[jewelscando]

Hey, question. Has anyone developed a rash from the Boric? I developed a really bad rash on my forehead, and a small rash on my arms. I went to a skin specialists, and she said I was having an alergic reaction to something. She instructed me to test my different hair products, lotions etc. She also gave me a prescription of Cortizone and said use this for 10 days and it will be gone. Well, here I am on day 11, and the rash is no where near gone, and 10 times worse on my arms. I've limited my usage on Boric, I've only used it 2 times in the last 10 days. So, I'm still not sure if it's from that. Anyways, anybody??

[jewelscando]

I get the Boric on my hand all the time, I just wash it off quickly. Some people suggest using a piece of paper, buy pooring it on the paper, then folding it and allowing it to slide into the capsule. I just put some in the cap and scoop it. It's never bothered my fingers, but I wash my hand immediatley, then again after I insert it.

Neverending. Yeah, I agree with you. I'm going on 40, had a partial hysterectomy, starting to get the heat flashes, and fish in the kitty. Sounds like old age if you ask me!! just kidding all you young girls!! Anyways, I would ask the Doctor for blood work. I mean really, why go on something, if you don't really need it.

[neverending]

Sorry to keep posting but I found some more info that some of us might be able to use.You know me; always researching! As much time as I spend on this you would think I would find the cure to our problems!

Reduced estrogen levels are the main cause of vaginal dryness. Estrogen, a female hormone, helps keep vaginal tissue healthy by maintaining a normal vaginal acidity level. Acidity creates a natural defense against vaginal and urinary tract infections. But when your estrogen levels decrease, so does this natural defense and the amount of vaginal lubrication. Decreased estrogen amounts can lead to a thinner, less elastic and more fragile vaginal lining.
http://www.minniepauz.com/menopause-symptom-dry-vagina.html

[neverending]

jewelscando:I am almost certain this is my problem but how do I talk to the doctor about this.Do I just ask for the Hormones or should I ask for the blood tests then have him prescribe the meds?Most Doctors prescribe meds without blood tests but I was wondering if that is safe because estrogen can be dangerous if given too much.If this does not work I give up.Oh, Take a look at this and tell me what you think! I found this on a research website.

Changes in the vagina occur in response to a woman's hormonal cycle. Estrogen causes the vagina to thicken, then blood vessels bring nutrients and oxygen to the vagina. These maintain vaginal flexibility and health.

Estrogen and pregnancy
The pregnant woman at term produces more estrogen in one day, than a nonpregnant woman produces in 3 years! Estrogen is responsible for enormous changes during pregnancy. During pregnancy, there is a large increase in the amount of estriol in relationship to estrone and estradiol. Increased levels of estrogen that occur during pregnancy may be associated with improvement in psoriasis.

[Eralc Alegna]

let us know how it works. I read through some of the FAQ and such and it sound pretty legit, they've done their homework...

Anyone got any advice on filling my own boric acid capsules? I picked some up yesterday and it was a disaster. I can't get it on my bare skin, right?

[pympmama1]

I have been using yeast arrest by vitanica for about 8 days and the smell was gone after the first day. There is no smell at all.... I am hoping this is the answer to my prayers.
http://www.rockwellnutrition.com/product.a...8&catid=139

[Eralc Alegna]

so we need more estrogen? :S
I think what neverending means eralc, is generally before the menopause like anytime before it, not the direct time before... or am i wrong? if i am im 17! (Ive had this problem for at least 2 years now!) and i can assure u its totally unsex related!

She was referring to declining estrogen levels. That is the cause of menopause. It would be unusual for someone as young as we are to have this happen. Imbalances, sure but I think the point of the article was to point out signs and inconveinences of meopause beginning. I wasn't sure whether or not menopause might be a concern for anyone on the board even though it's not a concern of mine.
And trust me, I know that it's not caused by sex, but we all know it's aggrivated by it. I'm no novice, I've had my bouts when celebate too.


Thanks mfc10! I'll try picking up the acidophilus somewhere and mixing that in. I'm starting the boric acid tonight, hope I'm as successful as you were

[mfc10]

And a P.S., since all of you are still discussing remedies and actively researching this, have any of you had long term results with the boric acid (seemingly most popular) or something else? Or is it just an effective means untill it inevitably rears it's nasty head again? I'd at least like a month or two between rotten stages...

Hi--new to this forum...I am perimenopausal, and started having recurring bouts of BV, then yeast from the Metrogel I was prescribed to get rid of he BV, then the cycle continued over about 6 months. Nothing helped until my gyno agreed that I should try boric acid capsules vaginally. He wrote me a prescription for them, which a local COMPOUNDING pharmacy filled: They combine 300 mg. boric acid powder with an equal amount of acidophilus powder & put it in capsules. (The standard used in the US is 600-mg. of boric acid per capsule, but in Europe, they use only half as much with great results.) The theory behind using the acidophilus powder is that boric acid can kill off some of the good lactobacilli in the vagina; this helps to replace it. (One could also purchase vaginal acidophilus capsules online to use a day or two after using tyhe boric acid vaginally, or buy powdered acidophilus at a health food store & add it to homemade boric acid capsules.)

At any rate, I was able to taper down to using one at night once every week, then once every 10 days, then once every 14 days, then not at all. No BV or yeast infections since December '05 (it's nearly October '06 now, so 10 months!) When I do get a period or have spotting, I stick a blob of SYLK vaginal lubricant inside to help keep the pH inhospitable to bacteria & yeast (available online--it has a pH of 4.7, not bad considering most lubricants are about 5.5-6---SYLK is closer to the natural acidity of the vagina.) Sometimes I use a piece of a tea tree oil suppository (available online or in some health food stores) if I think anything is brewing down there. So far so good.

