[KeraBear]

KeraBear, I'm so glad you found this place. Be my little sister?? <<hug>>

I would consider it an honor.

Oh yeah, and to those of you who started your periods at 10 or 11... yeah... that sucks. Looking back, i feel pretty darn blessed to have started as late as i did. But not so much when I was oh so eager to "blossom" into womanhood. If only I would've known. Ha ha...

Buttercup... i've had my share of teasing, but never eccountered an @$$hole like that guy who unbuttoned your shirt and then said what he did. It's one thing to be teased, but to have that happen from somebody you TRUSTED like that? Way not cool. You are beautiful. I can tyell that much from your words. And i've never met you.

And finally... you go, Ichirogirl! Well said!

[strongirl]

Ichigogirl, who is that girl in the link? She's smokin' hot!!!! I'm in love.

[strongirl]

Issy, OMG!!! You are the Buddha of breasts, you have risen to the highest level of consciousness possible!!! Wow, we should all read Issy's post over and think about it and try to internalize it - it's PROFOUND!

I try to embody the deep love of self and others that you describe there but I don't think I'm quite on your level yet. Or at least I haven't been able to articulate it quite like that. I follow in your footsteps, I strive to emulate you. I will work to open up and channel my inner Issy. My deepest thanks to you for saying what you did in the way that you did. You are lighting the path for all of us.

And Ichigogirl, thanks for the reality check and refreshing perspective through a different cultural lense. You are so so right - beauty is NOT just one thing! - and in appreciating our own we also open up to appreciating others', as Issy was saying.

Buttercups, sorry to be argumentative, but there IS something special about you and everyone who interacts with you in here recognizes it. I think the people who have hurt you recognize it too, only they react negatively due to their own problems and insecurities. It's not just about looks or the size of anything - it's an energy, a vibe, it's the combination of the whole package. Reread Karategrrl's and Spot-on's posts to you. Face it, girl - we're right and you're wrong, LOL! (I say that with humor and affection, just in case it came across the wrong way.)

[karategrrl]

Take a look at this picture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/235456..._d8cde945b2.jpg

That's one of the top-top-models of the world at the moment, ladies, and she's gorgeous, with totally real, and very small boobs.

Wow. Sweet. And CONFIDENT.

[karategrrl]

It upsets me deeply that it seems to be politically correct, and normal behaviour to critizise women who are thin and/or have small breasts, and to call them unsexy and "not real women". At the same time you have to tip-toe around the fact that being too fat is deeply unhealthy, and the words "fat" or "obese" are taboo.

Very insightful post, ichigogirl. I have spent many moments pondering the above stuff myself.

[Ichigogirl]

Take a look at this picture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/235456..._d8cde945b2.jpg

That's one of the top-top-models of the world at the moment, ladies, and she's gorgeous, with totally real, and very small boobs.

This post has been edited by Ichigogirl: Dec 3 2009, 10:04 AM

[Ichigogirl]

