[Lotus0910]

Knorl~ This was at Summerotica at Severance gallery near Eastern Market.. cool place! Even cooler if you were there; what a small world

Ladies, let me just say again that I am so happy to have found this forum. What a great outlet for all of us who have, no doubt, all shared similar experiences. We rock! Oh and check out this awesome short story I stumbled upon recently. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did!


http://www.smileandactnice.com/life/person...albreast.1.html

[karategrrl]

Lotus, how awesome!

DJ, I will check out that movie!

You know, you guys reminded me of a similar bad experience (though the person involved was not half as harsh as those other assaholics...). I was changing clothes after a particularly sweaty karate class many years ago. There was another woman in there who was visiting, and also changing at the same time. We were ripping down to the skin, putting on fresh undies & bras, that sort of thing, and I swear when I took off my bra she got a sudden look of shock/horror/pity on her face when she saw my chest, like "Ohmigod!"

Luckily she didn't say anything, but the shock was there. Funny thing is, though she had, like, medium-sized breasts, they were flopping all around and one was way bigger than the other. Not to knock anyone else's boobs, but I felt waay luckier to have mine.

Love you all.

[knorl05]

lotus: which show was it? i was probably there.. ; )
RIGHT ON! what you said. all of it, so true. i'm glad you had the balls to speak up. like you said people need to be put in check.. especially in an environment where people are encouraged to see the unique beauty and natural sexual appeal of the human form. i dont care how snobby this sounds, but that's why i hate non-artists or non-art-aficionados attending those events.. i mean on the one hand, i see it as an opportunity to open their minds, but on the other i see it as yet another chance for them to harshly judge or critique something they dont understand. it seems like at that moment with what you said, it was the former.

[Lotus0910]

Dj-bizmonkey, what an awful experience! If that ever happens to you again you should stand right outside the stall and say clearly "You realize, I can hear you." Not exactly witty or scathing, just a blunt and forward statement to help them realize how ugly they're being. People need to be told when they're behaving in an ugly manner, otherwise they think that said behavior is perfectly acceptable.

I have another eye-opening experiance to share with y'all-

An aquaintance of mine is an erotic photographer. She took some shots of a good friend of mine a few months ago which were featured in an exhibition shortly thereafter. When walking through the exhibition, I was surprised o see how many smaller breasted women were portrayed. Even the large breasted women were natural. Surprisingly, I saw not one woman with fake breasts featured.
As I neared one photograph in particular I heard a comment made "That's a good shot, but I would rather see a little more meat, less bone." then another coment "Beautiful photograph, but hideous model. It's supposed to be artsy, I understand, but do they have to choose women who look like men?" Then my best friend says, "Gross! That woman is sickly looking!" The photograph in question was of a woman who has my EXACT body type. Had she had fake bolt-on breasts, I guarantee you the reaction would have been completely different. She woul have been called 'hot' or 'sexy' but her lack of overly abundant breast tissue (or silicone) had her being called 'gross' and 'sickly'.

I turned to my friend and said loudly and defiantly "I think she's beautiful. Considering the fact that this is what I look like naked, I have nothing negative to say. She's beautiful because she's natural and unwilling to conform."
Everyone in the immediate area immediately looked at the ground, or nodded in agreement. Rightfully so! This was an erotic art show! Meant to sexually liberate and highlight the immense differences in the human form. It just goes to show you that even at an event aimed at provoking ideas of non-conformism and body acceptance, people still choose to have a 'Hollywood' sence of what beauty is. Cosmo is not beauty!

[dj-bizmonkey]

(((((everyone))))), i cannot even tell you how much your responses have helped me. it's one thing to know these concepts in my heart of hearts, it's another thing entirely to have them reinforced by so many intelligent, outspoken, powerful women. THANK YOU! i am so thankful for the existence of this thread.

i wish i could have that little man follow me around wherever i went and if i ran into some bitches like the other day, he could lay some smack down.

why do women cut eachother down like this? what are they hoping to achieve? it boggles my mind, especially in light of the fact that there are so many women like all of you out there in the world.

