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Italianwife88
post Apr 17 2008, 02:28 PM
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Thanks Lori! It seems to be working so far... I'm just afraid once I stop taking it, it might just come back like everything else i've tried. I really really hope im that 40 percent. Tindamax does like almost a 100% cure for trich thats what it was made for i guess oh and GI tract.
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post Apr 17 2008, 12:36 PM
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Mela:I have suffered with B.V. for 4yrs. and I think it all started when I got off Birth Control LO/OVRAL.I know how you feel!I have been doing a lot of research this week and I have come up with a conclusion. <BR>Here it is: <BR>Birth control tricks the body into thinking it is pregnant by using higher doses of estrogen.I have never read the paper that came along with the pack of birth control until this week and here is what it states: <BR> Birth control may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the nutrient. Taking these nutrients may help replenish them. Folic acid <BR> <BR>Magnesium* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B1* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B12* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B2* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B3* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B6 <BR> <BR>Vitamin C* <BR> <BR>Zinc* <BR>reduction/prevention—Taking these supplements may help reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the medication. Folic acid <BR> <BR>Vitamin B6 <BR> <BR> May be Beneficial: Supportive interaction—Taking these supplements may support or otherwise help your medication work better. Folic acid* <BR> <BR> Avoid: Adverse interaction—Avoid these supplements when taking this medication because taking them together may cause undesirable or dangerous results. St. John’s wort* <BR> <BR>Tobacco <BR> <BR> Check: Other—Before taking any of these supplements or eating any of these foods with your medication, read this article in full for details. Calcium <BR> <BR>Copper <BR> <BR>Iron <BR> <BR>Manganese <BR> <BR>Vitamin A <BR>Interactions common to many, if not all.(WHY WAS I NOT TOLD.) <BR>Interactions with Dietary Supplements <BR>Folic acid <BR>Oral contraceptive (OC) use can cause folic acid depletion.1 In a double-blind trial of OC users with cervical dysplasia, supplementation with very large amounts (10 mg per day) of folic acid improved cervical health.2 Women with cervical dysplasia diagnosed while they are taking OCs should consult a doctor. Mega-folate supplementation should not be attempted without a doctor’s supervision, nor is there any reason to believe that folic acid supplementation would help people with cervical cancer. <BR> <BR>Iron <BR>Menstrual blood loss is typically reduced with use of OCs. This can lead to increased iron stores and, presumably, a decreased need for iron in premenopausal women.3 Premenopausal women taking OCs should have their iron levels monitored and talk with their prescribing doctor before using iron-containing supplements. <BR> <BR>Magnesium <BR>Women using OCs were found to have significantly lower serum magnesium levels in a controlled study.4 In a preliminary study, blood levels of magnesium decreased in women taking an OC containing ethinyl estradiol and levonorgestrel.5 Although the importance of this interaction remains somewhat unclear, supplementation with 250–350 mg of magnesium per day is a safe and reasonable supplemental level for most adults. <BR> <BR>Vitamin B6 <BR>Oral contraceptives have been associated with vitamin B6 depletion and clinical depression. In a small, double-blind study of women with depression taking OCs, vitamin B6 (20 mg twice per day) improved depression.6 Half of the women in the study showed laboratory evidence of vitamin B6 deficiency. <BR> <BR>Other nutrients <BR>A review of literature suggests that women who use OCs may experience decreased vitamin B1, B2, B3, B12, C, and zinc levels.7 8 9 OC use has been associated with increased absorption of calcium and copper and with increased blood levels of copper and vitamin A.10 11 12 OCs may interfere with manganese absorption.13 The clinical importance of these actions remains unclear <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Birth control may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the nutrient. Taking these nutrients may help replenish them. Folic acid <BR> <BR>Magnesium* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B1* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B12* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B2* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B3* <BR> <BR>Vitamin B6 <BR> <BR>Vitamin C* <BR> <BR>Zinc* <BR> <BR> May be Beneficial: Side effect reduction/prevention—Taking these supplements may help reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the medication. Folic acid <BR> <BR>Vitamin B6 <BR> <BR> May be Beneficial: Supportive interaction—Taking these supplements may support or otherwise help your medication work better. Folic acid* <BR>The people that produce birth control know that their products are unhealthy for women but they continue to profit off of us. <BR>Birth control causes an estrogen dominance and that can lead to many horrible side effects that we have INCLUDING CERVICAL DYSPLASIA. <BR>Here is something else that might help: <BR>http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym..._dominance.html <BR> <BR>http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym..._dominance.html <BR> <BR>http://www.natureshealthypeople.com/explai..._dominance.html <BR> <BR>http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vitalzym/myomin.html <BR> <BR>http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/progesterone-cream.html <BR> <BR>http://www.natural-progesterone-advisory-network.com/symptoms-of-estrogen-domina nce.php://http://www.natural-progesterone-adv...-domina nce.php <BR> <BR>http://www.womentowomen.com/symptoms.asp <BR> <BR>Birth control throws your body off track(hormonal imbalance) so we need to balance the body and put those missing minerals back in our system.Also B.V occurs when the acidity of the vagina changes.Notice how birth control depletes all of the things our body needs to stay acidic.Coincidence maybe? I THINK NOT AND I AM PISSED MY DOCTOR DID NOT TELLL ME ABOUT ALL OF THIS BEFORE HAND.Thank God I can read and do my own research.I just hate it's taken 4yrs. to piece everything together.I have been B.V. free for a week and a half.I just need to stick to the program and pray that the B.V. isn't smart enough to catch on to my program and become super B.V. <BR>Sorry this is so long but it might help! <BR> <BR> <BR>

