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karategrrl
post Jan 12 2012, 08:30 AM
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Skindeep, nope, nothing wrong with wanting to show off your hot booblets AS THEY ARE! I, too, am frustrated by this BS of all the fucking padding. I once was ordering Victoria's Secret shit via phone and the sales rep kept trying to interest me in all these fucking bras, none of which, of course, came in an A cup. I kept saying, "uh, that one doesn't come in my size," "Nope, that one doesn't either..." until I was thinking, WTF lady, are you that dense?? Finally, I said, "Look, I wear an A cup and VS doesn't carry any. You DON'T HAVE ANY BRAS THAT FIT ME." We finally wrapped up the order. (They may now carry a few A cuppers. Not sure.)

But anyhoo, I HAD to share this story with you. Last night, I went to my local DSW to look for shoes. Spotted a dumbass sticker on the window of a car owned by one whom who I assume to be a dumbass. Hotrod-yellow man-car, shit dangling from the rearview mirrow. Sticker said, "I <heart> BOOBIES!" Ew. How fucking juvenile-typical.

Now, I may be totally wrong in ALL my assumptions, but I was picturing a young white male with a conditioned preoccupation with fake tits, Playboy and strippers. My response? I left a note on his windshield that said, "I <heart> COCKIES!"

Now, maybe I all I did was confuse the fuck out of someone. But whatever--I had fun, and I did something except sit there stewing at this <probable> asshat's need to profess his love of large female breasts. I imagine his bird-of-a-feather asshat friends seeing the sticker and going, "Yeah, man, hurr hurr hurr...me too, hurr hurr!" Maybe he likes small ones, who knows? Maybe the driver is really a female??? If not, I get great pleasure imagining him now confused, mentioning my note from now on whenever anyone comments on the sticker.

Hope I have inspired you all! wink.gif
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post Jan 11 2012, 05:07 PM
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"Is it wrong to actually enjoy having small breasts and wanting to show them off?"

No, it's not wrong, it's very right, and don't let the stupidity stop you from enjoying and sharing your body! I won't if you won't! Deal-io?

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post Jan 11 2012, 03:21 PM
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Hello all!!....I am here today to write about something breast related I've come across that really pissed me off.
I've recently got paid so I decided to treat myself and buy some new bras. Now I was searching for something lacy and pretty, You know quite feminine. Anyway there's the option to search bras by size so I typed in A and then all of a sudden the options were narrowed down to a page full of 'Cleavage enhancing, Ultra padded' Push up bras. Now I don't mean to be picky but WTF!? talk about trying to put girls down, I just wanted something sexy and the options were all basically telling me 'your boobs are too small make them bigger' NO THANK YOU! what is wrong with people? Is it wrong to actually enjoy having small breasts and wanting to show them off?
Fuck society and there ideals of beauty and stupid companies that try to convince you that actually you need extra padding if your breasts don't fit there ideal of beauty!...

This made me even more angry as the website I was on was a well known designer that tries to encourage confident women no matter what size and that was the last place I expected for this to happen.

Sorry for the rant I just wanted to express my annoyance with yet another thing that lets us ladies down.
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post Jan 7 2012, 07:57 PM
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Sorry to report that I ordered that swimsuit and had to return it. Looked good, but no way I could have swum in it, or in fact done anything in it besides lounge on a beach towel in one position, being VERY VERY careful about changing positions because damn, that thing did not feel like it was going to stay put where it was supposed to.

Sigh. I'd love to hear about women who've been able to make it work, though.

I ended up ordering a "minimal" coverage bikini that worked very well for swimming AND lounging.

DeeRayyy, thanks for reporting on your Dodson experience. I loved reading it. Thanks for the VS model pics too. Nice to see them au naturel instead of all conforming to artificial beauty standards.

