[mermaidgirl]

hi all - i'm new here...if nothing else, it's nice to know i'm not alone with this...

question: has anyone's had any success using vitamin C tablets?

this has probably been asked an answered already so if someone could point me to the post (assuming one exists), i'd really appreciate it...thanks in advance!

*trying to smile*

[bvgirl]

I havent heard an update on most of you.. how is everyone doing?? Me, still the same.. giving up on my sex life for good now..

Well, sorry to hear that you have not found a product that will help you with your bv and bv odor but I must say that I was feeling the same way so you are not alone. I suffered for years with bv and a few months ago found a product that is helping me(yeast arrest) I am a believer that you will find something that will work for you. Don't give up continue with researching and trial and error. Hang in there..

[pympmama1]

I havent heard an update on most of you.. how is everyone doing?? Me, still the same.. giving up on my sex life for good now..

I gave up my sex life 3yrs ago when sex became.....embarrassing and men think you are dirty due to the smell .... I have been keeping the smell at bay with BA but I am considering going on birth control to hopefully even out my hormones....I cannot recall if I had this problem while on bc pills I have not been on them since the 90's... so i am keeping hope alive neverending had some good info on hormones and another f word i cannot remember from her article

[chantelhugo]

I havent heard an update on most of you.. how is everyone doing?? Me, still the same.. giving up on my sex life for good now..

[arj75]

arj75, I am not being funny--you should meditate. I mean really meditate (if possible). It's free, yoga is expensive, and it does wonders for stress. Laughing is good too but not everyone is a stand-up.

Very true Cinderflower, not everyone is a stand-up. And while I was on my "I hate God strike" because of everything that has transpired in the past two years of my life...I did meditate. Actually, I had to because my anxiety attacks were getting so bad, that I would pass out from not being able to breath! But i do have a good sense of humor, and have been blessed with a couple friends that do as well. (actually one is a stand-up) lol

I am gonna join a support group to help me cope with losing my best friend of 15 years, and also another group, to help me understand of how to cope with a mother that smokes $8,000 dollars of crack a month so she can cope with her many health problems. (I'm almost at wits end with this....it's a damn if you do, damn if you don't kinda thing with her.....

Meditatation helped me for sure.....

[cinderflower]

arj75, I am not being funny--you should meditate. I mean really meditate (if possible). It's free, yoga is expensive, and it does wonders for stress. Laughing is good too but not everyone is a stand-up.

[pympmama1]

MORE LAUGHTER FOR THE DAY....WHEN I READ THIS...I THOUGHT...OH NO...THAT BULLET'S GOING TO CAUSE B.V.!!! HAHAHA

Taking a tinkle................

A woman pregnant with triplets was walking down the street when a masked
robber ran out of a bank and shot her three times in the stomach.
Luckily the babies were OK. The surgeon decided to leave the bullets in
because it was too risky to operate. She gave birth to two healthy
daughters and a healthy son.

All was fine for 16 years, and then one daughter walked into the room in
tears. "What's wrong?" asked the mother. "I was taking a tinkle and this
bullet came out," replied the daughter. The mother told her it was okay
and explained what happened 16 years ago.

About a week later the second daughter walked into the room in tears.
"Mom, I was taking a tinkle and this bullet came out." Again the mother
told her not to worry and explained what happened 16 years ago.

A week later her son walked into the room in tears. "It's Okay," said
the mom, "I know what happened. You were taking a tinkle and a bullet
came out."

"No," said the boy, "I was jacking off and I shot the dog."

LMAO.... that was a good one

[jewelscando]

MORE LAUGHTER FOR THE DAY....WHEN I READ THIS...I THOUGHT...OH NO...THAT BULLET'S GOING TO CAUSE B.V.!!! HAHAHA

Taking a tinkle................

A woman pregnant with triplets was walking down the street when a masked
robber ran out of a bank and shot her three times in the stomach.
Luckily the babies were OK. The surgeon decided to leave the bullets in
because it was too risky to operate. She gave birth to two healthy
daughters and a healthy son.

All was fine for 16 years, and then one daughter walked into the room in
tears. "What's wrong?" asked the mother. "I was taking a tinkle and this
bullet came out," replied the daughter. The mother told her it was okay
and explained what happened 16 years ago.

About a week later the second daughter walked into the room in tears.
"Mom, I was taking a tinkle and this bullet came out." Again the mother
told her not to worry and explained what happened 16 years ago.

A week later her son walked into the room in tears. "It's Okay," said
the mom, "I know what happened. You were taking a tinkle and a bullet
came out."

"No," said the boy, "I was jacking off and I shot the dog."

