[flatgurl]

Hi girls, I'm new here and I've been reading through all the threads and it's so nice to find a place for some support. I'm 25 years old and it's like my breasts never grew- at all - I am a 32AA with the help of birth control pills. This has been such a source of distress for me that it has ruined previous relationships because I have no self-confidence whatsoever and am always feeling ugly and inadequate. I've never known another woman to be as flat as me, and my sister is actually one of those skinny girls with DDs. At the age of 25 I have pretty much given up hope that any more growth will ever happen to me. I am always thinking that there is something wrong with my body and have searched for potential health problems that may have caused this, but I've never gotten any answers and no doctors have ever told me that my lack of growth is a problem due to my small stature. I am so so sooo sick of feeling this way and of worrying every 5 seconds that my bf is disappointed with me, that I don't turn him on, or that he would be happier with someone else. He tells me all that time that size doesn't matter- but that doesn't mean a guy finds you beautiful just because he says it "doesn't matter". I struggle all the time with the media images of beautiful women because they never remotely resemble anything like what I look like- a tiny girl with no boobs who looks like a child. People have called me a lot of names my whole life for being so flat . To be honest, I never even noticed that my lack of breasts was an issue until people pointed it out to me around age 16. Before then I was flat and didn't even think about it, but now it's become more or less an obsession. I mean boobs are everywhere- they are what guys talk about and want and i just have never been a part of that world. I am so self-conscious that I have never been able to randomly hook up with anyone i am attracted to ( which i guess has its good points) because I could never let anyone in on my secret that I don't know reallyyyyy well (like I didn't let my bf see me without clothes for at least a year, and even now I'm still terrified). this has just caused me to absolutely HATE my body and i consider implants so often, even though the whole idea of it scares me to death. I don't want to have to pump my body full of plastic, but i do want to look like a normal girl. It just feels so unfair to never grow into being a full-grown woman, like I've been robbed of that rite of passage. I am trying so hard to deal with this and trying to stay positive, but everyday is a struggle. I want to learn to love my body but im not sure if that can ever happen for me, i just don't think I look good like this, and I doubt I ever will. I currently wear padded inserts in my bra, which causes a whole lot of problems bc i'm embarrassed for my bf to know that I do this so I always have to be discreet about it-it can be really hard sometimes. Does anyone know where to find a padded bra that will make me look like a full A/small B? I've tried V.S. but those still make me look flat as ever! putting inserts into your bra is just uncomfortable and annoying, but its the only thing that enables me to go outside and not feel like people are staring and thinking im ugly and unfortunate. i just need help and support. i want to overcome these bad feelings. sorry this is so long, but this issue just tortures me everyday...

[GettingBetter]

This is an amazing forum. I've been reading it for a little while, and I have to get on it and comment. So many so-called "support groups" really just discuss breast enhancement options, which push-up bras make it seem like you have cleavage, etc. It's so refreshing to find one that discusses the positives of small-breastedness rather than how to change it! I'm still really trying to come to terms with my body (I'm fairly tall and a bit curvy on bottom -- I feel out of proportion with my small chest), but reading this thread has helped so much.

For so long I've worried about how men view my body, and women, too (I've received quite a few snide remarks from ladies with larger chests). But I think that if I flaunt what I have in a confident way, others will perceive my body in a better way too. The other day I went braless for the first time ever, and I received so many more compliments than usual (not about my boobs specifically, just comments like "I can't tell what it is, but you look so nice today!"). Everyone who's considering bralessness should give it a try!

[KeraBear]

I also went without a bra recently, Angie! Our experiences were similar. I decided to be superbold and went bare at an outdoor barbeque/concert thing (although i also wore a tanktop underneath because my nipples are so obnoxious). I half expected my boyfriend to pick up on it right away and be like, "ummm... dude, where did your breasts go?" But surprisingly he was pretty oblivious. It wasn't until the end of the night when he was hugging on me did he realize i wasn't wearing a bra. Then he said, "I think it's sexy." It made me feel good. At least now the secret is out. My boyfriend loves me AND my tiny booblets. I guess it's true, most guys just plain like boobies big or small. It's all goooood in my neighborhood.

