[karategrrl]

Hey all, I found a response to that article on Feministe.
Why a trend piece on small breasts is problematic

Interesting piece. I, too, stumbled over that ditty about small breasts=small body. Huh? Like one of the commenters, my butt used to be pretty dang big (hence I had the pear shape) but my breasts were always small.

Another person commented on there being cute bras in A, B, and C cups but no larger. As we all know here, that's just not true. Just as hard to find cute shit that fits right in AA and A sizes as it is in DD, K or whatever. It seems like most clothing is just designed for "average" sizes and screw the rest of us.

I can't say it's just small busties that have the clothing issues--hubby and I talk about this all the time with clothes--neither one of us is "average"--he wears 2XL and 3XL clothes from the "big guy" store and I'm in the teen stores trying to find "grownup" clothes in S and XS that aren't embellished with spouting whales, rhinestones, "Twilight" characters or other such cutesy shit.

[girltrouble]

oh, comedy!

[nbdx0645]

Hey all, I found a response to that article on Feministe.
Why a trend piece on small breasts is problematic

I'm not on-board with the article, but I'm really intrigued by the discourse in the comments section. I'm still chugging through the comments left by users. There is a lot of clutter of "who has the worst body type" which doesn't seem to be the best way to discuss the situation. I need to promise myself that I'm no longer going to compare my breasts to someone else's. I can't insert myself into their narrative. I have no idea what it's like to carry a different set of breasts than my own.

Many commenters are suffering with their breasts for a multitude of individual reasons. They can't figure out the disconnect that causes them to feel so ashamed. We'll work through it.

[Allison-Shine]

OMG! Geeeeeeeez, thanks for reminding me!! Yeah that sort of made me angry. I mean i know that i am anonymous and pretty much anyone could have read that being on the Internet and all, but still i did not like my story being published elsewhere. i mean, c'mon!

Kera,

You're "famous" now. I know its probably fifteen minutes more than you wanted but yeah, one wants attention from time to time but not that kind !

[KeraBear]

I remeber that one article & well because it pissed me the fuck off. It was on the Frisky webpage. They didn't talk to anybody here, they just put it out there & they even quoted Kerabear.

OMG! Geeeeeeeez, thanks for reminding me!! Yeah that sort of made me angry. I mean i know that i am anonymous and pretty much anyone could have read that being on the Internet and all, but still i did not like my story being published elsewhere. i mean, c'mon!

[Allison-Shine]

The article I referred to earlier was in the NY Times (two of my best friends moved there recently):

FASHION & STYLE | September 02, 2010
For the A-Cup Crowd, Minimal Assets Are a Plus
By CATHERINE SAINT LOUIS
Many women these days want to showcase their small chests, not pad them out. Retailers are listening.

It is great to see a niche be filled (no pun intended please!) and new labels catering to women who are embracing what nature gave them. They must have more confidence than I do and are more comfortable with what they have.

Interesting to see that some of these items are available in my size (34B) so I guess I haven't gotten too big for my britches (or these bras) after all! I guess I am in boobie "purgatory", not entirely small but still smaller in build to many of my peers.

I think if I was a winner of "natures lottery", it would be either the daily number or a scratch-off ticket LOL. At least its something. But some of my closest friends and my younger sister each hit the lotto !

[auralpoison]

Kalevra! Kalevra was farking AWESOME. I miss that dude. We talked much relationship junk. And Speedy. Speedy was a RIOT!

And keep forgetting to say I miss DJBizmonkey, too. I miss a lot of the Pre-Great Bustie Exodus peoples.

[pollystyrene]

Oh, yeah, bob. All able to have a conversation that takes place out of the porn and boob threads. Hmm.

[enfermera]

and bob 4 both

[pollystyrene]

I'm curious, sisters...I've been trying to think of men in the Lounge who haven't hit the tittie and porn threads...I've come up with Changus Khan (usually posts in the Canadian and political threads) and Billie Bonka. You veteran Busties will have to tell me if we've had any others.

My personal opinion (and it's only that, MY opinion) is that men are quite welcome in the Lounge... AND even in a space like this thread, IF they communicate whatever point they have to contribute and then move into another thread that is not by definition a safe place for women with specific issues to support one another and work out their shit. I don't spend a whole lotta time here either; I don't feel it's exactly my place (even though I'm a small-bust wannabe). There are a zillion threads here in the Lounge...I feel like any guy who spends a great deal of space in a thread very specifically for women (places where we yak about our periods or whatever) is ignorant to his intrusiveness OR he knows he is intrusive and just doesn't give a shit. The internet is a big place. Find your niche, even visit other niches...but let people have a margin of safely in their own communities.

Doxy.

Meerkat was a dude, right?

Mr. Fall Jackets.

Sheff, of course.

Turbomann.

[koffeewitch]

I'm curious, sisters...I've been trying to think of men in the Lounge who haven't hit the tittie and porn threads...I've come up with Changus Khan (usually posts in the Canadian and political threads) and Billie Bonka. You veteran Busties will have to tell me if we've had any others.

My personal opinion (and it's only that, MY opinion) is that men are quite welcome in the Lounge... AND even in a space like this thread, IF they communicate whatever point they have to contribute and then move into another thread that is not by definition a safe place for women with specific issues to support one another and work out their shit. I don't spend a whole lotta time here either; I don't feel it's exactly my place (even though I'm a small-bust wannabe). There are a zillion threads here in the Lounge...I feel like any guy who spends a great deal of space in a thread very specifically for women (places where we yak about our periods or whatever) is ignorant to his intrusiveness OR he knows he is intrusive and just doesn't give a shit. The internet is a big place. Find your niche, even visit other niches...but let people have a margin of safely in their own communities.