Hi! I've been reading bits of this discussion, and I'd like to add the view of a small-breasted girl who doesn't live in the US... it seems to be quite a different world!
It upsets me deeply that it seems to be politically correct, and normal behaviour to critizise women who are thin and/or have small breasts, and to call them unsexy and "not real women". At the same time you have to tip-toe around the fact that being too fat is deeply unhealthy, and the words "fat" or "obese" are taboo.
I'm not saying it should be ok to call overweight people names, but it's very strange that you have to be so very careful around the fat-issue - that is also a health issue- when it's totally accepted in a wide community to be quite rude, and personal, to healthy, sexy, small-breasted women.
I think fit, small chested women are very attractive, and sexy (I'm not gay, but in an estetic kind of way).
I'm chocked to read that some of your mothers WANT you to have plastic surgery just because you happen to not be bust-queens (but you seem to be queens in so many other ways, focus on that instead!). It makes me sad and I think it's just twisted. Insane. They should be so proud of you!
I live in Sweden, and although we do have PS here, and some women get their boobs done, it's not that common. My mum would be deeply upset if I had a boob-job, even though she's a small-chested woman and struggled with that in the 1950's -60's when Marilyn Monroe was the ideal... I think she's always wanted to be more busty. But to wish for larger breasts and to insert foreign objects in your body to get them are two totally different things!
I think the trend will turn. I think we'll get tired of women with perfect, plastic C/D-cup-boobs, and swollen ducks-beak-lips (they look awful!). It's like the beauty-ideal in some circles has become a freak-show, it's insane!
Sometimes I see pictures of actresses in the 1980's, with beautiful, thin lips and very small but perky breasts, and they were just so beautiful! Just look at Melanie Griffith, she was so much more beautiful before she got all plastic... and she's far from the only one. What happened?
I hope more and more women, and men, will discover the beauty in looking different, and of being natural. There IS beauty in all kind of looks, beauty is NOT just one thing.
Finally I'd like to share a - to me - surprising experience. A few years ago I spent an eveing at one of Stockholm's best nightclubs. One of those places where it's almost impossible to enter unless you know the guards (I have cute, clever girlfriends, so we got in anyway). I didn't know that then, but that very evening they had had an event at another nightclub nextdoor, arranged by one of the biggest glamour-magazines in sweden. All the special guests went to the nightclub I was at when the event finished, so the place was swarmed with perfect, plastic C- and D-cupped blondes (nothing wrong with blondes, I'm blond myself...). I'm a quite humble B-cup (32B to be precise, that equals 34A, or 36AA in cup-size).... I've never been as popular among the men as I was that evening :-).
It's not all in the cups, be proud of yourselves, you're clever, strong girls and that will get you so much further than implants ever will, promise!
Oh, and I saw someone here who wrote that she struggles with looking too young/beeing small; it gets better! I'm 36 now. I've always looked 5-10 years younger than I am, I still do, I will never look like a real WOMAN, but now it's finally more of an advantage than a disadvantage. I'm not that short (165cm's) but I'm very petit, and people liketo inform me of that (why?). And I defenitely wouldn't want it any other way (although i'm rather tired of having to convince people I don't lie about my age)! But it's a good skill for us eternal teenagers to learn how to convey your real age in a not too obvious way...
Love the way you are, with all pro's and con's (there are two sides to everything)! It gets easier to do that with age I think...

This post has been edited by Ichigogirl: Dec 2 2009, 04:23 PM

[spot-on]

I have to say I agree with Strongirl. There is obviously something about you that the other people are jealous of. Whether it be your figure, your looks etc they are obviously jealous. Women can be total bitches to other women out of jealousy and we all know that some men, especially younger ones, often treat women they actually have feelings for and care about like shit. My guess is that they treat you this way to suppress your confidence and keep you at or below their level because they know that as soon as you feel confident and comfortable in your own body you'll me miles above them and leave them in the dust. Because of your lack of confidence you are attracting these negative people.

Obviously it isn't impacting you on the BF front as you said yourself that hasn't been an issue, you've always had a BF. However that can also cause jealousy in some women, especially if you have a strong relationship with your BFs. When women see a weakness they will hone in on it and 'put you down a peg' because again they are jealous. What do you have that they don't? What do they have that you don't? and how can they exploit that and make men see that they are the better option. They all know you'd be the hottest thing about if you had more confidence in yourself, they see it, and they are afraid/jealous of it.

I'd also like to point out that they aren't really your friends. Sorry but friends don't make each other feel like shit, or point out negative aspects. Instead of putting you down they should be lifting you up. That's what real friends do! My advice would be to get some new friends! Don't let them steal your confidence!!! See shit like that makes me all the more determined to kick ass and take names. Alternatively play their game, yeah it's dragging yourself to their level but hey if they can't take it don't dish it out! Pick something they are sensitive about and when they remark on your small breasts then comment on them. My favorite though is to act confident and turn the negative into a positive. What exactly are they saying to you? Maybe us busties can come up with some one liners for you to cut them down?

[buttercups]

Awww you are all so sweet and inspiring, thank you so much. I guess I half-expected that everyone here has dealt with those kinds of comments, and the weird thing about them was that they seemed to follow me wherever I go. So as much as I'd like to believe I do live in some asshole black hole in America (hahahahhaha I love it Angie!), I have to admit that the common denominator here is me, since it happened in other states where I went to college (and I transferred from one college to another because of how mean the people were to me and the same thing pretty much happened at the other college too). Maybe if I had learned to be as strong as you Aithinne, and all you other ladies here, I wouldn't have come across it so much. My mom has told me before that the people you hang around with reflect how you see yourself. I would think about that alot bc a lot of the girls (and boys) I have hung around with my whole life have always made comments and put me down, and no matter where I went I always seemed to end up with these types of people. My mom insisted that it had something to do with how I act and how I attract people who have a certain opinion of me. Part of me isn't sure how that's possible bc a lot of the people I became friends with in college I just randomly became friends with because they were living on my floor or something, but who knows?