[edie52]

Ha, I just checked that youtube link that djbizmonkey posted and I kind of loved it. It's ridiculous yet it made me feel good, it's a funny little mantra that's still running through my head. But yeah, my breasts make those ladies' look big, if I saw any of them IRL I would think average, maybe small-ish, nice breasts, but anywho. I wouldn't say there's anything they "ain't got" (and I guess I shouldn't think that about myself, either). The part where the little guy beats up the implant enthusiast was pretty great.

[p_176]

djbizmonkey - i'm so sorry that happened to you!! next time, definitely embarrass the little bitches! (and, as someone who has a larger chest, i don't pity smaller boobed girls...that's just silly).

[edie52]

I didn't know about Linda Fiorentino. I just Google image searched her. She looks very cute, sexy, and confident. I mean, I think natural, bigger breasts can look great, but she definitely looks better than anyone with two fake orbs on their chests.

She's now added to my list of small-busted women who look great (along with my Mom and my boyfriend's Mom!).

[crinoline]

((((dj-bizmonkey))))

Sometimes people can really suck. How ridiculous and immature, is this middle school? In my experience, when girls say things like that it stems from their own low self-confidence. It's like if they put down everyone else around them, they feel better in comparison. Ick.

Anyway, you're awesome, and who cares what vapid little snots say anyway?

[knorl05]

i <3 you dj biz!!!
i JUST read your post. i'm so sorry you had that experience.
but i'd first like to point out that you're way more brave than me when it comes to your body. i would love to be a completely liberated and strong female who accepts her body 100%.. but i dont. i'm working toward it, but i just dont. i wear bras all the time, especially IF changing in public. the only people who have seen me sans bras are beaus. i'm not even comfortable going braless around my girlfriends.. because well, girls can be rude. not that it's an issue, but yeah, the whole shock and pity thing that women with bigger boobs feel for women with smaller boobs. i just dont want to be confronted with it. even when females care about eachother, i still think (most of us?) feel the need to check eachother out.
anyway. what we say and how we interact with people is indicative of our character and our mentality. it is obvious these girls are way immature, manipulated by the media, and play into society's erroneous beliefs about a woman's body. so you should pity them.. feel sorry for them. they are the unfortunate ones. they are the ignorant ones. if they are THAT shallow as to judge a woman they dont even know and make a cruel conversation over it, it shows exactly where they are and where they are headed as women. so beneath you. not even worth your attention or time, i know you know that.
but i understand that it does hurt because well it's just uncalled for.. and the words they chose to create that conversation were, like i said, CRUEL. dumb heartless bitches.
take comfort in knowing they live a shallow life, with their shallow friends, and you only have to deal with them in generic and casual amounts. what you have going for you, your intelligence, heart, soul, talent, love of friends and family.. is so much more important than what two little girls have to say about you to fill their shallow time.
again i know you know this i just hope you let it set in. xoxoxoxo

[dj-bizmonkey]

thanks so much y'all! i knew that posting in here would make me feel better. i'm kind of embarassed to tell the story to any of my bigger breasted friends because i don't want those looks of pity, ya know? i'm contemplating telling my man, but i'm even kind of embarassed there, even though i know he loves my breasts. it's a funny coincidence, because he just sent me this youtube link. i think you might enjoy it even though a)i'm not crazy about 'shake what ya ain't got' b)one the girls looks like she has c-cups, but whatever, the heart is in the right place. here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2IB_1GuC7k

i hope y'all enjoy it, even just a little.

sigh. i'm still recovering. stupid cunts. i'm with you on dropping the c bomb edie. and what choadfaces those guys must have been to say that to you. ugh. i'm really glad you shared that story, even though it may have been painful for you. please know, it helped me feel alot better not to be the ony one accosted by complete strangers.

anarch, i LOVE the fake fruit analogy, i'm using that from now on. brilliant.

karategrrl, i'm the same way when i see women like that in movies, i cheer! i want to watch them over and over again. a great example, linda fiorentino in 'the last seduction.' i love that she's a small-breasted vixen that has every man wrapped up in her web. her breasts are some of the smallest i've ever seen on the silver screen and she's rockin' them. one of the only actresses that's probably the same size as me.

i wonder if those cunts knew i was in there.....whatever, i just hope i never have to face them again, and if i do, i'm going to strut, chest out, head high. fuck 'em.

thanks again ladies, i'm so glad we've got eachother. i appreciate the support and the hugs.

