[lightchested]

I've ordered from there- I think they ship fairly quickly too. Also good are figleaves and knowknockers.co.uk (specializing in A's and AA's, like lulalu.com and aa-lingerie.com, but not as well-known)

I love bras...I love buying, wearing, and organizing bras. They make me happy. They give me some weird kind of grown-up feeling. Like, "Look at me! I'm old enough to wear a bra!" Sure, I'm 38. But my mom made me wait so f***ing long before she'd let me get one (well, I guess I was only ten when I got my first bra, but I wanted one from when I was eight! those were two of the longest years of my life!!!) that I still get excited every day when I wake up knowing my reward for showering is... I GET TO PUT ON A BRA!

Yes, every single day from now until I die, I GET TO PUT ON A BRA IF I WANT TO! Mom can't take this back away from me. I fought hard to earn this rite of passage, and now it's completely out of her control. I'm the boss of it now. And the bra can be any colour I want- it doesn't necessarily have to be white- because I'M in control of the bra purchasing now. So f*** white! Yes, Mom, you heard me! I WEAR BRAS THAT AREN'T WHITE! So what're you gonna do about it... ground me???

As I said, I love bras.

I may have OD'ed on my St. John's Wort today.

[oceangirl]

has anyone ordered from bare necessities? they have a really big selection of A size bras and nearly A.

[lightchested]

I have some bad news, Alluna: I named mine Gertrude & Bertha (punishment names) a year ago, and they've still not grown! In fact, they had the nerve to get a bit smaller when I lost ten pounds last January!

Boobs. They are so completely insubordinate, are they not?

I have told mine time and time again, "Okay. This time we're really going to do it. You two are going to push yourselves beyond your limits so we can wear some C-cup helmets. I'll eat some lentils & almonds to help you out, but you've got to do the rest."

After three lopsided A/AA (right/left) years of gentle and not-so-gentle persuasion, pleading, arguing, and full out threats towards them if they do not comply (implant invasion), I swear to you that these boobs are the most recalcitrant little buggers I've ever known.

[alluna]

I looked down last night and my lefty said to me, "Hey. At least you're skinny." The righty concurred with the usual criticism, "Yeah, that's the only way you can pull us off. Maybe if you gave us proper names we'd grow a little."

[Vendetta]

He got pissed off at me a long ago for a couple of days when I expressed my preference for circumsized guys (I don't know why or who brought up the topic). I just told him that he had to accept my preference the way I had to accept his...

[karategrrl]

"anything more than a mouthful is a waste"- the classic. a guy once said this to me in his attempt at a comforting tone- i nodded wisely, stroked his hair and said yeah, dont worry sweety, i feel the same way about cocks. haha the look on his face was priceless.

Awesome. Simply awesome.

[loonydaray]

"anything more than a mouthful is a waste"- the classic. a guy once said this to me in his attempt at a comforting tone- i nodded wisely, stroked his hair and said yeah, dont worry sweety, i feel the same way about cocks. haha the look on his face was priceless.

haha, starship you are my hero for that

lightchested, all your recent posts freakin made my day XD omygod you are amazing hahahaha

[karategrrl]

Maybe we should outfit our boobs with a remote control and a joystick so they can play some kind of game with them from their gaming chair. Maybe if we had blinky pinball lights on our boobs then we could make them more fun for them. Whatever it takes...since surely our main goal is to please men and make sure they are having a good time.

Dude, would you like a beer with my boobs? Can I get you a sandwich and some Oreos to go with them? Is the lighting okay, or do you need it darker to withstand the sight of my not-quite-34D's? Whatever I can do for you, you just let me know, since I'm surely just here (on this Earth) to please you.

Lightchested, LOL!!! You are great! Bwahahahaha!

Starship, I agree totally withyou on the surgery thoughts. I have, too, had thoughts of how great it would be to go bra/lingerie shopping and parade around in front of hubby on the beach or in the bedroom with larger breasts. BUT...in the quiet moments of my life, it would hate myself for doing it, for not just loving myself enough as I already am. Can't do it. Me love me.

