[mfc10]

I can't believe that this one probiotic can solve a problem I have tried for years to fix. Anyways...I know this won't work for everyone, but I strongly recommend giving it a try.

Amen, Sassy. I've taken at least one Fem-dophilus orally per day (and periodically use one vaginally, as the patent-holder for this probiotic affirms is fine to do) for about 4 years now. No more BV-yeast cycles! Amazing product!
maggie

[sassy]

Good morning, ladies! I have been a part of this forum since 2005 or 2006, but I haven't been very active in the past couple of years...just lurking. I have battled BV since I was 18 and I'm 25 now. I have tried everything...the antibiotics (all of them!), hydrogen peroxide, folic acid, internet scams, etc. The only thing that ever worked for me was making my own boric acid capsules...however, the results of that only last as long as I'm using the boric acid. I knew Fem-Dophilus had been recommended quite a bit, but it has dairy in it and being vegan, I didn't really want to take it. Well, I finally caved this weekend. I bought some from Whole Foods and took two pills Sunday night and two pills Monday morning. By Monday afternoon I was pretty amazed to discover that the smell and discharge of my BV was completely gone. I mean, it worked better and faster than when my doctor put me on meds. I can't believe it. I'm going to keep taking two a day for a month, and then decrease to one a day for as long as they make the product. I can't believe that this one probiotic can solve a problem I have tried for years to fix. Anyways...I know this won't work for everyone, but I strongly recommend giving it a try.

[melinda7]

Thanks, Melis.

Where is everyone getting the PH strips? Are they the same ones used to test urine?

[melis19750]

btw- there is some other board (not here) where some lady claims BV and step B are the same thing.

actually NOOOOO they are not

yes GBS over growth is an infection
but GBS overgrowth is a vaginal GBS infection NOT BV
it is called Group B Strep Vaginitis

I think people really need to get educated before they try and educate people, so be careful where you get your info!! Most people on this board know their stuff when it comes to BV! Thats why I prefer this board over other boards

see: http://www.obgyn.net/women/women.asp?page=...icles/gbs_part1

BV is Predominantly Gardnerella and/or Mobiluncus morphotypes. Few or absent Lactobacilli.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginosis

[melinda7]

Ugh, what an ordeal! Mine is musty too, now that the BV is gone. I am still on the flagyl pills, so no BV, but I still have that other odor, which I am so so SO fed up with at this point. You having the same, I am wondering if it's strep. I need to find out, but should finish my flagyl course, so the BV maybe stays away for good.


I tried fem-D, orally, and didn't notice any difference at all. Now I've run out, so I haven't been taking it for awhile. I am taking a liquid probiotic, but they don't help me much -- none of them do.

I hope I have strep because now I am afraid I have TMAU like S. She had the same odor, but if you don't have it, maybe i don't.

Good luck with your BV. I hope you get rid of it.


Was the pain a stabbing pain or a burning pain?

[melis19750]

thats the prob with MANY doctors now a-days they don't do what they always should...CULTURE IT

yes looking under the microscope helps
it can tell you if you have yeast budding or bacteria
if you have yeast- they can sometimes see it
and if you have "clue cells" that simply is a way of saying- yes there is some abnormal bacteria in there

normally what is common is BV
but there are a PLETHORA of bacteria that can cause imbalance/infections in the vagina- LOTS


and most doctors will also tell you group b strep over growth does NOT cause symptoms, however if you google it or look back on this board youll find plenty of females that GBS overgrowth bothers

I will be honest and tell you- Gardnerella (BV) has nothing on heavy GBS over growth- at least for me

this BV I have is not even that bothersome- a little smelly... a little itchy sometimes/ or just weird watery discharge but for the most part NOTHING

when I had HEAVY overgrowth of GBS I had PAIN- I cant describe it... i just know when I have it, and knock on wood i never get it again
I went through HELL having GBS overgrowth non-stop from sept 2002-Jan 2005

finally after finding this board, and hearing about FEM-DOPHILUS I tried it (Im not a doctor, so im not going to rec it vaginally) but i did use it vaginally and orally, and also a dose of 7 days on the clinda vaginal cream before FEM-D

after that- no symptoms, went back to the doctor for a follow up.... and my GBS was GONE and never returned (Im praying it stays away, which is one reason why Im back on FEM-D and trying to get rid of this BV)

the main symptoms I had with GBS was this weird thick white-ish discharge (similar to BV) and a musty smell... but NOT FISHY, the smell would come and go.... i cant explain it, and of course this weird vulvar pain..not too painful, but annoying enough it bothered me... not as bad a yeast infection symptoms but similar....

