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Morphia
post May 21 2007, 11:02 AM
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I FINALLY got my results back and it is, in fact, the bv again. So, it is the bv that's causing all of this burning. I may be a rare case, but I'm still a very real one. I hope this 14 days of Flagyl works...


I just noticed that ever since my colpo, my discharge has turned into WATER. I'm leaking brown stuff all in my underwear now. I know the brown is from the biopsies, but isn't this copious watery discharge something you ladies experience as a common symptom of the bv? I think the colpo has made my bv WORSE!
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arj75
post May 21 2007, 10:06 AM
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Thank you Cancan for your information! I looked up the list of the many different vegetables that supply our bodies with fructooligosaccharides and inulin. I'm going to the grocery store tonight. Getting our nutritional needs from supplements may boost up the body process much faster, but if I keep buying the many different supplements, probotics, and vitamins....I won't be able to afford to eat! lol Changes in our diets will be more than difficult, but since we are creatures of habit...let's make this a new habit to where anything else would seem strange!

Since I am a lousy chef, I think it should be mentioned that overcooking, improper storage, and overripeness harm the nutritional values of these foods.

Something else i can't help but to blab about....and I need investigate....how to improve our stomachs ability to absorb these nutrients and minerals.

I hate mentioning to you all that I have a lot of nasty ass mucous in my bowel moments...is this a sign that your body doesnt have a good ability to absorb fats and nutrients? I had my cholesterol checked once...and the good kind that our body needs...it was very low......
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post May 21 2007, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(Genesis @ May 21 2007, 09:03 AM) *
First off I want to say how impressed I am with all of the efforts and hours of research that have gone into this blog. If you combined the hours of research that each woman here has contributed battling this very personal problem it would probably outnumber the years that any of us have been alive. That's saying a whole lot! I am especially impressed by the candor and honesty of each blogger. I am reminded of Einstein and several other inventors who after repeated failures discovered the answer to their most baffling questions and turned around and shared it with the world. Cures are the result of deliberate testing, evaluation, research and more testing. Success happens because people make it so. Finding a cure does take commitment in sharing and educating one another. And even when the medical world snubs such a plague and has their own theories, as women who understand from a personal standpoint that many of the answers don't fit or make sense, once and for all, women banded together is a force to be reckoned with. We have how many minds here in this forum? Now that's a whole lot of brain power, more than Einstein to be frank.
Very rare is it that such a collaborated effort has been made to single-handedly isolate the causes and cures for such a common female problem and not by scholars at Harvard or Yale or Princeton, but very average, hardworking, women who want an answer that they aren't getting because the medical world simply has not devoted the time or commitment in discovering WHY. If it were some radical new disease that threatened to annialate humankind they'd be on the bandwagon, but hence it's just the uncomfortable plague that all women are suseptible to and though it does cause sterility, it doesn't kill as far as the medical world is concerned, so why the rush? I plan to be around for awhile and see what transpires. This is definately a move in the making. Glad to be onboard!

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Genesis-thank you for your kind words. SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY, Is anyone brave enough to call Oprah?? THIS MESSAGAE, should be sent to Ophrah!! Nice wording, and an excellent way to "Sum it all up"!! Thanks for the complimants. Glad to have you on board!!
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arj75
post May 21 2007, 07:45 AM
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I just wanted to mention something else, simply for discussion, and for a reminder to myself. I remember reading somewhere that Asian(?) women have the lowest rate of reoccuring vaginal infections for whatever reason. And while african american women have the highest rates of reocurring bv. I'm a hines 57 cacausion, but I really think it's interesting knowing that different cultures have different diets, preferences, and so forth.

I enjoyed reading another new members suggestions of eating food thats our good bacteria like. Too bad not one she had mentioned has ever went onto my tongue. I believe that I am, in fact the most picky eater on earth....
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lori
post May 21 2007, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(anitsirhc @ May 21 2007, 06:24 AM) *
hi ladies. today i have my gyno appointment. i am not looking forward to it at all. at planned parenthood for some reason they use a lot of different swabs when they go up there and have to go inside several different times. and some of them are very painful. so i'm kind of scared, i hate it. but anyway i am going to tell her about my pain (the cramping and pinching feelings) and that i am not taking antibiotics again if she prescribes it. i'm going to bring the yeast arrest with me and have her tell me what she thinks. i'm going to use it whether or not she tells me i should but whatever. and i will try to get a culture, if it doesn't cost too much extra. alright well my appointment is at 2 (in 4 1/2 hours) so i'll be back on here later to tell you how it went.

