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post Nov 23 2009, 10:07 PM
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nbdx - good for you for standing up to your Mom! And yay for new undies smile.gif

cleavage - um yeah, put me down as a skinny boob bump "cleavage". I *can* get my boobs to touch, IF I lie down on my side with my arms in certain positions (otherwise the lower one sinks into my armpit the joys of aging!). But seriously it's not a very sexy position to be in and very unnatural looking! Also if your ex had bigger boobs than you then that just means he was fat *sticks tongue out and blows raspberry* Ha! Take that Fatty! When my man puts on weight he gets moobs (man boobs) and we've laughed that his were bigger than mine. They were but they also sagged and had no shape. And hello you've put tons of weight on (car wreck, pain killers and no exercise while his back recovered)!

Kate Hudson - ok before that article I had total respect for her, but to hear she even thinks about implants both releives me and disgusts me at the same time. Conflicted here. I look up to women like her, it means I'm normal. It means I can acheive anything because here are these kick ass women making names for themselves with small boobies in a plastic world! I dunno, I really hope she doesn't get implants EVER. She's a roll model for millions of girls out there with small breasts, do you think celebs realize this when they fake themselves?

Starship - yep the photoshopping is totally out of hand, and yes they look like cartoons. But then thats what some women seriously look like now. With all the fake blonde hair, fake tan, fake enormous boobs, fake faces and more botox than Joan Rivers. Some of them look frankly ridiculous. I mean there is NO WAY some of these women have seen their belly buttons/coochie/feet in a long time other than looking in a mirror. And this is what young guys of today are jacking off to? No wonder girls have self esteem and body issues!

Also on an unrelated note, in that article starship posted did anyone look at Nicole Kidman? Wow can she not move her face anymore? Serious lift, peel and botox goin on there I think! I heard she had implants too, though can't tell from that pic. I thought she was a smallie though? Could be push up bra I guess

Strongirl - you BF forms an interesting point! But without knowing what part of the brain was stimulated by the images years ago we can't form a correlation either way. Maybe they've always reacted that way, or maybe it's a learned behavior due to the photoshopping and faking of women? Also I think it would depend on whether they were thinking of the women sexually or with a view to a relationship. men as we know tend to have problems controlling their sexual parts wink.gif so I think also there is some element of "don't think of her like that, you'll get an erection" so maybe that has something to do with it too? They are just stimulating a certain part of their brain in order not to get a hard on? Also on the flipside, if they've always had this stimulation of the brain (and we can't say for sure either way) then maybe it's a primal issue, we're meant to mate and men were ones to do the copulating with multiple women, perhaps it stems from that in order not to form multiple attachments?

Wow rambling and LONG post. I should be packing, lol!
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post Nov 23 2009, 09:20 PM
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Wow, too many great posts in here to even digest properly! What an incredible, intelligent, insightful group of powerful women y'all are!!!!

It's almost like there's a phenomenon in this forum where amazing women have attracted other amazing women and now we've got this rockin' group that's just in a synergistic groove! I stand back in awe.

nbdx, my bf also has great pecs and more lying down cleavage than I do. And I also get that in-between skin ridge you describe, when I'm at my low boobage times of the month. But neither my bf nor I are bothered by any of this. We both like our own and each other's stuff, so it's all good. I doubt your bf has any issues with it, so you should just let it go. Poof! Good-bye, silly issue.

Spot-on, YAY! for you on pointing out how good it is to compliment other women. I do it too and I love it when it is done to me. It can help one make a HUGE mental shift from viewing other women as "competitors" to viewing them as our sisters and friends. It's such a great thing to do, not just to make someone else feel good but for your own mental health as well, to come from a position of generosity and kindness.

On the photoshopping, a while back I saw some study where they hooked men up to MRI's and showed that men's brains reacted to looking at photos of models in bikini's as if they were looking at inanimate objects. The article was basically saying "see, men view women as sex objects". But when I mentioned it to my bf, he disagreed and said that maybe the reason they reacted that way is that the women had been implanted and photoshopped to the point that they WERE inanimate objects! That on some level, the men realize that these women are not real and their brain waves reflect that. I thought that was a very interesting point.