Neverending:
Did you ever whip this BV thing with vitamin supplements? Please say yes, please say yes. I didn't feel like reading through 185 more pages to find the answer.
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post Apr 16 2008, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Apr 16 2008, 10:59 AM) *
Hey guys! I was wondering who has tried Tinamax and what the outcome was for you? I read that there is like 40% cure rate? thats crazy low and my doctor was adamant about me trying it first....? Today is my second- out of five days and I havent noticed like a difference yet. It leaves a really bad metallic taste in my mouth for a few hours after i take it, its disgusting.

Tindamax is a new-ish drug. I've never taken it, but as far as I know, it's in the same class as flagyl, and also has similar side effects (metallic taste, don't mix with alcohol, etc.) The only advantage I can see so far for taking Tindamax is that you only need to take it for 5 days vs. 7 for flagyl.

I also don't understand why this is a good drug for BV - when the cure rate on its own site is below 40%.

http://www.tindamax.com/Product/Efficacy.aspx

QUOTE(Italianwife88 @ Apr 16 2008, 10:59 AM) *
This was my first realy Gyno visit because I just got insurance. Also has anyone ever tried Loestrin 24 fe? It's a free sample of birth control my doctor gave me, I've never used BC before and I'm afraid of the side effects, ive heard alot of bad stories about BC. He also recommended I use rephresh for symptoms, does that work for anyone?

It's basically a lubricant that's designed to be applied deep in the vagina (comes in an applicator), and stay up there for up to 3 days. It has the right pH, so it's supposed to help get your vagina back to a healthy pH.

A lot of women in here have tried it, but I think the verdict on Rephresh is that it doesn't help, but it doesn't hurt. (Pretty expensive, though. I think it's $20+ for 4 applications.)

Personally, I was very excited about Rephresh, because it's an OTC product designed for people with BV issues, among other things. It just seemed like someone is paying attention to our problem. Too bad it doesn't really do anything. And you get so little product for so much money, and I don't like the way the applicator works. (It's impossible to squeeze out all of the product.)

Other than that, though, I do like the product. If I ever have dryness issues, I would use it again. (Or Replens, made by the same company.)

But I think the reason the product doesn't really do anything is because (as I've said recently) - manually acidifying the vagina doesn't really accomplish anything. Low pH is a symptom of BV (and other problems), but not the cause.

Getting your period raises your pH, having unprotected sex raises your pH - but these are very normal events, and you can't avoid them forever. In my opinion, a healthy vagina should be able to bounce back without getting an infection after something normal happens. The presence of good bacteria is what keeps your vagina acidic, so if you have the good bacteria, they will get your vagina back down to a healthy pH, after sex or menses.

So I think focusing on simply changing the pH on the vagina with outside means is not the right approach, and historically, just hasn't worked. I don't think it hurts to simply use a lubricant with the right pH (like Rephresh), but don't expect much more.


