[arj75]

[quote name='cinderflower' date='Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM' post='156091']
. . . and well, I'm confused as hell, because it said that soy can be bad because it has a property in it that "poses itself as estrogen and links with what estrogen should"??? I'm gonna check into that a little more. I just thought I would mention it because I think some of us drink soy milk and eat soy......

just to simplify it for you: soy has estrogen in it basically. plant estrogen. i don't eat any meat so i use seitan and soy protein powder--protein but no fat. just remember not to od on the soy because too much estrogen isn't good for anyone. i get about 24 grams of protein a day from soy and that agrees with me but if you're concerned, ask your doctor.

Thanks Cinderflower, you take supplements? I read an article that a doctor had written, basically saying stear clear of supplements from soy, that it can be dangerous. I'm sorry, I do not remember the link, I will try and track it down for you.

Do you think that your bv is caused from hormonal issues or not? Does yours come back every month or how often?

Are you a lacto-vegan or total vegan?

[lori]

Does everyone already know hat tindamax was approved by the fda (may 24, 2007?) for treatment of bv. This is not a new drug, it is already prescribed for other aliments. I only read the one article, according the studies success rate...I'm not sure why they "approved" it. But at least it is another option.....

Thanks for this info. arj75! This is definitely useful news for everyone:

FDA Approves Tindamax® For Bacterial Vaginosis

[cinderflower]

. . . and well, I'm confused as hell, because it said that soy can be bad because it has a property in it that "poses itself as estrogen and links with what estrogen should"??? I'm gonna check into that a little more. I just thought I would mention it because I think some of us drink soy milk and eat soy......

just to simplify it for you: soy has estrogen in it basically. plant estrogen. i don't eat any meat so i use seitan and soy protein powder--protein but no fat. just remember not to od on the soy because too much estrogen isn't good for anyone. i get about 24 grams of protein a day from soy and that agrees with me but if you're concerned, ask your doctor.

e.coli is very common because it's in everyone's digestive tract, you just don't want it in your vagina or urinary tract. the old caveats really are the best: cotton crotch panties, be careful to air yourself out if you wear tight-fitting nylon clothing, wipe front to back, pee right before you have sex if possible, and be extremely clean if you have anal sex (i.e. never insert anything from anus to vagina without washing it first or at least changing the condom). cranberry juice or pills work wonders for uti's, plain active culture yogurt really does work when you apply it vaginally (it's not just for breakfast anymore), and it's the anaerobic (growing without oxygen) bacteria that's evil.

[arj75]

Does everyone already know hat tindamax was approved by the fda (may 24, 2007?) for treatment of bv. This is not a new drug, it is already prescribed for other aliments. I only read the one article, according the studies success rate...I'm not sure why they "approved" it. But at least it is another option.....

[anitsirhc]

ok well i've been using the yeast arrest for 2 weeks now, i thought i was doing fine but yesterday and today i feel like i kind of smell a little bv smell. but it's not the same bv smell i've always had, just kind of a little tiny bit sour smell. but i'm getting my period this week (it's my week off from my bc pills.) so maybe that has something to do with it. i've been taking the fem dophilus with it.

bvgirl, did the yeast arrest have a smell to it at all when you used it?

well anyway i'm going to be using the yeast arrest for 2 more weeks and hope it stays away. i've had sex a few times so maybe that's not a good idea to do that while on the yeast arrest and that's why i smell a little? it's not like oh my god i stink smell, i just smell the discharge sometimes and i've noticed it smells a little bit. so i'll slow down the sex part a little too.

i've been trying to keep up with all your talk about strep b and a and stuff like that but it's too confusing for me to understand! i tried doing a little research on it myself and i didn't get much out of it.

[Morphia]

Hey everyone,

I was hoping to share my culture results with you all but.... I'm still waiting for them them to return my phone call.

You may have to call them. I, personally, can't wait to see what it comes back with. I didn't expect e. coli in my culture, but of course, it didn't surprise me either.

[arj75]

Hey everyone,

I was hoping to share my culture results with you all but.... I'm still waiting for them them to return my phone call.

I do know that I'm not stinking. I'll start my period here in another week or so, hopefully with no stinch afterwards. I forgot to say that my vinegar baths...he said very cold water..and stay in for one minute...this might just be for my cervix being inflamed though. Good news is no burning yeast infection yet..knocking on wood.

I did some more reading about the bodies oxygen levels, and healing, rebuilding vaginal skin cells that are roting away inside..... Our vaginal walls need rebuilt too. I'm gonna try the products I brought up before about improving oxygenation. Worth a shot.