However--I might be a special case, since I haven't had intercourse in ages, due to vulvodynia I ended up with as a result of an inflammatory reaction to the Metrogel & to the azole-type yeast creams!

At any rate, several of the gyns in my doctor's practice laud the value of boric acid.
All the best,
maggie

[jewelscando]

Neverending. I've been wondering the same thing for months, but nobody ever seemed to reply. I had a Hysterectomy about 5yrs ago or so, and this is when my problem started. I didn't have a full Hysterectomy, which means I still have my ovaries. I'm thinking, mine has something to do with that as well.

[neverending]

Found something else:
Birth control pills also raise the pH of the vagina so that it is inhospitable to sperm.

Vaginal pH. The normal vaginal pH is 3.8 to 4.5. Bacterial vaginosis often causes the vaginal pH to be greater than 4.5.

[neverending]

I'm not saying anyone is going through menopause but I was thinking that this may be due to some kind of hormonal imbalance or something of that nature.I suspect my problem is due to hormones because I never had any problems whatsoever until I started /stopped birth control.Before I had my miscarriage in July,I did not have any symptoms of BV for a couple of months.After the miscarriage the BV came back.What changed during pregnancy?Hormones right?

Oh, I have an Doctors appointment next week and I'm going to let him know that I want him to check my hormones.I don't mind being the guinea pig if it's going to make this stop! I will let you ladies know what happens.

[Emma22]

so we need more estrogen? :S
I think what neverending means eralc, is generally before the menopause like anytime before it, not the direct time before... or am i wrong? if i am im 17! (Ive had this problem for at least 2 years now!) and i can assure u its totally unsex related!

[Eralc Alegna]

I sure as hell hope not!

At 22 I'm nowhere near menopause and I think would be a freak of nature if my estrogen was declining.
Then again at 22 you'd think I'd be able to sustain an active, happy and uninterrupted sex life now wouldn't you?

[neverending]

Could this be our problem.Very interesting!

Before menopause, the tissues lining your vagina remain thick and moist in the presence of estrogen. That’s because estrogen helps maintain blood flow to vaginal tissue, keeps vaginal walls supple and elastic, promotes production of natural lubricants, and helps protect against bacterial infections. As estrogen levels decline, the outer genital areas can become dry, itchy, and irritated. In the vagina, harmful bacteria, which would not normally be able to flourish, may grow. Bacteria from the vagina may also reach the urethra and cause bladder infections. Even if you are taking oral hormones, they may not produce levels adequate to treat vaginal atrophy.
ANY THOUGHTS?

[Eralc Alegna]

Bless You neverending... Anyone else care to weigh in??

And a P.S., since all of you are still discussing remedies and actively researching this, have any of you had long term results with the boric acid (seemingly most popular) or something else? Or is it just an effective means untill it inevitably rears it's nasty head again? I'd at least like a month or two between rotten stages...

[neverending]

What pharmacies have you picked up the capsules/acid at?
You can go to any herbal /health food store and find the empty veg. capsules.I buy my Boric Acid from Wal-mart.

Do I ask at the perscription counter or are they on the shelves?
Depends on where you live.I get the Boric acid off the shelf at my local Wal-mart.

How much acid do I use and how often?
I use 1 cap during the day and at night I only use half a capsule

What sized capsules do I need?
I use the regular size capsule.Some ladies here use the 00 size.
Welcome to the board!

[Eralc Alegna]

Hello All-

New to the forum because I too have suffered for too damn long with chronic BV. I'm interested in the boric acid treatments as I have never tried them and my regimine of vitamin C tablets and hydrogen peroxide douching hasn't seemed to help in the month or so I've been trying it.

What pharmacies have you picked up the capsules/acid at?
Do I ask at the perscription counter or are they on the shelves?
How much acid do I use and how often?
What sized capsules do I need?

I'm sure most of this has been covered in previous posts but forgive my laziness and un-willingness to sift through 27 some odd pages of horror stories.

Any replies are MUCH appreciated by myself and I'm sure my long neglected boyfriend...
THANKS!

[summerbabe]

Thanks guys, I went to the doctor today and she did some swabs, but said everything looked perfectly fine. I'm just waiting for test results, doc doesn't think it's a yeast infection but i'm sort of hoping it is cause that's easy to take care of!

[jewelscando]

Ok... So I told you all the fish smell was gone. And here's the newest scoop. This may seem a bit graphic, and I apologize ahead of time, in case someone is offended, however, I feel it's really important to state all the facts, just to determine if anyone else has experienced the same. So... I went to my boyfriends today, (Couldn't wait until this weekend), and everything started fine. I started out on top, and there was no smell what so ever. After about 10 minutes, My boyfriend rolled me over and got on top of me. At the first thrust, it was like he had gone in pretty deep and I felt almost like a popping feeling, way deep inside. THEN... all of a sudden, a HUGE horrible smell of raw dead fish was all around us. I had had no smell at all, up until that almost popping sounding noise. Therefore, I'm back on the idea (Sorry Sassy) that this problem is way "Deeper" then what the boric is able to clear up. I had made the decision not to go back on antibiotics, but, I'm not sure now that I have much of a choice. The smell was really bad. Almost like it was just waiting to "Explode". Probably the worst I've had to date. Anyways, any thoughts?

[Cashmeregirl]

Yes, Summer- if it's your first yeast/ infection def. go to the Dr. like Sassy says. You def. want to make sure. Good Luck!