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jewelscando
post May 7 2007, 03:17 PM
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Not, it's right. 1 Pill twice a day, for 7 days.

Hopefully this will work for you....
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Morphia
post May 7 2007, 02:12 PM
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Alright. So I went to pick up my Flagyl today and as I was being checked out I looked at the label and to my horror it said to take ONE pill twice a day for 7 days. Now, I say "to my horror" because isn't it supposed to be TWO pills twice a day? The milligram is 500. Is the dosage wrong??? Because if its too low then it will do SQUAT. I just took my first one at 3:15-3:20. How many hours apart should I take them?
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post May 7 2007, 01:55 PM
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Hey guys...I have been gone for a couple of months due to lack of internet access. Nothing new to report...I'm still using the boric a couple times a week. It seems a lot of you have had success with the flagyl vaginally so I'm going to give that a try. I don't really want to use the estoroil yet, but I might sometime. My honeymoon/wedding is in September, and I would really like to get this under control. I'm really worried about getting on the plane with boric or flagyl that isn't technically prescribed to me (i.e. ordered online.)
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post May 7 2007, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(neverending @ May 7 2007, 09:42 AM) *
Morphia: Try the diva cup during your period. It works wonders!


I'm 100% sure that won't help since my symptoms reappeared before my period. I don't think my period is the cause. I think the cause is that I've had it for so long that its grown to be a Goliath of an infection. But I'll try it anyway.

Has anyone here tried povidone-iodine yet?
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post May 7 2007, 08:25 AM
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Morphia: Try the diva cup during your period. It works wonders!
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post May 7 2007, 07:27 AM
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Well, girls. The results are in. I have bv. The Clindesse did Jack shit. And so did the primadophilus reuteri, and so did the Fem-dophilus, and so did cutting out almost every carb known to man (I pretty much eat nothing but meat and vegetables), and so did the folic acid, b vitamins and whole vitamin supplement, as well as quitting smoking. I stopped using soap on my actual vagina and only on the outside and made damn sure I kept my legs closed enough to keep anything from getting in there. I slept with no underwear on and used pads during my period. I even bought brand new underwear to wear during the day. I don't take baths and I don't use antibacterial soap. And it seems that this shit only got worse. Still no smell. Hardly any discharge...But the burning....God...the burning. I did everything right and it did nothing. So, they gave me the option of Flagyl or Metrogel. I chose the Flagyl. And I don't care how sick it makes me or how bad it tastes. I'm going to stick it out because its supposed to be the most effective. According to all of you here, it seems that if I can't kick it the first time, then I likely never will. So I guess I'm joining the club. I'll be looking forward to a wonderful life of sticking foreign objects up my vag to get relief, only to realize it made it worse. And why in God's name does it burn? Its not supposed to hurt....
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arj75
post May 7 2007, 06:38 AM
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I was wondering what any of us have in common as far as our diets, body chemistry, health history, and any medications that you have taken in the past..including drug use. Also, if anyone cares to share their sexual habits as far as how often you have intercourse, and is it rough sex or not. I'm going today to buy some ph test strips to monitor my urine ph...I know it is higher than most healthy people the past three times I have had it done. I seems like that my body temperature is usually below normal because I'm always cold. Do any of you experience that? I'm gonna go buy a nutriction book today, I'm hoping that if I can balance my body ph through diet, that it might help my vagina have an easier time keeping itself balanced. Since my urine ph is high, which means it has a lot of amonia in it..the body uses it as a buffer so the urine isn't as acidic and doesn't burn...might be making my kitty more basic too. Maybe we should rinse with water after peeing (just the outside area)? This is my new theory, I'm gonna keep a journal for my doctor of my diet, body temperature, and urine ph. (hoping he will give a shit). I quit taking baths too , it hasn't helped the bv from reoccurring.
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arj75
post May 6 2007, 09:50 PM
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I was pregnant with my son, and never diagnosed with bv, I thought the funk was from the pregnancy, and was too embarrassed to mention it. I will say this that in the last trimester, i had too much aminoitic fluid, which can make uterus think its ready to deliver when the baby isnt ready. Luckily, he made it through fine. Makes me wonder how many premature births this bv really causes, since I was never diagnosed, and a lot of women have it without the smell and discharge....
I am having a hard time with this bv, started having aniexty attacks, I had insominia for a year..i can kinda sleep now..a lot of nightmares though.then the panic attacks harvested. I had to go to doctor for that...just last month..he doesn't know about my stinky snatch. (just a new gp doc) I know my hormones are way off. Can they test that? Does anyone think if I go on the pill that maybe it could help balance them out?
I'm gonna go take my prozac and shut up for now.
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post May 6 2007, 09:32 PM
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Thanks to you all for your kindness. I am realllly glad that I found this forum. I have read a lot of what has been posted about different theories and such forth. I find it all interesting. I have many questions, as I'm sure many of you all do. I'll try not to wear you all out. But I'm on break from school for 2 weeks so I'm gonna learn as much as I can during this time. There are probably a million different ways to get bv but I know what didn't cause mine. Never been of birth control, never douched before this, never used soapn kitty before this. I do shave down there...is that an irritant for anyone?
I'm sure that you most of you all know that sperm ph is high, and ours is lower more acidic. but my boy friend has had vasectomy and has a hard time getting off wearing a condom or pulling out. Not to mention that I must be lousy at giving head because I can't get him off that way. He loves to do (did) love to go down on me. I hadn't thought of that being a trigger, but it makes sense.
I drink coffee, a lot of soda, and smoke, my diet needs much improvement. I did try to cut out all of the soda I drink and I lost 9 pounds in a month, and well, I'm 5'9" and weight 120 pounds, couldn't afford to lose the weight. Plus it didn't help with the bv.
Has anyone seen a dietician on what food to eat to lower body ph? I have read about what to avoid just not what could help besides yogurt..is activa the brand most of u eat?
I'll bitch later about my doctor appointment experiences, I don't want to even get started on that right now. I have had planned parent hood cancel on me twice only to reschedule my appointments a month later each time. So I did go to my ob that delivered my son..they are dumbass jerks.
I have went through 2 rounds of m-gel and the other one commonly perscribed, which it goes away for a few days...5 day record for me.
I did have an abnormal pap...they cut a piece of my cervix...told me to come back after birth of my son..which is when I lost my job and health insurance..
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post May 6 2007, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 6 2007, 11:53 AM) *
Hope that answers your question!!