[Vendetta]

ups sorry about the double post

[Vendetta]

Exactly strongirl. I think that if breast comments make one get hurt, then I think the subject should be avoided. If one truly loves her own breasts, then those comments shouldn't hurt. I'm just saying this based on my own experience, I got hurt because I felt insecure about them. I still don't love' em so I just avoid the subject.

[Vendetta]

Exactly strongirl. I think that if breast comments make one get hurt, then I think the subject should be avoided. If one truly loves her own breasts, then those comments shouldn't hurt. I'm just saying this based on my own experience, I got hurt because I felt insecure about them. I still don't love' em so I just avoid the subject.

[strongirl]

Wow, lots going on here. I'm not even sure how to weigh in - my experiences have been so positive and so different from many of yours. Some of the men quoted in here sound like real jerks to me. But at the same time, some of what you/we women are saying sounds like yeah, no win for the guy, no matter what he says.

One point I think is important to make and lightchested touched on it in her "Small ones are okay" paragraph : my breasts exist to give ME pleasure. If men (or women) also enjoy them, visually, tactilely, whatever, that's great. But their primary function (now that I'm done breastfeeding my son) is for MY sexual stimulation and enjoyment. And anyone who wants to be lovers with me better get that right.

Some of you sound like the guy has to have a clear and articulately stated preference for small breasts in order to avoid hurting you. That really does seem off-balance and overly sensitive to me. Does he have to feel the same way about your haircolor? Your eye color? Your butt? Your race? Do you feel that way about him - that no other feature of any other guy can compare to him? That seems rigid and unrealistic to me.

I love my small breasts and I find many other women's small breasts hot. I also find many other women's large breasts hot. My boyfriend feels similarly. Neither of us has a size preference.

Sometimes I think the hardest thing is for the small-breasted women in here to truly believe that our breasts are wonderful and sexy. And even in the face of positive feedback, our own belief that "bigger is better" poisons the message so that all we hear is negative.

[starship]

"small ones are ok"- i can see how that's offensive, yeah. ive never had it said to me but would definately get upset. although i can also see it from the guys perspective- he probably likes big boobs (nothing wrong with that) but his world doesnt revolve around them so he is trying to reassure a partner who he knows is conscious about her breast size. admittedly, men arent always the brightest of buttons when it come to putting their foot in it.

"as long as it has a nipple im happy"- i dont really see this as a serious comment on a guys prefences/thoughts towards breasts. maybe its just me but it just seems like a thoughtless, half-joking remark. i've never really felt offended or given that one much thought myself

"anything more than a mouthful is a waste"- the classic. a guy once said this to me in his attempt at a comforting tone- i nodded wisely, stroked his hair and said yeah, dont worry sweety, i feel the same way about cocks. haha the look on his face was priceless. again though, i think its just one of those generic comments floating about that doesnt reallyyy mean anything and a lot of the time is said in a joking nodd-nodd-wink-wink kinda way, or as an easy reply to get out of a potentially tricky conversation.

"guys like all breasts, regardless of size"- I think this is true! (obviously there will be exceptions and preferences, as in all areas of life, but still true!)

"i like small ones!"- i think we have to be fair on the guy here. cos lets face it we are all (men and women) lead by society/the media/etc to believe that all men take a 'bigger is better' approach. we sit here and discuss how we are discovering (sometimes to our pleasant surprise) that this isnt true and there are infact lots of men who love small breasts- so why should it be any different for men. if they pick up lads mags/watch porn/step outside their front door(!) they are bombarded with boobs so maybe they are left feeling slightly abnormal for not being as obsessed with size as they are told that other men are. Plus it kinda is like theyre saying 'believe it or not' as lightchested said, because the majority of women do actually believe that men only like small breasts


on the other hand....its hard to think rationally and objectively about such comments at times, as we probably all know all too well. Im the worst at taking the slightest off-hand remark and over-analysing every syllable, always coming to the same conclusion- he wishes my boobs were bigger etc. sometimes theyre just being brutally honest, sometimes im being an oversensitive nelly and other times (i.e most of the time) he's quite simply a bit of an unthoughtful oaf.