[TheBeesKnees]

You know how a lot of girls are getting those cute swallows on their chests these days? Well, I heard about someone's mom who got a bee on her boob [boob-bee - cute, right?], and decided that instead of little birds with banners, I'm gonna get two bees, one on either side of my chest, with little banners that read "Itty" and "Bitty". Yup.

[Allison-Shine]

And I still think lots - maybe the majority - of guys just like breasts, regardless of size.
Ailurophile, "Looking bigger is not heaven. Loving my tiny tits is." Yes, ma'am!!!

I think guys are just happy or lucky to be in contact with a pair no matter what size. Took me too long to realize that. This fourm even helped an sometimes very insecure me to understand that quicker and better.

[strongirl]

I really love all the positive energy and small-breast appreciation going on in here lately. Y'all are such amazing, intelligent, thoughtful women, it keeps me checking and posting here even when I feel like I shouldn't spend so much time on a forum chatting with people I don't even really know.

On the question of guys and moms, it has been discussed in here previously and people's experience was all over the place, so I don't think there's a pattern. My late mother-in-law was extremely large-breasted and all her sons prefer small breasts, promoting the "opposites" theory. But I think it was Crinoline who said that her boyfriend's mother was very small-breasted and he prefers small girls too, so I'm pretty sure it just varies. And I still think lots - maybe the majority - of guys just like breasts, regardless of size.

Ailurophile, "Looking bigger is not heaven. Loving my tiny tits is." Yes, ma'am!!!

[angie_21]

So yesterday in response to this message board, I went all day without a bra - out shopping & to a BBQ, and big surprise, no one really noticed. My boyfriend didn't even notice until I pointed it out, and his only response was, "oh. hey, nice tits, by the way" (he's a classy one ) I did feel a little self conscious without the extra inch that the lined bra gives me, and I wore a tank top under my shirt to prevent any nipple problems, but still, I thought it was a minor victory. I did feel pretty comfortable without underwire poking me in the ribs, and not having to constantly pull my straps back up onto my shoulders. I might also head out to the expensive bra boutiques and look for an unlined AA sometime this week.

Another complaint - there's this awesome, awesome bra at La Vie En Rose (my favorite semi-mainstream lingere store in this city) that's meant to be worn with low cut shirts, it's one of the convertible, crossover, deep plunge front type bras, and it gives just the perfect amount of lift to be worn with a revealing top. So guess what sizes it comes in? B-D. I tried it on in a 34B and of course it fits great except for the strap being wayyy too tight, and I have some fo those extension thingies at home, but at that point I was too self-righteously angry to buy it. If I'm gonna pay $50 for a bra, I want it to fit right without having to fix it myself, dammit!

[Allison-Shine]

...although there's definitely days I wouldn't mind be a B-cup...

And now this thread had me thinking about all the other times my small boobs are referenced. Hmpf. Shit. On the bright side: my boyfriend loves them. That probably doesn't hurt my confidence too much. I'm lucky I've never really come across jerky guys...just jerky girls

Yes, surprisingly in my experience as well is the girls that tease, gloat and make it way more an issue than the guys do. Especially younger ones.

[TheBeesKnees]

BeesKnees sorry for freaking out at your friend. Although, I would still be a bitch right back to her, seriously. Life's too short to be spent with people who are inconsiderate based on the excuse that "I'm not being mean to you, I'm just like that with everyone." But yeah, it's weird how so many girls have no idea about what guys want in reality, compared to what we see in magazines and on the covers of pornos. (Not to say I'm so naive as to think guys don't love lots of boob, but just that, there's so many things just as important, or more so. And it's unfair to men to think they are all too dumb to appreciate quality as well as quantity)

Even better, we can make tiny bras (no AA sizing, sorry, we can find a system more useful than that!), and clothes that fit well without bras anyways. Like maybe t-shirts that aren't paper freakin thin and that don't display for the world not only the shape of your nipple, but the color too?