and i will say this BV is a pain because I dont like the feeling of being imbalanced...esp since I prob caused it with the garlic inserts being I was so paranoid about the yeast infection i had a few weeks ago

than wallah presto...my first BV infection ever


I was once misdiagnosed with BV- which is how I know about demanding for a culture
when I first had heavy GBS colonization and clue cells and a "weird smell: the doctor just swabbed me, looked under the micro scope and said- oh it's BV...
she failed to culture me..but i knew something wasnt right, so i went back a few days later and DEMANDED a few cultures done..one for yeast, one for bacteria, as well as an STD panel just to be safe...
so i used the metro gel as first directed and waited for my test results,
meanwhile waiting for culture results to come in-which at that time in 2002 took a week...things ended up worse, the GBS grew outta control because simply put the GBS was not happy metro gel was inside of my vagina

the culture results came back in- and the nurse called me frantically saying "STOP USING METRO GEL TODAY!"- YOU DON'T have BV, you have HEAVY OVERGROWTH OF GBS
and than they called me in some ampicillin...
that worked
but than the GBS overgrowth kept coming back
and more anti biotic after antibiotic

finally i was fed up
and of course kept getting re-cultured
nothing ever showed up abnormal other than GBS heavy colonization of it

so...def fem-dophilus (vaginally and orally) as well as right before using fem-D clinda cream for 7 nights worked wonders


another reason I think BV came on
was because when i was treating my yeast infection with garlic, I stopped using fem-dophilus.. BAD DECISION


hope this post helps
sorry its rambled
i just have a super long history of GBS colonization (not the normal amount)

and now i am dealing with the dreaded fishy BV- its such an inconvenience...but im glad its not GBS overgrowth
I

I don't think they did a thorough culture, because I believe that needs to be sent to the lab. they looked at mine under their microscope and saw clue cells. I am going to ask for a thorough culture next time.
What was your "weird" odor? I'm wondering if I have the same one.
PS - I think I used the same tea tree stuff -- yeast arrest?

[melinda7]

I don't think they did a thorough culture, because I believe that needs to be sent to the lab. they looked at mine under their microscope and saw clue cells. I am going to ask for a thorough culture next time.


What was your "weird" odor? I'm wondering if I have the same one.


PS - I think I used the same tea tree stuff -- yeast arrest?

did they do a thorough culture?
because when I had group b strep overgrowth i had "weird" odor and it was not gadernella
so it's not necessarily BV unless you test pos for the bacteria that causes BV

I would ask for a complete vaginal culture
making sure its not a dif bacterial infection

I even once had this weird infection (caused by tea tree oil suppositories) which I cant remember the name
it produced white chunks like yeast but it wasnt yeast/candida
it was bacterial

i was using tea tree ooil suppositories back than for the group b strep

thank gawd i no longer have GBS over growth

but ask what your test came back pos for

what worked to get rid of my GBS was 2 things- clindamyacin vaginal cream and Fem-Dophilus vaginally 1 time at night for 5 nights and Fem-D orally

after that GBS went away

I NEVER in my LIFE had BV until now
which I believe the garlic cloves I used to kill off a yeast infection (which did work for yeast) caused the imbalance in my vaginal flora-leaving me with Gardernella. (BV)

so when I had "clue cells" in the past, it was always always always GROUP B STREP overgrowth

and metro-gel and flygyl will NOT work for GBS
you need penicillin / or something of the sort lie clinda to use for that

make sure you know exactly what bacteria your treating
so that your not causing something worse to happen like candida overgrowth

[melis19750]

did they do a thorough culture?
because when I had group b strep overgrowth i had "weird" odor and it was not gadernella
so it's not necessarily BV unless you test pos for the bacteria that causes BV

I would ask for a complete vaginal culture
making sure its not a dif bacterial infection

I even once had this weird infection (caused by tea tree oil suppositories) which I cant remember the name
it produced white chunks like yeast but it wasnt yeast/candida
it was bacterial

i was using tea tree ooil suppositories back than for the group b strep

thank gawd i no longer have GBS over growth

but ask what your test came back pos for

what worked to get rid of my GBS was 2 things- clindamyacin vaginal cream and Fem-Dophilus vaginally 1 time at night for 5 nights and Fem-D orally

after that GBS went away

I NEVER in my LIFE had BV until now
which I believe the garlic cloves I used to kill off a yeast infection (which did work for yeast) caused the imbalance in my vaginal flora-leaving me with Gardernella. (BV)

so when I had "clue cells" in the past, it was always always always GROUP B STREP overgrowth

and metro-gel and flygyl will NOT work for GBS
you need penicillin / or something of the sort lie clinda to use for that

make sure you know exactly what bacteria your treating
so that your not causing something worse to happen like candida overgrowth

