[anarch]

hell, I meant to say something supportive too: I hope we can meet in person one day, all of us, because you're all so thoughtful and caring and I *know* each of you is beautiful in interesting (not boring, conventional) ways. It would be so cool to be able to tell each other all these supportive things in person. We'd point out the beauty in each other. And we'd have great belly-laughs together!

[anarch]

Curious what you gals think of this:

Victoria's Secret Leopard-Print Wrap Monokini

Sure looks to me like it's designed for smallies. It's actually a one-piece. See the back view. I'm tempted (though animal prints are actually too Look At Me! Look At Me! for my taste), but what the hell keeps it in place? If you lift your arms, will it lift up and show nipples? Maybe it's one of those things that's designed for beach lounging and not actually doing anything active...

[buttercups]

Hey guys, sorry I've been so in-and-out lately, but going crazy getting things ready for a new job, moving in with the bf, trying to pass the biggest test of my life- gah just everything!

Anyways, DeeRayy, *bigggggggggg hug* I can totally relate to how you're feeling- misshapen- but you are being way way WAYYY too hard on yourself. My goodness hunny you have a thyroid condition, you're already not feeling so great as it is, so please do me and you a favor and give yourself a friggin break! I'm not going to try to get you to point out all of your strong points right now (of which there are numerous I know) because I know exactly the kind of mood you are in and I know that sometimes it's just too hard to see them during this time, but what I do what you to do is stop being so hard on yourself and your body during this difficult time and try to be more understanding of yourself. If I had a thyroid condition would you ever say such things to me?? So many women are a size 8 and have small breasts- heck so many women wear a size much higher than an 8 and have small breasts. I for one am envious of women who are a healthier size with small breasts because I think it looks way more womanly than my tiny child-like frame. Small breasts on me looks like I haven't been through puberty for chrissake- so know that there is someone out here who is envious of your shape! Don't put all this pressure on yourself, it is only going to make you feel worse and worse. We all get angry with our bodies, I'm in a battle with mine everyday, but sometimes we just have to let go of all of this horrible pressure we put on ourselves to be a certain way. Thyroid or not, 5 extra pounds or 200 extra pounds, you are incredibly beautiful inside and out- and you will see that once everything else including your medical condition gets straightened out a little. For now, please take this nurse's orders and curl up with a nice book or some trashy tv (more my style), make some tea or light some soothing candles and RELAX. xoxox

[DeeRayy]

hey guys. i've been keeping my posts positive lately, but it seems i'm having a relapse of sorts. i'm in a phase right now where i'm just upset with my body. literally mad at it. you see, it's never really been the size of my boobs alone that have bothered me, but it's the size of my boobs in proportion to the rest of my body. i'm actually at a lower weight right now than i was in high school, but i'm still what you would call "thick" [size 8]. and it's really frustrating because the issues that i'm having with my thyroid are making it extremely difficult to lose weight. my mom just tells me to hang in there and keep at it, but really she has no idea how difficult it is to lose weight with an under active thyroid when your doctor doesn't want to start medication yet. i just feel so out of proportion and misshapen. i don't see a woman's body when i look in the mirror, i just see this shapeless form. i know i should try to take pride in my strong points, but lately i really don't see any. all i see is my pudgy stomach, my lack of hips, my small boobs, my whatever butt. i'm trying to see something, anything that i can take pride in but i can't seem to find anything. i feel so abnormal because most women with small breasts are either very thin or are pear shaped so they at least have a small waist and full hips. i'm not like that- i carry all my weight in my stomach and thighs, and it makes me feel so...i don't want to say deformed but, just odd looking. and i get angry at my body- for not developing breasts, for not having a working thyroid, for just looking like it does. i sometimes feel like my body is my own worst enemy sometimes because it causes me so much grief. i don't expect you guys to relate to what i'm going through with my body, i'm just expressing my frustrations because i get so tired of feeling like this, and i haven't felt this bad in a while.

[KeraBear]

haha, what's the difference between a mammogram and a regular breast exam? my doctor sprung my first breast exam on me last year and it was mighty awkward. she just started feeling me up out of nowhere! and i was like "whoa whoa! what's going on here doc??".

Hey! You'd think she would at least buy you dinner before she tried going to second base?! Ha ha... she didn't at least warn you first? Too funny. LOL

don't fret karategrrl, you're still a hottie!

I second this!

SEXY PARTY!!!!

I'll bring my mustache =D

Whoa... the ladies in the small booby group getting freeeeeeakkkkaaayy!!! On second thought, maybe we shouldn't be advertising this! We've already had a hard enough time in the past keeping the creepers out!