I also started to investigate the link as why african american women are higher at risk(douche to much) , while asian women are the lowest for bv. (They eat a lot of soy) I came across some interesting information about soybeans and soy supplements...and well, I'm confused as hell, because it said that soy can be bad because it has a property in it that "poses itself as estrogen and links with what estrogen should"??? I'm gonna check into that a little more. I just thought I would mention it because I think some of us drink soy milk and eat soy......

My baby had bloodwork done today. The doctor is checking just to be sure I explained to her about the fact that I didn't get to the hospital..and had bv most of my prenantcy..but was never treated for it... She did say that if he had a bacterial infection from strep b that he would be way sicker. I guess she is just checking for my own sanity, but I'm glad she is.

I also read "The yeast connection" and in that article a doctor explains his "theory" of how to check cultures..and moniter the progress of each bacteria..I think monthly? I'm sure that can get pretty damn expensive because he said that most insurance companies don't want to pay for that. No surprise there. I wish he would have mentioned his success rate with his patients by doing that. I'd like to know what my odds are before I would go that route.

[lori]

I FOUND A GREAT PRODUCT FOR BV.

Hi Everyone: I just wanted to let you all know that I came across a probiotic that seems to really work (I noticed a difference almost immediately). It is called Fem Dophilus and it is made by Jarrow.

Thanks help4bv! Good to see that someone else is having good results with Fem-dophilus.

[help4bv]

I FOUND A GREAT PRODUCT FOR BV.

Hi Everyone: I just wanted to let you all know that I came across a probiotic that seems to really work (I noticed a difference almost immediately). It is called Fem Dophilus and it is made by Jarrow. This probiotic is specifically made to re-colonize the vaginal tract with lactobacillus and you only take it orally. It contains two patented forms of lactobacillus that are proven to work specifically for the vaginal tract. Trust me, I have taken probiotics by the handful without results. This is the first time I have gotten results as good as this. Supposedly, flagyll has a cure rate of only 44%, but taking this along with the flagyll increases the cure rate twice as much. I am just using the Fem dophilus by itself and feel blessed relief from this pain in the neck problem. Trust me – you will be amazed.

I too was diagnosed with Strep B as well. I think this is helping that too. I have not felt this good in years!

[CanCan]

I have thought it might be might diet affecting me since im in love with chocolate sugar and caffine. I try to cut back. any advice on what kind of diet i should maintain?

Concerning diet.. a good diet to do is the 'Candida Diet'. I know we are talking about Bacterial Vaginosis on this forum, but killing bacteria and killing yeast is a similar thing. You have to starve the bacteria by cutting off their food source. Don't eat sugar or simple carbs for a while. That is what I am doing, and it seems to be controlling the BV for now. Controlling it until I can figure out what my real health problem is, and why I have chronic BV. I read a book called The Yeast Connection, and that had diet ideas in it. Or you can just google yeast infection on the internet, and there you can find a lot of yeast and bacteria fighting diet information.

Someone mentioned earlier about keeping your diet less acidic - and more alkaline. I believe this is a good way to go. Try to eat healthy alkaline forming foods, so that you can fight infection. Having an acidic body makes it harder to heal. Just to let you know, coffee and sugar are both on the list of acidifying foods. So you should limit them. I try to have not more than one cup of coffee a day! And if you do eat acid forming foods, balance it out with healthier alkaline forming foods.

Also make sure you read through all the previous threads on this board.. there is a lot of information already listed by others. Good luck!

[CanCan]

I was reading a web article where they were putting very young girls (like 6,7,8,9 and so on) on estrogen because their bodies (vaginas) never uhm............what's the word i'm looking for? Developed properly. When I find that article again I'll post it

Thats strange, ok thanks alot.

Not as strange as one would think. My sister had her estrogen and progesterone levels read years ago, and they came back strange, and she was only in her twenties. Your progesterone/estrogen ratio is supposed to be within a certain range, and if the ratio is off, then you will have health issues. I think it would be a good idea to have yours measured by a doctor. I am going for bloodwork myself in two weeks, just to see if that is why I have BV. It could be that my body is just like my sisters.. we seem to be having the same health problems.

[lori]

Well since I have only been seeing a primary physician because I dont have insurance I was being wrongly diagnosed with yeast infections. I would take diflican pills even back to back; take a pill wait 5 days take a pill, and it always seemed to return. I had a culture and it came back BV so i was treated once for that. I kept getting UTI's along the way. So I was at the doctor every week for UTI, yeast or BV. I did monistat once and took some presciptions for BV once. When it came back this time they decided it was chronic and needed something stronger. I started the boric acid suppositorys this week and they will last for 2 months... thats a long time and frustration expecially since the first week of this medicine will be in company of my period. thats just uncomfortable on top of uncomfortable.

I have thought it might be might diet affecting me since im in love with chocolate sugar and caffine. I try to cut back. any advice on what kind of diet i should maintain?

