[karategrrl]

I must say, my bf would totally jerk off over that girl's picture. As I've said, he loves the small cone-shaped ones...And on some spiritual level, I can only hope that we send some positive energy for small pointy boobies out into the universe when we do that.

OMG, that is SO wonderful on so many levels!

Thanks so much for sharing!! Ladies, every post, every thought shared here helps me so much in my self-boobie-love and just overall happiness/contentedness.

Sending more love to you, DeeRayy! I am so willing to bet you're totally "normal!" Hope my last post didn't sound like you should "wait for your breasts to change," b/c you're only one of MANY women with breasts of your shape (and just like strongirl's man loves!) and I bet they're just fine! There are so many shapes of breasts and bodies at any given time, and at any given time they could change for any reason. My wish is that we can all love our boobies, whatever they happen to be looking like at any given time--erect or relaxed, swollen or smaller, rounder or pointier. Something for everyone. Hell, M&Ms come in so many colors; give me the variety pack any day! That was the point I was trying to make, though I don't think I made it well!

<<Ommmmmmmm....DeeRayy luuuuuuuuuuve>>

[strongirl]

I totally share Karategrrl's reaction to that link that DeeRayy shared - those breasts don't look the slightest bit "deformed" to me and I wonder if that girl was mis-diagnosed. I admit to being slightly shocked that she would actually cut herself there...that's a new one on me, I've only heard of people cutting their arms and such. Good god, the suffering people go through for no good reason. I shake my head with sadness.

I was happy to read about her bf's appreciation of them and sense of humor helping her disarm her insecurities. As we've said in here before, it's what the woman herself feels that matters the most but gosh, it's great when those we love can help us love ourselves better.

I must say, my bf would totally jerk off over that girl's picture. As I've said, he loves the small cone-shaped ones. We just had a fun fantasy session around that in bed the other night. I do not have that shape but heck, I can't begrudge him his fantasies when he shares them so trustingly with me. And on some spiritual level, I can only hope that we send some positive energy for small pointy boobies out into the universe when we do that.

And the comments under the Huffpost article...many positive, appreciative comments for small, pointy ones! Ladies, this shape is not necessarily a negative! We've just gotten our perceptions so distorted by having zillions of images of fake half-coconuts shoved in our faces for years.

[karategrrl]

DeeRayy, very interesting article you shared, too, though I have to say I was surprised to hear the author say she had a "deformity." I guess if her doctor says it's an official "condition," I suppose it is, but honestly my first reaction was not "oh, look at that deformity," it was more like, "oh, booblets, cutely/perky pointy." I feel REALLY bad about the self-mutilation this girl did around her left areola.

DeeRayy, if your doc is one you trust and feel comfy with, yes, do discuss this--maybe it will put your mind at ease? Also, forgive me, but I forgot your age, but I believe you're still in your teens? Remember that your breasts will change a lot through your life, especially if you have children. And I don't mean, "wait and your breasts will grow;" just remember that your booblets have a lot more years with you yet and may change a bit in shape/structure/size, as we all do in so many ways. I feel that not only are we putting pressure on ourselves to be over a certain size, but to be a certain shape, too. Aren't we saddled with enough physical "requirements" to meet?

So sorry you feel so bad!!!!! <<<<<HUGS!!!>>>>> Report back, and feel free to vent here ANYTIME!!!!!

[karategrrl]

That Huffington post article was GREAT, strongirl!! TY so much for sharing! (Ironic, though, that its accompanying avatar-ish photo on the right siderail of the web page showed the cleavage of an obvously augmented woman. Bubbles/bolt-ons/half-melons. Blegh.

My fave quote from the article:
"Over the next 10 years, as I graduated from high school and college, I also graduated from a kitchen accessory to a solid A..."

My fave readers' comments:
-"Enjoy your little boobs! I am often envious of girls with less. They look so light and dainty, or athletic, or just neater."Light? Dainty? Athletic? Neat? I'll take that!!

