[mela]

I just wanted to add that Enzara has not been working at all. I did just finish my period but the smell is even more prominent than when I was menstruating. Also I tried rephresh last night and that seems to be no help either. I called my doctor and am going in for a colposcopy today for the cervical dyplasia. I will let you know how it goes. I think I will return the Enzara, it is a waste. I will let you guys know what she says.

[turnip]

joylove: Thanks for the update. I have also bought the Jamu Herbal Stick from the website you gave. I will update you as soon as I receive and try them. I saw many good feedbacks from the sellers eBay feedbacks. Here is the link if anyone is interested to get them:
http://stores.ebay.com/SouthSeas-Alternative-Products
Please keep me update on your progress with the Jamu Stick.

[bincha2]

never ending.. I do not have facial hair, but i do have discharge a have gained waight. All the dr prescribed for me is yasmin,,, if you do have all these symptoms that you say you do it iv very important that you stop eating refined carbs and that you drop at least 2o puonds so that the insuline resistance in your body gets better and that way it will stop atacking you hormones. It is a bever ending cyncle. But the only weight to start is loosing a lot of weight. Also you should exercise at least 2o minutes daily.(stroneous exercise for at least 20 min) Good luck

[sassy]

I had BV before I was ever on birth control and I am now on birth control and there has been no change. I have treated it both before and now and it has also had no difference.

[chantelhugo]

neverending: I took Yasmin for a month but it didnt do much only gained me 5 extra pounds!..I dont know if i should continue with it even if it didnt do much over the first month ?

[mela]

Neverending thank you so much for your reply. I am definitely going to look into your suggestions. I just wanted to know what kind of regimen you are following? Did you order it off the web(the vitamins) or did you go to a pharmacy / health food store?

Wipeout98a thanks for your reply. I was having a lot of breakthrough bleeding while on seasonale. I began the packet in March of last year and began having a horrible stench a few months later in May. I thought that perhaps my body had to release the blood (being that you are supposed to get your period every 3 months on these pills). However I was having a lot of breakthrough bleeding and the smell never went away. I got off the pill a few months later and am still having this issue. My doctor has treated me and now says I am fine but I know my body and I know I am not fine. She maybe just has run out of treatment options.

Alwaysonmymind I was wondering were you ever on birth control pills? I was a virgin till I met my current and got on bc pills and since have been facing this issue. My doctor doesn’t seem too helpful as she tells me that this is very common and up to 80% of women will have cervical dyplasia / HPV at some point in their lives. I would assume that if the cells were removed the stench would subside. Thanks for your reply.


Jewlscando – I have been using Enzara for about a week now. I have yet to notice any changes however when I began the program I was starting my period. A week later my period is subsiding but I am noticing a smell still. However I will give it another week to see how it goes. I am guessing the product is not very good. I have purchased something called BIOKPLUS(+) from my local health food store that is supposed to help with infections as well as boost immunity. However it is very expensive at $5 for a small container and the taste is much bitter than yogurt.

[joylove]

turnip...I suggest you ask the seller with regards to your questions. I myself feel that the Jamu Herbal Stick really works for me. From what I read, its made from herbs only found on the island of Madura. There is a book written about Jamu and you can get them on eBay too. My experience is that the first time I used the Jamu Herbal Stick, I had it in for about 5 minutes. When I took out the Jamu Stick, there were loads of yellowish stuff sticking to it. Just remember to rinse yourself well after using the Jamu Stick. I felt tighter and dryer after the first use. Its almost like a miracle. Well, it works well for me and from the sellers feedback that I saw on eBay, there were many happy users. Let me know if you have use the Jamu Stick.

[neverending]

Sassy: Did you have B.v. before you started to take birth control or did you take birth control then stopped and then thats when the discharge started?I'm just curious, and I know everyone is different when it comes to our bodies, but I do think there is a strong connection between this and birth control because I never had any problems until I started the pill.
Chantelhugo:Have you ever taken birth control pills?

[turnip]

joylove: Could you tell me more about the jamu herbal stick? I heard about this stuff but wasn't sure about how it works. I did visit the link you gave and bought the oak gall foam wash. will be getting them around 1 to 2 weeks.I have very wet discharge and have tried many over the counter medications. I read about herbs having natural properties to clear this problem of mine. I just want to try herbs for a change and if you could advise me your experience with the jamu stick.