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post Jan 4 2012, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Jan 4 2012, 08:30 PM) *
On the small boobie positive side, there's a pic in the current sale catalog of a leopard print swimsuit where the top part is an X that goes across the model's titties. The model is very small breasted and holding her arms up over her head in a way that emphasizes her LACK of cleavage in a totally sexy way. I loved it!



Found it! http://www.victoriassecret.com/ss/Satellit...name=vsdWrapper Daaaaaaaaaaamn!
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post Jan 4 2012, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(strongirl @ Jan 4 2012, 08:30 PM) *
Not only are they squeezed up in padded push-up bra's, they are airbrushed! There was one photo in the catalog recently where the poor model's belly button was over on her hip - oops! On the small boobie positive side, there's a pic in the current sale catalog of a leopard print swimsuit where the top part is an X that goes across the model's titties.


I went to the website to look at the hot swimsuit you described and instead came across this on accident http://www.victoriassecret.com/ss/Satellit...name=vsdWrapper The photoshopping they did on her chesticles looks very... odd. I'm sure she's way better au natural!
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post Jan 4 2012, 07:30 PM
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Hey DeeRayy, awesome post! Betty Dodson is a goddess! I first discovered her in the early 80's while standing in a feminist bookstore in Denver browsing books - I came upon her "Cunt Positive" collection of photographs of women's pussies. I was blown away! Since then I've read her books and spent time on her website. She's helped so many people become sex-positive (her phrasing) and orgasmic that if there is a heaven for sex therapists, she will be enjoying one continuous well-deserved orgasm forever! I love Betty Dodson! And I think her advice to you rocks!

Also awesome pics you posted there! So hot I might have to pleasure myself to them later (Betty would love that). And your attitude - about not being envious of the "forced cleavage" - is great. I agree. Not only are they squeezed up in padded push-up bra's, they are airbrushed! There was one photo in the catalog recently where the poor model's belly button was over on her hip - oops! On the small boobie positive side, there's a pic in the current sale catalog of a leopard print swimsuit where the top part is an X that goes across the model's titties. The model is very small breasted and holding her arms up over her head in a way that emphasizes her LACK of cleavage in a totally sexy way. I loved it!

Good luck with the fwb and topless experimentation! Much love to you too, and all of you on here, and wishing everyone a happy, healthy, sexy 2012!




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DeeRayy
post Jan 1 2012, 11:59 PM
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hey girls!

i just wanted to pop in since it's been kinda dead here lately. one of my new year's resolutions is (of course) to be less harsh on my body and just more positive all around because it's really easy for me to become a debbie downer when it comes to my physical appearance.

i'm really happy that i've discovered miss Betty Dodson. what an inspiration! i can't stop reading the articles on her website and watching her video blog with carlin ross (i'm honestly not a big fan of carlin because i don't think she's nearly as insightful as Betty, but then again Betty has like forty or fifty years on her). i really recommend the other young busties to check out her website- dodsonandross.com. and she's also a fellow smallie so that makes her advice even more relevant smile.gif

I've become such a regular on her website that I actually decided to submit my current boobie dilemma that I asked you guys about recently (you know, the fact that i can't take my bra off during sex) to the "ask Dr.Betty" link. well, she answered it and i really enjoyed the last sentences of her response- "Of course you can leave your bra on but frankly, I think that looks silly and actually draws more attention to what you imagine to be a flaw.C'mon girl! Off with the tit bag on to the new empowered orgasmic you." haha, and while i don't know if i can really muster up the courage to take off my bra just yet, i really appreciate her words of encouragement. i'm planning on purchasing her books as soon as i can get the money.

i also want to purchase miranda kerr's book "treasure yourself". yes, she may be a victoria's secret model and i know victoria's secret may seem like the devil to small busted women. however, she was extremely small before she had her recent kid, and had a fairly straight up and down figure so to me she's very relatable.

http://heybitch.net/wp-content/uploads/201...-topless-03.jpg

btw, that pic was taken while she was already modeling for vs, and ironically, a lot of the victoria's secret models have become small boobie beauty icons to me somewhat. i mean, they portray themselves as waaay bigger with their ridiculously padded bras and gel inserts, but a lot of them are small boobed beauties. so if you think about it some of the most lusted after women on earth are rocking the a's and b's.