Hello Italianwife88! Boy, you've been through the ringer. I've heard that BV can cause UTI's, and the infection can go back and forth. Looks like that might be the case with you. Let's hope the Boric acid does the trick.

What prescription did you take for your BV?

Have you tried probiotics? Check out my blog for some info. on that (link in my sig)

[Italianwife88]

Thats strange, ok thanks alot.

[neverending]

I was reading a web article where they were putting very young girls (like 6,7,8,9 and so on) on estrogen because their bodies (vaginas) never uhm............what's the word i'm looking for? Developed properly. When I find that article again I'll post it

[Italianwife88]

post menopausal? I'm 19. Could I have estrogen problems already?

I'll let you know what happens with the Boric Acid treatments, I hope it works. I dont want to live with this forever.

[neverending]

Low carbs but i'm not sure! Thanks for sharing the info:)


Estrogen Cream or Estrogen-Releasing Vaginal Devices
Postmenopausal women with recurrent UTIs may consider the use of an estrogen vaginal cream or estrogen-releasing vaginal ring (Estring). Estrogen may resist infection by increasing the number of lactobacilli, the microorganism that fights infection by lowering the vaginal pH levels and preventing E. coli from adhering to vaginal cells. Estrogen creams and estrogen-releasing rings may help reduce the risk of recurring urinary tract infections. Oral hormone replacement therapies that contain estrogen do not seem to provide the same benefit as the topical forms. Estrogen HRT carries many health risks, including an increased risk for breast cancer and heart disease. It is not clear if vaginal forms of estrogen are associated with these risks.

[Italianwife88]

Well since I have only been seeing a primary physician because I dont have insurance I was being wrongly diagnosed with yeast infections. I would take diflican pills even back to back; take a pill wait 5 days take a pill, and it always seemed to return. I had a culture and it came back BV so i was treated once for that. I kept getting UTI's along the way. So I was at the doctor every week for UTI, yeast or BV. I did monistat once and took some presciptions for BV once. When it came back this time they decided it was chronic and needed something stronger. I started the boric acid suppositorys this week and they will last for 2 months... thats a long time and frustration expecially since the first week of this medicine will be in company of my period. thats just uncomfortable on top of uncomfortable.

I have thought it might be might diet affecting me since im in love with chocolate sugar and caffine. I try to cut back. any advice on what kind of diet i should maintain?

[neverending]

WELCOME ITALIANWIFE! Tell us a little about what you have tried? I fixed my problem with estrogen=estroil.

[Italianwife88]

Hi, im new:)

My name is Christina I'm 19 I live in North Carolina.
I've been battling multiple infections since I began being active.
no I dont have a STD.
I've been treated for BV and yeast infections for almost a year now, its exhausting, stressful, and EXPENSIVE;especially without insurance or a good job.

I started a Boric Acid treatment that I have to do for 2 months. I'm pretty new to all this chronic stuff and often think what did i ever do to deserve this hell.




hope to get to know all of you.

[arj75]

All these variants of bacteria are getting me confused. I don't even have the energy to figure out which one I have. Every time I go to a new doctor, it is costing me time and money. I think the thing I am going to do for now, as long as I can hold out, is do the no sugar diet. I have been doing it for the past month and a half. And so far so good. I don't know if I got rid of the infection or not, but I seem to be controlling it. No discharge and no smell. I know that some women get relapses a month down the road, or even two or three months down the road, so that is scary. I am going to stay on this diet. But I am suffering, because I love sugar, and I can't figure out what I can eat. Are there any sugar-free desserts out there that are actually sugar free? I need chocolate or ice cream. And when I read the labels, it looks like there is still some kind of sugar in them. Like sorbitol, mannitol and xylitol.. which are sugar alcohols, but still sugar. I know we don't digest them because of their different chemical composition; but are the bacteria still able to eat them? Does anyone know? Because, if the fake sugars are still feeding the bacteria, then that rules that out.

I am confused as hell too. I went about 4 days without eating, I had myself so stressed out. My new battle plan I'm gonna try is an alkaline diet. Even got myself a couple cookbooks. I'm just gonna avoid refined sugars and fruits and see if that gets me anywhere. I also read that bacteria eat iron, so I'm stopped taking my vitamins with iron added, and I'm just gonna give my body the bare minium it needs of that.

I have no other options, as I can't stick anything else inside my vagina ( to damn scared to anyways lol) I am taking vinegar baths (organic apple cider) and that stuff is expensive...do they sell it by the gallons? One 16 oz bottle is $3.29. I chain smoked my last pack of ciggs...and no more alcohol for at least three months. (keeping my fingers crossed)

My doctor did say he would (consider) " b "injections. I think it might help me because I suffer from anxiety and until I can bitch slap myself back to normal...I'm up shit creek without a paddle.