-"My mom took me to the doctor as a teenager to see why I wasn't "developin­g" He said it was just the way I was.But the good thing was he told her more harm would be done to me by her making a big deal about my small chest than me having a small chest."Holy Christ, a smart man!!!

[DeeRayy]

hey guys

great article, strongirl. i noticed while reading it that she mentioned how her boobs had more point to them without a bra. which brings me to my question. i recently read this article by a girl with tuberous breasts.

http://stophatingyourbody.tumblr.com/post/...n-to-shyb-and-i

i'm starting to worry that since i'm naturally pointy that i have a mild form of tuberous breasts. my frame is smaller than hers but as much as i hate to admit it, my breasts look similar to hers from those angles- widely spaced and pointy. do you guys know of this condition? is there a difference between tuberous breasts and pointy breasts, or are the terms interchangeable? it's bothering me so much that i'm going to ask my doctor to look at my breasts the next time i see her.

i don't know how much longer i can take feeling liike this. i've become sooo distraught with the shape and size of my breasts that it's affecting me constantly. i just don't feel normal. i wouldn't even mind having small breasts if they weren't shaped the way they are now.

[strongirl]

How timely that I came across this article today:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hallie-seega...s_b_901832.html

The comments are not to be missed. Many many posts from men saying how much they love small breasts or how breast size doesn't matter, it's the whole woman who matters. Many posts from smallies who go braless as their norm and love it. Many posts from big-breasted women who wish they could braless but it's either painful or just not a good look on them.

I loved reading about your top-free yard work, Karategrrl! That's so awesome!

[KeraBear]

Then I'm a dinosaur too, b/c I remember that also!!! Actually, I remember my 1st BF in 7th grade saying he wanted me to go braless. That was when I was fully realizing that I was out-boobed by all of my school counterparts, and HELL NO I was not going to do that. Today I do, occasionally.

Actually, I was thinking about all of you ladies over the weekend. I was doing quite a bit of yard and pool work at my house and opted to just wear a bikini to stay cooler and get some color. Yesterday I got annoyed with the bikini top and yanked it off and felt quite natural walking around our (secluded) backyard, working with just bikini bottoms, sneaks and work gloves. I felt like when I was a kid and would just run around carefree without a top. It was quite fun!

Oh nooooo, going sans bra was unthinkable for me too. ESSPECIALLY in jr high much for the same reasons you mentioned. My ex loved it when i went braless though. But i would never do it in public places.

And yay for you! Strongirl would be proud of your boobies' liberation!

[karategrrl]

And I was a bit taken aback by one of the comments that said something like "I've heard that in the 1960's and 1970's, it was the fashion to go braless and I wish that was still an option." Jeesus peesus, I'm old! LOL

Then I'm a dinosaur too, b/c I remember that also!!! Actually, I remember my 1st BF in 7th grade saying he wanted me to go braless. That was when I was fully realizing that I was out-boobed by all of my school counterparts, and HELL NO I was not going to do that. Today I do, occasionally.

Actually, I was thinking about all of you ladies over the weekend. I was doing quite a bit of yard and pool work at my house and opted to just wear a bikini to stay cooler and get some color. Yesterday I got annoyed with the bikini top and yanked it off and felt quite natural walking around our (secluded) backyard, working with just bikini bottoms, sneaks and work gloves. I felt like when I was a kid and would just run around carefree without a top. It was quite fun!

[strongirl]

OMG, what a fascinating post, Anne_Ecdote! I knew some of it but there was much that was new to me and the presentation was supremely amusing, as were the comments below. Thanks for sharing!

I recall from Art History class that fully exposed breasts were the fashion and that a woman's breasts were considered part of her face. The portraits I've seen from that time were all of young, small-breasted women (with good posture!).

I like stuff like this because it demonstrates how subjective and changeable it all is.