examples-
candice swanepoel
alessandra ambrosio
rosie huntington-whiteley

so now i personally don't feel very envious of the forced cleavage anymore when i see a victoria's secret ad.

i'm actually pretty nervous this week. i'm coming back to university from break this weekend and i don't really know what's gonna happen with my fwb and if we're gonna continue sleeping together. but if we do i will definitely try to bare the boobies and tell you all how it goes if i do!

much love to you all and a happy new year too smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2011, 10:14 PM
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Dee - Omigosh i sooooo totally feel you about the way my booblets look when i am on my back!!! I am glad that you have reached a decision that you feel comfortable with as far as your FWB. And no, i don't think you should feel "slutty" at all. Embrace your sexuality, girl! Isn't college about experimentation anyways? wink.gif. btw, why is it when guys do those sorts of things, nobody ever has any concerns of "sluttiness"? What's up with that???

Strongirl - Hawaii??? Awesome!!!! Welcome back! And no, i am not surprised the Great Boobinis managed to escape yet again. lol. Thanks for providing a, umm... snapshot of what your vacation was like. i've never thought about the way boobs look underwater before... interesting. Glad to hear your booblets were well received, ha ha
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DeeRayy
post Dec 23 2011, 10:31 AM
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thank you for all the advice ladies! i know it's a weird problem and i guess i'm just frustrated that at nearly 20 years old i still can't be naked with anyone.

QUOTE(karategrrl @ Dec 21 2011, 07:13 AM) *
What exactly makes you feel uncomfy? (Forgive me if I missed that.) Do you think he'll laugh or be mortified, or not want you anymore? Or you just don't like the way you look at all, without your bra? Maybe getting REAL specific about what's bugging you might help you move past it.


good question, karategrrl. i honestly don't think that he'll react badly. it's just moreso that I myself don't like the way i look without a bra, especially how they flatten out so much when i'm on my back. so for me i just feel safer and, yes, more in control when i have a bra on. and since it's a casual relationship i don't feel obligated to really expose all of myself to him because, well, he doesn't really NEED to see everything. i just wanna clarify- i don't think me taking off my bra will make the experience less enjoyable for him (i haven't asked him about it but i don't think he really cares), it's just that i feel like it will make the experience less enjoyable for me because of my anxiety over the way my boobs look without a bra.


QUOTE(strongirl @ Dec 21 2011, 02:52 PM) *
I personally have had many sexual relationships that did not involve love or commitment, and in some ways I think that type of relationship is perfect for sexual experimentation, including experimentation with what is and is not comfortable. I find it easier to experiment in casual relationships and deep, long-term committed ones...it's the in-between ones that I tend to close up in (thinking "where are we here? does he love me? do I love him? what if I love him and then I make a mistake and he rejects me?").


i agree very much that casual relationships are better for sexual experimentation. yeah, my current relationship may not be the most emotionally fulfilling one but it's a fun deal for now. and during this winter break from the school year i've been really thinking about this and i've decided i'm completely fine with it. if anything i was feeling a little bit of anxiety about how what i was doing was kind of "slutty", but i've gotten over that and decided that i shouldn't feel guilty for enjoying myself, just so long as i practice safe sex.
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post Dec 21 2011, 04:52 PM
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Hellooooo sister small-busties! I'm back from Hawaii and just wanted to catch up a bit and say hit. Lots of good stuff in here as usual!