[anarch]

(((dj)))

(((edie)))

I enjoy knowing that trite, superficial girls and guys like that will end up with the partners they deserve, as artificial on the outside as they are hollow on the inside. Like...like....plastic display fruit. Looks fabulous, tastes like blech. They'll end up wondering why their "friends" backstab them, their partners cheat on them and their kids hate them. Guess what honey...it's because the way you measure and judge people is fucked up, and the way you treat people is fucked up, and you're getting exactly what's coming to you.

Hell with them, and all the other sheep like them.

[karategrrl]

Aw, dj-biz, that SUX!!! I'm so sorry that happened, and I really admire you putting your vulnerability out there. You know, it just goes to prove, these very young girls are just the ones who are brainwashed by all this "barbie doll-breasts" ideal. Honestly, girls their age don't see many normal (small) breasts anymore, so of course they are going to think it is unusual. All the more reason why we have to stand firm and proud (and perky) and show how beautiful we are, just as we are. If we don't, who will?

I was watching an old James Bond flick from the '70s last night with the hubby--Live and Let Die. The cutest girl in the movie was this adorable black chick with small breasts. She appeared in a teeny bikini and I said, "Wow! Normal breasts!!!" I mean, you just don't see that too much in the movies anymore.

Still, no doubt that was a sucky thing to experience. Massive hugs to you and your cute, wonderful, fab and sexy boobies! I'm sure you looked HOT!

Of course, there is also the possibility that perhaps they knew you were in there and were deliberately being bitches. Do you think that may have been the case?

[edie52]

Oh no! Aww. That sucks! (((((dj-bizmonkey)))))

What cunts! Sorry to pull out the c-word, but that's what pops into my mind (although "vapid bitches" is just as good and probably more accurate).

I know how you feel. And I know you really try, and do, feel good about yourself and your body, but that can still obviously make a person feel small (no pun intended! small in the bad way... not good like our boobs). And I know you have a man who loves you and thinks you're sexy (not that you need validation from a man). Of course that would get under anyone's skin. I'm usually too shy to even change in public, which I've been trying to work on. I know you're one of the strongest, most outspoken and positive women I've encountered here, and I'm sure the icky feelings that resulted from being a victim of such blatant superficiality and ignorance will soon fade.

Last summer I was crossing the street with my boyfriend, feeling pretty cute in short shorts and a clingy shirt with a low back. We were running across in front of 2 dudes on motorcycles. I guess one of my bra straps was showing, because as I crossed I heard one of the guys say "Can you believe that girl was actually wearing a bra?" in a really snide tone, and the other guy laughed. I was mortified! I don't think my boyfriend heard (he was up ahead), and I was glad, because I wouldn't want him to feel embarassed in public because of his girlfriend's small breasts (though I'm sure he would have written them off as losers anyway). If he did hear, he had the good taste not to mention it. I thought of mentioning it in here, but then decided I just wanted to forget about it.

My new roommate is also really small (AA or A, about the same as me, I would estimate) as I think she's really beautiful. She often wears thin tanks or loose t-shirts without a bra, and it looks sexy and cool. So I think of her if I feel not so great about my breasts. I picture her looking cute and comfortable in her skin.

[dj-bizmonkey]

*runs into lounge, tears streaming*

WOW. what a crap day. so here's my story, best as i can sum it up.

i went to work out at the campus gym, with is rampant with undergrads completing their bizarre mating rituals (to the point that these girls put on makeup BEFORE they go to work out) which i don't ever pay any attention to. after my workout i went to take a shower and was then changing by my locker. i'm not shy when i change in there, that's what a locker room is for, but i don't go strutting around nake either. anyway, i had my little panties on, but no shirt and no bra, just hadn't gotten that far yet, when these two (most likely 18-20yo) girls walked by. the one girl smirked at me in an odd way, but i shook it off, thinking maybe she was uncomfortable with brief, unknown female nudity. anyhow, i finished getting dressed and then went into the bathroom section. i was doing my business when the same two girls (i recognized the one girls bright orange shoes) came into the bathroom to fix their hair in the mirror. their conversation went kind of like this:

a)did you SEE that girl?

b)yeah, if i looked like that i would never change in public.

a)i feel kinda sorry for her, i mean, god, those were like, microscopic! put a shirt on, i mean, come one, no one wants to see that!

b)girls like that should be canidates for free surgery or something, they should, like, have a charity or something for that, you know?

b)yeah, it's just sad.

i wish i could say that i burst out of the stall and confronted them, telling them to mind their own goddamn business, but i didn't. i felt like my heart was going to beat out of my chest and i hid in the bathroom until i could be completely sure the vapid bitches had scampered out.

sigh. no matter how much you may feel good about yourself, how is it that two, inconsequential, obviously shallow, superficial nitwits can get under your skin?

blegh.