Yes, thanks Jewels!

Hope you hear from your doctor tomorrow Morphia!


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post May 6 2007, 08:14 PM
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I was recently diagnosed with bv. But I have been suffering from it for about 2 years now. I don't have health insurance and I'm a single mom, so going to the doctor week after week, I simply can't afford. I tried to treat it on my own for several months. It comes back whenever I have sex and after my period. Right before I resorted to going to the doctor I did something really stupid and douched 2 nights in a row with straight hydrogen perioxide and I made it worse. I started having a brown discharge and bleeding after sex. I have went through 2 rounds of 96 $ x 2 of Metronidazole and it made it go away until I had sex again. While I was using the gel, I had big huge nasty ass clumps of white shit speckled with blood. Is it possible to have a yeast infection and bv at the same time? I have tried garlic, hydrogen p, yogurt, antibacterial soap ( wash with it like mf) is that bad? I tried the zinc and vitimin c combo ( but stopped when I freaked myself out about overdosing with the zinc. My boyfriend thinks I'm cheating on him because up until about 5 months ago, the fishy smell was very mild, now it is so strong, it makes me want to vomit. It's driving me crazy, I think I would rather have had been diagnosed with herpes than this shit, ( I don't have nor have I ever had an std). Has anyone been so desperate to try the products sold online..you know with the Yeah, yeah, you'll get your money back if it doesn't work... This bv is driving me insane, which may be the reason I'm having anxiety attacks on a daily basis, and now I'm on prozac. (which isn't helping either. Has anyone been cured from simply not drinking coffee anymore and by quiting smoking? Does anyone have the time to list the top ten home remendies and the amount I should use it and the number of days. I don't want to kill myself trying to treat it.