[jewelscando]

Oh and by the way, the Enzara does not work, and cause's really bad Yeast Infections, at least that was my experience.

[sassy]

Just to mention something about birth control. I have had chronic BV both while taking birth control and while not taking birth control. My step-sister also has this problem and birth control has not been a factor...just saying that I don't think that alone contributes.

[joylove]

chantelhugo, I am using the Jamu Herbal Stick and it really helps with clearing those bad odours I have.I use this regularly once a week now. I think my body will keep producing these bad odours and those white discharge so I can only control my problem.

[joylove]

hmmm, Beofre using the Jamu Herbal Stick, I had very bad odour and the white discharge was quite severe. I had a Japanes friend who recommended me the Jamu Stick as she said its common practise in Tokyo Japan. I use the stick now once weekly and whenever I have time. I have also tried their Oak Gall foam and it compliments well with my overall hygene. The Manjakani Oak Gall balances the PH level as its stated in their ad. This link maybe of help:
http://cgi.ebay.com/OAK-GALL-FOAM-WASH-TIGHTENS-CLEANSES-WOMENS-VAGINA-NEW_W0QQi temZ5658992967QQcategoryZ67590QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

[alwaysonmymind]

Mela, I too have HPV, cervical dyplesia and I also have chronic BV. I am still being monitored by my OBGYN to see if the abnormal cells will go away by themselves. I want them out already! Yes, men do not know when they have HPV, I believe I got mine four years ago and didn't find out until a year ago! I was getting annual paps! I was having problems with BV before I even knew I had HPV, mainly from unprotected sex. Try wearing condoms for now...Good luck!

[wipeout98a]

Seasonale, huh, mela? I'm on it too, but I've been on it for like 3 years. 7 months ago I started dealing with what I think is BV. Rephresh is supposed to change the acidity, I hear, but it sounds like you guys haven't had very good luck with it.

I really haven't had that smell you all are talking about. Just the recurring itch, and some pain during sex. I've had Flagyl twice, and it's not very bad, but the sex isn't right. It sounds like some of you have had better luck with condoms. For me, the problem started after my boyfriend and I started having sex without condoms. We were both tested. I wonder about semen changing the body's pH.

But I don't have the smell problem, and my OB-GYN is confused. She thinks maybe I shoudl get after the Seasonale (after I finish this expensive package) and try the Nuva ring....

Sorry to ramble, but at least Iknow you all understand.

[chantelhugo]

my doctor said i have high levels of testesterone.. does anyone know anything about this? he prescribed me Yasmin but after a month i got off it... i need suggestions!

[neverending]

Mela:I have suffered with B.V. for 4yrs. and I think it all started when I got off Birth Control LO/OVRAL.I know how you feel!I have been doing a lot of research this week and I have come up with a conclusion.
Here it is:
Birth control tricks the body into thinking it is pregnant by using higher doses of estrogen.I have never read the paper that came along with the pack of birth control until this week and here is what it states:
Birth control may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the nutrient. Taking these nutrients may help replenish them. Folic acid

Magnesium*

Vitamin B1*

Vitamin B12*

Vitamin B2*

Vitamin B3*

Vitamin B6

Vitamin C*

Zinc*
reduction/prevention—Taking these supplements may help reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the medication. Folic acid

Vitamin B6

May be Beneficial: Supportive interaction—Taking these supplements may support or otherwise help your medication work better. Folic acid*

Avoid: Adverse interaction—Avoid these supplements when taking this medication because taking them together may cause undesirable or dangerous results. St. John’s wort*

Tobacco

Check: Other—Before taking any of these supplements or eating any of these foods with your medication, read this article in full for details. Calcium

Copper

Iron

Manganese

Vitamin A
Interactions common to many, if not all.(WHY WAS I NOT TOLD.)
Interactions with Dietary Supplements
Folic acid
Oral contraceptive (OC) use can cause folic acid depletion.1 In a double-blind trial of OC users with cervical dysplasia, supplementation with very large amounts (10 mg per day) of folic acid improved cervical health.2 Women with cervical dysplasia diagnosed while they are taking OCs should consult a doctor. Mega-folate supplementation should not be attempted without a doctor’s supervision, nor is there any reason to believe that folic acid supplementation would help people with cervical cancer.

Iron
Menstrual blood loss is typically reduced with use of OCs. This can lead to increased iron stores and, presumably, a decreased need for iron in premenopausal women.3 Premenopausal women taking OCs should have their iron levels monitored and talk with their prescribing doctor before using iron-containing supplements.