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post Apr 16 2008, 11:42 AM
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Hey guys! I was wondering who has tried Tinamax and what the outcome was for you? I read that there is like 40% cure rate? thats crazy low and my doctor was adamant about me trying it first....? Today is my second- out of five days and I havent noticed like a difference yet. It leaves a really bad metallic taste in my mouth for a few hours after i take it, its disgusting. This was my first realy Gyno visit because I just got insurance. Also has anyone ever tried Loestrin 24 fe? It's a free sample of birth control my doctor gave me, I've never used BC before and I'm afraid of the side effects, ive heard alot of bad stories about BC. He also recommended I use rephresh for symptoms, does that work for anyone?

thanks in advance guys!

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post Apr 16 2008, 10:06 AM
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hi mg86...
yeah...when i say i feel better, there isn't that much discharge as before. when i say before i mean before i took fem d. before the discharge would just freaking drip...drip...and then drip some more...all day long. it wouldn't come out like a period but it would just drip all day and it's milky looking, but it would also get thick, white, and gooey too. i guess it was the hormones in my body...ya know with period thing and all that. i also had like an itch and an "uncomfortable" feeling. i can't really describe it but i know i wasn't feeling normal.
how long did you take flagyl? mg? times per day? in january i took flagyl for 10 days, 3 times a day, 500mg. when i was finished i was told to go back to the dr and get retested with the "affirm" and it was gone but i knew something wasn't right cause i still had discharge...and then 3-4 weeks later it came back. i'm thinking maybe cause i wasn't taking fem d. i found this forum about 2 weeks ago and i'm so grateful!!! due to this forum i found out about fem d and bought it the next day...45 min drive but worth it.
i'm wondering...have you been tested to confirm bv? you should ....my opinion anyways. i've heard that trich and chlamydia looks like bv. not trying to scare you hun, but just thought i'd let you know.
i'm keeping my fingers crossed for us....we will bet this!!
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:15 AM
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Oops, I messed up the last one. I never did read the directions on how to reply or use these blogs; I was too excited about getting in my two cents. I wonder how many of the posters have the HPV issue. I was diagnosed seventeen years ago, so young. I'd been told it went away until many years later, symptoms again. I was so confused until I found my current GYN who said our bodies never completely get rid of the virus, only suppress it, sometimes it does such a good job of suppression that it's undetectable on their tests. SO many women are carrying it and never even know, scary. I have a thick vaginal discharge.....like the white stuff that sticks to the edge of the egg yolk when you crack it - not the clear egg white. You know what I mean, right? Every once in a while, I'll get an itch and when I check, there it is hanging out at the opening to my va-jay-jay. Nurse practicioner says slight infection when she looks under the microscope and gives me prescription for BV treatment. Culture says NOTHING abnormal, no bacteria or anything. WTF? It doesn't smell either, just gets thick and sometimes itches. I really think this is just vaginitis related to an STD, not bacteria. With so many of us scratching our heads and the virus being SO common and often undetectable.....maybe that's why some of us can't get any relief. This virus is rearing its ugly head, reminding us it's still there. HPV sucks.
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE(mg86 @ Apr 15 2008, 01:29 PM) *
hey again!

I haven't been to the doctor in almost a year, but I have been diagnosed more than once with BV. Sometimes though he would say it looked like a yeast infection, but it never tested for one. Actually, when this first happened I thought it was a yeast infection (I think my BV was brought on by a long course of antibiotics). I took Diflucan a few times and did some Monistat as well. When it never went away and even got worse, this is when I went to the doctor and was diagnosed with BV.

I have had this problem (whatever it is, LOL) for a little over a year and a half. I am not sure exactly what caused it. It all started in the spring/summer 2006. I was taking antibiotics for an ear infection, and I got a classic yeast infection. This was my first infection ever. It went away fine, but several months later I got a pap test that came back positive for HPV. It was the cancerous strain so I had to do that thing where they freeze the cells, cryo something or other. Everything was fine for a few months until I got an infection again. I thought it was a yeast infection because I was on antibiotics again, but coincidentally I also had a new sex partner. We were both treated numerous times and both tested for STDs. I am no longer with that person and haven't had sex in 6 months so I am having a hard time narrowing down what the root problem is!!