And I was a bit taken aback by one of the comments that said something like "I've heard that in the 1960's and 1970's, it was the fashion to go braless and I wish that was still an option." Jeesus peesus, I'm old! LOL

[karategrrl]

Breasts that hang loose, and are of an extraordinary largeness, lose their charms, and have their Beauty buried in the grave of uncomeliness, whilst those that are small, plump and round, like two ivory globes, or little worlds of beauty, whereon Love has founded his Empire, command an awful homage from his vassals, captivate the wondering gazer's eyes, and dart warm desires into his Soul, that make him languish and melt before the soft Temptation.

Wow, even with our plastic surgery-crazy societies of today, I think I'm happier living now than I would have been then! I like the admiration for little ones, but it sounds a little condescending to the bigguns. this just made me laugh: "Breasts that hang flagging out of all comely shape and form..."

[Anne_Ecdote]

Breasts that hang loose, and are of an extraordinary largeness, lose their charms, and have their Beauty buried in the grave of uncomeliness, whilst those that are small, plump and round, like two ivory globes, or little worlds of beauty, whereon Love has founded his Empire, command an awful homage from his vassals, captivate the wondering gazer's eyes, and dart warm desires into his Soul, that make him languish and melt before the soft Temptation.

[KeraBear]

I try to tell myself "You'll never be perfect...so just settle for fabulous!"

Yes, I love this too!!!!!

Oh so much good stuff on here lately, ladies!!! I'm just soaking it up!

Strongirl - interesting thoughs on small breastedness and perfectionism... you just might be onto something there.

Dee - it's a shame that your mom just can't seem to emphathize with you on this. Without walking around in our shoes (bra?) for a day, some people just will never understand. But you know what? Maybe you should see her comments about implants - no matter how off base they are - as a sign of caring. Perhaps she just wants to see you stop hurting.

And yeah, karategrrl, perfect illustration with your three comments in one day. It just goes to show just how subjective "beauty" truly is. And it goes to show how we can't always depend on others to define us. Fo sho!

[karategrrl]

When it comes to people's preferences, the only absolute is variation.

Amen!!!!

"You'll never be perfect...so just settle for fabulous!"

Love it! Works for me!

[buttercups]

Wow strongirl, I think you really summed it up with this:

"we're not just small-breasted, we're small-breasted, intelligent, and perfectionistic. And it's that combination that makes us tend to be unhappy about our breasts, or at least question the role they play in our lives and in society. If we were less perfectionistic, maybe we wouldn't get so hung up on all this. I think I was in my mid-twenties when I had the realization "Perfectionism can be a mental health problem"'

DeeRayy I am exactly the same, and strongirl totally hit the nail on the head (or the breast) with this one! I am completely a perfectionist about grades, just about everything. It took me awhile to realize how much damn pressure I put on myself all the time. I put so much pressure on myself to always get straight A's, then once you do, you have to keep putting the pressure on so you can maintain that- which can be just impossible to keep up. I put the same pressure on my body to be perfect too, like it sounds like many of us here do. I work out like crazy, never skip a day, don't let myself eat this and that, and if I do- well then I tear myself up over it completely. It is 100% a mental health problem, and we do have to realize that, like strongirl pointed out again, we are never going to be perfect, but in someone's eyes we will look good. Time for both of us to lay off the pressure, or rather all of us in here!

Karategrrl- that is crazy! My first thought was (after reading the one that was a compliment) that god people can be so rude!! I don't point out anyone's physical appearance unless to give them an honest and sincere compliment. I would NEVER say to someone " oh you were at your best months ago" - implying that you're not now- that is so rude!! It made me angry for you, but at the same time I do really appreciate your point that in the same day not only did people tell you that you look fantastic (which you do!) but also that you were too this or not enough that. It does just go to show that we shouldn't put so much weight on the things that people say, and we can't please everyone. Thanks for sharing that though, it does put things into perspective for me alot.

[strongirl]

Hey lovely small busties, I've been computer-less for a spell, thus the non-posting. Wow, lots of good stuff to catch up on!

Gotta get to work but a couple of quick comments.

DeeRayy, I was so glad that something I said - the comment about not letting your insecurities become bigger than the attraction between you - resonated and made a positive difference for you. That made me feel really good and I am so glad it's helped.