Wanted to share a funny story from my trip. I was with my bf and his two sisters and their husbands. The sisters and hubbies are about a decade older than us, around 60, and I love them all, they're just great and a lot of fun. Every day we'd all take photos then share them each night on a big screen. One day the bf and I were playing in a really cool spot where a river meets the ocean and I took my top off (as I am inclined to do) and he shot a bunch of photos of me. I didn't think a thing of it...forgetting about our nightly group photo sessions! When the time came I was like...uh...uhh...hmmm. So he explained, and they were all like, "let's see 'em!". He took the clicker from his brother-in-law so that the bro-in-law couldn't stay on them too long or switch back and forth (he's a bit of a prankster). I was nervous - but you know what? It was fine. Just not that big a deal. They were all very complimentary and not shocked and it was just sort of a non-event. Some of the shots I liked the way I looked, some not so much (warning: underwater shots show a distinct "squishing" effect on boobies, fyi). But hey, just another illustration of the fact that boobs are not the be all and end all and small ones are just fine.

DeeRayy, re. your reluctance to bare your breasts for your FWB...I think it is first and foremost a REALLY personal and individual decision, so be sure to filter any advice in here through your own comfort level before acting. I personally have had many sexual relationships that did not involve love or commitment, and in some ways I think that type of relationship is perfect for sexual experimentation, including experimentation with what is and is not comfortable. I find it easier to experiment in casual relationships and deep, long-term committed ones...it's the in-between ones that I tend to close up in (thinking "where are we here? does he love me? do I love him? what if I love him and then I make a mistake and he rejects me?"). But if you're really cool with the casual, temporary nature of this (and to me it sounds like you are but don't take my word for it, look inward) then you might consider using this as a good place to try exposing your breasts. As Karategrrl said, since you're not wearing padded bra's, he already has a fair idea of the size of your breasts and he's still interested. For all you know, he's a small-boob guy and starting to feel frustrated that you're depriving him of the complete tour. If I were you, I'd take the plunge. But I'm not you, you are, so as I said, filter that through your own comfort level.

And I agree with Karategrrl's suggestion re. getting more specific about what bothers you. That's a good idea regardless.

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post Dec 21 2011, 09:13 AM
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Such great advice here, regardless of the age of the one giving it. wink.gif

DeeRayy, let me throw out another possibiity. You spent a lot of time explaining how you feel about the "casual sex" situation, so reading between the lines it seems it's really weighing on your mind. Would you have an easier time being naked with him if it were a different (non-casual) kind of relationship? Is keeping your bra on a way for you to protect yourself (maybe from the inevitable hurt that you'll experience when you two part ways) or does it give you a feeling of control? (And I mean healthy "control"--that word has gotten a bad rap, as if wanting to have some level of control over our lives makes us into control freaks. We all have that right, and it is healthy.) And even if you've felt this level of anxiety before, with other partners, I wouldn't assume it always has to be that way, as each partner, relationship and stage you're at when you get involved brings something different to the picture.

What exactly makes you feel uncomfy? (Forgive me if I missed that.) Do you think he'll laugh or be mortified, or not want you anymore? Or you just don't like the way you look at all, without your bra? Maybe getting REAL specific about what's bugging you might help you move past it. If you're not wearing padded push-ups, I imagine he already has a really good idea what your boobies look like, and between porn and real encounters, I'm sure he's seen breasts of all shapes and sizes before and he is still hot enough for you to sleeping with you. Just another thought which I hope is comforting. wink.gif

You've got some great things here others have provided to think about. Only YOU know what's best for you. We'll support you as you figure out what that is. wink.gif xxoo
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post Dec 16 2011, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(DeeRayy @ Dec 10 2011, 07:06 PM) *
That does sound better than just ripping off the band aid. The thing is, it's not really his reaction that i'm scared of. It's just that I myself am still not comfortable enough with my own breasts to show them to anyone else. I mean, we're already having sex and i don't wear push up bras or anything so i know my bra size probablyh isn't that big of a deal to him. i just really don't feel emotionally ready to show them to anyone, and i have a feeling that even if he did offer me reassurance that i still wouldn't believe him. this video really explains the phenomenon that's going on with me here (it's very 90's, haha, but what she's saying is SO true). she basically says that when you've believed such negative thoughts about your body for so long it becomes impossible to allow someone else to tell you otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cAUp397N8...feature=related