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post Nov 23 2009, 08:09 PM
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Hey Starship, I feel you. I think Kate Hudson's dress is very pretty on her, and she looks presentable for an awards ceremony. That's exactly how I would look in that dress, too. It really bothers me that they chose the worst photo of her as the article's cover-shot. She's a very pretty girl. I also can't stand the way they write about small breasts. She handles the talk so well. She's my hero! It's celebrities like her who are helping out women from doing harm. I posted a comment on that site, giving my opinion.

As for the wrath of moms, I go out of my way to make myself ooze confidence. When I see her, I wear my bralette with a pretty shirt. Then, I turn up the charm and the smiles. She'll stare at my chest the entire time, and make some well-meaning compliments/advice, and I don't listen to her at all. No acknowledgement,no back-talk, nothing. She says what she wants to say and goes "you know?" "...you know?" "....I'm just trying to help, you know?" And I'll just smile. When she changes the topic, that's when I start talking again. It's my way of standing firm about my decision to refuse implants. I refuse to let her see me sad. Because if she sees me sad she says she'll call up her old doctor and pay for my consultation, or some other BS. What helps me out the most is to flash my well-endowed smile. But it can be hard sometimes, to see such disapproval. It's the only way I can get her to STFU.

She might push harder, my mom got me a VS gift card and (in front of my boyfriend) said "You can get a nice push-up bra, they make the best ones" and I said "I can't fit into VS bras" (they don't stock AA's at their store, from what I've seen they're online only) "...but I can get a ton of super-cute undies and fragrance" *Thumbs up from the boyfriend accompanied by a big smile" Every 'negative' is made positive. And the best part is that it will make you feel better because you're 1.) standing up to a bully and 2.) you're using positive reinforcement.

I run into the frustrating issue of my boyfriend having larger 'breasts' than me. I've had this issue twice before. One used it to his advantage when we broke up and told all his buddies. The other didn't care at all and thought I have a great body. When my boyfriend lays on his side in bed he has 'cleavage.' I don't even have cleavage by laying on my side! If I try to push my breasts together, I have a long, skinny little 'hill' where the 'valley is supposed to be'. So, for me, it's boob ---> skin bump ---> boob. I can't help but stare at his chest at night. So...jealous...

Has anybody else had this issue? My current BF isn't heavy like the other two...it's because he's got great pecs. I really don't mean to make such long posts.
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post Nov 23 2009, 06:22 PM
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I know my mothers wrong that all celebs get it done and i know that if I can make some sort of cleavage then it's not gonna be hard for someone with a natural b-c cup to do it, heck ive seen for myself paris hilton's boobs going up and down like nobodys business. She didnt seem to believe me though. i dunno what issues she has herself but shes alwayss commenting on peoples breasts- seriously, if we're talking about a photo of someone or an outfit theyre wearing or even just someone we havent seen for a while, its always the boobs she seems to remark on. drives me insane. and the worst thing is is that i know there are other people out there who think like her too (regarding her stance on boobjobs as a necessity). I mean, just look at this article from today- http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar...-cut-dress.html ...the way it says she wears low tops 'despite' her small chest, as though she should be busting out the polo-neck all year round cos theres nothing to see here folks. and how it focuses on the fact that she hasnt had breast enlargement yet like its a suprise that she didnt head to the surgeons office with her first paycheck and get it sorted pronto. This whole kind of attitude reminds me exactly of the things my mother says and how she thinks. Even when it's not said outright theres all these underlying implications and assumptions. I think my she's just another sad victim of the media, swallowing everything they churn out without even questioning it.

some of the photoshop stuff you've all been talking about actually suprised me. I looked on one of youtube the links that spot-on gave and ended up watching lots of 'related' videos showing photoshop transformations of perfectly normal women into oversexualised non-human creations. probably videos made by the same sort of desperate guys who sit at home getting off over anime porn (no offence to anyone who's into anime porn unsure.gif ). the end results were literally just cartoons and i expected to read lots of comments saying how ridiculous it was but instead there were plenty of pwoars and wows and other comments to the general efffect of 'my, what a great improvement youve made there'. sometimes i feel like banging my head against the desk. or perhaps just someone elses head. I think overtime things are only gonna get worse for 'normal' women in this sense, like youve all pointed out with the photoshopped movies n stuff- things are getting crazy and some people are completely losing a grip of reality, because they hardly ever get to see it!

