[insideout]

Yeah, like I said, the other girls are worse in ways that matter more to me. It's sort of a no win situation, I guess.

So the Australian guy didn't even know about it! But he told me that Australia has a very conservative government that, in his opinion, doesn't represent liberal city dwellers very well. He said that in rural Australia there are a lot of VERY conservative people who support those kinds of absurd laws. And I've read this elsewhere as well.

In any case, he was appalled when I told him. It's good to know we aren't the only ones taking offense!!!!

[KeraBear]

"the girl I get along with the best has a nasty habit of putting me down." The girl that you get a long with BEST? Geeeeez, get out of there! LOL Seriously, though. I guess I agree with my fellow busties that you should try to talk to her about it. I mean if you get along with her the best than she has to care about you on SOME level, shouldn't she? But yeah, it sounds like she has some major self esteem issues. At my school, there are girls who give me a lot of crap about my small boobs, but i think there are some jealously issues with them because i am short and petite and pretty thin. Do you think maybe she might be jealous? Sooo yeah, i more side with Stronggirl in that I wouldn't want to stoop to her level, but at the same time, maybe she should get a taste of her own medicine if she doesn't get the message? I dunno. But do let us know what happens when you finally "grow a pair," ha ha

A bit off subject, but what did the Australian guy say when you asked his opinion on the ban of small boobies?!? I am really curious.

[wondermist]

Thanks for the advice! I've never been one for confrontation so we'll see if I can grow a pair. Of balls. I never realized how that statement could be ambiguous when I say it, lol.

Teehee, that made me giggle. Ambiguity's not so bad sometimes! Good luck. I hope everything turns out all right.

[insideout]

Thanks for the advice! I've never been one for confrontation so we'll see if I can grow a pair. Of balls. I never realized how that statement could be ambiguous when I say it, lol.

[karategrrl]

"Hey - I can't find the cat - can you check under your boobs?"

LOL!!!!!!'
OMG, love it!!!
Yes, do try and just talk to her, but I have to add--be prepared for her to be unresponsive. I'd say something along the lines of, "The things you say are hurtful and come across as immature and make you sound really insecure,etc. Please stop." Buuut, she may not get it unless you stoop to her level. (I've learned that, unfortunately, you have to learn someone's language and use it with them b/c they don't "speak" niceness and reason.

If she acts like an ass if you approach with kindness, then I'd whip out the "impending sag" and "can't find the cat" and such comments--often. Until she gets SICK of it. That may be the only way she gets the message. Unfortunately.

[spot-on]

Hi All
I am almost 3 weeks post-surgery. As I don't want to post pics online I am going to email anyone that wants to see before/after pics so far. If you want to see them please PM me your emails address.

Pics are in a bikini, and annonymous (headless) but show the progression so far. I also have other pics without bikini I would be willing to share to a few regulars

[strongirl]

Well until I read the end of your post I was going to suggest "F--K them both, only in different ways". Bummer that he's gone and you still have to deal with her.

I'll be interested in any suggestions other people have about this girl. She sounds VERY much like an acquaintance of mine who I've mentioned in here before - a girl I've known socially for years and see just a few times a year but every single time I've seen her, she brings up her large boobs in conversation. I always joke to myself that when I see her I'm going to say something like "Hi Courtney, nice to see you and your boobs, how have the three of you been doing?"

This chick is also a very alpha female and while she comes across as super-confident and is always putting other people down I suspect she has a very low self-esteem and overcompensates, which is what your "friend" sounds like.

I haven't bothered to address the issue with the girl I know because I see her so seldom. Probably the best approach for you would be to speak to this girl sincerely and ask her to stop - be kind to her and ask her to be kind to you in return. But boy, it'd be hard not to fight fire with fire and start cracking jokes about udders, sagging, and how gross it must be under there if she has to use deodorant. "Hey - I can't find the cat - can you check under your boobs?"

I don't suggest you do that - it's mean and I feel bad for even having such thoughts. Just goes to show how contagious meanness is.

[insideout]

Hi, I've never posted but I lurk on a pretty regular basis.

I've found myself in an interesting situation with another girl and I'm not sure what to do about it.

Are you ready for a monster of a post?