Well, I did have BV, because I had the odor, so they put me on flagyl, but a long course, since it's recurrent. It keeps coming back. So, I had a follow up appt. and they checked and I didn't have the BV, but had clue cells. I'm still taking the flagyl, I have to be on it 4x a week for 3 months. No fish, but I still have a musty smell, which I'm guessing is the clue cells. I never heard about the other infections until I came to this site. At my next appt., I am asking for a culture.

I know my flora got messed up since I was on antibiotics regularly since I was kid, so it's a long road for me to try and get it back to normal.
How did you get rid of the strep?

[melinda7]

just a side note about "clue-cells" if you do have clue cells it DOES NOT mean you have BV caused by gardnerella
whenever I had "clue cells" in the past- after they cultured me it always came back heavy group b strep (beta strep) overgrowth. NEVER BV

this is the first time I have ever had BV...

so just know any bacterial over growth can cause clue cells which are leukocytes- aka- white blood cells which means a sign of bacterial infection

Well, I did have BV, because I had the odor, so they put me on flagyl, but a long course, since it's recurrent. It keeps coming back. So, I had a follow up appt. and they checked and I didn't have the BV, but had clue cells. I'm still taking the flagyl, I have to be on it 4x a week for 3 months. No fish, but I still have a musty smell, which I'm guessing is the clue cells. I never heard about the other infections until I came to this site. At my next appt., I am asking for a culture.

I know my flora got messed up since I was on antibiotics regularly since I was kid, so it's a long road for me to try and get it back to normal.


How did you get rid of the strep?

[melis19750]

just a side note about "clue-cells" if you do have clue cells it DOES NOT mean you have BV caused by gardnerella
whenever I had "clue cells" in the past- after they cultured me it always came back heavy group b strep (beta strep) overgrowth. NEVER BV

this is the first time I have ever had BV...

so just know any bacterial over growth can cause clue cells which are leukocytes- aka- white blood cells which means a sign of bacterial infection

Sbaby

Do you know if you had clue cells when they tested you for BV? You said you didn't have BV, but had odor, but you found out you had that other disease. I'm wondering if you had the clue cells, because I do, but don't always have the BV. I'm just wondering if I have the thing you have.

[britt8705]

Hi Bunny,

Were you given something to treatment the specific bacterias? Are your "cured"?

for the past year i thought i had bv. i went to the doctor around 5 times to get a pap/swab. each time a regular family doctor did the test. this month, i went to europe and saw an extremely intelligent gyno. he did a test and it came up positive for chlamydia, mycoplasma and urealplasma. i had chlamydia and every single time it came up negative on the tests done here. the gyno told me that a family doctor is not skilled enough to do a proper swab because chlamydia lurks way back and you have to know where to swab for it. the idiot doctors here had no idea how to even do a proper test. in north america, they do not test for mycoplasma and urealplasma because they do not believe it needs to be treated. they are just lazy. isolating these bacteria is tough and you have to test the swabs twice, which is more time and money.

the reason your "bv" keeps coming back, is because you've never treated it properly. you have to do a dna probe to see what bacteria you have and then you have to drink antibiotics for THAT SPECIFIC bacteria. metro is just a general bacteria killer, but if you dont have general bacteria, and rather something more complex, well then metro is a waste of time.

i am extremely disappointed with the health system here in north america. for the doctors here to know so little information about a condition that is so common is really disturbing. you ladies probably don't even have "BV" ... DOES BV EVEN EXIST????? just an easy thing for doctors here to call it.

[britt8705]

** Opps I post this in the wrong place, I think I got it right now*

I have Googled and called Doctors offices for days looking for a Vulvovaginal Specialist in the Westchester, NY area. Come some please help? Do you know of a Vulvovaginal Specialist in Westchester County NY or NYC area.

Please help, I have been dealing with BV since I was 14 years old. (this is before I got my period and of course before I started having sex) I am now 23 years old. I have tried everyyything that a Gyno can subscribe in many different combinations. My doctor suggested that I look for a Vulvovaginal Specialist who may be able to help better but she didn’t know any herself: angry:

I am fed up just like most of you women. If you can please someone help me.