Strongirl, you are just so kind and that is so sweet of you to think these things. As much as I'd like to believe that, there really isn't anything special about me or the way I look except for the fact that I'm so much smaller than other people in every way, so in that way I'm different from just about everyone around me. I guess people also love to put down things that are different, so that could be another reason. I have always gotten the sense on this forum that you are confident and very content with yourself and being yourself, and that is something I truly admire about you. I found it surprising when you said that you are often surprised seeing yourself come off that way, because to me you just exude self-confidence and security, and I'm positive that others around you see you that way. It's a wonderful thing and so refreshing and inspiring to me.

Issy I'm definitely at the point that you are now, so sick of focusing on being small, yet at the same time really wanting to embrace it and love it. It's awesome that you just went cold turkey, cut out the padding, and are feeling great now! Anytime I wear just slightly padded bras that pretty much show what I really have, I am super self-conscious and I haven't gotten to the point where I'm comfortable yet. And I try to wear them as much as possible, but still can only wear them with like a sweatshirt or jacket over me and only when I go out with my bf or I'm staying home when I know I won't really run into anyone else from high school or any of my friends now. I do believe that people can smell insecurity on you though, and that could definitely be what's happening, you're absolutely right!

Karategrrl you are so f*$@kin hilarious! Hahahaha it wouldve been so awesome to kick them all right in the nads! Then I would have to comment on how little those nads were haha! I can see people feeling threatened by you, because you are awesome! Next time someone says something, I'm gonna picture myself kickin those family jewels!

Guess you all have shown me that I really need to get this confidence thing goin, I'm on it!

And as far as the BC pill thing for me, I really never grew much either on it. I've heard before that it has a lot to do with how much hormones and fat you naturally produce or something, so the girls with naturally big boobs are gonna get bigger, but the smallies really won't be too affected. I'm currently on Jolessa, so I only get my period 4 times a year (not sure if I would recommend it bc I'm on it for painful periods and my last period was the most painful one I've ever experienced, so don't know how long I'll be on it for) and my breasts do get swollen and very tender. I've come to enjoy that tender pain bc I know it means my breasts are slightly enlarged and they just feel heavier. I'm the only one who can notice a difference and it only fills out my bras just a littttleee bit more, so still a AA, but I do miss it when I get my period and I completely shrink back. So for about 2.5 months I have slightly enlarged boobies, but once that week comes its back to square one. No pill has ever increased me a cup size or anything, and everytime I switch BC pills I think to myself "this is gonna be the one!" but nope. Probably just in our biology and our genes unfortunately..

[karategrrl]

strongirl, you are totally right on with your comments as far as buttercups. You hit the nail on the head, girl. You reminded me of something--and not to toot my own horn, but at some point I did realize that looking back over the years, the people that had the biggest problem with me actually had serious problems with themselves, and felt THREATENED. It is a sick trait that people who feel threatened feel the need to take you down a peg, but it is SO TRUE. And yes, somehow strangely intertwined with others' feeling threatened is these assholes ability to also sniff out the least bit of insecurity, and pounce all over it. Buttercup girl, I do believe that is what's happening. It will take awhile, but I think if you act with confidence over and over again, over time these "people" will come to realize they can't fuck with you anymore. It will take time, and you may stumble a bit here and there, but you will do it.

buttercups, As I was reading your post about all the stupid shit people have said and stuff, I got a vivid mental pic of you kicking people in the balls (or other appropriate place). Just imagine the thrill of the look of pained shock on a douchebag's face as he realizes (through the searing, teary-eyed pain), "Wow, that little cute thing is fierce! I totally didn't expect that!" It's a sad fact that sometimes you have to force people to respect you.


Total topic shift: I forget who mentioned this, but you are NOT the only woman who got no breast growth whatsoever from going on birth control pills. When I started taking them (now about 4 years ago), my breasts puffed out a BIT and I was so thrilled I was, like, doing freaking cartwheels and wondering why on Earth I didn't take them YEARS before. I read online stories of women complaining how they'd gone from B to D, breasts too big, etc. and I thought, YESSSS! this is only the beginning!!!
Um..in two weeks, my body had adjusted. Back to AA Land.