Girl believe me I feel your pain! This bv shit sucks so bad! The only thing I can tell you, is that you don't stand alone and here we are... MANY other women suffering with this disease. It's hard and yeah you might lose alot of confidence, and self esteem but this too shall pass. I hope everything goes well for you and truthfully I hope it goes away sooner than later. It's such an embarassing problem, and all of us are searching for a solution. We'll keep you updated! =)


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Morphia
post May 6 2007, 05:08 PM
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I BUUUUUUURN!!! God. I hope this isn't BV. I can't imagine getting stuck with burning like this for the rest of my life. :'( I'll hopefully find out tomorrow morning. God, I hope so....
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post May 6 2007, 12:36 PM
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About 4 months ago, someone came on and suggessted using the Flagyl vaginally being that WE ALL HAVE BEEN ON IT, and the B.V. always returns. So...I was the ginny pig, and I tried it. My B.V. stayed gone for almost 2 months, until I had sex again. I only use 1 500mg tablet, for two days. Any more then that, and you get a really bad yeast infection.

After sex, if my boyfriend does his business in side me, I have to use one a couple of days after, just to make sure. The Flagyl vaginally, takes the B.V. away, I think...because it goes directly to the source. That's my thoughts, not a medical educated one...which, they don't know shit either!!

I've been B.V. free now for what 4 months or so?? With a little returning after sex, because I didn't think to use one after. Now, I do, and it stays gone. (I've had B.V. going on 5yrs.)

There's not very much discharge, if you use it at night, and lay right down. Sometime during the next day, you may have a little bit of discharge come out, BUT NOTHING LIKE THE Boric Acid that runs out of you all day long.

I'm pretty sure mine is Hormone related as well, and I will be ordering the Estroil here soon, but until then, inserting the Flagyl pills vaginally, is working!!

Hope that answers your question!!
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post May 6 2007, 08:26 AM
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well i was hesitant to write on here again..but I figured a few people might benefit....I tried everything to get rid of my BV just like everyone else..nothing worked...Ive been clear now for a couple of months..and all i did was change a few habits...Im not sure which is the one that worked...but im so thankful it did..because I was constantly embarrassed and fustrated. So here is the things i changed.

My BV started when i moved (the new place only had a tub..not a shower) ...a new boyfriend...that would release inside of me...before that..I didnt let that happen....always used a condom before that as well.

here is what I changed.....I got a new place...and theres ONLY a shower here.......no tub......and I also dont let my bf release inside of me anymore....

I honestly dont know what made it go away..but those are the two things that changed at the same time it went away....I felt the same fustrations as all of you and I hope i dont jinx myself by writng this lol..but I swear....It is completely gone..im constantly thinking its gonna come back...but it hasnt.
PS: I didnt use strong perfurme or soaps in the bath....I know all the no no's ..just ..when the smell was there..I would wash sometimes 3 times a day...because it was so embarrassing.
I know that for alot of you it is hormone related..so this post obviously isnt going to mean much to you....but hopefully even one other person can find it useful...OH also i started the pill around the same time as all this happened.....but I remember the BV starting first...because ..when the smell started..I was to embarrassed to tell them why i was there..so I pretended i wanted to start the pill..and then I mentioned the smell once i was in a private office with the doctor....and Im still on the pill ..so for me i dont think the pill had anything to do with it....it was either the baths..or the bf.

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post May 5 2007, 11:51 PM
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Welcome arj75!

QUOTE(arj75 @ May 5 2007, 07:52 PM) *
Is it possible to have a yeast infection and bv at the same time?

Yes, it is. Both infections are related to the lack of lactobacillus in your vaginal flora.

QUOTE(arj75 @ May 5 2007, 07:52 PM) *
I have tried garlic, hydrogen p, yogurt, antibacterial soap ( wash with it like mf) is that bad?

Some think that washing the vagina with soap is bad - regular soap is very alkaline, and may mess up the vaginal pH balance (which you want to be as acidic as possible); and antibacterial soap is bad because it can kill the good bacteria and also make the bad bacteria more resistant. So I've been told that washing with plain water is best.