[melinda7]

Sbaby

Do you know if you had clue cells when they tested you for BV? You said you didn't have BV, but had odor, but you found out you had that other disease. I'm wondering if you had the clue cells, because I do, but don't always have the BV. I'm just wondering if I have the thing you have.

[melis19750]

so i just noticed fem-dophilus has dextrose in it which is a sugar
and I have been inserting these vaginally in the past...never had an issue with them
but wow...dextrose, thats not good.... I ordered ecovag instead because you can insert these vaginally and they dont have sugar/starches in them

guess ill just do Fem-D orally from now on and wait for my ecovag and balance activ

[melis19750]

Thank you so much for your response!

Yeah Im def wondering if the garlic made me more susceptible to BV, as I didnt have it before.

Im def taking fem-d...and waiting for the balance activ to arrive

I'm holding off on the metro gel for now..although I did pick up the metro gel as it was called in for me
but I want to see if the fem-d and balance activ do the trick first


or do you think i should use the metro gel and fem-d??
this is so confusing
I just want a normal pH in my vagina again

I dont wanna buy the pH strips because 1-they are expensive, and i dont wanna become OCD about testing my pH
Id rather just treat the overgrowth of Gardinela bacteria

but how to treat it...is really puzzling me

my menstrual cycle is about to start so my doctor told me to not use the metrogel until after my period is finished.

but i just don't want a damn yeast infection from the metro gel...
so im very hesitant to use it

________________________________________________

It's possible the garlic caused a slight imbalance leaving you open to develop bacterial vaginosis. Garlic does have antimicrobial properties. Here is a quote from this study done on the antimicrobial properties of garlic and common plant extracts that claim to have antimicrobial activity:
I would suggest that you try to not insert garlic vaginally since it doesn't work against all yeasts. Oddly enough, I tried it at one point and according to this study, it is effective against the yeast that I had, but after I stopped using it my symptoms came back. And the garlic burned at first and caused inflammation when I used it for too long even when I wrapped it in gauze. Boric acid was more effective in my case.

You want to be careful about vaginal odors. They have a knack for starting off not so bad and getting increasingly worse as the infection starts to set it . I suggest that you start taking the Fem-Dophilus again, especially if you want to prevent this infection from getting worse. I also suggest that you cut back on sugar or try avoiding it until this infection clears up. A diet high in sugar will hinder your immune function. I notice that cutting back on sugar helps me because whenever I do eat sugary stuff, it causes a white coating on my tongue. Apparently, it's not thrush. Just a coating. I'm still in the works of trying to figure out what that is all about. I've gotten it checked and my general practitioner says it's in relation to the fact that I have eczema and my body is just highly reactive to stimulants and certain foods. I still don't know exactly what she means by that. So I've been experimenting with anti-inflammatory things.

The vaginal flora is very sensitive. If you jump from one broad-spectrum anti-fungal to a broad spectrum anti-bacterial, you would be very lucky if nothing bad came of that. The vaginal flora needs time to recalibrate in-between treatments to prevent an infection from setting in. I hope you haven't been using antibiotics off and on for too long because that increases your chances of developing a resistant infection. Those really aren't any fun.

Try not to worry so much. Stress can actually makes your symptoms worse. I suggest that you check your pH to see if the medications your taking are helping at all, especially the BalanceActiv. You can buy pH strips off of the internet. I just purchase them at my campus store. You want it to range from 1-14.

Good luck!

[swt simplicity]

Hey ladies,
so I DID'nt have BV a couple of weeks ago- I had yeast (Blech!!) went to the OBGYN, got cultured, came back YEAST... so used diflucan, and garlic (fresh raw garlic) inserted in the vagina at the same time as using diflucan because it seemed diflucan wasnt helping much.
Great news yeast is gone- I still had some weird symptoms, and some light odor. went back to the OBGYN, she said everything looked/smelled ok but did another vaginal culture... came back pos for BV yes- thats right just BV- no yeast this time

my question
1) do you think the garlic suppository caused more of an imbalance?
2) They gave me an Rx for metrogel and a pill for diflucan to take after im done using the antibiotic gel... to ensure i dont get a yeast infection

I do take fem-dophilus
so Im not sure whats going on with my body- as I have not had a vaginal infection in 3 years since using and discovering Fem-D
But the thing is, I got sick of paying $30 monthly for the 60 day supply, so i simply stopped taking Fem-D for a month, and wham all this came about.
what do u think? how do i get back on balance?
Im afraid to use the metrogel because I don't want another yeast infection
to be honest, the yeast infection was WORSE than the BV
the BV is barely giving me symptoms, just a little itchy and a little smell...
but i def wanna get balanced