This post has been edited by karategrrl: Dec 2 2009, 07:12 AM

[issy]

I used to wear Wonderbras with inches and inches of padding and sneak those little removable watery packets from department stores in my own bra, until I realized how sick I was of focusing on my tits so I set out to 'cure' myself by deliberately going braless with my small tits self. Well, it worked...triumph of will I guess. When the world didn't crumble and the sky didn't rain blood down on my shirt exposing what I was missing I figured, who gives a damn, right? I appreciated what I did have. Small, delicate nipples. A knowledge that they will not be around my knees, or cause my spine problems when I'm older. A couple of baby feeders when and if I'm ready. No matter what yours look like, I guarantee you have at least two stellar reasons to love them. I guess for me it was the footloose and titty free version of looking in the mirror and going 'they're good enough, they're big enough, and gosh darnit, people like them!'

And I've found that since becoming in love with my own breasts, there is not a tit that crosses my path that I do not love. I can literally not find a thing wrong with any titty. Which leads me to believe that mom was right, people who tease you really are just acting out on their own inadequacies. Like the lady said below me, they are just trying to take you down a peg. Or, more commonly, they can smell insecurity on you. I once read something that said 'Ever wonder why there are some girls out there that just draw attention, they grab every eye, people seem drawn to them and men flock to them, and yet you look at them going what makes HER so special? She isn't overly good looking, she might even be homely. That thing that makes her beautiful, it's not her hair or her face or her body, it's CONFIDENCE. It's the knowledge in her heart that she is amazing just how she is that flows out of each of her pores and makes her stunning'

The type of people who can only be up if they are bringing someone else down are those who see ugliness in themselves, not you. Have compassion for those who have hurt you as lost sad souls looking to soothe their own hurts with your tears. Dismiss it for what it is, THEIR PROBLEM, and you will be infused with something that no bra size or insult can touch, and that is self love, and confidence.

[strongirl]

Wow, I'm just blown away by all these intense personal stories!

Buttercups, that is just a bizarre litany of awful things that have happened to you! Ya know, sometimes this forum is a bit tough because we can't actually see or speak to each other...it's hard to get a real sense of the person. But let me toss this out for your consideration. What if...people are so horrible to you because you truly are a "shining star" -one of those unusual people who others recongnize on some level to be outstanding, brilliant, beautiful, special - and therefore they feel no guilt about taking you down a peg? It almost seems to me like you have a peculiar mix of recognizing in some vague way that you are, well, impressive...and at the same time, being horribly insecure. I've struggled a bit to understand that - I've wondered, why would someone so obviously smart, with a boyfriend who appears to be quite smitten with her (and most likely a bit intimidated by her, thus the ED), who comes across as totally attractive and adorable - why would that person be so down on herself? Well, after hearing that laundry list of insults, no wonder, girl! The things that have happened to you totally suck! No one should have to go through that.

At the same time, I can't help but wonder - maybe you did fall into an "asshole black hole" (excellent image, Angie!) or maybe people see you as so strong, attractive, capable, and special that they think it can't hurt you to take a shot at you.

Something kind of comparable - on a number of occasions when I've seen myself on video, I'm shocked at how I come across. On the inside, I feel like I wrestle with a lot of self-doubt and dissatisfaction. But when I see myself on film, I seem confident, happy, and in control. The contrast is very strange to me. Maybe you have something similar going on and you haven't realized it yet.

[nbdx0645]

Hey all, to follow up on a few questions --
For the breast enlargement program, I used Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto, and Red Clover extracts. I've abbreviated the program's directions. I hope that's ok. There's a regimen out there that has you take 1 of each extract 3x a day. Plus, there are topical extracts that you would use twice a day and massage into the breasts. In the beginning, it worked. My breasts were sore and my bras were snug. I was so happy for those 3 weeks. Then, my period came and it all went away, and then some. I couldn't fit in any of the bras I owned. I went out to Target to buy new ones, 34AA. I felt so guilty that I 'broke' my body. I was a small-ish 34A, but I could fit into things at department stores. Not anymore. It was horrible. They've stayed the same size since then. I cried every night for a few weeks. I also wondered if I gave up on the program too soon, but it didn't say anything about shrinking breasts so I didn't know what to do. I'm sure I felt the same feeling other women had when they've augmented their breasts and had complications or a bad result.