[arj75]

If you think that doctor is too expensive, find another one. Were you tested for your hormones already? Sorry for asking, but it is hard to remember everyone's story on this board. And what age are you? If you are planning to become pregnant in the future, you should definitely go have your hormone levels checked. Oh sorry, he said that 'hormones didn't play a factor'. That means to me that he did check them already. Or else, how would he know this. But my other question is: if he is saying hormones aren't a factor, why is he giving you a hormone ring?? Because that is what NuvaRing is. A ring of estrogen and progestin. It's like the birth control pill. But yes, he is correct, it could be 'stress related'. But stress can lead to hormonal changes, that are very difficult to get back on track. I would know, because I am trying to get back on track right now. It's not as easy as you would think.

I also got a phone call today from my doctor. She got the second test results back. I had a blood test done to check my progesterone levels again, except this test was done on my peak luteal day. Which is supposed to be peak of progesterone production. And guess what? It is WAY low. Like I barely have any progesterone. But my estrogen is normal. So I would suggest to everyone with a BV problem to definitely get tested for all your hormones. Especially if becoming pregnant in the future is something you want as an option. So now I am waiting to hear back from her to see what she suggests I do next. Maybe I can just take a progesterone cream? Not sure what to do, will wait and see what she says.

CANCAN, I'm sorry I forgot to answer your question, that doctor that I seen did not check my hormones because he said there is no connection. So needless to say, I won't be seeing him again. I asked for the Birth control to put in my bacterial vaginosis hall of fame collection. lol

[arj75]

By the way, if anyone here reading this has BV, whether or not it is hormone related, and wants to get pregnant at some point in the future - - trying to correct the problem and have a successful pregnancy will be way more expensive than going to Europe. So expensive, that you can just kiss that European vacation bye-bye. I have a friend who is trying to get pregnant now, and it is costing her $9,000 per try every time she tries In Vitro Fertilization. So isn't it better to spend the $1000 now, and correct the problem before trying to get pregnant, than running the risk of not being able to? Correcting hormone imbalance sometimes takes quite a while, and many women run out of time.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/3/1680_51209.htm

I know, it is going to be expensive as hell. I would like to have another child in the future, and before this bv bullshit ever came about, I was gonna be a surrogant mother for my cousin who cannot get pregnant. I'm pretty upset tonight, but I'm trying to remain optimistic.....I'll check my sugar daddy mail here in a bit. lol I don't have insurance, and well wasted trips to one dumbass doctor after another is costing me a lot, and the bank account...I don't even want to think about what is not there.

My friend did some research for me..and all of us...laughter it is the best medicine for stress. In my big bag of bullshit, I have a link...http:holistic-online.com/Humor_Therapy/humor_mcghee_article.htm

Yes the research is limited...but humor has shown that laughter reduces at least four neuroendocrine hormones associated with the stress response, including epinephrine, cortisol, dopac, and growth hormone. This is consistent with research showing that various relaxation procedures reduce stress hormones. (hormones levels were checked with this study)

Laughter enhances our immune system. The greatest amount of research to date has focused on immunoglobulin A. B cells (made in bone marrow) produce immunoglobulins. Blood count was done to est. these before and after people watched a comedy and the B cells were higher after the show....

[neverending]

In the vaginal bible, Liz said to use an over-the-counter antifungal cream while on the antibotics.... p 240

My cervix are fine now, and cancer free. That's the only news that I got today because I'm on my period. I mentioned that mobiluncus vaginitis infection to him though...I asked if he thought that he may have confused it for bv and yeast..because it you only look at wet slide for clue cells and wiff test...it shows bv and yeast for that infection. He said well, mobiluncus doesn't smell...but according to Lizzy..it does. And stupid me believed him, until I read in that book that it does have a foul odor. So now, I'm mad again, that he feed me bullshit, and I believed it ( at the time) lol.

I brought up hormone imbalance, he told me last time it didn't play a factor ... its just stress related he said..umm hello...what's stress do to our hormones?

He wrote me a prescription for the Nu? ring birth control someone mentioned in here...(sorry don't remember what it was called). All I know is I have it. lol. But, I'm gonna wait and see what happens here in the next few months before I try that...maybe I won't have too.

I tracked down the doctor who wrote that book about hormones, and found her clinic...its like $3800 bucks to start and the office is in AZ I think.

I think the vacation to Europe would be cheaper.

I think my last resort is go to sugardaddy who happens to be a microbiologist and handsome too.com and see if I get any bites. lol

Europe? You must have seen that movie SICKO?! LOL

[CanCan]

I tracked down the doctor who wrote that book about hormones, and found her clinic...its like $3800 bucks to start and the office is in AZ I think.

I think the vacation to Europe would be cheaper.