On the thyroid - I also am hypothyroid, diagnosed several years ago, and managed to royally f. up my medication earlier this year, which had a hugely negative impact on my health. I'm just now coming out of it. I know quite well what it's like to feel let down or betrayed by my body. But I try to flip that around - that my body is telling me what it needs and it's up to me to listen. Let me also point out that thyroid affects all hormones, and hormones affect emotions and mood. When your thyroid is off, your perceptions and reactions to things are altered, and not in a good way. For myself, I try to be aware of and respect my feelings all the time but not necessarily act on them - or even believe them! - when I know I'm under the influence of hormonal imbalance, thyroid, menopausal, or otherwise.

Karategrrl, re. the 3 different people's reactions in a single day - what a great example of how crazy it can make us when we buy into other people's assessments of our appearance. When it comes to people's preferences, the only absolute is variation. The good news about that is that everybody looks good to somebody! The bad news is there really is no such thing as "perfection" when it comes to appearance, so we can never say "Yes! Now I'm perfect! I'm satisfied!". Which leads me to...

DeeRayy, your "straight A" perfectionism makes me wonder if there's a commonality in many of us who post here - we're not just small-breasted, we're small-breasted, intelligent, and perfectionistic. And it's that combination that makes us tend to be unhappy about our breasts, or at least question the role they play in our lives and in society. If we were less perfectionistic, maybe we wouldn't get so hung up on all this. I think I was in my mid-twenties when I had the realization "Perfectionism can be a mental health problem". Since then, I try not to let myself get too far down the path of torturing myself when things aren't perfect. I try to tell myself "You'll never be perfect...so just settle for fabulous!"

Ha, so much for "quick comments".

[karategrrl]

I had to share something weird with you all.

Yesterday, I had THREE comments about my appearance from strangers or people I hardly know:

1. In my office cafeteria: One of the female workers there was complimenting me non-stop: "I love your skirt!" "Have you lost weght? You look fantastic"

2. Not even 5 minutes later: 2 male strangers in the hallway, checking me out. One said to the other: "She's too skinny."

3. Early evening, at the gym: male acquaintance said I "was" at my best 2 months ago: "You were lean and shredded then," i.e., I'm not now.


Just goes to show you cannot go too much by what either people think of your appearance, or you will drive yourself nuts.

[DeeRayy]

I thought with the way lots of kids are turning out these days any parent would be proud of their hard-working, productive child of any age and not refer to them as a "monster".

just to clarify, she wasn't actually referring to me as a "monster", she was saying that I myself act like I look so horrible with the way I get so upset and depressed about my appearance. thus the whole "you act like you're a monster" comment, meaning she thinks I exaggerate my flaws.

and i think she only mentions the implants out of frustration because she hates to see me upset and crying and she thinks that it would end all of these issues i'm having. like i've mentioned earlier, my family is not very anti-plastic. they don't see anything wrong with plastic surgery of any kind. they go by that "if you don't like something, change it" motto, which is fine for them. but it doesn't align with the way i see things.

[Allison-Shine]

thank you so much buttercups for the response. it helps to hear from someone else who knows what it's like to struggle on such a deep level. i'm just really looking forward to moving out in september so that i can have some time on my own. i tried to talk to my mother last night about how i was feeling and she just went off on me, saying how i need to stop it already and how i'm so over dramatic ( "you act like you're a monster or something!" is the way she put it). that definitely made me feel kind of guilty but i understand why she gets so frustrated with me. the only thing i really get upset about with her is that she keeps pushing the idea of implants on me. she makes me question my own reasons for not wanting them. i feel enough pressure to get the surgery as it is, i don't need any more from her.

it's definitely frustrating because as a woman i always feel sooooo much pressure to look and be a certain way, and it really gets to me since so much value is put on a woman's appearance. i admit i do care too much about what other people think and that affects my well being. it's like i have this immense fear of being judged, or not measuring up to everyone's expectations of me. i've always been like that. i remember the first time i got a B on an assignment in grade school i damn near had a nervous breakdown because i was no longer a straight A student. i guess i just put too much pressure on myself to be perfect, and since my body (especially my boobs) is something that i can't control i get particularly upset with it.