Magnesium
Women using OCs were found to have significantly lower serum magnesium levels in a controlled study.4 In a preliminary study, blood levels of magnesium decreased in women taking an OC containing ethinyl estradiol and levonorgestrel.5 Although the importance of this interaction remains somewhat unclear, supplementation with 250–350 mg of magnesium per day is a safe and reasonable supplemental level for most adults.

Vitamin B6
Oral contraceptives have been associated with vitamin B6 depletion and clinical depression. In a small, double-blind study of women with depression taking OCs, vitamin B6 (20 mg twice per day) improved depression.6 Half of the women in the study showed laboratory evidence of vitamin B6 deficiency.

Other nutrients
A review of literature suggests that women who use OCs may experience decreased vitamin B1, B2, B3, B12, C, and zinc levels.7 8 9 OC use has been associated with increased absorption of calcium and copper and with increased blood levels of copper and vitamin A.10 11 12 OCs may interfere with manganese absorption.13 The clinical importance of these actions remains unclear



Birth control may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the nutrient. Taking these nutrients may help replenish them. Folic acid

Magnesium*

Vitamin B1*

Vitamin B12*

Vitamin B2*

Vitamin B3*

Vitamin B6

Vitamin C*

Zinc*

May be Beneficial: Side effect reduction/prevention—Taking these supplements may help reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the medication. Folic acid

Vitamin B6

May be Beneficial: Supportive interaction—Taking these supplements may support or otherwise help your medication work better. Folic acid*
The people that produce birth control know that their products are unhealthy for women but they continue to profit off of us.
Birth control causes an estrogen dominance and that can lead to many horrible side effects that we have INCLUDING CERVICAL DYSPLASIA.
Here is something else that might help:
http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/estrogen_dominance.html

http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/estrogen_dominance.html

http://www.natureshealthypeople.com/explain_estrogen_dominance.html

http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/myomin.html

http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/progesterone-cream.html

http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/symptoms-of-estrogen-domina nce.php

http://www.womentowomen.com/symptoms.asp

Birth control throws your body off track(hormonal imbalance) so we need to balance the body and put those missing minerals back in our system.Also B.V occurs when the acidity of the vagina changes.Notice how birth control depletes all of the things our body needs to stay acidic.Coincidence maybe? I THINK NOT AND I AM PISSED MY DOCTOR DID NOT TELLL ME ABOUT ALL OF THIS BEFORE HAND.Thank God I can read and do my own research.I just hate it's taken 4yrs. to piece everything together.I have been B.V. free for a week and a half.I just need to stick to the program and pray that the B.V. isn't smart enough to catch on to my program and become super B.V.
Sorry this is so long but it might help!

[mela]

I have been suffering with a bad odor myself(for about a year). It all started after I got on the birthcontrol Seanonale. I would bleed for like 4 weeks straight (lots of outbreak bleeding). I was on seasonale for like 7 months before I got off of it. I have been with my boyfriend for 2 years and I was a vigin when we started. However I couldnt take the smell it was so embarassing I have gone to the GYN and she treated me 3 times and the smell comes back. She says I'm crazy nothing is wrong but me and my BF can smell it after sex. The smell is not as harsh but it is there.
Anyway she did a PAP and it turns out I have cervical dyplasia / HPV. My boyfriend went to the clinic several times before we even had sex for the first time however she says sometimes it doesnt pick up on the male. Huh?? Anyway I have to go back so she can do a colposcopy. I am on my period but I purchased ENZARA and have been taking it for a week. I can't tell if its working because I am on my period but I will let you guys know how it turns out. I also have doing alot of research and have concluded that these smells sometimes is because of the abnormalities of the cells. I was wondering if anyone with these smells has had an abnormal PAP. Also I am convinced that this has to do with the birth control Seasonale that I was on (I'm not sure if the docotr is correct that I have traces of HPV). Perhaps I should find another OBGYN.

[sassy]

Rephresh is okay. I occasionally use it after my period. It isn't a permanent solution, though. It only really keeps the odor away for like 3 days and to use it constantly would cost a fortune. It also leaves you with a yeast-like discharge that is gross.

[wipeout98a]

Has anyone tried the repHresh gel? It's supposed to keep your vaginal pH at 4.5 and prevent BV from happening/recurring...