Yeah... that makes sense. Unfortunately I don't see any magic "cure" here.  I guess the best remedy here is ... time. Yes, i know, lame answer! But seriously it will be a process as with a lot of us here and our separate issues. But i am sure that it will take finding that special someone - the one that loves you inside and out, who appreciates everything that you are. smile.gif But really you have to learn to love yourself though... that's where things get real tricky huh? i can speak from personal experience on that one...
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post Dec 10 2011, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(skindeep1991 @ Dec 10 2011, 03:01 AM) *
I do think you should just mention it though as I think he needs some sort of understanding because he could be thinking the worst case scenario like i would be thinking and he could think that you're scarred or something else.


well the thing is, i AM kinda scarred. i don't think you were a member yet when i first came to the thread, skindeep, but the event that triggered me to come onto this thread was a bad experience with an ex. i've basically moved on from that but i still carry a lot of emotional baggage when it comes to men, sex and my boobs.

i do think you have a point though when you say that women in general can't really have sex without becoming emotionally attached. i don't really feel extremely attached to him but i do feel some amount of affection, and i do somewhat care about him. i'm not expecting a relationship to form from this, since he is a senior and is graduating from university this year. he's also 24 while i'm only 19 so there's a bit of an age gap there. so realistically i know that this probably isn't going anywhere, but it's nice for the time being.


QUOTE(KeraBear @ Dec 10 2011, 02:25 PM) *
What about baby steps? First, have him play with them with your shirt and bra on. Then as you gain confidence, remove the shirt. Then when you see how he isn't completely mortified- take another baby step... and so on. smile.gif


That does sound better than just ripping off the band aid. The thing is, it's not really his reaction that i'm scared of. It's just that I myself am still not comfortable enough with my own breasts to show them to anyone else. I mean, we're already having sex and i don't wear push up bras or anything so i know my bra size probablyh isn't that big of a deal to him. i just really don't feel emotionally ready to show them to anyone, and i have a feeling that even if he did offer me reassurance that i still wouldn't believe him. this video really explains the phenomenon that's going on with me here (it's very 90's, haha, but what she's saying is SO true). she basically says that when you've believed such negative thoughts about your body for so long it becomes impossible to allow someone else to tell you otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cAUp397N8...feature=related
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post Dec 10 2011, 04:25 PM
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You are right, i do recommend to just "rip off the bandaid" so to speak - the next time you are together just abandon all your fears and rip off your shirt and bra. Witness his delight and voila! Problem solved. But i know, i know... it's not that easy... as you've already said. So forget that.

What about baby steps? First, have him play with them with your shirt and bra on. Then as you gain confidence, remove the shirt. Then when you see how he isn't completely mortified- take another baby step... and so on. smile.gif

Skindeep raises an interesting question though... is it possible to be invested in a sexual relationship without emotion entering into it? hmm... i dunno. I've never had a "FWB" myself, but I would have to say it would be hard not to on at least some small level. I agree with Skindeep though in that you shojld talk to him about it. He probably knows something is up anyways. I think it would make you feel better getting it off your chest (pardon the expression!).

But judging from the fact that you've even entertained the thought that maybe you are not ready for this means that there is at least something to it.

Sorry.... that's all I've got. I'm only 19, after all! smile.gif
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QUOTE(DeeRayy @ Dec 10 2011, 09:50 AM) *
hey girls,