[skindeep1991]

(can anyone say sexy party?)

SEXY PARTY!!!!

I'll bring my mustache =D

[DeeRayy]

Awesomesauce!!!!??? Okay, you totally made my fucking day!! Thank you and YIPPEEEE! I admit I'm going through a tad bit of insecurity--I'm lookingin the mirror and seeing lots of "face-aging" shit I don't like. I've noticed the neck doing weird wrinkly things in the last couple of years, then the face doing strange jowl-like shit. Last night I noticed this little strange outer eyelid sag thing and I was like, "WTF?" From the neck down, though, I'm pretty happy with myself and I say, shit, I don't look bad for 42, but in the back of my mind is this fear that I can't "keep up appearances" for that long. Forget the tits, lately I'm shocked at my face. Never mind that I seem to have gone into hair-production overdrive on my upper lip and chin. Seriously, WTF? I ordered a facial epilator yesterday.

hmmmm i'm going to bet that the only one noticing these things is you karategrrl. it's like we said, we're our own worst enemies sometimes! we tend to blow up our "flaws" when we look in the mirror until that's all we can see. i finally managed to lose the weight i gained from the thyroid problems i was having this spring, and i feel like myself again. but boy did i beat myself up over those extra pounds while they were still on me! it didn't matter that it was a medical condition that caused them, i still managed to get mad at myself for it. so i think you also need to give yourself a break missy. oh and on the mini mustache thing- i , like skindeep, am pretty dark and already have to wax my upper lip. it's really no big deal.

don't fret karategrrl, you're still a hottie! and 42 isn't even old! my mother is only a couple years younger than you and she still gets carded when she buys alcohol.

I'll leave you FANTASTIC ladies with this request:
I'm getting my annual mammogram later today--you know, that thing you have to do when you turn into an old fuck, ha. One of my best friends is a mamm tech and she does my exams, and it's a fucking riot. So please send my sweet 42-year-old booblets some special lovin' as they get squished. (Haha, they look much bigger in the x-ray--all smooshed.)
You ladies rock mightily.

haha, what's the difference between a mammogram and a regular breast exam? my doctor sprung my first breast exam on me last year and it was mighty awkward. she just started feeling me up out of nowhere! and i was like "whoa whoa! what's going on here doc??". haha, so i wish your boobies well as they get all smooshed and squished (can anyone say sexy party?)

[skindeep1991]

Awesomesauce!!!!??? Okay, you totally made my fucking day!! Thank you and YIPPEEEE! I admit I'm going through a tad bit of insecurity--I'm lookingin the mirror and seeing lots of "face-aging" shit I don't like. I've noticed the neck doing weird wrinkly things in the last couple of years, then the face doing strange jowl-like shit. Last night I noticed this little strange outer eyelid sag thing and I was like, "WTF?" From the neck down, though, I'm pretty happy with myself and I say, shit, I don't look bad for 42, but in the back of my mind is this fear that I can't "keep up appearances" for that long. Forget the tits, lately I'm shocked at my face. Never mind that I seem to have gone into hair-production overdrive on my upper lip and chin. Seriously, WTF? I ordered a facial epilator yesterday.

Then again, I got in to work today to have one of the security guards tell me that he saw another guy--this middle-aged dude--practically fall down and do convulsions at the sight of me yesterday (I think that was how he said it, ha), which I find kind of amusing. Part of me doubts it, and says, "Big deal, guys get off at the sight of any woman who's not elderly or morbidly obese," and the other part of me says, "Heh, jowls or not, I still got it." So Kera, your comment is compliment #2 this morning. Thank you for the lift!!!!!! Needed it!!!!!
Skindeep:
You're not the only one who's got "ex" complexes. That's one of my challenges, too. I generally don't do too well with the whole "ex" thing, but I'm getting better. DeeRayy's post on this was TOTALLY on the mark--yes, they are EXes for a reason! Recnetly my hubby got back in touch with an ex of his (fuckin' Facebook) and it was actually kinda funny to see that this girl he'd talked about and I'd worked up in my head as being this hot knockout is, like, not to be mean, but I'll just say she's no threat. At all. So yes, DeeRayy's right--our own worst enemies are in our own heads!

Which brings me to Kera's mention of her and DR's "positivity" thread. Way to go, grrls!!!!!!!!! Good shit. Thinking more positively has seriously changed my life. And I guess if I wasn't thinking good thoughts, I'd be totally down in the dumps about my face, instead of like, "Huh?"


I'll leave you FANTASTIC ladies with this request:
I'm getting my annual mammogram later today--you know, that thing you have to do when you turn into an old fuck, ha. One of my best friends is a mamm tech and she does my exams, and it's a fucking riot. So please send my sweet 42-year-old booblets some special lovin' as they get squished. (Haha, they look much bigger in the x-ray--all smooshed.)
You ladies rock mightily.