Buttercups I agree with everyone who's said youve come really far and made loads of progress! everyone has bad days, I usually just come on here to talk it through with these wise women and let out all my insecurities, then put it to the back of my mind and try hard not to let it consume all my thoughts. Im totally with you buttercups on the 'if i have a daughter..' thing. ill definately be learning from my mothers mistakes and i think that because ive had these issues and ended up talking to you guys ive become so much more educated on the issue of body image and learnt so much. hope i dont sound like a traitor here though, but i really hope any daughters dont get thier boobs from me. i mean, no matter how supportive id be i still wouldnt be able to hide them from all the boob-orientated media out there and they'd probably end up going through a similar sort of battle as most of us have done. Have any of you busties had daughters and had to deal with these issues with them?

I saw the episode of Will&Grace this morning where grace gets a water bra to impress some guy she thinks is only into boobs and ends up springing leaks all other place biggrin.gif. i love watching that show. it's nice to see that 'one of us' can poke fun at herself and still stand proud and confident (and braless) afterwards, totally unfazed

angie-21 you're awesome:)
as are all you ladies:)smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2009, 12:38 PM
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Yay Angie for getting hit on! I do find that there is a big portion of men that like the natural and athletic look so it doesn't surprise me on bit that they found you attractive! It sounded like you were comfortable in what you were wearing and probably feeling confident because of that, and relaxed after finishing the exam! You go girl!

Yep movies are just insane now, not only with the make-up, lighting etc but now with photoshop. It's crazy. There are laws going through in the UK to try and stop PS on ads aimed at minors, and to disclose PS on other ads. It's kinda ironic to me that ads for wrinkle creams etc have the wrinles PS'd out of the models. So not right and I am totally agreeing that something needs to be done. More awareness of PS and before and after photo sites will help but we need full disclosure of the stuff that is done on ads so young girls realize what they are looking at isn't real.

they brush out the freckles cos we're all meant to have perfect flawless skin, be blonde with big boobs, have full hair, no wrinkles, and nothing out of the ordinary. Which would make us all stepford women! I am far from that thank heavens!

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post Nov 22 2009, 10:58 AM
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spot-on, I just looked at the first set of before and after photos, and I have to say, why one earth did they airbrush away those girls' beautiful freckles?! that is just kinda sad.
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post Nov 22 2009, 10:50 AM
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((buttercups)) like enfemera said, you're doing great!

Sport-on, it's even worse now that they have the budgets to photoshop movies not just for special effects, but also for people's appearances. My guy says he hates watching high budget movies these days because the actresses are hot, but they're so photoshopped it's like you're watching a cartoon and you're supposed to think it's sexy (also he hates the movies because well, they just generally suck, but this was a reason too lol). He always prefers the girls in the old style movies where every girl actually looked different, and you were supposed to see her personality. yes, that's right, he's a guy and he thinks personality is more important to attractiveness than physical looks. gasp. I just wish there weren't all the other people out there who do buy into that stuff. Also, I loooove PS disasters! so funny.

