[mel]

I looked in archives, but didn't spot this. Has anyone had a positive experience with salvia divinorum?

[lorewolf]

I heard that you put the stems and seeds and whatever lower-grade stuff into butter. As for dosage, check the Erowid site. Seems like people just substitute it for normal butter when making batches of cookies or brownies, and that's for a bunch of doses, but it depends on how strong you make it and stuff.

Oh, and as for the smell of it, you can expect your place to smell REALLY strongly of pot when you cook it. I love the smell, personally, but I'd never try cooking cannibutter in a dorm or similar place. It's bound to attract attention.

Of course, my personal first-hand experience is rather limited. I just remember the smell permeating.

[sybarite]

Boy and I split a hash chocolate cake last night. Yummy *and* mildly head-melty. Very nice.

[livelyupurself]

That's the going rate here in Southern CA as well, for some kind green. And yes, I second the suggestion of trying out a vaporizer. They rock.

[treehugger]

well, I'm in wisconsin. I do buy very high quality stuff. Mostly I think, because I'm old. I mean I only have one source and that's all I have to choose from. I know, "cry me a river"...eh? I'm sure cheaper stuff is to be had here...but at 38 it's hard to get new connections. I guess I just don't get out enough.

I am happy with the stuff I get though...it's pretty kind, that's for sure.

I've considered getting a vaporizer. I tried to make one once, from a lightbulb. It didnt' work well.

I wonder if I asked Matt, if he'd know where I can get some lower grade stuff. Eating brownies sounds a LOT better than coughing half the night!

So, a quarter of lower grade stuff...can I expect maybe $50?

[sixelacat]

Treehugger, definitely buy lower quality for cooking! Med. grade or lower, otherwise you're wasting serious money.

I've never really noticed exactly how much cannibutter it takes to get high, because if I'm cooking with it it's generally for more than myself (and I don't measure anything when I cook for more than 1 or 2 people, the aftereffects of cooking in a professional kitchen) and we're all pleasantly buzzed at the end of the meal.

Have you ever tried using a vaporiser for smoking? Much nicer for the throat, and perfect for kind bud.

[epinephrine]

treehugger, where the hell are you where a quarter costs a hundred bucks?!

[treehugger]

I'm curious about cooking with cannabis as well.

The stuff I buy is very, very potent. A half lasts me about six months. Generally only takes me two or three hits.

It just seems very, very expensive to use THAT much cannabis in a pound of butter. A quarter costs me $100.00!

How much butter do you have to consume to actually get an effect? Does the butter take on a flavor? Or do you use lower quality cannabis to make the butter?

What about while you've got it simmering? (love the crockpot idea)...but does it make a "weedy" odor? (I live in a BIG condo building, with neighbors walking up and down halls...)

I do think I'd prefer it in foodstuffs to smoking it. Smoking it is so harsh on the throat.

[epinephrine]

i'm planning a mushroom trip with two good friends of mine on monday, both of whom have never tripped before. one friend has experimented with other drugs (E, coke, GHB, pot, lots and lots of alcohol) and the other is practically a drug virgin. i'm a little nervous, as i always am before i eat the shrooms, but we're going to a really nice park that i love to trip in (beacon hill, for you fellow islanders) and i'm really looking forward to it. i haven't done mushrooms in ages. i've been feeling uptight and stagnant lately - i'm long overdue for a good mind-expanding shroom experience. i'm really excited to wander around and look at flowers and play silly mushroom games and maybe even go to the petting zoo, if we can keep our shit together!

[sixelacat]

No water needed, Lorewolf, just "pure" butter. On low nothing burns in my crockpot, it's just really, really, warm. I've never done it for less than a day, so I could be totally wrong about this, but I think it takes that long for the THC to leech out into the butter. At least, that was the theory of the chef who taught me this method.

God, I miss working in professional kitchens! EVERYONE smokes, from chef down to the Jamaican dishwashers....those were the days....

[lorewolf]

Yikes! Is that several days without water to regulate the temperature? I guess I was too worried that I'd burn the THC. I only cooked mine for an hour, boiling both the pot and the butter in water. Perhaps that's why it didn't work for me. Too little heat for not nearly long enough?

Yaay for Venusin' understanding what I meant even though I butchered the spelling I kinda welcome perma-grin because I generally would only toke around people I feel comfortabe being a total freak around anyway. I'm too socially paranoid to ever go to work stoned like some people are able to. I can hardly take being in a grocery store when even slightly buzzed.

Also, struggling to not smile is just hilarious in itself!

[sixelacat]

The best way I found to make cannibutter is to put a pound of butter in my crockpot with a quarter or more of weed and leave it on low for two-three days. Then I skim the top, strain the rest through cheesecloth in a strainer, and have plenty of mostly clarified cannibutter for all kinds of cooking. I like to saute veggies in it and serve with pasta for extra happy dinner parties. Yum!

[venusindisguise]

Hey lorewolf! I love/hate the perma-grin! It is like all of a sudden I think to myself "wow...my cheeks feel tight" and then the relaxing of the facial muscles is near painful. Mwahaa.

I am also in the sucky cannibutter makers...well actually it wasn't faulty butter it was that I prob shouldn't have smoked so much before baking. I forgot to half the browni recipi...

[maddy29]

lorewolf-glad i'm not the only one who apparently sucks at making cannibutter! yeah, those were some damn expensive and useless brownies. Very sad. We just kept waiting and waiting and waiting, and nothing ever happened. Very sad

[hellotampon]

I haven't really smoked pot in over 2 years. I stopped because it usually makes me really anxious. Not to mention that I can't stay awake either. Now I wonder why I ever enjoyed it. But when I first started smoking it was awesome- so, so fun. I never really enjoyed smoking and drinking at the same time though. I would just sit there catatonic!

[karma77]

Thanks for the responses. I am so glad to hear that I am not the only one who experiences this! I find that if I get absorbed in something else, I don't focus on it, but it's hard to ignore sometimes.

As far as drinking and weed go, I actually enjoy my high more when I am slightly drunk. I find that the alcohol makes me feel more "high" whereas smoking weed without alcohol makes me feel more "out of it." I tend to only smoke weed when I party for this reason, but every now and then I smoke it just while hanging out and watching TV.

[raskel]

*delurking*

I just sleep every time I smoke pot. I kind of wish I could enjoy it. Especially if i'd had any alcohol at all, I can literally just fall over sleeping within 1 minute to the point where someone has to carry me to bed because I can't even lift my head. If I hadn't had a drink I at least have half hour to binge before I fall asleep.

[lorewolf]

Karma, I get that sensation, too! You described it exactly. Sometimes it's stronger than others. It sorta does worry me. My friend calles it the chest-tightening. I also sometimes get prema-grin :D

Maddy, I had the EXACT same experience as you! I totally wasted like a ton of pot on cannibutter with that method, one that others swear by, and I bet it does work, only I don't know why I failed at it so miserably

We made sandwiches with the butter in it, and we went camping, so it was OK for us to get really baked, but sadly we didn't

Those were likely $10+ sandwiches with all the pot my friend and I invested in them.

[miss_jane]

I knew you lot would have the answers! Thanks. I think my friends were just worried that i'd choke or cough my guts up because I don't smoke normally.

[culturehandy]

*delurks* I agree with hellotampon, smoking would be a better option for you.