Personally I think a woman with a couple of wrinkles here and there is a hell lot more attractive than bot-ox faced women. There's nothing sexier than aging gracefully apposed to pumping yourself with chemicals cause no one wants to end up with the Jacky Stallone look that's not a good look to be wearing out.
That's the perk of having small breasticles, always perky =D. After all men are doing convulsions at the sight of you so I'm sure you look amazing.

Thing is I don't feel too intimidated by his less attractive ex's like you said, but it's the really attractive ones that really get to me. I hate the thought of it and It upsets me.
He's in trouble with me today anyway for the utter lack of respect he's showed me earlier, it's a long story but basically left me feeling used. so not a good feeling at the moment.

I hope your booblets will be okays after being smushed D= I will send lots of love your way <3

Also being quite a dark girl I have a little mustache already and i'm only 19 so by the time I get to 50 odd i'm going to have a full on beard haha

[karategrrl]

I am giving Karategrrl honorary teen status because she is so awesomesauce!

Awesomesauce!!!!??? Okay, you totally made my fucking day!! Thank you and YIPPEEEE! I admit I'm going through a tad bit of insecurity--I'm lookingin the mirror and seeing lots of "face-aging" shit I don't like. I've noticed the neck doing weird wrinkly things in the last couple of years, then the face doing strange jowl-like shit. Last night I noticed this little strange outer eyelid sag thing and I was like, "WTF?" From the neck down, though, I'm pretty happy with myself and I say, shit, I don't look bad for 42, but in the back of my mind is this fear that I can't "keep up appearances" for that long. Forget the tits, lately I'm shocked at my face. Never mind that I seem to have gone into hair-production overdrive on my upper lip and chin. Seriously, WTF? I ordered a facial epilator yesterday.

Then again, I got in to work today to have one of the security guards tell me that he saw another guy--this middle-aged dude--practically fall down and do convulsions at the sight of me yesterday (I think that was how he said it, ha), which I find kind of amusing. Part of me doubts it, and says, "Big deal, guys get off at the sight of any woman who's not elderly or morbidly obese," and the other part of me says, "Heh, jowls or not, I still got it." So Kera, your comment is compliment #2 this morning. Thank you for the lift!!!!!! Needed it!!!!!


Skindeep:
You're not the only one who's got "ex" complexes. That's one of my challenges, too. I generally don't do too well with the whole "ex" thing, but I'm getting better. DeeRayy's post on this was TOTALLY on the mark--yes, they are EXes for a reason! Recnetly my hubby got back in touch with an ex of his (fuckin' Facebook) and it was actually kinda funny to see that this girl he'd talked about and I'd worked up in my head as being this hot knockout is, like, not to be mean, but I'll just say she's no threat. At all. So yes, DeeRayy's right--our own worst enemies are in our own heads!

Which brings me to Kera's mention of her and DR's "positivity" thread. Way to go, grrls!!!!!!!!! Good shit. Thinking more positively has seriously changed my life. And I guess if I wasn't thinking good thoughts, I'd be totally down in the dumps about my face, instead of like, "Huh?"


I'll leave you FANTASTIC ladies with this request:
I'm getting my annual mammogram later today--you know, that thing you have to do when you turn into an old fuck, ha. One of my best friends is a mamm tech and she does my exams, and it's a fucking riot. So please send my sweet 42-year-old booblets some special lovin' as they get squished. (Haha, they look much bigger in the x-ray--all smooshed.)


You ladies rock mightily.

[KeraBear]

Oh yeah, and i just counted. NINE posts today from the under-20 crowd. Ha ha. Teens rule the small boobie site yet again!!

EDIT: Actually, no, I am updating this to TEN. I am giving Karategrrl honorary teen status because she is so awesomesauce!

[KeraBear]

We should have a day where we just make each other feel better about things we don't like about ourselves. doesn't have to be breasts can be anything but I think it would be a feel good day, and possibly a little freeing...

let me know your thoughts?

Hmm... interesting thought. I dunno though... in a recent PM exchange with DeeRayy we both challenged ourselves to name five things that we liked about ourselves physically (and yes, it WAS challenging! I had to stop and think for five minutes or so when I got to number five). We both agreed that it was a positive experience. We also agreed that it wouldn't be nearly as challenging to throw out a quick list of five things that we don't like about ourselves. Ultimately we decided that doing that would be more negative than positive - mostly because it would cause us to dwell even more on such things. Maybe a day where we talk about things we like about ourselves would be a better idea.