well last night I went out after writing an exam I've been studying for weeks to write, and decided to celebrate. I went straight after the exam, no make up, no push-up bra, and still wearing my t-shirt and sneakers, but still ended up with a guy at the bar asking for my number. I also discovered I'm a lot older than I used to be, because I used to be just entertained and flattered by the guys who try to dance too close, and now I just feel awkward and a bit annoyed. Honestly, a girl can't dance with her friends without it being assumed she's just waiting for a guy to come up and grind with her? and to think I used to roll my eyes when some of my friends complained about this 5 years ago.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:06 PM
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Yep I loved that article too Aithinne. It just really bugs me when women hold themselves to a standard that isn't achievable because it isn't real. Unless you go for extreme repeated plastic surgery it's not going to happen. They are taking thin models and making them thinner? WTF? Unless women are going to have ribs removed it's just not happening naturally! Almost every photo we see is photoshopped in some way, whether just lighting, evening out skin tones or the digital implants, teeth whitening, and instant diet, etc In that article Jamie Curtis said it took 13 people THREE HOURS to make her look that way!!! Yeah and THEN they'd photoshop the photo after! Wow! No wonder women have body issues sad.gif
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post Nov 21 2009, 05:55 PM
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This is why I totally loved Jamie Lee Curtis' photoshoot when she was photographed exactly how she looks. It's so refreshing to see something real in the media. Props to women in the media who are the real "what you see is what you get" types.
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:24 PM
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spot on, those photos pre-Photoshop usually make me feel good to see. I like seeing that the stars have wrinkles, bags under their eyes, freckles, softness in various body places, and this more human and natural look than what ends up in the finished photo. Some look tired in the pictures, so I can see why they'd clean them up, but it's refreshing to see some ladies with lumps and bumps and spots.

buttercups, I love reading your posts, you're so insightful and interesting and special. Thank you so much for your kind words, it really touched me.
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post Nov 21 2009, 01:04 PM
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Thank you so much ladies, you really don't know how much you are my life-line. All of your words mean so much to me and I really do think of them often and remember everything you say. You Busties have changed my life for the better and really make me want to work hard towards changing how I think about myself, so for that I can't thank you enough.

Starship, you sound amazingly hot to me. I'm always surprised at how much the grass is always greener and how we all seem to want something we don't have. For me I would love to be bigger and taller and have small boobs. I've always thought that if I wasn't this size then at least people would know I was a grown adult haha. I've seen a lot of taller, small breasted girls and I am always envious of them! My brother-in-law's cousin is not this itty bitty petite short girl and almost has breasts as small as me and I look at her in awe because she is absolutely stunning, as I know you are too. Everything falls so beautifully on her frame and not once would you look at her and not find her to be a gorgeous woman. Men fall all over themselves for her, so I guess I've always thought that some extra inches and a bigger bone structure would do wonders for me. But thank you so much for your kind words and you should know that there are plenty of girls (me definitely included) who would love to look like you! I also want to say congrats on speaking up when your mom said that about the celebrity. God I can completely relate to how you feel when she says things like that. My mom is definitely into looks and we can't even sit through a whole tv show together without her commenting on everyone's body. I think it's really great you stood up to her instead of staying silent, hopefully she will get the message soon that her comments are hurtful. Maybe we can give our mothers a lesson of their own. I've already decided that if I have a daughter I'm definitely going to tell her that she's beautiful, but I'm not going to fixate on her looks either and I'm going to make sure she knows that there is much more to her than her appearance. And the one thing I am never going to do is act insecure or comment negatively about my body around my daughter. My mom has always said bad things about herself around me, and still does even though I told her to stop, and it makes me feel worse about myself whenever I hear her call herself fat or whatever else she says. We can definitely be different for our daughters and instill positive messages. whoa..what a rant!

Angie21, that is so insightful I will definitely take your suggestion and try to write down where those feelings are coming from. I too have noticed that I feel worse about my body when I am stressed or when things just aren't going right. It's like I take all of my anger and frustrations out on this poor body. Thank you so much for being so encouraging, you really make me consider things differently.

Spot-on, you are so adorable and uplifting. You are really sweet to try to say nice things to everyone, I know you really made those girls' day like you make mine : ) And of course you're getting checked out, I can tell from your fantastic personality that you are one hot commodity!

Nbdx0645, I can really relate to you. A lot of your posts definitely remind me of myself. You are so sweet, thank you so much. I know you're right that not all women like the same thing ( I'm not into muscle men myself haha) so why should we think that all men are? The "sex meltdown" is awful and I really hope that you aren't experiencing that anymore. Getting wonderful posts from people like you is really going to help me keep those feelings at bay.

Anna K, you are always so sweet and I can tell you are such a kind-hearted, warm person. Anyone would be lucky to have a friend like you and I hope that everyone in your life appreciates you as much as us Busties do.

Enfermera, thank you so much for being so encouraging. I have felt like I've been failing a lot lately at defeating this problem, but you really made me re-think that. Thank you for noticing a change in me and for making me feel like I have made some progress and I can keep going. It really means a lot.

