[karategrrl]

DeeRayy, your story totally made my day, and I will probably be thinking about that for years! thank you for sharing--whether he knows it or not, that sweet guy has not only boosted (boob-sted??) you up but all of us as well. It's nice just knowing that there are people out there who can appreciate what we have.

Secretsight, I can relate to the breast envy thing. This is tough, especially when it's someone you come into contact with a lot in person, on FB, whatever. One of the things we've touched on in this forum is the fact that, for whatever reason, people (okay, mostly men) seem to make a big deal out of breasts, especially big ones--at least publicly. I dont' see anything significantly changing that in my lifetime. Don't feel stupid for feeling the way you do--they're your feelings and you are entitled to them! (Ha, enTITled.)

Men--and people in general--can and do appreciate all kinds of boobs and bodies and asses and everything. Proof of this is DeeRayy's new guy! Woot! But the big boob thing seems to be something that is much more popular or acceptable among people with big mouths and strong opinions that they make known.

For your own sanity and happiness, remember your own awesomeness and hotness especially when you are around her and, not to be catty--but this may really help you-- is there some physicial characteristic you possess that she does not? Keeping in mind your great hair, smile, eyes, legs, skin, pretty hands, even something fun you are wearing, can help build your confidence when you are around her. That said, if you have to limit certain situations with this person, do so. You're worth it.

I won't lie--this IS tough, but remember that it's something that many, many people must go through in some fashion. Some short guys are envious of tall guys, and think the girls only like them for that. Some people think they're too pale and envy those with mocha skin. Some people think blue eyes are best and envy those with blue eyes. Some people are missing a leg and may envy those with two, who can run easily. It goes on and on. I could guarantee that at some point in your life, someone envied YOU and/or attention YOU got.

[skindeep1991]

Now, as for me, I have a question about breast envy I feel like such a fool because of this! I have a friend who is a 36C or 34D depending on the bra, and she loves her breasts... she loves wearing tight fitting or low cut tops, and when I'm around her and around men, I feel so invisible. I know, it's stupid... but I also get a bit jealous when guys seem to pay more attention to her or call her beautiful and hot, or when they "like" or comment her pictures on Facebook (coincidentially only the ones in which her breasts are noticeable by either cleavage or tight clothes).

It's such a stupid situation... because for one these guys can't help finding her attractive and it's ok, and also because I know I'm pretty, smart, fun and talented, too, and yet I let some stupid guys' opinion make me feel down, I take it personally, and I know receiving that kind of attention is also creepy and not important, and yet sometimes I honestly find myself wanting it... has anyone gone through something like this? And how can I "de-stupidify" myself? I mean, I'm not even looking for a boyfriend, and yet I care about male attention... ugh... I make myself so angry sometimes...

I know exactly how you feel. I act exactly the same, I'm in a relationship but male attention is nice, It makes you feel desirable. And I used to have a friend DD that used to wear next to nothing whenever we went out and especially around my partner. It used to really put me off introducing her to anyone. But my envy is ridiculous to the point I don't want my boyfriend meeting half the girls I know in case he'd find them attractive. I think I'm still a little hurt about previous issues with him though.

Sadly enough I don't really know how you can 'de-stupidify' yourself because I haven't been able to, It's just there in my brain. I fixed that issue by not being friends with her anymore because she wasn't a very good friend but I suppose maybe you could talk to your friend about it? These situations clearly put a wedge between the friendship. I know this so called friend and I used to compete constantly. Well I'd feel like we were competing all the time because she enjoyed the attention and I like attention sometimes too. It wasn't a healthy friendship. I don't know much about your friendship or what this girl is like but if you guys are close maybe you could mention how you feel about it. She'll probably reassure you and talk about her insecurities as well which will make you feel better to know you're not alone. I think what we forget sometimes is that EVERYONE has insecurities regardless of what they are. so even though you're envying her breasts she might envy something about you that she's insecure about.