The worst thing about the program was the SMELL of the extracts. It smells like strong maple syrup. My coworker has the nose of a Bloodhound, and she kept going "Do you smell pancakes? I smell pancakes!" Another time, I was requesting a job from the photo studio, and she says "Oh no, I think the spotlight is burning out...can you smell the syrupy odor?" At the DMV, I was getting my motorcycle license, and the lady behind the counter goes "Eeek...someone's radiator is overheating!" Nope. It was just me and my smelly pancake-tits. Argh. Isn't that some form of irony?

For my Thanksgiving -- I still get creepy passive-aggressive comments from my mom. I wore a bralette with a tank top and a shoulder shrug to Thanksgiving. It was very cute. I was very double-A. My mom, the dumb broad she is, kept following me around saying "Oh, do you want my sweater? It's cold, do you need my sweater? Do you want to cover up with my sweater? I don't need my sweater." I kept saying "No, it's alright" and "No, it doesn't go with my outfit." But she wouldn't stop. It wasn't even that cold at my aunt's house.

Regarding birth control -- I was on ortho-tricyclen for a few years but I didn't notice a big gain. Though, I was on BC since I was 15ish because my sister got pregnant at 18....so I'm not fully sure if I gained with it or not. I really don't remember what my breasts looked like before because I hated looking at them. It's such a downer to recall all this stuff, but I'm talking about things I never thought about before.

[Aithinne]

Holy cow girls!! I go away for a few days, and you all spew your lovely selves all over the board! Lol...

As far as the questions, I think I've managed to scrape by in my teenage years by not caring (for the most part) what other people thought of me. And thank goodness too. I could have been completely destroyed and empty inside if I'd been any less stubborn about letting teenage stupidity get the better of me. Thankfully I kept it in my mind that high school is a very insignificantly short period of time, and that life would go on after it. Of course, I was sad that the boys then and the men now weren't and aren't so much into me, but I'm starting to realize that I don't give myself or men enough credit. I was being weirdly self-preserving for the constant rejection that I dumbly thought I'd always get. How sad. People noticing confidence is not a bunch of BS, even though you secretly roll your eyes at the statement during a self-esteem slump. Luckily I'm starting to get myself on my side, instead of feeling like I've got some split personality with one eating away at the poor little other.

The posture thing is something I'm starting to downslide on. I played violin for 6 years until college, and it definitely has made me get in the habit of sitting up straight. But I'm starting to slack off on my posture, and I can tell because my back hurts sometimes when I sit a certain way with bad posture for too long. One thing that I still have good posture for is when I'm driving in my car. For some reason, I don't feel comfortable when I'm driving (or even as a passenger) unless I'm sitting with the seat straight. I don't know how people can lean the seat back and drive at the same time. But then again, I am super short and seeing over the steering wheel is another problem.

[angie_21]

Wow, again I'm away for a few days and look what happens, I can't keep up! As far as posture goes, I find getting up and walking around almost always helps, anything to get away from the damn computer screen!

As for realizing I was going to stay small, that took a long time. It just never made sense, because a lot of the women in my family are larger, and because I've had wide hips since I was 12 years old, I always thought my boobs would have to grow to match them eventually (I'm still 35-31-43, dammit!). It wasn't until near the end of high school that I had to accept it was never going to happen. I went through an angry phase, partly because I felt I'd never be as attractive as the other girls, and partly because I'd wasted all that time thinking, "when my boobs get bigger, then I'll have the confidence to ask boys out" when I could have been just learning to live with it. But once I realized that was the way things were, I learned to accept it. I haven't had people comment on my size since high school, either. Maybe it's because I'm very careful to dress in clothing that emphasizes my waistline and hips

Spot-on, my boobs never grew with birth control either, not one bit! which makes me imagine that none of that fenugreek and other herbal stuff would ever work on me. I tried it for a few months when I was younger with no effect, but I'll admit I was pretty half-assed about it. I stopped when the herbs started giving me dizzy spells. That was enough to convince me it was a bad idea even if it had been working.