Some back story: I just graduated from college and the friends I made there were VERY supportive of my body type (I barely fill out a 32A cup, and the rest of me is on the line between skinny and pear-shaped. I like my butt, sort of). I was spoiled by them, for sure. They always made me feel beautiful. Now I'm in a new place with new people, and the girl I get along with the best has a nasty habit of putting me down. I know, I know, how can I say that we get along then? Well, everyone else is worse, believe me.

But back to this girl . . . I think she may have self-esteem issues that she's taking out on me. She's a dominant female, for sure, and what she says to me is always delivered in a slightly aggressive, mean tone. She'll say things like "you don't need a bra, you have no breasts" (I don’t wear bras, btw, and if I have to it’s only to hide my nipples during professional events) and so on and so forth. It happens over and over again. Not only does she point out my lack of a chest, this girl goes out of her way to point out her big tits CONSTANTLY when I'm around, and even worse, when other people are around too. I won't rehash everything she's said; just suffice to say I'm sick of it.

I've been dealing with low self-esteem for a long time and I don't need her negativity bringing me down, but we are forced to live in super close proximity for the next few months. How do I tell her to quit it? I’ve never had a girl try so hard to bring me down before .

Luckily for me this story has some happy moments. I have two occasions to relate, but first I will be referring to myself as S, the mean girl as N, and the hero of the day as E.

Like I mentioned, N pointed out my body shape on more than one social occasion, and on two of these E (a boy) stood up for me!!! Who would have thought, right? Anyways, I can’t figure out how to say this without saying it all so here goes:

I'm good friends with an Australian guy - from here on A - and I was asking him what he thought about Australia banning small breasts and squirting (this was out of genuine curiousity - and we're a pretty open group.) So we’re talking about this and I'm feeling pretty good about myself regardless because I'm drunk, and E comes in and asks what we're talking about. I was listening to A and didn't answer. N fills him in, and then apropos of NOTHING she says "yeah, S is flat and she wouldn't be allowed to do porn in Australia . . ." I sort of shout, "hey, what????" in total disbelief. If we were having a conversation about modeling would I say to someone "oh yeah, we're talking about modeling because N could never be a model . . ." NO!!!!! WTF? She couldn’t, by the way. Anyways, E looks at me and asks “what’s wrong with your breasts?”, tells me I'm sexy, then calls me "sweet tits." Seriously. I almost died laughing.

Another time N was yet again talking about her AND her mother's enormous breasts (some ridiculous story about how they put deodorant under there). So I'm drunk again (I swear I'm not an alcoholic) and I look down at my chest and say under my breath "no need to worry about that." One girl started cracking up, then E looks at me, puts both thumbs up and goes, "hell yeah" !!!!!!!!!! The best part was that N got super defensive and tried to defend big titties to this room of people who were clearly on my side (the girl cracking up has a problem with N too, I think she understands my frustration with her blatant power plays).

The best, best part is that I know N has a mini-crush on E, but he's totally into me. AND he's German, so he comes from the land of titty and still thinks I'm hot. AND he's sexy.

Ladies, there are men out there who want your little titties, no matter your body type.

Anyways, he’s gone now , hence my current problem of continuing to deal with this girl. Any advice? Sorry for such a long, mostly incoherent post; sometimes I just need a wild vent.

[karategrrl]

I saw a sticker today that said "I'm not perfect... but parts of me are incredible!" I think I will adopt this mantra. Yes, even for my booblets!

Love it--both the T and your outlook!

[spot-on]

I have a t-shirt that says something similar "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are pretty awesome!". It was from abercrombie & fitch but I picked it up for a buck at the thrift store

[KeraBear]

I saw a sticker today that said "I'm not perfect... but parts of me are incredible!" I think I will adopt this mantra. Yes, even for my booblets!

[spot-on]

I agree I've seen some great before/afters and you wonder if they were photoshopped, but then I've also seen some terrible before/afters so who knows! lol! I know that so far I am very happy with how things turns out, though I am far from done healing and "dropping" yet.

Hoping to get pics done before xmas, if not it'll be next week! I'll post when I have the after 'so far' shots

[karategrrl]

Karategrrl, glad you mentioned the pic thing. Was gonna ask but was afraid i would come off as a creeper, haha...