I left home at 18 for college and despite that I had to work along with going to school to cover living expenses, it was worth every penny to get that "time on my own". Money well spent ! Note: I got along great with my family but really needed my space for very personal reasons that are sometimes hard to explain.

Regarding breast implants, I can expect comments from certain men (and women) but not from one's own mother. For God's sake, now we have to hear it from our own mothers regarding body issues and appearance. Thankfully my Mom was not like that, even when seeing me next to my taller, more voluptuous D-cupped 18 year old sister, that idea would never come out of her mouth. The good person that you are and your accomplishments should outweigh the issues you have (and your reactions to them) in the eyes of others if I am making a shred of sense.

I thought with the way lots of kids are turning out these days any parent would be proud of their hard-working, productive child of any age and not refer to them as a "monster".

Actually I am a total peace with myself being a B-student in high school and college And getting to be at better peace with being a barely B-cup. Maybe B is my destiny, lmao. I know, some in here probably think I have big hooters comparitvely speaking. Then by all means do tell me that, my ego can use some stroking now and then.

[DeeRayy]

thank you so much buttercups for the response. it helps to hear from someone else who knows what it's like to struggle on such a deep level. i'm just really looking forward to moving out in september so that i can have some time on my own. i tried to talk to my mother last night about how i was feeling and she just went off on me, saying how i need to stop it already and how i'm so over dramatic ( "you act like you're a monster or something!" is the way she put it). that definitely made me feel kind of guilty but i understand why she gets so frustrated with me. the only thing i really get upset about with her is that she keeps pushing the idea of implants on me. she makes me question my own reasons for not wanting them. i feel enough pressure to get the surgery as it is, i don't need any more from her.

it's definitely frustrating because as a woman i always feel sooooo much pressure to look and be a certain way, and it really gets to me since so much value is put on a woman's appearance. i admit i do care too much about what other people think and that affects my well being. it's like i have this immense fear of being judged, or not measuring up to everyone's expectations of me. i've always been like that. i remember the first time i got a B on an assignment in grade school i damn near had a nervous breakdown because i was no longer a straight A student. i guess i just put too much pressure on myself to be perfect, and since my body (especially my boobs) is something that i can't control i get particularly upset with it.

[karategrrl]

You ladies are too freaking funny about the boob par-tay, especially Skindeep's bringing her mustache. LOL!!!!!!!


DeeRayy:
I’m really sorry you’re feeling down about the bod right now. I wish I had something magical to say that would totally change everything for you, but alas, I don't, except maybe to be kind and gentle with yourself. Do whatever it takes to feel better, in ways both big and small. And maybe stay away from the mirror a bit too right now?

"what's the difference between a mammogram and a regular breast exam?"
A "regular" exam is the dr. feeling your breasts manually. We should all be doing breast self-exams monthly, preferably in the shower, with soapy/slippery hands. I am guilty of not doing this enough; here are instructions. At your appointment with your doctor, he or she will also manually check your booblets.

A mammogram is an x-ray of the breast tissue, where they put your boobies between two flat plastic panels and take 2 images: one straight down, one from the side.

All 3 types of exams are important:
1. Self-exams help you to become familiar with the way your breasts feel and are your 1st line of defense against anything wrong; if you notice anything unusual, you bring it to your doctor.
2. Doctor manual exams are for a professional opinion; while YOU are the authority on how your own breasts feel, THEY are the authority on how they feel compared to the hundreds of others they feel. Every breast has little bumps, etc. but doctors are well-versed in how abnormalities/tumors feel, and may direct you to further testing if they have any concerns.
3. Mammograms can detect abnormalities too small for human touch.

Forgive me—I work in health care marketing and education! I am passioante about self-care and health.