[bunnyb]

For years people have been saying that Debbie doesn't care and Debbie doesn't do shit and I, personally, don't think that's ever going to change. As AP says, she isn't part of this community and consequently hasn't grown to care for it or have its best interests at heart. She gave the mods a go and it backfired (for her) and I don't think she'll change her mind again; it took a lot of persuading from GT the first time around and she's gone back to the hands-off approach.

We had it good for a while but now it's back to business as usual. We've all dealt with it for years (and no, we shouldn't have to, it's unfair, but it's the way it is) and we have the tools to get on with it. Yes, it's a hassle to be adding to the ignore list daily but at least we have an ignore function now to make it all pretty again; it could be a lot worse.

Don't get me wrong: I admire GT for standing her ground and protesting but I worry too that one day Debbie will just think, "fuck it, I don't need this shit" and take the lounge away from us. I would much prefer being silent, whilst utilising the ignore and report features (not that the latter does much good) and have the lounge than pushing Debbie so far that we don't. Voicing our displeasure would be counterproductive in that instance and then what would we complain about (and where would we do it)?

/two pence.

[auralpoison]

It can happen. I know that in keeping up with fucking Steve, at least one Busties' post got caught up in the melee. When you have a body (Even with limitations. The post limit helped, but was NOT a deterrent, as we all well know.) that is hell-bent on fucking shit up, sometimes innocent victims get caught up in the crossfire. There will be casualties, & they will be accidental, friendly-fire. No *BAD* is intended. Nobody wants to silence us.

And when GT was replaced, we did have anonymous Busties that took care of things. And then one night Debbie decided to take that away (As far as I know, with no explanations. POOF!) & it again became relegated to some anonymous intern that was NOT our most beloved LLLysa. It is now somebody that doesn't care, hence the clusterfuck in the fashion thread, etc.

I understand why GT has called Debbie out again & again. She's not an *active* part of the board, so it's no big diff to her. She may be the progenitor of this community, but she's not a PART of it. She CHOOSES not to engage. That's her choice. But I personally am choosing not to condemn her because she's in a position of power. She could choose to yank & tank this space anytime she wants to. And I'D MISS THE FUCK OUT OF IT & ALL OF YOU.

So I may bitch, moan, & holler, but either way, this place has enriched my life. I NEED YOU. I need you like I need air, food, & water. So I can suck it up.

In the past couple days my "ignore" file has grown quite fat. I expect it's waistline to exceed mine anyday now.

[pollystyrene]

wait, ggg, the mod squad DELETED A REAL BUSTIE'S POST? this is NOT COOL.

I agree- didn't we ask that GT's replacement be an anonymous real Bustie, NOT an intern who has too much other stuff going on and doesn't have the same level of commitment to us? How hard is that?

[auralpoison]

Mmmmm . . . brownie. Thanx. I needed that. When a day starts going to shit before it even begins . . . warm, melty chocolate deliciousness makes it all better.

[geekchickknits]

Sorry, dood. I thought you was fuckin' wit me. Everybody else today seems to be. GRRRRR!

No worries, dood. Here, have a brownie.

*puts out a tray*

Brownies for everyone! (it's the recipe from vinnie's rollercoaster period chart, except I use white chocolate chips instead of semi sweet, and mike and ike's hot tamales instead of red hots.)

[auralpoison]

Sorry, dood. I thought you was fuckin' wit me. Everybody else today seems to be. GRRRRR!

[geekchickknits]

I gots no voice of my own, GCK? I am one lump some with GT? *THIS* bitch got her own opinions. I don't motherfuckin' think we gots no mutual policy!

Did you click through to the mutual admiration thread? (my bad, I may not have identified the link clearly enough) I was just trying to thank both you and gt for the passion and humour you bring to and for the lounge.

Nothing about policy, everything about what you do have in common, including the way your individual styles of expressing yourselves make me happy.