I hate it when a guy im with even glances at a pair of big boobs. but if im honest- i do it too! perhaps its different because im looking in an admiring kind of way rather than a sexual. either way Id be lying if i said it didnt sometimes hurt.

i was imagining what it would feel like if i got implants today (after watching a surgery program). I know myself pretty well and can honestly say that i would probably feel disgusted with myself it wouldnt solve any of my problems. in the past ive imagined it in moments of weaknes and only envisioned the good feelings- bra shopping, sexy underwear, feeling like a goddess infront of any man. but now ive thought about it more deeply i know id end up depressed and feeling nothing but self loathing. it's kinda helped me to banish any leftover thoughts towards surgery from my mind:)

mynameislala- im sure it'll all be fine at the Dr's:). let us know how it goes though. scares like that really put the whole size issue into perspective

[ailurophile]

Mynameislala: Ugh!!!! I got the "enough" thing a couple months ago. I had a tank top on with no bra and I didn't think I looked all that bad. Tiny... but I thought I might be comfortable going out in public braless with that top. I asked him if he'd be embarrassed if I did that. He cupped my left boob with his hand and said, "Why would I be embarrassed? You have enough." as he bent over and looked at it as if examining it.

[lightchested]

Any guy saying he prefers small breasts is cool. I have no problems with that statement.

The lukewarm responses I was referring to are:

"Small ones are okay": This is lukewarm at its best. It implies, to me, a grudging acceptance, like, "Well, if that's the best you can do...that's okay." How big of him to be so understanding. Because of course our breast size is so important to HIM (any man). Who are THEY when it comes to our breasts? Who has to deal with the fibrocystic pain? Who has to worry about cancer? Who has to find a bra that fits??? Where is this man in all that? He just wants a toy. To comment on a gift like that is just rude. Imagine giving someone a Christmas gift, and they say, "This is okay." That's not good enough. Fake it if you have to, but for God's sake show a little respect and gratitude about a woman's breasts. That's how I feel.

"As long as it has a nipple I'm happy": This offends me for two reasons. One is that many times guys say this when they don't know if a woman actually still has her nipples. Women who have had breast surgery sometimes lose theirs, so I find it EXTREMELY offensive when a man acts as though this is all that is important TO THEM for some kind of entertainment purposes, when that entertainment value is nothing compared to how important those nipples are/were to the women who have lost theirs. And to hear this must be a knife. I hope no women who has had hers removed has ever had to hear this phrase, but I doubt it. Even if they heard it BEFORE they had to have theirs removed (we've all heard it)...how would that make a woman feel when she is faced with a mastectomy, thinking back on these heartless comments that men have made? Now besides that reason, I just find it crude that we "owe" men some kind of entertainment, and apparently the nipple is "the least we owe". I just don't think we owe them a god ****** thing. Not even a nipple. If they can't be happy without one, then **** them.

"Anything more than a mouthful is a waste": This says to me, "I wish there were more, but oh well...good enough." (I hope I'm not making anyone feel bad...I know I'm overly sensitive on these things and see them negatively)

"Guys like all breasts, regardless of size": This says to me, "We PREFER big ones of course, but we manage to find some merit in the small ones." (I know I'm sensitive!) It doesn't tell me they LIKE small ones necessarily, but that they lump us into the "general breast" category, to which they can apply their "breasts are good" rule. But it doesn't give me the impression a guy is happy to be with ME (or rather with MINE), but rather that he's happy he is with BREASTS. Maybe I am a narcissist, but I want someone to say, "DAMN! LOOK AT THOSE!" about my particular breast configuration, not "I LIKE BREASTS AND THOSE THINGS YOU'RE SPORTING THERE LOOK LIKE THEY FALL WITHIN THE GENERAL BREAST CATEGORY."