I don't know where I would be without this forum, but I think I can say with some certainty it would not be pretty. All of you are an inspiration to me and I hope I can get over this and help some other girls just like you've all been helping me. You all rock!

<3 always, buttercups
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post Nov 21 2009, 12:07 PM
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See though Angie this is part of the problem. The celebs in films and ads etc look NOTHING like that in real life! In films they adapt lighting, make up etc to flatter the celebs, in ads and mags there is photoshop! If anyone has checked out photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com they'll know of the stuff I talk about. Where celebs are airbrushed within an inch of their life, where size 4 models are made to look thinner and taller beyond all recognition of a real human woman (ralph lauren ad)! Celebs are given flawless skin, thinner bodies, bigger boobs, more fuller hair, whiter teeth and eyes and goodness knows what else!

For those wondering the power of photoshop check out these links:

Mad PS skills: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd1VV9caAYk

Celebs before and after: http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebritie...fter-photoshop/
more before/after: http://current.com/1n8hm4c

and the dove one naturally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFlxSlOKNI...feature=related

What we see as an end result isn't what the people look like IRL. No wonder women have a distorted body image when we're competing with artificial breasts and artificial images that the media portrays! I'd like to go back in time and uninvent photoshop and implants, I think the world was a happier place then!


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One thing that is true, is that it is those celebrities "job" to look beautiful 24/7, but it sure the fuck isn't my job, so why should I try to do the same thing? I'm not getting paid to look good - or at least, "good" in the way that they look. I think I look just fine myself. They get paid to look "beautiful" in magazine ads for hair dye and make-up and perfume, but I have to pay to try to look like them. It's celebrities jobs to sell us that body image so that we will covet a certain way of appearance and pay money for it. Well fuck that.

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post Nov 21 2009, 11:34 AM
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I actually think the reason I've been checked out a few times this past week is my confidence went up, I carried myself differently, felt good in the clothes I wore and that just radiated out. I think I smile more to myself when I am feeling more confident in myself and that attracts attention also.

One thing I've started doing recently is when I see a woman who I think looks good, I tell them! We women don't hear it often enough from other women! I've told two women in the last couple of days that they look pretty in what they were wearing (they had great tops on). One was small chested, one not, both looked great in the clothes they were wearing. They could be a bustie for all I know, they could have depression issues, I like to think I made their day a little happier and made them feel better about themselves, even if just for 5 minutes smile.gif It's my new mission. Plus it helps my own self confidence, actually approaching strangers in an intimate fashion outside my usual comfort zone. My gameplan is to also compliment small boobed ladies that I admire and think look good when I see them rather than just looking in awe at their hotness! Imagine if it were one of us and we didn't know. Or they didn't know how hot they looked! All women have insecurities whatever their boob size, hair color, or body shape. If I can help them feel better then great! Pay it forward I say!
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post Nov 21 2009, 11:32 AM
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yes, exactly what enfemera said! Just remember, don't be too hard on yourself for how you feel, because that's how bad feelings snowball into a bit of a meltdown. Enfemera, I'm only 5'7 but it's all in my legs and I think I'd still feel gangly if I was 300 pounds. But while I'm being clumsy and tripping over things and feeling funny looking, everyone else is telling me how jealous they are of my long legs. It's a funny world.

I meant to comment on this earlier, starship, but you seem so smart and so sweet and I am so happy you are able to ignore what your mom says. It must get so aggravating. Like sport on said though, your mom is wrong about celebrities, but people choose to see what they want to believe sometimes. It sounds like your mom wants to believe these celebrities are all fake. to a certain extent it's true, but even as much as we complain about it, there's a lot of physical variation even in the very limited movie/fashion world. I think it's a much more valid complaint that there's still so little ethnic and cultural variation in today's entertainment industry, but that's for another discussion. but it's just too bad that your mom keeps pushing her own insecurities onto you.