[culturehandy]

Mouse, I asked the same question. Trolls can run rampant, but legitimate posts are getting deleted. And where's mod squad? Oh that's right, not here to EXPLAIN what's going on.

[mouse]

wait, ggg, the mod squad DELETED A REAL BUSTIE'S POST? this is NOT COOL.

[girltrouble]

how am i making this a better place? steve hasn't been seen here in a while, has he? now you might not like to admit i had a part in it, but i think you'd be in the minority. he was around here for YEARS, if you'll recall. i'm sorry, no, i'm actually not, that you don't like my complaining. tough shit. but they got things done, if you are counting a mod, or my moding, or getting debbie's attention. thanks for asking. any other stupid questions?

i'll ask you the same, how are you making this a better place? i don't see any results from you playing switch with your thumb up your ass. how has that helped? or would you rather talk about your bitching about my bitching? great! add to the pile.

dood, pepper, block me and shut the fuck up. i'm not gonna stop complaining, so fuck off. if you can go into that other thread where multiple spam trolls post after every bust post and say "big deal." then there really is nothing that bugs you, except for me and my posts, so for fucksake, BLOCK ME. really. according to you, i am the only thing wrong with bust, so put us both out of our misery and DO IT.

really, you bitch about nothing BUT ME. take your fucking head out of your ass, and type my name in the little box and have done with it. how hard is that shit?

i'm sorry but this is a fucking troll thread, and your delicate sensibilities offended by my bitching about debbie not doing the MINIMAL AMOUNT OF WORK that is done ON EVERY OTHER SITE? if blocking is the solution, why the fuck haven't you done it before? after all you "just come in here to add new names to your list." has it never occurred to you, that you can block me and you can still do that.

and-- you can stick your head back in the sand or back up your ass or wherever you keep it.

bonus for both of us.

[pepper]

i don't go into kvetch, it's never had any draw for me personally but i Do come in here for updates about posters to add to my ignore list, etc. and i don't really want to have to stop doing that. it's helpful.

AP i have no idea what the fuck is up with the cruise ship nonsense, they are totally aggressive too. i mean, when it's not a stupid ass recording that starts out with a big ole fog horn sound that is. when i actually got a real person and said "no thank you, i have small children" the weirdo tried to convince me that it would be Great to go on a cruise with them. what the duh? obviously never met any children in your life there buddy...

[roseviolet]

ETA: Nevermind.

[auralpoison]

I gots no voice of my own, GCK? I am one lump sum with GT? *THIS* bitch got her own opinions. I don't motherfuckin' think we gots no mutual policy!

Dude, I am retarded. Even if it offends Tommy or whatever. Still a tad bit bitter, though. That's what I get for suckin' on lemons.

And I done asked about Florida. I don't get the whole cruise thing . . . I'd just rather that the fashion threads be cleaned up.

[geekchickknits]

AP and GT

I find GT keeps her rants about trolls and spambots to this thread......

Follow your own advice, if you don't want to read them, don't read this thread.

That's my two cents.

[pixiedust]

Gt, I totally understand why you are frustrated. Having had a chance to Mod yourself, you probably know better than the rest of us what it takes to do it. But you also asked to step down. And since then you have filled page after page with very long aggressive posts towards Debbie.

I'm kind of with Pepper. I don't want to start having to ignore legitamate Busties, but these posts( and I am not talking about just yours) are far more negative to the overall energy of the lounge than the spammers. We've had these problems for years...and now that we actually have an ignore function...and people who can clean up Steve's mess occasionally, it's a hell of a lot better than the old days.

If you feel you need to let Debbie know what's on your chest, fine. But do you have to do it so publically? How seriously do you think she's going take you when you are publically calling her out? It's her playground afterall.

This used to be a Zen place to come and unwind and kick it with some really kick ass women. Now feel like I spend most of my time wading through the negativity trying to find legitamate posts.