I wanted to hear some thoughts on a certain bedroom problem i'm having. As I've written before, I still can't take off my bra (or shirt, for that matter) in front of my current sexual partner. He's asked me to get completely naked about twice but saw how uncomfortable I was with the idea and doesn't ask anymore. We haven't actually talked about it so he doesn't know about my issues with my boobs and how crippling they can be sometimes. I'm currently home from winter break so I will not be seeing him for a few weeks. So my question is- how should I proceed from this point? Should I just do nothing and leave the subject un-discussed? Should I talk to him about it, and if so, how should I go about doing so? Our relationship is pretty casual (it's almost strictly physical) so I feel like it would be a bit much to talk about such a personal issue and expect emotional support from him. Or should I just take a break from the whole casual sex thing for a while? I really enjoy the sex, but I feel like if I can't be naked with another person then I'm probably not emotionally ready/healthy enough to be having sex (especially casual sex). For instance, one time when I had slept over he thought it would be fun to shower together the next morning, but when he proposed the idea to me I was literally frozen with anxiety at the mere thought of having to take my clothes off in front of him, especially in daylight in the bathroom. Yet I had just had sex with him the night before. This no strings attached relationship has its perks and regular sex has great benefits, both mentally and physically, but i"m starting to question whether or not i can really handle it.

so what's your take on this, guys? i know a lot of you are probably thinking "why not just take it off and see his reaction?" but it's really not a possibility for me at the moment- it's just too triggering.


What I can suggest is that you should talk to him about it. Just explain casually though don't go into it unless he asks but I'd just explain 'no I don't really like my breasts' and leave it at that. He might let it go and carry on as normal or he might ask about it.
Another point I'd like to make is you're saying that you guys don't speak about any personal issues or need emotional support but do you know if that's what he wants?...how would you feel if he got a girlfriend?...my thoughts are as females even if we don't want to a lot of us tend to get emotionally attached through sex, so the no-strings relationship doesn't really work well. Well that's unless you think otherwise but if you tell him whats the worst that can happen? he's either going to agree and be like 'oh ok I won't ask again sorry' or he's going to ask you more personal questions and possibly speak about feelings with you and what he thinks of your appearance....It really just depends on what you're willing to answer. I do think you should just mention it though as I think he needs some sort of understanding because he could be thinking the worst case scenario like i would be thinking and he could think that you're scarred or something else.
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post Dec 10 2011, 04:50 AM
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hey girls,

I wanted to hear some thoughts on a certain bedroom problem i'm having. As I've written before, I still can't take off my bra (or shirt, for that matter) in front of my current sexual partner. He's asked me to get completely naked about twice but saw how uncomfortable I was with the idea and doesn't ask anymore. We haven't actually talked about it so he doesn't know about my issues with my boobs and how crippling they can be sometimes. I'm currently home from winter break so I will not be seeing him for a few weeks. So my question is- how should I proceed from this point? Should I just do nothing and leave the subject un-discussed? Should I talk to him about it, and if so, how should I go about doing so? Our relationship is pretty casual (it's almost strictly physical) so I feel like it would be a bit much to talk about such a personal issue and expect emotional support from him. Or should I just take a break from the whole casual sex thing for a while? I really enjoy the sex, but I feel like if I can't be naked with another person then I'm probably not emotionally ready/healthy enough to be having sex (especially casual sex). For instance, one time when I had slept over he thought it would be fun to shower together the next morning, but when he proposed the idea to me I was literally frozen with anxiety at the mere thought of having to take my clothes off in front of him, especially in daylight in the bathroom. Yet I had just had sex with him the night before. This no strings attached relationship has its perks and regular sex has great benefits, both mentally and physically, but i"m starting to question whether or not i can really handle it.

so what's your take on this, guys? i know a lot of you are probably thinking "why not just take it off and see his reaction?" but it's really not a possibility for me at the moment- it's just too triggering.
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OMG, I can't wait to see this documentary when it comes out on DVD.

http://missrepresentation.org/
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post Dec 7 2011, 06:10 PM
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No matter what your size, you're most welcome here if you're looking for (pardon the pun) support, and to feel great about yourself! wink.gif You will find an outstanding group of intelligent, witty ladies here. Please feel free to express whatever you need to. <hugs>


I second this!! I hope you didn't take my comment as in you aren't welcome here. Far from my intent! smile.gif The common thread here is improving body image.
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