Buttercups, that's a pretty amazing amount of shit you've somehow managed to encounter in one lifetime! I don't even know what to say. Maybe it's something to do with regional culture variations, maybe you live in some kind of asshole black hole in America? I can't believe people can be so disgusting. I also have always had a boyfriend, and always had relatively stable, communicative relationships. I do think that having a small chest makes us a bit more open and a bit less likely to rely on our looks to carry us through life, including with our relationships. I also think that given how tiny you are, you were getting more jealousy from other girls than I ever did, which is always expressed through insults for some reason. Boys on the other hand, are just immature and somehow think they have the right to comment on our bodies, no matter how ugly or out of shape they may be. It's a dumb world, but if you avoid the idiots, things are a LOT easier.

[spot-on]

buttercups, wow you really have had some comments from some asshole people huh? No-one is perfect, even movie stars and models have some issue about them that they'd change (and do) so screw them! I haven't had guys make comments on my small boobs but I have had women comment, And WTF is it with family that think it's ok to comment on boobs? Seriously? Rock on with your small boobied self, you sound awesome rock the small boobies and screw what the world thinks!

Yep posture can improve how the breasts look, shoulders back and down, abs contracted both make boobs look visually bigger but that's mostly noticable when naked It does have an effect when clothed but mostly because when our posture is good we appear more confident and relaxed in our own bodies and therefore more atttractive I think.

As far as posture goes, I think I have decent posture but I've never done any exercises, so I would be interested in that too. I've always heard about how posture can improve the way your breasts look, but I just dont think its done much for mine haha. Let me know how that goes.

[buttercups]

Just wanted to get my answers in to these questions. I think I can def relate to what you said nbdx0645 in that I was constantly finding myself asking the question "am I normal" or not- and in many ways I still am. My sister is petite too but she has DDs (au natural) and my mom is a full B cup, so I really don't know where I got my small chest from. Growing up, I never thought I'd stay a AA bc no one in my family is this small. I always figured I too would be a "late bloomer" and I remember I used to tell myself that if I would just stop looking down at my chest and looking at my breasts then they would just miraculously grow and then one day I would just notice them there. Well...10 years or so later...they're still the same. I can def relate to what people said about feeling like they were missing out on some shared female experience, I've felt that way for as long as I can remember. I think I was just perfectly fine and happy with myself until around age 14 when I went to high school and people started making comments. Honestly, I never noticed my breasts (or lack thereof) until other people did. My friends used to say that if we were a sandwich then I would be the cheese bc I was so flat. I've had girls ask me if I shop for bras at Baby Gap and make other rude comments in front of others. I've had guys tell me that they "think" there are guys out there who like girls like me, but that "they don't know of any". I've had a guy at work unbutton my shirt (yes completely inappropriate but I was only 16 or 17 and didn't think to do anything about it) and point out to everyone how there was nothing there. I've had my uncle refer to my chest as "mosquito bites" in the middle of thanksgiving dinner with the entire family, I've had boys comment about my chest in college in the middle of the cafeteria, I've had a boy talk about how flat I was to another girl in Chinese in front of me and they just looked at me and laughed and later on he told me what they had said, and I've had countless other situations occur. Before any of these things, I was happy with myself, and I think that's what makes me the most sad, that I can remember being happy with myself and then I can remember everything falling apart with people commenting more and more. If everyone kept their damn mouths shut, I think I wouldn't have turned out this way at all. But yeah I'd say it all started at 14 and went downhill from there. On a side note, I've always had a bf and never really seemed to have a problem getting one (though I've worn padded bras for years so they didn't know what they were getting into I guess). But despite the padded bras I've never had a bf really say anything negative to me when he saw my real chest (as nerve-wracking as that's always been) and I always manage to have better relationships than most of the girls I know. I've never been broken up with (not bragging here just maybe trying to point out that there is love for smallies) and anyone I've broken up with has always wanted me back to this day. I don't think I'm anything special and I honestly don't find myself attractive in any way, but there must be something these guys like. My current bf says he loves my body and as much as I can't believe him, he doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon. So I don't know I was always told how ugly I was, but I managed to have better relationships than most of the people who swore no one would ever love this body.

As far as posture goes, I think I have decent posture but I've never done any exercises, so I would be interested in that too. I've always heard about how posture can improve the way your breasts look, but I just dont think its done much for mine haha. Let me know how that goes.