How about yourself?
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post Apr 16 2008, 06:25 AM
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hey again all!

Well I am sure posting a lot here today smile.gif

This is probably a stupid question but...soo sad...what do you mean when you say "feel better"..like do you still have discharge, just not as much?

has anyone used those vaginal ph testing kits? if so were the results accurate?

I feel like whatever I have is coming back...even after taking flagyl, femd, no sex or anything. There isn't itching, and no odor that I notice like through my clothes, no discharge on the underwear, but if I wipe the outer area with my finger there is discharge. Its not like gobs and gobs (which I have had before) - but it seems excessive..and not to be gross but I literally smell it obsessively..it does have a slight odor...but like I said last night I never did this before I had BV so maybe it is the normal smell??

I am just frustrated. sad.gif I thought that the femd and flagyl would knock this thing out (esp since I haven't taken flagyl in so long) - but now I'm not so sure. I don't know what to try next. Like people have been saying boric acid/tto is not a cure, and what I want is to pinpoint this problem and get rid of it.


i am posting a lot too here lately. smile.gif

this last time i was on flagyl was when i started the femD. To be quite honest, I did not feel 100% completely normal for like a month. The gyno I went to just told me it could take a long time to feel normal again. Sometimes I still don't feel normal. Sounds like a lot of the major symptoms are gone.....

btw, i think we sweat in the outer areas.....maybe that's it? i think we're almost supposed to be a little moist in that general region. what do i know though! smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 06:41 PM
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hey again all!

Well I am sure posting a lot here today smile.gif

This is probably a stupid question but...soo sad...what do you mean when you say "feel better"..like do you still have discharge, just not as much?

has anyone used those vaginal ph testing kits? if so were the results accurate?

I feel like whatever I have is coming back...even after taking flagyl, femd, no sex or anything. There isn't itching, and no odor that I notice like through my clothes, no discharge on the underwear, but if I wipe the outer area with my finger there is discharge. Its not like gobs and gobs (which I have had before) - but it seems excessive..and not to be gross but I literally smell it obsessively..it does have a slight odor...but like I said last night I never did this before I had BV so maybe it is the normal smell??

I am just frustrated. sad.gif I thought that the femd and flagyl would knock this thing out (esp since I haven't taken flagyl in so long) - but now I'm not so sure. I don't know what to try next. Like people have been saying boric acid/tto is not a cure, and what I want is to pinpoint this problem and get rid of it.
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post Apr 15 2008, 02:01 PM
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hi lori...
thanks for your reply! i do feel alot better with the fem d...just ordered 2 more from iherb, but i don't want to jinx myself!!! tooo early to tell, but again, i haven't felt this good in months. i will keep everyone updated on my condition while and after flagyl...
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post Apr 15 2008, 01:15 PM
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hey again carriebradshaw...

hahahaha...that's tooo funny!! humping your boyfriend's leg...lol. i hope this works for me too. and yeah...cheers to sex....wild sex! damn! you can tell i haven't had it for a long time...

sooo sad ( and sooo horny!)
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carriebradshaw....

thanks for your advice hun...i will wait then wink.gif ...but actually i can't wait cause it's been toooo long! i feel like a "bad girl" cause i want to have sex all the time. i guess when you can't have or do something you crave it more....lol!

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You're telling me! I practically hump my BF's leg during infections/period. It sucks!!! I know what you mean!!! I don't even know how you have gone 10 months!!! That's crazy. I think the longest we ever went was 1 month and it was NOT good for our relationship. sad.gif

Cheers to s e x! smile.gif

Good luck. I hope the flagyl + FemD works for you.....it has worked for me.
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:11 PM
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hi Lori and Carriebradshaw!

was wondering....after your treatment (while taking fem d, of course) how long did you wait to have sex again? it's been 10 months and it's pretty bad when you can't even have sex with your boyfriend!!! a little update on me...gonna start flagyl today, been taking fem d for about over a week. discharge is less and i haven't worn a pantyliner since day 2 of fem d. CAN'T BELIEVE IT...i always had to wear one. i hope this is the way to go. i'm keeping my fingers crossed...

sooo sad

Hi sad. I think I only waited to have sex until I was done with the flagyl.

Anyway, I think at this point, it's fair to say that most everyone in here who's had the best long-term results have used Fem-d as part of their regimen.