Oh, I didn't think anyone freaked out! And she's not my friend, she's my sister's friend. I'm just around when I hang out with my [equally tiny-boobied] sister, who I love enough to endure almost anything

And your reference to double-As reminds me: [this has happened more than once], when I've gone to Von Maur to look for bras, the sales clerk has told me [when I ask for As], "...and if those don't work, we have double As over there." But I don't think she was being snide, just helpful. In her way

And I'm not sure who exactly who was talking about this, but it would be awesome if they made bras to fit the actual size that they are. Sometimes I'm just swimming in A cups - they just fit all weird, and I'm like, "seriously?!" With as much attention as we put on breasts, everyone should have comfortable, flattering bras. If they so choose to wear one.

[girl_logic]

I love hearing first hand stories about women's activism in the 70's 80's. It just gives me a great feeling, reminds me of my childhood and watching my mom and her friends and their energy then. Makes me feel grounded and rooted.

This bra sizing talk makes me think of a guy some other Busties dubbed the Bra Rabbi on Orchard Ave in New York. I keep meaning to get sized by him when I'm there - apparently he's absolutely amazing and has re-fitted many a Bustie correctly!

[angie_21]

Hey edie, I think we are the same bra size lol

Yeah, the author thought she was being tongue-in-cheek and funny, but she was really just being condescending and vaguely offensive. We've all heard that bra size stuff a million times. Also, if she had shown the straps of those bras, it would be a lot easier to see which one was which, because an A cup as big as a D cup would still look like an A once you saw how long the strap on it was.

BeesKnees sorry for freaking out at your friend. Although, I would still be a bitch right back to her, seriously. Life's too short to be spent with people who are inconsiderate based on the excuse that "I'm not being mean to you, I'm just like that with everyone." But yeah, it's weird how so many girls have no idea about what guys want in reality, compared to what we see in magazines and on the covers of pornos. (Not to say I'm so naive as to think guys don't love lots of boob, but just that, there's so many things just as important, or more so. And it's unfair to men to think they are all too dumb to appreciate quality as well as quantity)

On a related funny story note.. a while ago I was with some friends, and one guy (drunkenly) was trying to describe a well-endowed actress. He couldn't quite find the words he was looking for, I think because he was trying to be "respectful" so he came up with saying she was "full of boobs." ha ha

lol starship, I've heard that too, but it was interms of personality instead of appearance! So guys learn what the "role" or a woman in a family or relationship is based on the role their mother played when they were growing up.. so if their mom was a career woman, they are more likely to be attracted to smart, stronger willed women, but if their mom stayed at home they will want to marry a sweet, subservient housewife... See, that doesn't sound too believable either, does it? It's a bunch of freudian stereotypes that may have a statistical basis in reality somewhere, but are overinterpreted and oversimplified by pop psychology, and aren't really true.

Even better, we can make tiny bras (no AA sizing, sorry, we can find a system more useful than that!), and clothes that fit well without bras anyways. Like maybe t-shirts that aren't paper freakin thin and that don't display for the world not only the shape of your nipple, but the color too?

[edie52]

I was annoyed by that, too, karategrrl, but I try not to let that stuff get to me anymore. A = adolescent? My almost A's are forever, yo. And I'm okay with that.

[karategrrl]

Okay, I just read that blog about the bra sizes. It's very interesting but we totally don't need all the negative references to A-cups, like this:

A cups are only “almost” breasts, according to our enlightened email-forwarding brethren. How can they be nearly as big as DD (”double d@mn!!”) cups?

And this (in reference to when the author was an A-cup): I have fond memories of the fourth grade.

The author can seriously go fuck herself. And that comes from me and my "almost " breasts.

[karategrrl]

I vaguely remember hearing something about guys going for girls with similar breast size to their mothers. Please someone tell me I made that up. It does sound pretty ridiculous.

I once dated a guy whose mom and sis both had huge knockers. (I saw one of his mom's bras dangling from the doorknob one day and I was actually startled at the size of, the engineering, etc.) Anyhoo, I once gingerly brought up the subject and he said something like that big boobs didn't matter one way or the other b/c he was used to seeing them on his mom and sis growing up. He turned ot to be a dick but I do give him credit for that.

Hey edie52, maybe you could get a couple of bra extenders? They sell 'em in sewing/craft stores alongside the sew-in bra cups and shoulder pads. that ight help with the band tightness.

[starship]

For many of us I'm sure it's the opposite- for example, the few "real" bras I own are 34A, because A cups are about a bajillion times easier to find that AAs. So I'm wearing a cup size too big and a band size too small. The cups fit okay, but the band is tight and uncomfortable even on the largest hook. Explains why I really never wear those bras.