"I like small ones", said in a "wow! believe it or not!" tone of voice that denotes some kind of FAVOR that the man is doing for me: This is different than "I prefer small ones". When said in the tone of voice I described it is more of a "If you can believe this...I will actually find a way to amuse myself with small ones!" In the same way someone might say, "I like the smell of gasoline!" Is gasoline really what anyone WISHES to be smelling at any particular moment? It's more like some people find it surprisingly bearable, in its own way. But when people say they like the smell, they use a tone of voice that says, "Believe it or not..." as though it is hard to wrap one's mind around liking such a smell. This is the tone of voice I'm referring to that, when accompanying, "I like small breasts!" makes my skin crawl.

Overall, the idea of any guy making a comment about breasts from a "man's point of view" I find revoltingly patronizing. Why do they think we care what they think? Do they think we sit around worried about how THEY feel about what's on OUR bodies? Do they think we have nothing better to do with our time than worry about whether or not we're providing enough entertainment for them? Maybe we should outfit our boobs with a remote control and a joystick so they can play some kind of game with them from their gaming chair. Maybe if we had blinky pinball lights on our boobs then we could make them more fun for them. Whatever it takes...since surely our main goal is to please men and make sure they are having a good time.

Dude, would you like a beer with my boobs? Can I get you a sandwich and some Oreos to go with them? Is the lighting okay, or do you need it darker to withstand the sight of my not-quite-34D's? Whatever I can do for you, you just let me know, since I'm surely just here (on this Earth) to please you.

[Vendetta]

I agree with you maricat in some ways, it feels like they can't win ever. I've been there, I have over-analyzed every sentence about my breasts and got hurt. I won't do that again. I'll just accept that everyone has their preferences and I don't want to know which are them.

[MariCat187]

About the "lukewarm responses" - Hmm... Forgive me if I seem to be in the minority about this subject, but I don't feel that they are "pity answers". I know honesty is the best thing, and that's great that your boyfriend can be really honest with you mynameislala, though know that must have hurt.... it would hurt me too! But maybe the men who say that they really don't prefer the bigger breasts really mean it? I would feel bad for the man - if he says he prefers bigger ones, the female gets hurt. If he says that he does like that the female has the smaller ones, the female gets hurt. It'd be like.... he can't win either way, lol.

If they are not the answers you want to hear, then what would you prefer (and the "you" isn't directed to one specific person, they're for everyone lol)?

Maybe I don't grasp the concept because I've been around males who honestly do prefer A-cups. I have a male friend who went out with someone with a C-cup, and that was even too big for him. My boyfriend tells me all the time how I have the "best boobs ever" (34A), and how he prefers A-cups as well..... And this is a guy who (when we were single) had a drunk and naked girl in his bed (who was like, a C/D-cup or something), and he DID NOT take advantage of it, and he slept on the couch.

Anyway, I would definitely understand and be hurt if my boyfriend was like, "I love C cups, but yours are good too." THAT would be a pity answer to me. But something like "I like small boobs!" and really meaning it? I don't think so.... :\

Am I making any sense, or am I just babbling? lol.

::goes back to forum stalking::

[mynameislala]

I get the thing bout "lukewarm" responses. I also hate how men always say those cliché phrases thinking they're somewhat saving our self esteems or something. I really wish they kept their mouths shut sometimes. Those are like pity answers... I can relate because it's always the same thing "Oh, but as long as it fits in my palm it's ENOUGH". Enough... like it's the minimum for it to be a good breast. Such fucking shit! I'm sorry but it just pisses me off, because then they are ogling the breasts in Maxim or whatever and they just say "oh, no, no, they're just so big it's impossible not to notice, it doesn't mean that I want you to look like that!". Yeah right.