I also recently purchased the newer UK product Balance Activ. which has these ingredients: Lactic Acid Glycogen, Propylene Glycol, Methylhydroxypropyl Cellulose, Sodium Lactate, Water. pH 3.8
Being its not available in the USA- it was quite expensive to have it shipped here, so I only ordered 1, seven day treatment. I guess I can try that before resorting to the metrogel... Lord I hate antibiotics

any advice??

should i treat with metrogel and risk a Yeast infection?
or should I just try balance activ and stick with taking fem-d??

grr this is sooo frustrating.
but i am happy my yeast overgrowth is gone
but i dont understand how i got BV after the yeast cleared up???

this sucks!

________________________________________________

It's possible the garlic caused a slight imbalance leaving you open to develop bacterial vaginosis. Garlic does have antimicrobial properties. Here is a quote from this study done on the antimicrobial properties of garlic and common plant extracts that claim to have antimicrobial activity:

The antimicrobial activity of the eight plant extracts against the 34 microorganisms tested is shown in Table I. No antimicrobial activity was observed with any bacterial or fungal pathogen, for onion (Allium cepa), Yarrow leaf (Achillea millefolium), Meadow sweet leaf (Filipendula ulmaria), Confrey leaf (Symphytum officinale), Ragwort (Senecio jacobaea) or for Dandelion leaf and roots (Taraxacum officinale). Only the aqueous extract from cloves of garlic showed inhibition against nine bacterial isolates (range: 6–30mm zone of inhibition; mean = 19.5mm) and only the Candida parapsilosis isolate was inhibited by the garlic extract (30mm). There was complete microbial confluence at the site of inoculation of the negative control,(0.1% PS) and all organisms gave a clear zone of inhibition, ranging from 11–40mm diameter zone of inhibition, with a mean zone of inhibition of 23mm,when tested against the positive control (ciprofloxacin).

Our data has qualitatively shown that cloves of garlic had a limited antibacterial activity against 9/24 isolates tested and exhibited some antifungal properties against 1/10 fungal isolates examined. These data would suggest that traditional cures and remedies solely reliant on the antimicrobial properties of aqueous extracts of these plants would have little or no microbiocidal activity.
(click here for source)

I would suggest that you try to not insert garlic vaginally since it doesn't work against all yeasts. Oddly enough, I tried it at one point and according to this study, it is effective against the yeast that I had, but after I stopped using it my symptoms came back. And the garlic burned at first and caused inflammation when I used it for too long even when I wrapped it in gauze. Boric acid was more effective in my case.

You want to be careful about vaginal odors. They have a knack for starting off not so bad and getting increasingly worse as the infection starts to set it . I suggest that you start taking the Fem-Dophilus again, especially if you want to prevent this infection from getting worse. I also suggest that you cut back on sugar or try avoiding it until this infection clears up. A diet high in sugar will hinder your immune function. I notice that cutting back on sugar helps me because whenever I do eat sugary stuff, it causes a white coating on my tongue. Apparently, it's not thrush. Just a coating. I'm still in the works of trying to figure out what that is all about. I've gotten it checked and my general practitioner says it's in relation to the fact that I have eczema and my body is just highly reactive to stimulants and certain foods. I still don't know exactly what she means by that. So I've been experimenting with anti-inflammatory things.

The vaginal flora is very sensitive. If you jump from one broad-spectrum anti-fungal to a broad spectrum anti-bacterial, you would be very lucky if nothing bad came of that. The vaginal flora needs time to recalibrate in-between treatments to prevent an infection from setting in. I hope you haven't been using antibiotics off and on for too long because that increases your chances of developing a resistant infection. Those really aren't any fun.

Try not to worry so much. Stress can actually makes your symptoms worse. I suggest that you check your pH to see if the medications your taking are helping at all, especially the BalanceActiv. You can buy pH strips off of the internet. I just purchase them at my campus store. You want it to range from 1-14.

Good luck!

[melis19750]

When I thought I had BV, I found one of the best doctors for BV(he only deals with BV) his name is Dr. Nyirjesy from Philadelpha.

Maybe you might want to give his office a call and ask theese question, he is the best (yes I drove all the way to Phili and found out I didnt have BV)
http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/DrexelUniver...itisCenter.aspx

I live in California so going to Phili is not really an option =(
but... I am def Dx with BV. the test came back positive for gardinella (wp?)

