the large breast forum and found this freak who was trying his best to cheer up our largebreasted sisters (and failing rather miserably) and HE in the process mentioned how he the little boy figure didn't do anything for him
which, w.t.f. is his problem? here he is trying to convince those girls that their boob size is just right because life isn't about boob size, and then turns around and says that small-boobies make us look like little boys??? hypocrite much??
excuse the vent but those two are just pissing me off
do we look like little boys? hell no! so how the hell can small boobs make us into little boy figures?
that is the stupidest, most annoying idea i've ever heard
yeah i've heard these body types called little boyish
but to hear someone be so turned off by that??
if blood could really boil because of anger i'd be in a lot of pain right now
some guys are just dickheads
plain and straight

[loonydaray]

karategrrl i know exactly how you feel! thankyou for agreeing with me i hate feeling like the only prude too

and vendetta i'm not sure exactly what she is talking about in that post?

[Vendetta]

I don't lurk at the large thread but I did it today:



I know the lil' gals thread has some bitching to the effect that they don't dig their mates interest in big boobs because it makes them feel insecure, but um, not us. I just find it galling that he obviously didn't take the time to read & he seems to think this thread is about our lack of mates/dates, whatever. 'There are lots of guys out there will love you for you!' Well, no shit Sherlock. That ain't the fuckin' point. What goes on in here isn't about finding/keeping a man. It's purely NOT. It's more about, "Where can I find a sexy EEE bra?" or "Some creep on the street made me feel really marginalized today" or "I caught sight of my tits in the gym today & realized how awesome they are!" or "Has anybody tried this sports bra?" It has very little to do with love or relationships or MEN & their opinions on breast size.

[Aithinne]

mynameislala, Welcome! I know exactly how you feel, along with everyone else here, I'm sure. It's almost like you feel stuck and don't know what to do, or what the reality of attraction really is. You're always wondering, "is it really true that men are only attracted to perfect women?" It's a struggle to feel confusion and anger at a culture and men that seem to reject you flat out because of some feature that you were born with. But at the end of the day, I think it is true that there are some genuine people out there, even if they are more quiet than the loud small-breast haters. I don't know how many positive words I can offer about men, since I'm also struggling to believe that there are actually men out there that would want someone like me. But it does help to come here to this website and read about women who have men that love their bodies and them as people. It certainly gives those of us who are still struggling some hope.

Good luck, and try to think positive about yourself. I know it's really hard to change your way of thinking about yourself, but try anyway. I think you'll feel better. I try to think about all the small-breasted women I know who are confident and have men that love them and think they're totally hot. If it can exist for one woman, why not for another? Why not for you and me? Just knowing that there are some men in the world who go against our stereotypes about them is very comforting and helps a lot in those times where you start to doubt their existence.

[Vendetta]

Why would you care that much about those "beauty" standards? You should look at yourself instead of looking at those women. Do you feel the need to have bigger breasts because those men love them? I don't get it, I'm sorry.
We all live our daily lifes being real and dealing with real people. I've said this once here and I'll say it again. I can understand someone who wants some breasts because she feels they're gonna make her feel okay but cannot understand someone who's just trying to fit into society molds and in my opinion, that is related to men. And no, wanting breasts "for yourself" isn't a myth, there are people who don't care about society standards and still dream about a slightly bigger chest, "for themselves". Is it fitting that important, really?

And I don't agree porn is a way of "cheating", I believe insecurity makes women hate porn. I've been on both sides so it's just my opinion.

[mynameislala]

Yeah, I think that's because we're a country that from the beginning has no true identity - considering we were ruled by Spain for centuries. But still, it's weird because Brazil was ruled by Portugal for a long time too, and from what I've seen they're a lot more diverse in their culture. They're more tolerant, etc. Sure, they are the Mecca of plastic surgery but in other cultural aspects they seem to be more aunthentic than us (for example, music... here in Chile, these last few years, the only music you hear in clubs or parties is reggaeton. No pop, nor electronica, salsa, whatever... just reggaeton). It's said that my country is like a sponge for new trends. However, we take everything to the extreme, which is why I think guys here just love implants and why young girls are, err... "easier" everyday. Really, 14 year olds record themselves giving oral sex to their classmates using their cell phones and upload that stuff online.

On porn... the thing that bothers me the most about porn is the fact that everyone is so "perfect" and trashy. Women have huge breasts, tiny waists, they are toned, tanned. And I think porn is also detrimental to men's self image. Every guy I know would like to have a bigger penis. Practically all guys think that size matters. But maybe if they didn't watch so much porn the wouldn't think this. I don't know many women who have actually been with a guy with a 10 in. penis. None actually. And I don't know any woman who would want to. I believe it'd hurt or maybe it'd be a waste. Especially since I'm a clit girl. But men continue to believe this because they watch the male porn stars and the females moaning the moment the guy goes in, and they think that they need a larger "manhood" as they call it. It's stupid and pathetic really. Why should sex be more enjoyable just because a female has horrible implants or a man has a longer penis? It's stupid, yet men continue to believe the myth.

I hate these standards of beauty. I think we would all be happier if no one had ever thought that beauty meant 36-24-36. BS to that though, but, when will the rest of the world (especially men) learn?