(sorry if my language offends anyone, but I think we're all grown ups here and I do feel stongly about this.... ) One thing that is true, is that it is those celebrities "job" to look beautiful 24/7, but it sure the fuck isn't my job, so why should I try to do the same thing? I'm not getting paid to look good - or at least, "good" in the way that they look. I think I look just fine myself. They get paid to look "beautiful" in magazine ads for hair dye and make-up and perfume, but I have to pay to try to look like them. It's celebrities jobs to sell us that body image so that we will covet a certain way of appearance and pay money for it. Well fuck that.
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post Nov 21 2009, 10:33 AM
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buttercups, just wanted to add my two cents. YOU HAVE REAL BOOBS. even at less than a AA cup, they are both real, and boobs. they are yours, and i bet they are beautiful, even if you don't always think so. if you went and got implants, then your boyfriend DEFINITELY wouldn't be touching real boobs. also this: you DO look like a woman, because you ARE a woman. from the way you describe yourself, petite with a rounded tummy, to me you sound like the fertile-looking, feminine ideal that thin, gangly people like myself (which is how i feel on MY bad days) can only dream of.

and like tree said, your bf wouldn't be around if he didn't find you attractive.

i think we all could benefit from working on stopping those negative thoughts before they run away with us. on the other hand, look at how far you've come! when you first started posting here (yeah, i was lurking for a looooooong time before i ever made a profile) you seemed to have almost NO positive self-image, at least in regards to your breasts, and if i remember correctly, these meltdowns happened with much more frequency. you've really done a lot of work since then, and made a lot of progress! don't be discouraged, babe. everyone has days like these. keep your chin up, and don't rule out therapy, you might find yourself ready for it some day.
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post Nov 21 2009, 09:37 AM
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Buttercups, I agree with everyone here. You sound like a charming, beautiful young woman, so smart and funny and intriguing.

nbdx0645, I get nervous around new people too. I smile and act confident and engaged, but feel like inside they can sense my shy nerdiness, so I try to cover it up with brevity and confidence.

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On a side note I have been "checked out" a few times within the past week by guys


Woo-hoo, spot on!

Tree, that was such a great post. I wholeheartedly agree. When you have confidence, you have power, and just become magnetic and irresistable.
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post Nov 21 2009, 12:00 AM
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Buttercups, I really hope you're feeling better. I've totally been there with the "sex meltdown" thing. I'd get so nervous and upset I'd run off and apologize for the way I looked. If you feel like a professional opinion would help you develop a plan of action, you should go for it. Sometimes real life can feel insurmountable, but we're here for you. This might sound a bit rough, but we all know there are people out there who think that we should get "some D's slapped on us" ...but there are many, many people that want your breasts, and scour the internet looking for small boobs. (Delicious Flat Chest, tiny ta-ta's, adorable assets) To some, our breast size will be out of their 'ideal zone.' To others, we're in the 'goldilocks zone' (they're juuust right.)

I do agree with Spot-on. Bad clothes will RUIN YOUR DAY.

I don't have a full grasp on my own issues. I get very nervous when I'm around new people, and like starship, I get really wishy-washy when I am dealing with other stressors. Sometimes I feel like I'd be able to ingratiate better with larger breasts. I wish I could check "tittyfuck" off my to-do list. I've never heard that I have great boobs from my partners (without me soliciting for compliments) and that used to get me down. I try to relate the preferences other people have to my preferences with men. It is assumed that girls like muscle-men, but I do not. I like something different from the perceived norm. It doesn't make me weird, and it doesn't make that other person weird for not following after every body else. I really and truly believe that many guys (and girls) are telling us the truth. I also understand it's not just about validation...but it's something to think about. I also think they get tired of re-assuring us that we have very desirable tits, and the only reason why many of them want to change our breasts is because they see how much shame and sadness we go through.