Sorry if I'm not much help I just replied to let you know you're not alone and I go through these crazy envying moments all the time.
we're only human. "grass is always greener" and what not
x

[secretsights88]

I'm so happy for you, Dee!!! I know this was a huge step for you, but I'm so glad that your guy was so appreciative. I'm sure it feels like a small boobie victory for you... I hope it keeps going well for you, because honestly, the pleasure that comes from boobie loving is tremendous... I've even had orgasms just by that, when the right guy has done the right things... I didn't know it was possible, and it was... I don't always have orgasms by breast stimulation, but I've had, and it was awesome! And still, even when there are no orgasms, breast stimulation is still awesome.

Now, as for me, I have a question about breast envy I feel like such a fool because of this! I have a friend who is a 36C or 34D depending on the bra, and she loves her breasts... she loves wearing tight fitting or low cut tops, and when I'm around her and around men, I feel so invisible. I know, it's stupid... but I also get a bit jealous when guys seem to pay more attention to her or call her beautiful and hot, or when they "like" or comment her pictures on Facebook (coincidentially only the ones in which her breasts are noticeable by either cleavage or tight clothes).

It's such a stupid situation... because for one these guys can't help finding her attractive and it's ok, and also because I know I'm pretty, smart, fun and talented, too, and yet I let some stupid guys' opinion make me feel down, I take it personally, and I know receiving that kind of attention is also creepy and not important, and yet sometimes I honestly find myself wanting it... has anyone gone through something like this? And how can I "de-stupidify" myself? I mean, I'm not even looking for a boyfriend, and yet I care about male attention... ugh... I make myself so angry sometimes...

[KeraBear]

happy story time!

i've been going on dates with a new, really sweet guy (the one mentioned earlier, he managed to make his way out of the friend zone) and after a few more dates i felt comfortable enough with him to bring him back to my apartment. we didn't have sex or anything, we just canoodled on my couch for a bit. but while he was kissing my neck he started you know, moving downwards and he pulled my blouse down until one of my boobies was exposed and started kissing it, but i got embarrassed and tried to pull it back. but instead of letting me he cupped them both with his hands and said, "babe, please don't be embarrassed, these are perfect". then he proceeded to take off my entire shirt and bra and continued to kiss and fondle them.

sooo, this was important because it was the first time i've ever let a guy see my breasts! i'm so happy that I was finally able to do it, because just last month i thought i would never be able to be completely naked with a guy because of my boobie issues. we've seen each other multiple times since this incident and i still blush and cover them a little when he first takes my bra off, but he just says something sweet like, "i don't get why you cover them up, all it does is block my tongue.". or if it comes off in the heat of the moment and i get self conscious after i've processed that i'm topless and ask to put my bra back on, he simply says, "no! i'm not finished with them yet!". and to top it off, the first time he saw them all he said was, "don't mind if i do!" with the biggest smile on his face. he really is a gem and i'm soo thankful to have met him. i know that finding a partner who adores your body is only half the battle. i still struggle with my BDD and it's still hard to really believe a lot of the things he says, but this experience has really showed me that it is possible for me to show my boobs to a guy without the world coming to an end, and it showed me what true intimacy is really like

This makes me so happppy!!!! Of course as we talked about many times here, we shouldn't depend on men to make us feel good about our hot lil booblets, but not gonna lie - experiences of honest appreciation does help. This guy seems soooooo sweet. i am so happy for you, Dee. This is so huge for you! yay! I only hope that my next time goes as well. It's been over a year since a guy has been lucky enough to see my booblets and frankly the idea does make me a lil nervous. now that i am dating again i am sure it will happen sooner rather than later. But this is encouraging

[skindeep1991]

happy story time!

i've been going on dates with a new, really sweet guy (the one mentioned earlier, he managed to make his way out of the friend zone) and after a few more dates i felt comfortable enough with him to bring him back to my apartment. we didn't have sex or anything, we just canoodled on my couch for a bit. but while he was kissing my neck he started you know, moving downwards and he pulled my blouse down until one of my boobies was exposed and started kissing it, but i got embarrassed and tried to pull it back. but instead of letting me he cupped them both with his hands and said, "babe, please don't be embarrassed, these are perfect". then he proceeded to take off my entire shirt and bra and continued to kiss and fondle them.