[dj-bizmonkey]

Crinoline, are you buying them off the interweb? i am always wary of doing that. i've tried on some of that particular line in department stores and found them to fit really well, especially in terms of the cup size. as long as you don't mind a super-padded bra, i think you would really like them. i wouldn't consider my frame, petite, however, but that being said, with this line i had to loosen the straps alot and wear the band on the last hook. i didn't end up buying them, but that's just because i'm not crazy about padded bras. anywho, hope that helps!

if you're looking for some cheap, non-padded comfy bras, american apparel and american eagle have some good options.

((knorl))

way to be positive snow white, it sounds like you have the right attitude and you've discovered that confidence is the sexiest quality you can posess. i feel kinda sad for your friend too. i hope she does a serious cost/benefit analysis before she drops 5k on surgery. i would worry about her having a super negative partner as well. as you know from experience there are plenty of guys out there that love or prefer small breasts and even more guys who could care less either way. they should love your breasts because they are attached to you, not because they are big or small. maybe you could introduce your friend to this forum?

[crinoline]

It's sad that so many women live in shame for absolutely no reason. Does your friend's bf encourage her toward plastic surgery? For someone with such deep self esteem issues, it could be dangerous to be in a relationship with a negative partner.

And snow, hells yeah your small boobs are awesome, and I'm sure your nips, however quirky they may be, rock.

Anyway, I came in here to ask, has anyone tried the Calvin Klein Perfectly Fit Petite line?

It looks great to me because not only are my boobs small, I'm petite in general with small shoulders and a narrow back. These are supposed to be cut for smaller proportions, so the cups lay correctly against your ribs, and the straps are closer together (yay!! no more constant slipping straps). It sounds great, but being a college student, I'm reluctant to drop $40.00 on another bra that doesn't fit. (I've been buying too long in the preteen section, lol)
Does anyone know anything about this line? Could this truly be a well fitting petite bra or am I just dreaming the impossible dream here?

[snow white]

i have a girlfriend who has really small boobs. she's so embarrassed by them half the time she doesn't even take off her shirt when she and bf git bizzy. she's saving up for a boob job.

i also have small boobs but i've never had a problem about it. the guys i date are into small boobs. plus i have inverted nipples, not as good as regualr nips but whatever. i look at my friend and i'm so thankful i don't have the hangups she has... i don't know, it makes me kinda sad

[knorl05]

*click* ; ) good call crinoline

djbiz: yeah, i guess sometimes i think i take some things too serious and other things not serious enough. but i cant help but think their ignorance is laughable only because there are so many of them who get involved in that shit. i completely agree with this thought .. "ummm, aren't people dying, starving, suffering all over the world? couldn't our attention be better drawn to something significant?" all i can say to that is it really comes down to our values, you know, our attitudes about life and the world around us. what people deem "significant". like you said, our priorities.

see at the same time, it's hard to really judge them considering they are just dealing with their body issues in a different way than people like us: people who fight the misconceptions and errors in our thinking, and search for the truth.. vs those who many not have the foresight or strength to go against the grain. my close friends are people who are individual in their thinking, but i have known acqaintences and family members who gave in and had plastic surgery. i almost feel sorry for them. i can sympathize (and empathize!) with their body issues, but i cant really relate to going under the knife to resolve them.

your last paragraph was beautiful and very eloquent. i think i will print it for inspiration and put it somewhere accessible to look at when i need it.. ; ) shit i think i'm going to do that with all the inspirational thoughts i come across anymore. hmm*

[crinoline]

Hey all!
I don't usually post this kind of thing, but The Breast Cancer Site is having trouble meeting their quota of donating one free mammogram to an underprivileged woman a day. So if you want to help, just go to the website I linked and click on the pink box. It's absolutely free, they just count how many clicks they get.
Small breasts need protection too!!