My boyfriend has told me "I love your breasts, really they are hot, but I do prefer bigger ones". I appreciate honesty. Really. But I hate feeling like second best or something. I did make a male-like mistake once, though. I was younger, and we were just beginning to date. I was telling him a story that once I walked into my sister and her then boyfriend having sex. I hated that boyfriend of hers, he was so annoying, so I told him "Ugh, he was so ugly and I didn't like his personality, but at least he had SOMETHING to be proud about". I said that joking, not really thinking much. Yeah, he was big, but I would never want to be with someone too big (ouch). My boyfriend however, sometimes, will still get jealous if he remembers that. I've tried reassuring him that he pleases me a great deal as it is, and that too big is surely painful. I've also told him that the guy was really ugly and most of all ANNOYING as hell, which are huge turn offs. That my turn on are faces, mostly eyes, and my boyfriend has deep brown eyes with thick long lashes that I just love. I, however have never said something like "Oh honey, I LOVE your penis, but I prefer bigger". Nah, because he's the perfect size. I know this is cruel, but at least he has experienced the insecurity I've felt when he has made comments about big breasts or when he says something like "Your breasts are smaller, I wish they'd go back to when they were bigger".

But maybe he doesn't really like big big breasts too much or maybe he doesn't really mind much, because thinking about it, most of his exes have small breasts. One of them is actually flat chested, and damn am I jealous. She has a gorgeous slim figure and an even more gorgeous face and smile. But anyway, the point is that maybe men just say things or don't really care.

Sometimes I really think that guys just have problems with semantics. They really just don't know how to pick the right words to what they mean. Maybe when they say "enough" they mean "they're hot and I wouldn't want them any other way". But then again, maybe I'm just optimistic.

Anyway, now I have other issues about my breasts that are more important than size. Yesterday I started feeling some pain in my lef breast when I touched it. It's kind of swollen I think, and I did feel a little hard something inside, though it doesn't feel like a lump, more like a fibrous flat patch of breast tissue. But still I'm scared as hell and I'm visiting the gyno ASAP. I'm too young and I'd be crushed if I never get to breastfeed.

[ailurophile]

Just quickly b/c I'm at work....

Lightchested: Cute name by the way..... "Lukewarm" response. Good way to put it. Also, she must have changed your password. I cannot get into your profile.

I do feel that he is only accepting my boobs as part of the package. I am sure he would have preferred if they were at least of average size. My ex didn't even blink when he saw big breasts. Didn't phase him one bit. (Probably the only thing I miss about him, though.) Current bf notices big breasts and apparently is now comfortable enough to exclaim in my presence. I saw him "notice" a well-endowed girl in a bikini on our first date. We walked around beachshops and some women were still in swimsuit tops. Let's hope I stopped the "whoa-ing" early enough though. I will be heartbroken if he didn't understand that it hurts me and does it again.

Karatgrrl: The conversations we have are not really all that open. He is not the communicative type. It's like I have to force him to talk about it...like he ends up with no choice. As soon as I hear what I want to, I drop it. He was in a pretty bad marriage/divorce apparently, which we have not talked about. I found out through someone else. I talk about only some things that bother me. There are many other things I'd like to talk about but I don't want to be knitpicky. I know I can be and I don't want to ruin it. But the Whoa-ing thing had to come up and then it truly bothered me when he said they were "alright". If they are just alright, don't bother to touch them. You know??

[karategrrl]

I "MAY" be a little sensitive on this issue (!!!!!) but I've just heard too many things throughout my life- comments directed at me, or just comments that I hear or read- or men's reactions that I view- that just don't give me a good feeling about even lukewarm comments towards my or any woman's small breasts (or small breasts in general).

To me, comments like "Small ones are okay", "As long as it has a nipple I'm happy", "Anything more than a mouthful is a waste", "Guys like all breasts, regardless of size", or even "I like small ones", said in a "wow! believe it or not!" tone of voice that denotes some kind of FAVOR that the man is doing for me, or suggests that he is some kind of one-off, bucking the system by claiming to like small ones, I feel like men are saying, "It's okay. I'll take small if small is the best you can come up with, but we both know I wish you had big ones." That kind of "reassurance" is NOT what I want to hear! Not at ALL!!!

You're NOT being sensitive. This is something I have always felt, and commented on here. I agree totally!

I will check out the plentyoffish posting, but have to do it from home, not work!