A picutre's worth a thousand words with stuff like this. Plus, I've seen a bazillion "befores" and "afters" on commercial web sites, but never had total confidence that the good-looking "afters" haven't been altered, you know? Spot-on's pics would be from a trusted source.

And yes, spot-on, knowledge is POWER!

[KeraBear]

Instead of a swearing jar, we should institute a negative-body-talk jar.

Yes. Everytime someone says negative self talk we can use the codeword "Jar"

Karategrrl, glad you mentioned the pic thing. Was gonna ask but was afraid i would come off as a creeper, haha...

[spot-on]

Yep I am working on getting pics done today for afters, so we can compare 2 weeks out

I've heard the same about the salines, most surgeons overfill them now to stop that, and lessen the risk of rippling and rupture which are also common in salines. Rippling is when you see the outline of the implant or creases in the saline bag through the skin. All reasons that put me off salines. They aren't generally recommended for women with very little breast tissue because of these reasons.

Nope I can't feel the implant when I touch my boobs it feels like all boob, especially now they are getting squishier Right now they still look very round looking and obviously fake, but once they settle a little more they'll look much more natural. It's strange cos initially they just felt heavy and the skin was so tight across my boobs and chest, now it just feels like me, yep even at 2 weeks they feel like me. I don't feel anything moving under the skin. THe only weird sensation I had was yesterday when my pecs decided to "come back to life" and have started contracting when I lift something heavier than I should. The pecs contract and move the implants out and up a little. It's something you get with unders but I had a similar thing beforehand where my boobs would move. Odd sensation now cos you feel the implant under the muscle, not uncomfortable but weird feeling the first few times it happened. Today I'm pretty used to it, lol. I am gonna see how that feels in a week or so when I'm allowed to workout again, I've heard push ups are weird, but still able to do.

I'm pretty much open and honest about everything IRL too, an open book as people say. Plus information is power

Thanks! I'm really curious, though I know it will be awhile before we can really see the true "after," as it's only been 2 weeks and I know they take awhile to settle and the swelling to go down. I am breathing a sigh of relief for you that everything seems to have gone so well! I don't perosnally know you, but I was really concerned!

Curious--I know with the saline implants, a common complaint is a "sloshing" noise. Obvoously, you don't have this with the "gummy" types you got, but how do they feel when you move around? Is there a sensation of something foreign moving around? And can you feel the edges when you touch them? That's another complaint I've heard--from men--but I think this might have been another saline-only issue.

You have been so open and honest about all of this. Really incredible.

[karategrrl]

Yes I have before/afters. Well afters, so far. I don't mind sharing at all. I actually have some befores in a bikini too, and am going to be taking after pics in the same bikini, so I don't mind sharing those!

Thanks! I'm really curious, though I know it will be awhile before we can really see the true "after," as it's only been 2 weeks and I know they take awhile to settle and the swelling to go down. I am breathing a sigh of relief for you that everything seems to have gone so well! I don't perosnally know you, but I was really concerned!

Curious--I know with the saline implants, a common complaint is a "sloshing" noise. Obvoously, you don't have this with the "gummy" types you got, but how do they feel when you move around? Is there a sensation of something foreign moving around? And can you feel the edges when you touch them? That's another complaint I've heard--from men--but I think this might have been another saline-only issue.

You have been so open and honest about all of this. Really incredible.

[nbdx0645]

Instead of a swearing jar, we should institute a negative-body-talk jar.

[KeraBear]

Some loving reprimanding here, Kerabear. Of course you have one!! <<hug>>

Loving reprimanding accepted! Yea... I have to a better job of being nice to myself sometimes.

And Allison... Oh my!

[spot-on]

Yes I have before/afters. Well afters, so far. I don't mind sharing at all. I actually have some befores in a bikini too, and am going to be taking after pics in the same bikini, so I don't mind sharing those!

Some loving reprimanding here, Kerabear. Of course you have one!! <<hug>>

spot-on, I wonder if at some point you might be willing to share your before and after pics--maybe via private bust messaging. I know the doctors have to take them, right?

[Allison-Shine]

Some loving reprimanding here, Kerabear. Of course you have one!! <<hug>>

spot-on, I wonder if at some point you might be willing to share your before and after pics--maybe via private bust messaging. I know the doctors have to take them, right?

Give me a break Kera . Some "loving reprimanding" from me too, and maybe a spanking too !