[sbaby]

Hey ladies,
so I DID'nt have BV a couple of weeks ago- I had yeast (Blech!!) went to the OBGYN, got cultured, came back YEAST... so used diflucan, and garlic (fresh raw garlic) inserted in the vagina at the same time as using diflucan because it seemed diflucan wasnt helping much.
Great news yeast is gone- I still had some weird symptoms, and some light odor. went back to the OBGYN, she said everything looked/smelled ok but did another vaginal culture... came back pos for BV yes- thats right just BV- no yeast this time

my question
1) do you think the garlic suppository caused more of an imbalance?
2) They gave me an Rx for metrogel and a pill for diflucan to take after im done using the antibiotic gel... to ensure i dont get a yeast infection

I do take fem-dophilus
so Im not sure whats going on with my body- as I have not had a vaginal infection in 3 years since using and discovering Fem-D
But the thing is, I got sick of paying $30 monthly for the 60 day supply, so i simply stopped taking Fem-D for a month, and wham all this came about.
what do u think? how do i get back on balance?
Im afraid to use the metrogel because I don't want another yeast infection
to be honest, the yeast infection was WORSE than the BV
the BV is barely giving me symptoms, just a little itchy and a little smell...
but i def wanna get balanced

I also recently purchased the newer UK product Balance Activ. which has these ingredients: Lactic Acid Glycogen, Propylene Glycol, Methylhydroxypropyl Cellulose, Sodium Lactate, Water. pH 3.8
Being its not available in the USA- it was quite expensive to have it shipped here, so I only ordered 1, seven day treatment. I guess I can try that before resorting to the metrogel... Lord I hate antibiotics

any advice??

should i treat with metrogel and risk a Yeast infection?
or should I just try balance activ and stick with taking fem-d??

grr this is sooo frustrating.
but i am happy my yeast overgrowth is gone
but i dont understand how i got BV after the yeast cleared up???

this sucks!

When I thought I had BV, I found one of the best doctors for BV(he only deals with BV) his name is Dr. Nyirjesy from Philadelpha.

Maybe you might want to give his office a call and ask theese question, he is the best (yes I drove all the way to Phili and found out I didnt have BV)



http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/DrexelUniver...itisCenter.aspx

[melis19750]

Hey ladies,
so I DID'nt have BV a couple of weeks ago- I had yeast (Blech!!) went to the OBGYN, got cultured, came back YEAST... so used diflucan, and garlic (fresh raw garlic) inserted in the vagina at the same time as using diflucan because it seemed diflucan wasnt helping much.
Great news yeast is gone- I still had some weird symptoms, and some light odor. went back to the OBGYN, she said everything looked/smelled ok but did another vaginal culture... came back pos for BV yes- thats right just BV- no yeast this time

my question
1) do you think the garlic suppository caused more of an imbalance?
2) They gave me an Rx for metrogel and a pill for diflucan to take after im done using the antibiotic gel... to ensure i dont get a yeast infection

I do take fem-dophilus
so Im not sure whats going on with my body- as I have not had a vaginal infection in 3 years since using and discovering Fem-D
But the thing is, I got sick of paying $30 monthly for the 60 day supply, so i simply stopped taking Fem-D for a month, and wham all this came about.


what do u think? how do i get back on balance?
Im afraid to use the metrogel because I don't want another yeast infection
to be honest, the yeast infection was WORSE than the BV
the BV is barely giving me symptoms, just a little itchy and a little smell...
but i def wanna get balanced

I also recently purchased the newer UK product Balance Activ. which has these ingredients: Lactic Acid Glycogen, Propylene Glycol, Methylhydroxypropyl Cellulose, Sodium Lactate, Water. pH 3.8
Being its not available in the USA- it was quite expensive to have it shipped here, so I only ordered 1, seven day treatment. I guess I can try that before resorting to the metrogel... Lord I hate antibiotics

any advice??

should i treat with metrogel and risk a Yeast infection?
or should I just try balance activ and stick with taking fem-d??

grr this is sooo frustrating.
but i am happy my yeast overgrowth is gone
but i dont understand how i got BV after the yeast cleared up???

this sucks!

[sbaby]

I'm happy that you are finally diagnosed! It's a wonder doctors didn't notice anything unusual. I've been in the same boat of dealing with a vaginal odor and my gynecologist claiming that she can't smell anything. How high were your levels of trimethylamine? How do you control it?