Yes, there is certainly some power in positive affirmation from others, but we cannot rely on it. I was reading something on the Stop Hating Your Body site the other day that really struck me as true. It said that self confidence comes from the inside-out not the outside-in. I liked that a lot.

[DeeRayy]

btw, i've been doing a lot of boredom induced internet surfing since i'm stuck in bed recovering, and i found theee best youtube channel ever! here are a couple of videos that pertain to this thread. it's a a sex positive blog run by a sexologist and feminist activist, and they do their best to empower women.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGa58YXJNBg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng9b0UsZXcc
(this one's mainly about penis size insecurity but they do a good job in pointing out how porn is a caricature of sex)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feRssvAqRwc

[DeeRayy]

I know i shouldn't talk about it but it really plays on my mind. I know its silly. Like when he says he finds an actress attractive i always point out her breast size and just make myself feel inferior, its gotten to the point where i avoid even mentioning if someone is attractive on tv to avoid him mentioning who he finds attractive. I get easily intimidated and sometimes i think it puts stress on my relationship.

hmmm well i've definitely been in your shoes. yes, insecurity definitely puts stress on a relationship. i shall quote the ever awesome strongirl with a line from one of her posts that really stuck with me for some reason- "don't let your insecurity be bigger than the attraction between you two."

you stated yourself that you find guys on tv attractive. and i'm guessing that a lot of those guys on tv that you find attractive have a more "ideal" body than your boyfriend (although you can correct me if i'm wrong). that doesn't make them better than you're ex, but of course you already knew that. similarly, you are in no way "inferior" to some actress on tv just because her breasts are bigger than yours. i think you just need to learn not to place so much value and emphasis on that ONE part of your body. you shouldn't let your boobs define you, believe me i've done it and it just made me miserable. i'm gonna get all therapist on you and suggest you spend time looking at the parts of your body that you do like right now, because they deserve just as much attention as the parts of your body that you don't like. i could spend all day expressing my feelings on this, but i'll leave it at that

another thing that irks me is that your sense of self seems to be too dependent on his approval. hun, he's already told you that he is satisfied with you, what's it gonna take from him to make you feel better? of course, if you're on this thread you already know that there is nothing our partner can do to fix our own insecurities. but anyway, i just think you're too worried about pleasing him and not worried enough about yourself. this reminds me of an article i once read on the beauty myth. i'll spare you the entire article because it's rather lengthy and focuses on the writer's obsession with her butt and thighs. but this excerpt is very interesting.

"Why are we so obsessed with our appearance in the first place?

Some, like Naomi Wolf, put the blame squarely on Madison Avenue, and it is true that Big Business profits from your self-hate. If they can convince you that you are a ugly, you just might be willing to buy their diet book, mouthwash, shoes, designer jeans, or plastic surgery...

But that's not the whole story. I think one underlying cause for the "beauty myth" is that we women still see ourselves mostly in relation to men. We are raised to believe that if we find Prince Charming, life will be wonderful. No more pain, no more loneliness. We will be complete. And the major way we win Mr.Wonderful's heart is by being beautiful. In the fairy tale, the heroine was always the "fairest in the land". For women, beauty is power.

So, we diet, Botox our wrinkles, and shrink ourselves into the uncomfortable shoe to have the "fairy tale" love. At least, I used to believe that way. So, I kept primping and waiting for Romeo. Well, he hasn't shown up yet. And as I grew older, I realized that even if I were to meet him, my life wouldn't be perfect. When I finally got this through my head, my obsession with finding Prince Charming faded somewhat, and my fixation on my appearance followed.

If we ever get to the point where the majority of women have an autonomous identity that is not dependent on some man's approval, (and this is going to take both equal pay and equal power) Botox wouldn't hold such allure. In fact, it might go belly up, and our "moments" could be moments of celebration not denigration. We would finally realize that love does not conquer all -- certainly not self-hatred. And we don't need to be completed.

We are complete."

[skindeep1991]

aww skindeep you shouldn't be trying to compare yourself to the other girls your boyfriend has been with. this may sound cliche, but they're his EX girlfriends for a reason. he said that he loves you the way you are. it's best not to bring those kinds of things up because believe me, you will end up driving yourself crazy for no good reason.

let's put it this way- have you been with other guys in the past? and do their bodies make you appreciate your boyfriend's body any less?

if i seem to be responding fast, it's because i'm in bed with strep throat. eeek, strep throat is from the devil, the devil i say!