[karategrrl]

I just wanted to point out that JAG was incorrect in thinking that any criticism of him was based on being a man. This is a very welcoming thread, but I know that in the past you've had as many 'well-meaning but annoying' posts from large-boobed ladies as you have from men, and I think that the same rules apply. We've all come out of the woodwork over the past couple of days because it's been all exciting in here, but I usually just lurk unless I feel I have something particularly useful to add that isn't 'Oh woe is me, you don't understand the inconvenience of these massive melons!'.

Bless you, persi, for understanding. SO true!

Interesting LA Times article--I'd not seen it before. Of course, I don't like thier use of the term "flat-chested." As we've discussed in here before, there really is no such thing.

Thanks for the Bra Purse and Emergency Bra links! Funny! In the latest Frederick's of Hollywod catalog, they have a convertible bra that can be worn as either a bra or garter belt. Though it's one of those rare times it's advantageous to have a bra in a smaller size (so it fits flat around the waist) it does look kinds dumb when worn as the garter. I'd post a link but I'm at work and blocked to that site.

roseviolet, I could SO relate to this:
"It makes me wonder if they're incapable of engaging in normal conversations with women about non-sexual topics. Ordinarily, these characters seem stunted to me and pretty clueless about feminism and the female experience. They offer their perspective, but their comments on the perspectives of others seems veiled in condescension. The saddest ones are the guys who *think* they're behaving in a feminist manner, yet continue to fall back on the same patronizing bullshit that AP mentioned earlier. IF THEY ARE SMART, these guys will heed OUR advice (rather than just offering their own), and begin to learn from their experience here. If they aren't, they'll collect up their bruised egos and limp away."

You put into words what I've become entirely sick of in my own interpersonal experiences with too many males. No offense to anyone--it's been my experience, and waaay too often.

[Persiflager]

Correct, discowombat, I am a large-boobed lady!

I just wanted to point out that JAG was incorrect in thinking that any criticism of him was based on being a man. This is a very welcoming thread, but I know that in the past you've had as many 'well-meaning but annoying' posts from large-boobed ladies as you have from men, and I think that the same rules apply. We've all come out of the woodwork over the past couple of days because it's been all exciting in here, but I usually just lurk unless I feel I have something particularly useful to add that isn't 'Oh woe is me, you don't understand the inconvenience of these massive melons!'.

[just_a_guy]

I remeber that one article & well because it pissed me the fuck off. It was on the Frisky webpage. They didn't talk to anybody here, they just put it out there & they even quoted Kerabear. I mean, I know they didn't mean any harm & that it might have led ladies that needed a safe space here to the Lounge, but it also put it out there for the chodes to come a'runnin'. Thankfully they didn't.

I couldn't find anything from the LATimes, but I did spend a bit of time looking. Sorry. Perhaps it was from somewhere else, J_A_G will have to provide the link if he still has it.

The article I referred to earlier was in the NY Times (two of my best friends moved there recently):

FASHION & STYLE | September 02, 2010
For the A-Cup Crowd, Minimal Assets Are a Plus
By CATHERINE SAINT LOUIS
Many women these days want to showcase their small chests, not pad them out. Retailers are listening.

[auralpoison]

I remeber that one article & well because it pissed me the fuck off. It was on the Frisky webpage. They didn't talk to anybody here, they just put it out there & they even quoted Kerabear. I mean, I know they didn't mean any harm & that it might have led ladies that needed a safe space here to the Lounge, but it also put it out there for the chodes to come a'runnin'. Thankfully they didn't.

I couldn't find anything from the LATimes, but I did spend a bit of time looking. Sorry. Perhaps it was from somewhere else, J_A_G will have to provide the link if he still has it.

[discowombat]

Wait, wait...Persiflager is a man?!? *adjusts paradigm*

I think she's saying she's a woman with large breasts. :-) (please ignore me if that was meant as a joke and I missed it. It's been a hell of a month, lol)

[sukouyant]

Wait, wait...Persiflager is a man?!? *adjusts paradigm*



To be sure, there are at least two mentions of this thread in articles across the web, and passages of the thread have been quoted. i think it's come up before.

[discowombat]

Wait a sec ...
There is a newspaper article out there somewhere that has a link to this thread? JAG, could you provide us with a link to that article? I'd really like to see it. Not doubting you or anything. I'm just curious about why the author of that article felt compelled to write about this thread.

I don't remember where it was but I have heard in the past that our thread has been mentioned here and there. Kinda makes it awkward doesn't it? It reminds you that anyone can be all up in our business whether we like it or not. Despite the anonymity of the internet it does kind of make you clam up for a bit. Well, I do anyways.

[roseviolet]

I'd also like to point out that I've been posting in this thread (as opposed to others) because I was directed to it through a news paper article forwarded by a female friend ...

Wait a sec ...
There is a newspaper article out there somewhere that has a link to this thread? JAG, could you provide us with a link to that article? I'd really like to see it. Not doubting you or anything. I'm just curious about why the author of that article felt compelled to write about this thread.

[nbdx0645]

Oh and after reading a link from here a few weeks back I bought a bra in a 32b instead of 34a and it fits! I was pathetically excited to be buying a B-cup bra. Although this was a particular bra that I'd bought before in a 34a and I knew it fitted me in that size (I'm not a real 34a!). Anyway, the link was correct and it does fit me a lot better and 'moves around' a lot less than the 34a version I'd been wearing.

My bra size changed from a 34 to a 32, too. The 32A is a bit snug in the top of the cup (their sizing runs smallish) but I prefer my bras on the tighter side, since they loosen up after some breaking-in. I think I'm going to modify my 34's by cutting an inch and a half of back band and sewing on the hook and eye.