[spot-on]

lux I'm from England and I agree I think boobs weren't such a big issue back there, not like here in plasticland USA. In England I didn't feel any pressure to have bigger boobs, they were small and I was "normal". Here it's like "hey, there are implants why are you not getting them" or at least thats how it seems. But I just cannot do it. Like Karategrrl said they look half grapefruits bolted on, plus I hate that big gap between them too. They look obviously fake. And when you don't have much to begin with they'll look worse from what I've seen. I've only ever seen a few good boobs jobs IRL, most are just joke looking obviously fake.

If your EX told you your boobs were too small then good riddance I say! If you can't appreciate what you have then you don't deserve it. I've considered implants a lot over the last few years living in plasticland, but like you said it wouldn't solve anything and the health issues and maintenance with it scares me bigtime. I'd rather stay small.

I don't plan on getting pregnant and therefore not breastfeeding so I don't see mine changing anytime soon. Unless they come out with some miraculous new drug that is side effect free and increases the boobs naturally. Amazing that they had a pill to give men errections but nothing to increase boob size without undergoing the knife!

Karategrrl, nope boob enhancing isn't new. Even corsets were boob enhancing as they were underwired and pushed boobs up. It's nothing new, women have been squeezing in and out of constricting clothing for some time it's all for fashion and body trends. Hoping the smallie trend comes back soon. I did see a report a few months ago that said Boob jobs were down on previous years, whether that's accurate I don't know. Prob cos so many already have it done, and the economy, but I can hope it's a swing back to "au natural". All men I know say natural is best, so why are women doing this to themselves?

[karategrrl]

Okay, I just HAD to share this. My coworkers and I got into a conversation over lunch about "foundation garments" (girdles and the like) that women used to have to endure wearing. See this link and scroll down to the photo of the four seated women. The one on the left is inflating her bra with a straw. I guess bras enhanced with air, water and padding aren't a new thing at all!

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I didn't get really uncomfortable with my size before i was in my 20's. I developed early, and got my period at 10 and my breast were about their full size before i was 12. Not fun at all, so i was kind of happy they stayed small at that point. No one ever really noticed them at that point, probably because i was kind of tall and looked older than my age. I also don't remember there being that much focus on boobs in school. It might be a cultural difference, since i'm from northern europe. And i've seen my mom naked enough times to know what to expect. We are still the same size. But i have to say that also small breast are affected by time and breastfeeding:) Then again why should you have teenage breasts on a middle aged body?

Until i was about 15-16 i didn't really think about my breasts. But then suddenly all of my friends started talking about how guys only talked to breasts and about getting rude comments on the streets and so on. Sad as it is when i think about it now, i felt so left out. I felt like i was missing on some common female experience and i was lacking something everyone else had. Sad, but that's how my teenage brain worked . Then i got passed the worst years of terrible self-esteem, and what bothered me most was that clothes didn't fit me or i couldn't find a bra in my size. I'm still sometimes irritated by that, but i am A and not an AA now, so it's easier. I've never really been into the padded bra thing, and often went braless before, because most bras were so uncomfortable. To be able to find a small enough cup size i would need to go down to a band size that was too small and uncomfortable, since i'm not petite.

The biggest blow to mu boob-esteem was when my ex blatantly told me that i was un-attractive because my breasts were too small. On top of having lots of other problems with her, this really hurt me and my still not so great self-esteem. It got me thinking about implants and what not. I basically blamed all of our problems on my boobs, very clever. It's better now, and i'm getting happier with my body. I still sometimes think about implants, but not seriously, because i know it wouldn't fix my problems, and i would probably just get a bunch of health problems on top of it. And it's not like i have the money for it

On posture: as i grew tall at an early age, i was also uncomfortable with my height, so i have problems with my posture. I'm glad my boyfriends is worse! On those periods i've taken ballet classes and other dance classes, my posture has been much better. I don't mean 15 hours a week dancing, but a couple of times a week as exercise. Basically any kind of exercise that where there is focus on the core, pilates, dance, yoga should help. But strenghtening the upper back sounds good too. I should do that again, and hopefully get rid of some of my head aches. I'm a student, and i sit a lot in front of the computer. I also sometimes try to focus on my posture, all the way from the pelvis to the top of my head, when i'm standing in a check out line, on a buss stop and so on. I'm hoping it will make my brain and body more used to it. Hasn't done the trick yet but i'm optimistic about it!
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