QUOTE(arj75 @ May 5 2007, 07:52 PM) *
Right before I resorted to going to the doctor I did something really stupid and douched 2 nights in a row with straight hydrogen perioxide and I made it worse.

I know how it feels to feel helpless. You sound stressed out. I know it's hard to do, but give yourself a hug and try to relax, know that it's a common condition.

I know it's discouraging, but I don't think there is a way to cure it yourself. You need to go to the doctor, especially if you're bleeding. I know you don't have health care right now, so I highly recommend that you go to Planned Parenthood. And don't douche before an exam.

Some solutions:

- The problem with antibiotics is that they kill off the bad-bacteria-overgrowth, but do nothing to help the good bacteria repopulate. My best solution has been Fem-Dophilus which is one of the only OTC products that address replenishing the lactobacillus in the vaginal flora. It has been a godsend for me. The biggest problem with it is that it's quite expensive and not available widely. (Another lactobacillus product is Gy-Natren, which I had a terrible time with and do not recommend.)

- I have also tried using the hydrogen peroxide wash, when I thought I had some mild weirdness last month. And it was helpful. But it clearly didn't help you. I also want to add that I just went to my doctor yesterday, and she told me that I shouldn't do that regularly, because commercial-grade peroxide breaks down tissue over time. (So even though you can use it as a mouthwash, you shouldn't do that every day, either.) So at best this is also a temporary solution.

- The other popular treatment in here is - boric acid capsules, which seems to work for some ladies but has not been a long-term solution (and some have gotten a skin rash from it). A product called Yeast Arrest contains boric acid, that some ladies have found helpful.

- Yet another treatment is to use the flagyl antibiotic tablets but to insert them vaginally. I hope no one minds me asking again - but **why is anyone doing this? I'm really curious. Is the flagyl not working when taken orally? Or is the metrogel not working for you? Does it dissolve completely inside? Thanks in advance.

So anyway, this is such a huge and common problem, and even doctors are clueless a lot of the time. We've each got our horror stories. But I think repleneshing the lactobacillus is the best, safest solution we've got.

So here's my suggestion:

- go to Planned Parenthood (do not douche or put anything in your vagina [yogurt, garlic, etc.] before the exam)
- tell them you've taken metronidazole before and the infection recurred twice - they may give you clindamycin instead; they may also give you diflucan for the yeast
- get some Fem-Dophilus and take it twice a day especially while you're taking the antibiotics
- perhaps give yourself a break from sex while taking the medication and give your body a chance to heal

Good luck!

-- Here's an excerpt from Prevention magazine re: Fem-Dophilus:

That may be why two Lactobacillus strains (L. reuteri and L. rhamnosus) seem to help control vaginal infections. Last year, two reports showed that a supplement combining those strains, sold as Fem-dophilus, helped get rid of bacterial vaginosis. Women taking medicine plus the supplement were twice as likely to be cured as women who took only the drug.

Another product: Primadophilus® Reuteri also contains these two Lactobacillus strains (L. reuteri and L. rhamnosus), and is a bit cheaper than Fem-Dophilus. I haven't tried it, though.


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post May 5 2007, 08:35 PM
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I was recently diagnosed with bv. But I have been suffering from it for about 2 years now. I don't have health insurance and I'm a single mom, so going to the doctor week after week, I simply can't afford. I tried to treat it on my own for several months. It comes back whenever I have sex and after my period. Right before I resorted to going to the doctor I did something really stupid and douched 2 nights in a row with straight hydrogen perioxide and I made it worse. I started having a brown discharge and bleeding after sex. I have went through 2 rounds of 96 $ x 2 of Metronidazole and it made it go away until I had sex again. While I was using the gel, I had big huge nasty ass clumps of white shit speckled with blood. Is it possible to have a yeast infection and bv at the same time? I have tried garlic, hydrogen p, yogurt, antibacterial soap ( wash with it like mf) is that bad? I tried the zinc and vitimin c combo ( but stopped when I freaked myself out about overdosing with the zinc. My boyfriend thinks I'm cheating on him because up until about 5 months ago, the fishy smell was very mild, now it is so strong, it makes me want to vomit. It's driving me crazy, I think I would rather have had been diagnosed with herpes than this shit, ( I don't have nor have I ever had an std). Has anyone been so desperate to try the products sold online..you know with the Yeah, yeah, you'll get your money back if it doesn't work... This bv is driving me insane, which may be the reason I'm having anxiety attacks on a daily basis, and now I'm on prozac. (which isn't helping either. Has anyone been cured from simply not drinking coffee anymore and by quiting smoking? Does anyone have the time to list the top ten home remendies and the amount I should use it and the number of days. I don't want to kill myself trying to treat it.
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post May 5 2007, 04:43 PM
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hey gals,