So now, finally, I think it's okay to say, Fem-d is definitely the right product. It's safe (when used as directed!), and looks like it's done more for ladies in here than any other product. (I do wish it was cheaper, though.) I think it is, as close as anything can be, The Answer. (But yes, fingers crossed, still, for everyone.)

I've been very careful, probably too careful, to never shove any theory or method down anyone's throat - all under that hoary theory that we all have different bodies. But I think this is really, just basically, it.

I've been talking about the importance of fem-d and probiotics in here for over a year. It took a lot of fighting to get myself heard. *sigh* I guess it was worth it.


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post Apr 15 2008, 12:08 PM
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carriebradshaw....

thanks for your advice hun...i will wait then wink.gif ...but actually i can't wait cause it's been toooo long! i feel like a "bad girl" cause i want to have sex all the time. i guess when you can't have or do something you crave it more....lol!

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post Apr 15 2008, 12:03 PM
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mg86...

well, i've had this bv for about 10 months. i started femd about a little over a week ago, gonna start flagyl today. hopefully it works...so tired of not having a sex life with my boyfriend. but since the fem d, my discharge is less...but it's still there. i hope we can bet this....actually ALL of us! keep me updated!!

sooo sad
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post Apr 15 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(CanCan @ Apr 15 2008, 10:39 AM) *
Hi Lori, how are you. Yes, atrophic vaginitis, not what I was referring to.

May I ask - what are you referring to?

QUOTE(CanCan @ Apr 15 2008, 10:39 AM) *
When women have adequate and healthy colonies of Reuteri and Rhamnosis and other beneficial bacteria in their vagina, their skin is thicker and healthier. And the inverse. If for whatever reason your beneficial bacterial levels drop - whether from hormone changes, rough sex, too much friction, spermicide use, antibiotics, etc. - your vaginal skin will get thinner. And this starts a cascading effect which can lead to a BV recurrence.

So the decrease in good bacteria is what causes --> the thinning of the vaginal skin --> which leads to BV?

That's definitely new. May I ask - where do you get that info?

It's my understanding that:

the decrease in good bacteria is what causes --> BV

As far as I know, BV is about bacterial imbalance. I'm not sure what the thinning of the vaginal skin has to do with it.

I thought that the thinning of the vaginal skin/walls can happen because of estrogen-loss (leading to atrophic vaginitis). I've never heard of the thinning happening because of the decrease in good bacteria. How does that happen? I also don't understand how the thinner walls cause BV.


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post Apr 15 2008, 11:59 AM
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hi Lori and Carriebradshaw!

was wondering....after your treatment (while taking fem d, of course) how long did you wait to have sex again? it's been 10 months and it's pretty bad when you can't even have sex with your boyfriend!!! a little update on me...gonna start flagyl today, been taking fem d for about over a week. discharge is less and i haven't worn a pantyliner since day 2 of fem d. CAN'T BELIEVE IT...i always had to wear one. i hope this is the way to go. i'm keeping my fingers crossed...

sooo sad


Ohhhh.....I'm impatient and waited maybe 2 weeks after flagyl..... smile.gif Probably should have waited longer. It took me awhile to start to be able to really enjoy it again -- ya know, not worry that it's causing an infection, worrying that i already have an infection, yada yada....ick. i'd just say go with your gut as to when your body feels ready. I think your gut sometimes knows more than any doctor does. But, that's just me.

btw, one time after a course of flagyl and diflucan, we tried like my last day of flagyl. BAD IDEA!!! All the meds must have REALLY dried me up or something because I thought I was ready and as soon as we started, I felt some 'ripping' and I started bleeding profusely. So, that set us back another 3 weeks or so. sad.gif So sad...... So make sure you're either really ready or lubricated....with some Sylk or something....
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:54 AM
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sooo sad and carrie -

thanks for your replies. Carrie - I know you are taking FemD, how many do you take a day, one or 2? I would really prefer to take one a day because it gets expensive. Should you be able to see normal discharge coming out though, or no? I think what I saw last night may have been normal. It didn't have a strong odor and I read somewhere that thick white discharge is common at the beginning and end of your cycle. Actually after doing a lot of research last night I started to question if I had a yeast infection, not BV. there is no fishy odor...but then again the itching is minimal. I was tempted last night to run up and buy one of those ph test kits...but I figured I'd hold off a few more days.