sooo, this was important because it was the first time i've ever let a guy see my breasts! i'm so happy that I was finally able to do it, because just last month i thought i would never be able to be completely naked with a guy because of my boobie issues. we've seen each other multiple times since this incident and i still blush and cover them a little when he first takes my bra off, but he just says something sweet like, "i don't get why you cover them up, all it does is block my tongue.". or if it comes off in the heat of the moment and i get self conscious after i've processed that i'm topless and ask to put my bra back on, he simply says, "no! i'm not finished with them yet!". and to top it off, the first time he saw them all he said was, "don't mind if i do!" with the biggest smile on his face. he really is a gem and i'm soo thankful to have met him. i know that finding a partner who adores your body is only half the battle. i still struggle with my BDD and it's still hard to really believe a lot of the things he says, but this experience has really showed me that it is possible for me to show my boobs to a guy without the world coming to an end, and it showed me what true intimacy is really like

This makes me happier than you can imagine! I'm so glad you've found that and I'm glad he's so supportive. It will get easier and being nervous about it at first is normal. I remember when I first started sleeping with my boyfriend I used to cover up straight away and freak out like that. But the support from him is fantastic! I'm so happy for you Dee I hope this is the beginning of changing the way you see them.
I know you shouldn't need men to make you feel good about yourself but it really helps when someone finds them attractive!

[DeeRayy]

happy story time!

i've been going on dates with a new, really sweet guy (the one mentioned earlier, he managed to make his way out of the friend zone) and after a few more dates i felt comfortable enough with him to bring him back to my apartment. we didn't have sex or anything, we just canoodled on my couch for a bit. but while he was kissing my neck he started you know, moving downwards and he pulled my blouse down until one of my boobies was exposed and started kissing it, but i got embarrassed and tried to pull it back. but instead of letting me he cupped them both with his hands and said, "babe, please don't be embarrassed, these are perfect". then he proceeded to take off my entire shirt and bra and continued to kiss and fondle them.

sooo, this was important because it was the first time i've ever let a guy see my breasts! i'm so happy that I was finally able to do it, because just last month i thought i would never be able to be completely naked with a guy because of my boobie issues. we've seen each other multiple times since this incident and i still blush and cover them a little when he first takes my bra off, but he just says something sweet like, "i don't get why you cover them up, all it does is block my tongue.". or if it comes off in the heat of the moment and i get self conscious after i've processed that i'm topless and ask to put my bra back on, he simply says, "no! i'm not finished with them yet!". and to top it off, the first time he saw them all he said was, "don't mind if i do!" with the biggest smile on his face. he really is a gem and i'm soo thankful to have met him. i know that finding a partner who adores your body is only half the battle. i still struggle with my BDD and it's still hard to really believe a lot of the things he says, but this experience has really showed me that it is possible for me to show my boobs to a guy without the world coming to an end, and it showed me what true intimacy is really like

[discowombat]

not at all! you're one of the younger ones so know one here expects you to know everything. please continue to think of this place as somewhere where you can ask questions without feeling naive. i know i've posted plenty of things on my bad boobie days that i later shake my head at. but that's what this place is for ^.^

I second DeeRayy on this!

[DeeRayy]

Hey!

Just wanted to apologize to you all if I came off as really biased. I wanted to come on here and expand my knowledge on it a bit ^^; Now I know a bit more. I think I'll be scurrying off the boards now, haha.

Sorry if I have wasted any of your time and such.

not at all! you're one of the younger ones so know one here expects you to know everything. please continue to think of this place as somewhere where you can ask questions without feeling naive. i know i've posted plenty of things on my bad boobie days that i later shake my head at. but that's what this place is for ^.^

[wondermist]

wondermist, have you missed the entire recent susan b. komen drama

like how that little pink ribbon is a symbol of their bs

and utter hypocrisy

their logo represents NOTHING except wasted monies

i <3 boobies page

you seem to be very biased though you admit to knowing nothing about the wristbands

except that you think they are sold in "adult stores" and that only "boys" wear them

i can assure you that they are available in many reputable places

to many kinds of people

not just pervy "boys"

and there is nothing wrong with "adult stores"

they exist so that adults can get their freak on without offending the childrens

or the uptights

Hey!