My smell is coming back and alot stronger (i had anal sex today and i think he slipped inside of me and belive you me I know all about the E.coli!) I need to go out tonight & need to "MASK" the smell. I don't wanna smell like 3 week old tuna! lol Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.


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post May 5 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 4 2007, 04:12 PM) *
Well, ladies. Just got back from the doctor. He said he saw a very scant discharge which is indicative of bv but that my irritation is indicative of yeast. I won't know for sure until I get the test results at 4:30, 1 1/2 hours from now....sad.gif I'll be back to share the bad news....
Ok....2 hours no results yet....I KNOW something is wrong with me! I just would like to know what it is! Now! NOW! I've waited long enough, DAMNIT! Grrrrr....

Alright. It is now 6:50. I guess this means that I will not know my results until MOTHER FUCKING MONDAY! GOD DAMNIT! GOD DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



doctors are really bad with things like that. did you try calling them? if i were you that's what i would have done. if you didn't call them today call them first thing on monday so you get them before they get busy. i once called a doctor on saturday and he didn't get back to me till tuesday. and then another time i went to the doctor on a tuesday because i was really sick but by the end of the week i started feeling better. but saturday i got a phone call from the doctor saying that i had strep throat. who the hell calls 5 days after you get tested for strep to tell you that you have it. what's the point?! I HATE DOCTORS. so i know how you feel. i hope you feel better and i definitely would call them monday morning. hang in there.
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post May 5 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(ilovehim @ May 4 2007, 11:54 PM) *
I decided to stop putting anything inside my pussy for a while. I think i'll give it a rest and see if by any chance it could do it's job and clear itself out like it should. Though i'm sure I have BV right now, the smell during and after sex is a good indication of it. :\ I read somewhere that YOGURT will help for a yeast infection but does nothing for a bacterial infection. Go figure!

Hydrogen Peroxide sounds tempting but i'm hesitant because i'm afraid it will cause more problems than it solves. sad.gif My cat is EXTRA sensitive. Any of you got good results?


i can tell you that i tried the hydrogen peroxide myself and it didn't cause any problems besides a little dryness. it definitely helped with the discharge and smell imediately after and lasted for about a day or two but i would have to keep doing it to keep it away. and doing that over and over again started to make me dry on the outside so i stopped. also after doing it for a while it stopped working and i still had a lot of discharge. so hydrogen peroxide does work for some people it's just that you have to keep doing it and it might make you dry.

i did the flagyl vaginally about 6 weeks ago and since then i've been using rephresh and azo yeast. some people say the rephresh doesn't work very well but it's been doing ok for me so far. every once in a while i get a hint of the bv smell but the discharge and smell are definitely nowhere near as bad as they were. i might switch to trying yeast arrest or something else but for now i'm sticking with this. i don't want to try the yeast arrest just yet because summer is around the corner and i don't want to have to worry about having stuff dripping out ot me while i'm at the beach. you just have to keep trying different things until you find what's right for you. good luck.
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post May 4 2007, 09:37 PM
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I decided to stop putting anything inside my pussy for a while. I think i'll give it a rest and see if by any chance it could do it's job and clear itself out like it should. Though i'm sure I have BV right now, the smell during and after sex is a good indication of it. :\ I read somewhere that YOGURT will help for a yeast infection but does nothing for a bacterial infection. Go figure!

Hydrogen Peroxide sounds tempting but i'm hesitant because i'm afraid it will cause more problems than it solves. sad.gif My cat is EXTRA sensitive. Any of you got good results?


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