I feel so much better since I joined this forum. It gave me a new perspective. I thought I was hopeless about all this. I hope this post helped. Please, don't be your worst enemy.
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Wow Starship I hate to say this but does your Mom have body issues herself? It seems like she isn't supportive of you at all, and often saying stuff like this when you are around. They don't ALL get it done at all! Look at all the small busted celebs we've posted here recently and know about

Mila Jovovich
Ali Larter
Keirra Knightly (like the #2 earning actress last year I believe so it isn't hurting her any with her small boobs!)
Cameron Diaz
Paris Hilton
Nicole Richie
Michelle Pfieffer
Julia Styles
Debra Messing
Kate Hudson
Clare Danes
Charleze Theron
Selma Blair
Gwynth Paltrow
Sarah Michelle Geller
Kirsten Dunst
Gwen Steffani (though ballooned during preg)
porn stars mentioned here recently
etc

Clothes are meant to look better on smallies that's why they use small chested models to model them!

It is so hard to tell now though whether someone has or hasn't had fluff bags added, esp with the newer push up increase your boobs 2 cup sizes bra's. Unless the celebs are naked or not wearing much I doubt we'd really know! Some implants are obviously fake, some not so much. Most of the 'normal' size ones though are just push up bra's I think.


QUOTE(starship @ Nov 20 2009, 04:40 PM) *
The other day my mother said how she definatly thought a partic celeb had had a boobjob and when i said she hadnt (i thought it was clearly just a pair of nice sized natural boobs with a decent push-up bra) she was like 'no she's definately had them done, its part of her job, they all get it done to look good and sexy in all the costumes & dresses they have to wear, it makes them look better' etc etc etc. i cant remember her exact words but i know i found them quite cutting... i did better this time and managed to tell her i disagree (as opposed to my usual reaction of sitting silently in utter disbelief). geez mum. she'd probably try to buy me 'better' boobs if she could. you guys are my positive female rolemodel when it comes to body issues.

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post Nov 20 2009, 08:39 PM
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I had a reply but then TH said everything so perfectly I was just repeating so yeah Ditto what she said smile.gif

*gentle slap upside the head*

I know how you feel, I was there a week ago and have just started to come back to "loving me land". It's much nicer on there rather than "depression city". My boobs rock.

Seriously I am convinced that 80% of my self image issues are clothing related. I've been totally wearing the wrong clothes and wondering why I got depressed! I need to clear out my closet of anything not "junior style" and go from there. I've come to the conclusion that clothing can make or break our body image so I am making myself over. I tried on some tops today, tube type tops, and they look f'ing Great on our body shape! There was also a fitted dress same style and that looked good too! Like TH said I just felt more confident in what I was wearing and my posture changed and so I thought I looked better. In 'womens' clothing/tops the chest area sags where I don't fill it, then the waist is all flapping. In Juniors the chest area fits and the waist is tapered. I fill out a blouse in the juniors - I have never filled out a blouse, but the juniors FITS, it's more fitted across the bust area so it looks fuller because it's smaller rather than gaping smile.gif

On a side note I have been "checked out" a few times within the past week by guys
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post Nov 20 2009, 07:43 PM
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buttercups, I don't want to smack you lol. yes it is good to talk, and it is good to let those feelings out, and that is one of the reasons we are here. We're also here to tell you, you don't have to feel this way about yourself. But here's what I want you to do:

think about how you are feeling, and why. think about the things that trigger these thoughts, when they happen to you, and how your thought patterns spiral or crash into this kind of self-anger. if you need to, write it down to help yourself see the pattern. Try to avoid the things that trigger you, or to at least recognize them so that you will be able to consciously stop them from hurting you as much.

second, realise that it is OK and normal to have days when you just feel crappy about how you look. everyone has those days, I do, and often the reasons for my physical self esteem to go in the toilet are actually connected to anxiety about other things happening in my life. when I feel good, I also feel good about my body, and it's also easy to realize that it doesn't matter what my body looks like anyways. when I feel bad, or when I've just done something stupid, it's easy to tear apart my actions, my clothing choices, my thoughts and my stomach/breasts/weird eyebrows. It does happen, but the key is to recognize that you're feeling this way, and then let it go. Move on. You're judging yourself twice by first judging your size and then also judging your own feelings.

And thirdly, *slap* silly girl, you are beautiful, I know you're smart, and I know you're very sweet. Don't let the world get you down! You can and do have so much! Believe me, not all guys want a girl with gozongas. They just don't. The things you are letting yourself believe are not true, so don't let size be your scale for judging yourself, your beauty, or your value to the world.
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