Just wanted to apologize to you all if I came off as really biased. I wanted to come on here and expand my knowledge on it a bit ^^; Now I know a bit more. I think I'll be scurrying off the boards now, haha.

Sorry if I have wasted any of your time and such.

[skindeep1991]

hey all. so i recently got an interesting proposition from a friend of mine. he's a guy i was once dating but had to friendzone (first time i've ever done THAT to someone). anyway, we've gotten pretty close and he now knows about my boobie issues. and on tuesday night he heard me cry over it for the first time on the phone while he was asking me about it (i still cry over it at least a couple times a month sadly). i even admitted to him that i can't take off my bra during sex and that i've never let anyone see them because i don't feel like a normal woman and he kept reassuring me that i was worrying over nothing. and so i, being the stuborn person i am, replied "well you've never seen them", to which he replied, "then let me see". i took it as him hitting on me and scolded him. and he explained, "look, you've already turned me down so i'm not gonna try to get into your pants. i just want to give you my honest opinion so you can see that you're worrying over nothing.". i said that if he was gonna be honest then i wasn't sure if i really wanted to hear what he has to say about them, to which he simply replied, "i can assure you you'll feel much better if we do this. you can't hide them forever. maybe it'll help you feel more comfortable in the future. and i promise you lots of guys will share my opinion because to us, boobs are boobs [[damn that stupid line!!!]]". he even went as far to tell me that he's been with a girl smaller than me and he simply looked at them as breasts, not as anything "inferior". i'm seriously considering doing this, but what do you guys think?

I think it's a good idea to boost your confidence, but seeing as he's your friend will it make things awkward? because you'd have to see him face to face eventually and would you be alright with the idea of knowing he's seen them? I think although its a fantastic idea you need to really think about the situation you'll be putting yourself in. Also if you are to take one and send it to him just take it of your breasts (no face or anything) so no one can say it's you just to be on the safe side. I'm a little over paranoid about these things I guess haha. Tell you what though I've sent mine to kerabear and vice versa and it does make you feel better even if its just to know you're really not alone. So if you ever feel like you'd want to I'd trade pictures of you or I'm sure one of the other girlies would.
If you feel like he'd be honest then my dear I say go for it, what have you got to lose?

[KeraBear]

hey all. so i recently got an interesting proposition from a friend of mine. he's a guy i was once dating but had to friendzone (first time i've ever done THAT to someone). anyway, we've gotten pretty close and he now knows about my boobie issues. and on tuesday night he heard me cry over it for the first time on the phone while he was asking me about it (i still cry over it at least a couple times a month sadly). i even admitted to him that i can't take off my bra during sex and that i've never let anyone see them because i don't feel like a normal woman and he kept reassuring me that i was worrying over nothing. and so i, being the stuborn person i am, replied "well you've never seen them", to which he replied, "then let me see". i took it as him hitting on me and scolded him. and he explained, "look, you've already turned me down so i'm not gonna try to get into your pants. i just want to give you my honest opinion so you can see that you're worrying over nothing.". i said that if he was gonna be honest then i wasn't sure if i really wanted to hear what he has to say about them, to which he simply replied, "i can assure you you'll feel much better if we do this. you can't hide them forever. maybe it'll help you feel more comfortable in the future. and i promise you lots of guys will share my opinion because to us, boobs are boobs [[damn that stupid line!!!]]". he even went as far to tell me that he's been with a girl smaller than me and he simply looked at them as breasts, not as anything "inferior". i'm seriously considering doing this, but what do you guys think?

Wellll... hmmm.... tricky. well i normally would counsel not letting anyone pressure you into doing anything you are not comfortable doing. Buuuuut I also believe that in some cases stepping out if your comfort can be a good thing. I think this just might be one of those times. I mean, i obviously don't know this guy, but from how yo've described him so far, he doesn't sound like (as Karategrrl would eloquently put it) an asshat. He sounds "safe". Certainly far from your first boyfriend when it comes to boob perspective, that is for sure. I say go for it.