By the way, if anyone here reading this has BV, whether or not it is hormone related, and wants to get pregnant at some point in the future - - trying to correct the problem and have a successful pregnancy will be way more expensive than going to Europe. So expensive, that you can just kiss that European vacation bye-bye. I have a friend who is trying to get pregnant now, and it is costing her $9,000 per try every time she tries In Vitro Fertilization. So isn't it better to spend the $1000 now, and correct the problem before trying to get pregnant, than running the risk of not being able to? Correcting hormone imbalance sometimes takes quite a while, and many women run out of time.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/3/1680_51209.htm

[CanCan]

In the vaginal bible, Liz said to use an over-the-counter antifungal cream while on the antibotics.... p 240

My cervix are fine now, and cancer free. That's the only news that I got today because I'm on my period. I mentioned that mobiluncus vaginitis infection to him though...I asked if he thought that he may have confused it for bv and yeast..because it you only look at wet slide for clue cells and wiff test...it shows bv and yeast for that infection. He said well, mobiluncus doesn't smell...but according to Lizzy..it does. And stupid me believed him, until I read in that book that it does have a foul odor. So now, I'm mad again, that he feed me bullshit, and I believed it ( at the time) lol.

I brought up hormone imbalance, he told me last time it didn't play a factor ... its just stress related he said..umm hello...what's stress do to our hormones?

He wrote me a prescription for the Nu? ring birth control someone mentioned in here...(sorry don't remember what it was called). All I know is I have it. lol. But, I'm gonna wait and see what happens here in the next few months before I try that...maybe I won't have too.

I tracked down the doctor who wrote that book about hormones, and found her clinic...its like $3800 bucks to start and the office is in AZ I think.

I think the vacation to Europe would be cheaper.

I think my last resort is go to sugardaddy who happens to be a microbiologist and handsome too.com and see if I get any bites. lol

If you think that doctor is too expensive, find another one. Were you tested for your hormones already? Sorry for asking, but it is hard to remember everyone's story on this board. And what age are you? If you are planning to become pregnant in the future, you should definitely go have your hormone levels checked. Oh sorry, he said that 'hormones didn't play a factor'. That means to me that he did check them already. Or else, how would he know this. But my other question is: if he is saying hormones aren't a factor, why is he giving you a hormone ring?? Because that is what NuvaRing is. A ring of estrogen and progestin. It's like the birth control pill. But yes, he is correct, it could be 'stress related'. But stress can lead to hormonal changes, that are very difficult to get back on track. I would know, because I am trying to get back on track right now. It's not as easy as you would think.

I also got a phone call today from my doctor. She got the second test results back. I had a blood test done to check my progesterone levels again, except this test was done on my peak luteal day. Which is supposed to be peak of progesterone production. And guess what? It is WAY low. Like I barely have any progesterone. But my estrogen is normal. So I would suggest to everyone with a BV problem to definitely get tested for all your hormones. Especially if becoming pregnant in the future is something you want as an option. So now I am waiting to hear back from her to see what she suggests I do next. Maybe I can just take a progesterone cream? Not sure what to do, will wait and see what she says.

[arj75]

I got my culture back and they're treating me for Strep B. Although I know that this is a normal bacteria for a lot of women, I'm assuming they found a lot of it. So I'm going to be on cleocin cream for 2 weeks and then premarin cream 3 times a week for 2 months. Can anyone say, MONSTER YEAST INFECTION???

In the vaginal bible, Liz said to use an over-the-counter antifungal cream while on the antibotics.... p 240

My cervix are fine now, and cancer free. That's the only news that I got today because I'm on my period. I mentioned that mobiluncus vaginitis infection to him though...I asked if he thought that he may have confused it for bv and yeast..because it you only look at wet slide for clue cells and wiff test...it shows bv and yeast for that infection. He said well, mobiluncus doesn't smell...but according to Lizzy..it does. And stupid me believed him, until I read in that book that it does have a foul odor. So now, I'm mad again, that he feed me bullshit, and I believed it ( at the time) lol.

I brought up hormone imbalance, he told me last time it didn't play a factor ... its just stress related he said..umm hello...what's stress do to our hormones?

He wrote me a prescription for the Nu? ring birth control someone mentioned in here...(sorry don't remember what it was called). All I know is I have it. lol. But, I'm gonna wait and see what happens here in the next few months before I try that...maybe I won't have too.

I tracked down the doctor who wrote that book about hormones, and found her clinic...its like $3800 bucks to start and the office is in AZ I think.

I think the vacation to Europe would be cheaper.