I know i shouldn't talk about it but it really plays on my mind. I know its silly. Like when he says he finds an actress attractive i always point out her breast size and just make myself feel inferior, its gotten to the point where i avoid even mentioning if someone is attractive on tv to avoid him mentioning who he finds attractive. I get easily intimidated and sometimes i think it puts stress on my relationship.

Oh noes not strep throat i'll kill it for you. Hope you feel better soon

[DeeRayy]

I had a bad night last night, I started talking to my boyfriend about all the girls he used to be with and how they all had breasts and I made myself feel bad. He was very supportive though and kept re-assuring me and telling me that he loved me the way I am. I just sometimes have issues with my partners ex girlfriends =/ is it just me?

aww skindeep you shouldn't be trying to compare yourself to the other girls your boyfriend has been with. this may sound cliche, but they're his EX girlfriends for a reason. he said that he loves you the way you are. it's best not to bring those kinds of things up because believe me, you will end up driving yourself crazy for no good reason.

let's put it this way- have you been with other guys in the past? and do their bodies make you appreciate your boyfriend's body any less?

if i seem to be responding fast, it's because i'm in bed with strep throat. eeek, strep throat is from the devil, the devil i say!

[skindeep1991]

hmmm well karategrrl's suggestion makes sense. you could post a pic on that 007 site. i honestly don't think i'm at the point where i could post a pic of my boobs, but that's just me. but if you want to i shall totally cheer you on

Lol I got as far as taking the pictures and then I felt like poo and decided against it, nevermind ey. I tried xD maybe at a later date.

I had a bad night last night, I started talking to my boyfriend about all the girls he used to be with and how they all had breasts and I made myself feel bad. He was very supportive though and kept re-assuring me and telling me that he loved me the way I am. I just sometimes have issues with my partners ex girlfriends =/ is it just me?

[DeeRayy]

I was contemplating putting a picture up of my breasts on here to see what people think, do you guys think that's a good idea?
We should have a day where we just make each other feel better about things we don't like about ourselves. doesn't have to be breasts can be anything but I think it would be a feel good day, and possibly a little freeing...

let me know your thoughts?

hmmm well karategrrl's suggestion makes sense. you could post a pic on that 007 site. i honestly don't think i'm at the point where i could post a pic of my boobs, but that's just me. but if you want to i shall totally cheer you on

[karategrrl]

I was contemplating putting a picture up of my breasts on here to see what people think, do you guys think that's a good idea?
We should have a day where we just make each other feel better about things we don't like about ourselves. doesn't have to be breasts can be anything but I think it would be a feel good day, and possibly a little freeing...

let me know your thoughts?

I'm for whatever makes you feel great, I'm just not sure exactly where you'd post them here--I think I'm msissing something. You can post boobie pcs on 007.com (I think that's the site) too. I'd post a pic of mine as long as it was anonymous--no head.

I love the pic of lea michele. She's beautiuous, but what I like most is that she exudes confidence in this photo, with booblets half-exposed. Aw yeah!

[skindeep1991]

i third this!

skindeep, sooooo glad to hear that you feel me on the nose/ethnic appearance thing. it definitely was something that was always pointed out to me as a child. but now we both realize that it's a good thing to look unique! it may not always be easy to have that attitude (well, at least for me it's not), but we should definitely both take pride in out features- the nose and the boobs and all! you know what we should do? we should call up lea michele and form some kind of exotic looking, small boobied version of charlies angels!

i hope you use lea as a role model too. i know i do. just look at her, she's gorgeous and she has both of the features that we share!

http://www.dailymakeover.com/appImages/gal...Apr_12_2010.jpg

Lol yeah we so should be all ethnic but not really ethnic charlies angels! xD sound's like lots of fun. And yeah I love her she's gorgeous and I love how she doesn't look like everyone else.


I was contemplating putting a picture up of my breasts on here to see what people think, do you guys think that's a good idea?
We should have a day where we just make each other feel better about things we don't like about ourselves. doesn't have to be breasts can be anything but I think it would be a feel good day, and possibly a little freeing...

let me know your thoughts?

[DeeRayy]

Skindeep, your mother was totally right! You sound like one hot mamacita!!!!

i third this!

skindeep, sooooo glad to hear that you feel me on the nose/ethnic appearance thing. it definitely was something that was always pointed out to me as a child. but now we both realize that it's a good thing to look unique! it may not always be easy to have that attitude (well, at least for me it's not), but we should definitely both take pride in out features- the nose and the boobs and all! you know what we should do? we should call up lea michele and form some kind of exotic looking, small boobied version of charlies angels!

i hope you use lea as a role model too. i know i do. just look at her, she's gorgeous and she has both of the features that we share!

http://www.dailymakeover.com/appImages/gal...Apr_12_2010.jpg