I too am getting kind of irritated with the tone this board is taking, but, I just try to ignore it. Thanks again soo sad and carrie!:)


I normally take one/day. However, I felt a little off last week and upped it to 2/day. I'm feeling more normal again (might have been pre-period weirdness or something), but I'm still taking 2/day until I'm 100% sure I'm cool. But I took 1/day for a couple months and it worked well.

My discharge changes everyday....it's usually white or clear. Gets thicker and thinner throughout the month. I think the lowest amount of discharge is supposed to be right after your period or right before. Can't remember!!!

It is very hard to tell the difference sometimes.....but I think after a couple episodes of BV, I can tell which is BV and which is normal now. BV is VERY thick and white and gooey for me......

vaginas - can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em!!

Hope this helps!
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post Apr 15 2008, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(mg86 @ Apr 15 2008, 11:54 AM) *
sooo sad and carrie -

thanks for your replies. Carrie - I know you are taking FemD, how many do you take a day, one or 2? I would really prefer to take one a day because it gets expensive. Should you be able to see normal discharge coming out though, or no? I think what I saw last night may have been normal. It didn't have a strong odor and I read somewhere that thick white discharge is common at the beginning and end of your cycle. Actually after doing a lot of research last night I started to question if I had a yeast infection, not BV. there is no fishy odor...but then again the itching is minimal. I was tempted last night to run up and buy one of those ph test kits...but I figured I'd hold off a few more days.

I too am getting kind of irritated with the tone this board is taking, but, I just try to ignore it. Thanks again soo sad and carrie!:)

I know these pills are expensive, and it sucks, but I spoke to a naturopath, and he told me in the beginning to take two per day. One in the morning at the crack of dawn, an hour or more before eating; and one pill in the evening at least one hour after your dinner, so they have no interference getting down there into your digestive system!

And also, even if you do have a BV infection and a yeast infection at the same time, which can happen - the probiotic is still important to take for both conditions. And just incase you have a yeast infection too.... the best thing and the first thing to do to kill it is to stop eating all forms of sugar. (At least for the short term.) It sucks, but it works. I did that, and I got rid of my yeast infection. Good luck with everything..
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QUOTE(lori @ Apr 14 2008, 01:47 AM) *
What you've described is called "atrophic vaginitis." It's not BV caused by a hormonal imbalance, it's just another type of vaginitis. CanCan, I'm not saying YOU didn't have BV triggered by your hormones. But what you've described isn't BV at all.

I think this distinction needs to be made. I think there are too many women in here who self-diagnose a hormonal imbalance, and even self-treat, and others who jump on the bandwagon, thinking, "gosh, maybe I have a hormone problem too."

I think if anyone suspects a hormone problem, they should be examined by an endocrinologist.

I think it's useful to discuss hormonal imbalance, just for knowledge's sake, but it's really a different topic altogether. I think we should at least make a distinction.

Hi Lori, how are you. Yes, atrophic vaginitis, not what I was referring to. But good point, it is a condition women can have, and should read about it just to rule it out. Or in. However you can have it at any age. Of course it is more prevalent as a women get older, when their estrogen levels drop. Or at young ages because your estrogen is lower. But you can also have a case of atrophic vaginitis just by not having sex for a long time! So if you went to see an endocrinologist, he may test you, and find that your levels are fine. A young woman who is celibate, who doesn't have sex for a few years, can have shrinkage or her vaginal walls. And because of this shrinkage can develop infections easier. But once in a longterm sexual relationship again will come back into a healthy zone - vaginally speaking. But until adjusting to her new sexlife, she may be unfortunate enough to suffer from BV, or urinary tract infections!

Getting back to my previous post, I was saying that sometimes for different reasons women can have thinning of the vaginal walls. When this happens, it's easier to get bacterial infections. When women have adequate and healthy colonies of Reuteri and Rhamnosis and other beneficial bacteria in their vagina, their skin is thicker and healthier. And the inverse. If for whatever reason your beneficial bacterial levels drop - whether from hormone changes, rough sex, too much friction, spermicide use, antibiotics, etc. - your vaginal skin will get thinner. And this starts a cascading effect which can lead to a BV recurrence.
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