I think my last resort is go to sugardaddy who happens to be a microbiologist and handsome too.com and see if I get any bites. lol

[neverending]

I am really getting tired of seeing one dumbass doctor after another. I liked the doctor I seen before this other one, but he is getting ready to retire thats why he sent my to this other dude (or he got freaked out when he saw my cervix..I don't know. I have my appt. with Dr. Dipshit tommorow to go over my colpo results. Although, I thought my BV was gone, he said it wasn't at my last visit, and that i also had the yeast infection. I didn't take either meds he gave me because, well, I wasn't stinking for the first time in two years, and I'm still not, and didn't want to screw it up. I have soaked my ass in lukewarm apple cider baths everynight though. Eating garlic cloves and fresh cranberries. Did you all see that cranberries kill e. coli. it was proven in a study last year..I thought they were just good for UTI's.

So, I have a question, of course, I'm on my period again..does anyone's here last for 7 days? And can they check for bv and yeast if your on your period? Maybe I still have bv, but the stinch is gone because I'm not getting any action?

And is strep overgrowth...is that checked only by a culture or is it urine too?

1. He sent you to another Doctor? I hate when that happens! I had a doc laugh at me when I asked to be tested for EVERYTHING including HIV. I've been married for almost 6yrs. now but you never know what the other does behind your back, especially when your husband is a big flirting jerk.

2. Eating garlic is good but I just couldn't do it. It stings like hell!

3.My periods are always heavy and yes 7 days.

4. As far as Strep, I should know the answer but I don't. I'll have to ask my girlfriend. She's an MT!

[arj75]

I am really getting tired of seeing one dumbass doctor after another. I liked the doctor I seen before this other one, but he is getting ready to retire thats why he sent my to this other dude (or he got freaked out when he saw my cervix..I don't know. I have my appt. with Dr. Dipshit tommorow to go over my colpo results. Although, I thought my BV was gone, he said it wasn't at my last visit, and that i also had the yeast infection. I didn't take either meds he gave me because, well, I wasn't stinking for the first time in two years, and I'm still not, and didn't want to screw it up. I have soaked my ass in lukewarm apple cider baths everynight though. Eating garlic cloves and fresh cranberries. Did you all see that cranberries kill e. coli. it was proven in a study last year..I thought they were just good for UTI's.

So, I have a question, of course, I'm on my period again..does anyone's here last for 7 days? And can they check for bv and yeast if your on your period? Maybe I still have bv, but the stinch is gone because I'm not getting any action?

And is strep overgrowth...is that checked only by a culture or is it urine too?

[Morphia]

I got my culture back and they're treating me for Strep B. Although I know that this is a normal bacteria for a lot of women, I'm assuming they found a lot of it. So I'm going to be on cleocin cream for 2 weeks and then premarin cream 3 times a week for 2 months. Can anyone say, MONSTER YEAST INFECTION???

[arj75]

So the news answered my question about breast cancer. african american women are the lowest risk to development breast cancer, but lowest survival rate.

They are at highest risk to develop recurrent bacterial vaginosis. Some researchers said they thought it was because they are stressed more easily, some had said from frequent douching....

I wish some women from Europe would come join this forum, I'd like to know more about their treatment options, success rates, and so forth. Who here has friends that live in Europe, or any other country for that matter....seems to me that we are getting the short end of the stick here.

[neverending]

Not obesity and BV but the bacteria involved in both. Could the bacteria that's involved in SIBO, BV, obesity,etc be the same type? I haven't done enough reading yet. I'll let yuou know what I come up with.

SIBO- CAUSED CONDITIONS:
Disclosed is a method of treating small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) or a SIBO-caused condition in a human subject. SIBO-caused conditions include irritable bowel syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pelvic pain syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, impaired mentation, impaired memory, halitosis, tinnitus, sugar craving, autism, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, drug sensitivity, an autoimmune disease, and Crohn's disease. Also disclosed are a method of screening for the abnormally likely presence of SIBO in a human subject and a method of detecting SIBO in a human subject. A method of determining the relative severity of SIBO or a SIBO-caused condition in a human subject, in whom small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) has been detected, is also disclosed.

[pympmama1]

I read up on this. How did you come across this Info? Very interesting! I found something very interesting that every woman here should read.

go to:
http://www.greenjournal.org/cgi/reprint/106/5/1013.pdf

Go to pg: 7 and start on the upper right hand corner. Do you see where it talks about firmicutes? Firmicutes is also responsible for obesity, IBS, and other things as well. Top of pg. 9
I didn't get a chance to read the whole thing yet, but I will do so tomorrow.

Also read:http://www.catalysisusa.net/word/clinical_report_Uzbekistan.doc

How many people on this board are overweight or slightly overweight?

I am overweight... one of the reasons my doctor thought I had PCOS and I have difficulty losing weight... even with working out and eating healthy which I do anyway because I just like eating lots of veggies and very little red meat but a lot of chicken....

Do u think there is a correlation to obesity and bv ?..... I am in the middle of reading your article now.