[DeeRayy]

hey all. so i recently got an interesting proposition from a friend of mine. he's a guy i was once dating but had to friendzone (first time i've ever done THAT to someone). anyway, we've gotten pretty close and he now knows about my boobie issues. and on tuesday night he heard me cry over it for the first time on the phone while he was asking me about it (i still cry over it at least a couple times a month sadly). i even admitted to him that i can't take off my bra during sex and that i've never let anyone see them because i don't feel like a normal woman and he kept reassuring me that i was worrying over nothing. and so i, being the stuborn person i am, replied "well you've never seen them", to which he replied, "then let me see". i took it as him hitting on me and scolded him. and he explained, "look, you've already turned me down so i'm not gonna try to get into your pants. i just want to give you my honest opinion so you can see that you're worrying over nothing.". i said that if he was gonna be honest then i wasn't sure if i really wanted to hear what he has to say about them, to which he simply replied, "i can assure you you'll feel much better if we do this. you can't hide them forever. maybe it'll help you feel more comfortable in the future. and i promise you lots of guys will share my opinion because to us, boobs are boobs [[damn that stupid line!!!]]". he even went as far to tell me that he's been with a girl smaller than me and he simply looked at them as breasts, not as anything "inferior". i'm seriously considering doing this, but what do you guys think?

[KeraBear]

awww anne, lay off a bit eh? Wondermist is only 15! (or 16, i forget which). I don't recall seeing anyplace in there where she was railing against adult stores. But I can certainly see where the confusion might lie with the meaning of the bracelets. And i detinitely have no problems imagining many a teenage boy wearing one! Lol

[Anne_Ecdote]

wondermist, have you missed the entire recent susan b. komen drama

like how that little pink ribbon is a symbol of their bs

and utter hypocrisy

their logo represents NOTHING except wasted monies

i <3 boobies page

you seem to be very biased though you admit to knowing nothing about the wristbands

except that you think they are sold in "adult stores" and that only "boys" wear them

i can assure you that they are available in many reputable places

to many kinds of people

not just pervy "boys"

and there is nothing wrong with "adult stores"

they exist so that adults can get their freak on without offending the childrens

or the uptights

[wondermist]

Hey everybody!

Recently, I learned that those "I <heart> BOOBIES!" wristbands that everybody's been wearing around school is apparently for breast cancer awareness. Your thoughts? ((Though this may be old news...))

I personally feel that the bands do not... help breast cancer awareness at all. They're mostly sold in adult stores or something from what I've heard. They do not have the logo on them either so how is this suppose to help? I'm very curious. Mostly boys wear them to no surprise.

[karategrrl]

just wanted to let you guys know that i'm currently going on dates with four different guys right now, which means i'm living proof that you can still be a playa playa without even the slightest hint of cleavage

I like this. You go, girl.

[DeeRayy]

just wanted to let you guys know that i'm currently going on dates with four different guys right now, which means i'm living proof that you can still be a playa playa without even the slightest hint of cleavage

[KeraBear]

betty dodson and carlin ross discussed my question on their web show!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHzfYwSfOJg...mp;feature=plcp

Wowy, you are becoming quite the web sensation, aren't you? . i do agree with pretty much all that they said though. Especially that bit about how when he is... umm... into you... he is most likely not being critical of anything about you. He's just haopy to be there! Plus he DID orgasm after getting hus hands on those hot lil booblets of yours, no? Just sayin'... oh yea and btw major props to those two for doing what they do. i mean i can't see myself putting myself out there on youtube telling the world about how my nipples are hardwired to my clitoris (even though its sorta true lol). Now that takes some serious balls!

Skindeep - any new updates on you and your bf?? That reminds me soooooo much of my senior year in HS when i came onto this board in tears after discovering porn on my exes computer. I went on to check my email and instead found these tall, busty, curvy NEKKID blondes staring back at me. I was devastated!! Not just because they were other women, but mostly cuz they were the opposite of my short, smallie non blonde self. I cried myself to sleep that night. But if anything good came out of it,it forced us to talk about stuff like that and got it out in the open. i was foolish to think that he wouldn't look at porn. i mean most teen boys do. But still it broke my heart. PM me if you wanna pick my brain about it.

[DeeRayy]

betty dodson and carlin ross discussed my question on their web show!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHzfYwSfOJg...mp;feature=plcp

[discowombat]

:-) I'm so happy for you. I understand where you are coming from and any progress is great!