....Ditto.

& I'm also a bra whipper upon arriving home

again, padding, its not so much that i deliberately seek padding, but i like buying pretty underwear and the whole size issue means i have to either go for an uncomfortable 32a, or a 34a which is slightly too big in the cup unless its a padded/moulded style. As for 34aa, if i can find one in that size, in a nice style, that doesnt cos the earth then I'm buying whether it's padded or not. I think never wearing a bra at all would probably add to the insecurity i get sometimes about not feeling a 'real woman'. Sad but true.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could put our knowledge together and create a decent line of bras for small boobs. one that's possible to buy without advanced google skills and a huge overdraft..

This is kind-of weird but I'm slightly intimidated by my new love-interest's mom's breasts. They are HUGE. and she is tiny. I vaguely remember hearing something about guys going for girls with similar breast size to their mothers. Please someone tell me I made that up. It does sound pretty ridiculous. And I think he had a thing for Paris Hilton which is a good sign (in a weird sorta way). Why does every woman that comes into my life seem to bring an amazing huge pair of breasts with her.

Beesknees, your friend still sounds like a rude bitch

"but some of us do actually need them" ouch.

[edie52]

Some of you may have seen this posted in the large breast support group. I already knew about the "secret" (that cup size is relative to band size, duh), but I was still surprised that one of the bras in the 1st photo is an A cup! Also interesting is that she said that many women who are wearing the wrong size are wearing "a band too big and a cup size too small." For many of us I'm sure it's the opposite- for example, the few "real" bras I own are 34A, because A cups are about a bajillion times easier to find that AAs. So I'm wearing a cup size too big and a band size too small. The cups fit okay, but the band is tight and uncomfortable even on the largest hook. Explains why I really never wear those bras.

Sometimes I'll jump at a bra in the store because the cups actually look small enough to fit me, but it turns out to be a 30B or something. Where's my 36AA?!

I'm wearing a tube top today- a black cotton one with a built-in shelf bra. It's tucked into a grey summer skirt with a wide waistband and pockets. And topped with a few necklaces. I feel pretty hot!

[TheBeesKnees]

...although there's definitely days I wouldn't mind be a B-cup...

And now this thread had me thinking about all the other times my small boobs are referenced. Hmpf. Shit. On the bright side: my boyfriend loves them. That probably doesn't hurt my confidence too much. I'm lucky I've never really come across jerky guys...just jerky girls

[TheBeesKnees]

I think I should amend my statement! That's just how she is. She's not like, my BFF by any means, but I've come to accept that she means nearly nothing that she says. I really should have made that more clear I just thought it was sort of funny, for similar reasons pointed out [i.e. pointing out imaginary physical flaws], but I should have clarified that she's not some uber-asshole. Just really, really inappropriate. And a D-cup. So...has no idea what it's like to be an A-cup [it's pretty awesome actually

[ailurophile]

Well said Strongirl!

They may have had "falsies" around for a very long time BUT never almost every bra in the store. It's difficult to find them without even a lining nowadays. I remember going many, many, many years without padding. When they started carrying padded bras in stores, I was in heaven. Thought it'd be great looking bigger until all sizes came in padding. Duh! Who's the dope that thought of that?? Anyway, looking bigger is not heaven. Loving my tiny tits is.

I, too, "whip" off my bra as soon as I come home. Cannot stand the pressure.

[karategrrl]

I mean, they look damn fine, I don't know if the boys could handle it!

You go, girl!!!

-So the "Trust me, they've been disappointed." chic can kiss my tiny tits.

Love it!!!!!! Bwahahahaha!


angie_21, Yup, totally right on about the A-cup bras just being scaled-down C's. I never thought of it that way, but you're right. Explains why supposed "A" cups still don't fricking fit, and why I shop in the teen bra dept--it's all about different PROPORTIONS, you dumbass bra-making people. I can't tell you all how many times I've tried on A-cup bras only to find the cups were more like large B's but they were, like, practically touching in the middle. At least the way I'm built, being small doesn't mean I have 2 B-cups that look like this: (o|o) instead of this: (o) (o)