[karategrrl]

it seems to me that too many problems arise from the porn industry
i know some chicks are okay with their guys looking at porn but i can't imagine why
why should they ogle(sp?) other women? why do they feel the need to?
i would feel cheated on if whatever guy i'm with looks at porn. what's the difference between him grabbing a boob or jerking off to pictures/videos of boobs? he'd still be having sexual thoughts about other women
and idk, i just think sex is something meant for two people
idk exactly how to say what i mean O.o

Thanks for posting this. Sometimes I feel like the only "prude" who thinks porn is really not the best thing in the world. Sure, I think most people have thoughts about people besides their partner at some time or other, but to really indulge in the fantasy, or especially to go to strip clubs, to get to the point where you're putting out a lot of sexual "energy," if you will, toward others, whether it be real people or pictures, is potentially deadly to a relationship. It destroys the sacredness of what you're supposed to share only with the other person. And many people think you haven't cheated until you've actually completed a sex act with someone else, but I think "cheating" can happen way before that point.

mynameisislala, welcome! I think I speak for many women here when I say I long for "small-B's" though, reading your post, I realize how tough it must be to live where you do--sounds like women's bodies and the whole breast size issue is just crazy over there. I thought America was tough.

[loonydaray]

mynameislala,
i have to second vendetta over here, you sound downright sexy girl!
have you really talked about this with your boyfriend?
it seems to me that too many problems arise from the porn industry
i know some chicks are okay with their guys looking at porn but i can't imagine why
why should they ogle(sp?) other women? why do they feel the need to?
i would feel cheated on if whatever guy i'm with looks at porn. what's the difference between him grabbing a boob or jerking off to pictures/videos of boobs? he'd still be having sexual thoughts about other women
and idk, i just think sex is something meant for two people
idk exactly how to say what i mean O.o

[loonydaray]

haha i didn't even realize it was in a poem format
thanks everyone

[Vendetta]

I would kill to have wide hips, tiny waist and B-cups. You sound beautiful to me.
I also have thick thighs but no hips to speak of

[mynameislala]

Hi, I'm new. I've small breasts, like a small B cup. And it's been hard you know. I live in Chile, and even though we're from Latin America, men seem to be troglodytes! Supposedly in Latin America little attention is paid to breasts, and it's more about the butt... well it seems here it's about BOTH. I've never met a single man who prefers small breasts. All the "models" have big breasts, most are surgically enhanced, since most go to Argentina to get them done. Actually, most "models" (more like strippers, as their only talent is taking off their clothes on TV) are from Argentina. Men tend to salivate over these women, and I hate it. It's like it's all about size!

This woman was extremely popular a few years ago. She is from Argentina.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee302/s...0Salazar201.jpg
Guess the TWO reasons why she became famous... yes, implants.

This is the kind of women we are subjected to in our media. And men just salivate...

I hate it, it seems to me like men over here don't mind implants, as long as the breasts are big! Like small breasts are not to be lusted over.

My boyfriend is my soulmate. We share everything in common and just connect. He says he doesn't like humongous breasts like the ones pictured above. But still, he says, he prefers breasts a bit bigger than mine. He knows nothing about cup sizes, but from what I've gathered I'd say his preference is for C-D cups. He has a huge crush on Monica Bellucci.

Even though he always licks and plays with my small boobies, and he is always telling me how much he likes them, I feel inadequate. I know some of it stems from his "preference", but I also know would I be single right now, i'd feel the same from the over exposure to big breasts. The other day the big news was that a "silicone party" was held: girls went to a party and wrote their names on cards... enhanced models provided "entertainment" and at the end of the night, a card with a name on it would be picked and that girl would be the lucky winner of a free breast augmentation procedure! Just like that! And even girls as young as 17 or 18 participated... the "lucky" winner actually declared to the press "Well, I'll have them done... only if my parents are ok with it".

I hate all this emphasis on BIG. And I just wish my boyfriend prefered A-B cups. Yeah, I'm a small B cup, which isn't really small small! Sure, it's small compared to all the porn stars or "models" with freaking huge G cup implants... but whatever... at least their shapeis nice and their perky. Anyway, my boyfriend says that what he loves the most about my body are my thick thighs (huh? I also hate those), my wide hips and tiny waist. Sometimes he will watch porn and there are big breasted women, and he says he doesn't care, that he watches more for the act than the girls, but i feel insecure when that happens... lol, nothing ever pleases me. I've always had a rocky relationship with my body though, ever since I hit puberty.

Also, a question... can birth control pills actually make your breasts smaller? I started taking low dose birth control pills like ayear ago, and a couple of months later my boobs lost a bit of volume. I didn't go down any cup sizes, they just didn't fill the bras like they used to. I have a theory. I used to be a bit fatter, and have less body hair before I was taking the pill. I think I may have been overproducing estrogen before, because I had painless periods anyway and also because I developed huge hips and a tiny waist when I was very, very young. Honestly, my hips are huge compared to my waist, which I believe is distinctly feminine. I lost weight when I started taking the pill, and I think some of my body hair darkened... my periods are still painless though, that didn't change, thank God!

Ok girls. As you can see I'm very frustrated with this, and I'm not even that small. However, sometimes I wish I had smaller breasts. You see, there's this appeal to me about AA or A cups in a tight tank top. I can't pull off that look because my breasts don't have that much of a pleasing shape so it doesn't look as good as if they were smaller. Sure, I get so sad when I see some bigger breasted woman sporting cleavage, but girls with small AA or A cups braless in a tank top... well, they really can rock a tank top! And if you have nice legs in addition to the small breasts... well girl, you're sexy as hell! I don't know, it's like my breasts are not small enough to be sexy, nor are they big enough to be sexy... sigh...

Still, it's nice to know there is a support group for small breasted women.

[Vendetta]

How do you post pictures in here? You have to do the "URL" thing?

[neurotic.nelly]

ha! pick a dress that fits next time. there. problem fixed.