[pepper]

oh girl, please. don't get all holier than thou at this late date. you have absolutely berated the people here who Dare to oppose your ceaseless rant about debbie and the powers that be. i DID take a look at the thread that you linked and i still say Big Freaking Deal! that's what the ignore function is for. it's really, really easy to use. not to mention that the problem of horrible pictures has been dealt with by those same ptb that you are encouraging other busties to send nasty messages to. they heard our valid complaint and they addressed it as best they could but they're still getting bitched at about it not being a good enough solution. jeesh!
frankly the bitching and moaning coming from legitimate busties is far more irritating than a bunch of easily ignored nonsense that i can make disappear with few key strokes. unless i ignore those posters i get absolutely bombarded with the same negative, name calling and wicked bitching over and over again. i don't want to do start ignoring actual people here, that's ridiculous.

i ask you, how exactly are you making this a better place? i'm not seeing it.

[girltrouble]

and pep, that's absolutely fine. it doesn't bug you, or you don't let it bug you, then you do what you do. but i have a policy that if it bugs me, do something.

so i do.

and when every post is interrupted by a long post (you didn't look at that thread, did you?), or there are abortion pix, for me, it's not than a mostly positive experience. particularly when, in my view, it takes so little effort to take care of the issue. there are people who it's not important to, and they are happy with what they get. that's not me. i am never satisfied, always restless. it's who i am, and if i love something, i want it to be better. i don't require you do be like me, nor, i might add, do i look down my nose at you for it.

[auralpoison]

What is up with the trips to Florida or wherever? I keep getting these automated calls telling me I won a free cruise. I don't like cruise ships. Believe it or not, I get nauseated. I know that the things are huge & that I should be fine, but once it starts moving, I turn green. I tried that Scopolamine patch & it only seemed to make things worse. I was hallucinating & stuff. Not cool.

[pepper]

sorry, i should have quoted and replied with my post, it was in response to gt. but i can play armchair analyst with you if you like ggg, anytime.

gt, sure it's annoying but it's not like it's the end of the world. it's just a post for geebus sake, no big deal. and just to let you know the mama threads are where Tons of those fake-o abortion pics were showing up. upsetting, yes. but again that's what the ignore function is for.

i'm not saying that a little clean up wouldn't be nice, it sure would. but if not oh well, i can choose to let it get my knickers in a knot or i can just move on. seriously, traffic is way more irritating than anything that happens online. i just have a hard time investing so much energy into the negative aspects of a generally positive experience here. i mean, i don't like it when i'm putting the baby to sleep and have to get up to answer a phone call that turns out to be an automated message telling me i won a free trip to florida (you wouldn't believe how often that happens) so why would i get all uptight about spam here? it's the internet, it goes with the territory. if i found it bothering me that much i'd shut the computer off like i turn off the phone ringer. no big deal.

[auralpoison]

Firstly, I want to state that I am nobody's butt buddy on this. GT is a grown-assed woman & doesn't need me to back her up, so all ya'll haters can shut it right now. If not, you can go eat a bag of dicks.

Okay, now even I am getting annoyed by the spam. Yeah, I can largely ignore it, but I want the goddamned ModSquad back & handling this shit. I know it's an intern that probably has a million things to do besides police the Lounge. BUT. This has gotten out of control. When we had a reliable ModSquad, shit was squared away in mere seconds. Now? The shit lingers. There is no reason that there should be EIGHT fucking retardo spam offerings in the fashion thread. It takes mere seconds to dispose of that stuff. SECONDS. I know this for a FACT.

And while Steve may not be posting much, he's set up several new profiles to fuck with us from. He's just biding his time & waiting for Jesus to send him a message to fuck with us.

This is retarded. I love this space. I've gotten it in the teeth here more than a few times & I NEED that. Ya'lls keep me honest & call me on my shit when I'm being a total cuntwad. I'll defend this site by any means necessary. So why is it that TPTB won't step to the fucking plate for us? I'm not talking *constant* vigilance. I mean, just a single sweep of bullshit every twenty-four hours would be nice.