Best of luck to you anitsirhc.


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anitsirhc
post May 21 2007, 07:07 AM
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hi ladies. today i have my gyno appointment. i am not looking forward to it at all. at planned parenthood for some reason they use a lot of different swabs when they go up there and have to go inside several different times. and some of them are very painful. so i'm kind of scared, i hate it. but anyway i am going to tell her about my pain (the cramping and pinching feelings) and that i am not taking antibiotics again if she prescribes it. i'm going to bring the yeast arrest with me and have her tell me what she thinks. i'm going to use it whether or not she tells me i should but whatever. and i will try to get a culture, if it doesn't cost too much extra. alright well my appointment is at 2 (in 4 1/2 hours) so i'll be back on here later to tell you how it went.
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Genesis
post May 21 2007, 02:46 AM
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First off I want to say how impressed I am with all of the efforts and hours of research that have gone into this blog. If you combined the hours of research that each woman here has contributed battling this very personal problem it would probably outnumber the years that any of us have been alive. That's saying a whole lot! I am especially impressed by the candor and honesty of each blogger. I am reminded of Einstein and several other inventors who after repeated failures discovered the answer to their most baffling questions and turned around and shared it with the world. Cures are the result of deliberate testing, evaluation, research and more testing. Success happens because people make it so. Finding a cure does take commitment in sharing and educating one another. And even when the medical world snubs such a plague and has their own theories, as women who understand from a personal standpoint that many of the answers don't fit or make sense, once and for all, women banded together is a force to be reckoned with. We have how many minds here in this forum? Now that's a whole lot of brain power, more than Einstein to be frank.
Very rare is it that such a collaborated effort has been made to single-handedly isolate the causes and cures for such a common female problem and not by scholars at Harvard or Yale or Princeton, but very average, hardworking, women who want an answer that they aren't getting because the medical world simply has not devoted the time or commitment in discovering WHY. If it were some radical new disease that threatened to annialate humankind they'd be on the bandwagon, but hence it's just the uncomfortable plague that all women are suseptible to and though it does cause sterility, it doesn't kill as far as the medical world is concerned, so why the rush? I plan to be around for awhile and see what transpires. This is definately a move in the making. Glad to be onboard!

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post May 21 2007, 02:10 AM
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Morphia--The chunky discharge is normal. MOST gynos put a liquid band-aid on your cervix after it gets biopsyed. That is the band-aid leaving your body. My gyno said it sort of looks like "oreo cookies." It's nothing to be worried about. I had cramping and discharge for almost 2 weeks afterwards and I'm fine.
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jewelscando
post May 20 2007, 10:47 PM
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Holy Crap Lori!!! Well, I bought mine online. I don't remember having to keep it refrigerated, but, it was well over a year that I used it, so I could be wrong. I didn't have any of that happen to me, but, remember, I've had a hysterectomy. All that's left is my ovaries. So, when I stick something up there, who the hell knows where it goes!!!! laugh.gif HELLO....HELLO...ANYBODY IN THERE???? hahahah

So, don't use my expereince, only because I wouldn't recomment it either, being that, it didnt' cure me. Flagyl is my drug of choice right now, vaginally. No smell here!!! It's really taken away the B.V. for me. Othertimes, something I would try would take it a way for a few days, but, this keeps it away for long periods of time. I even had sex the other night, and I thought for sure it would return, but, NOTHING. So....I think I'm going to stick with that until I hear from Pianogirl on where she buys the Estroil.
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lori
post May 20 2007, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(jewelscando @ May 20 2007, 05:41 PM) *
As far as the Gy-Natren. I used it. And I like it!! What were your issues with it? It definatley was not a cure, but it did help me.

I hate the product, it was terrible. For me, it was my moment of "Bad Product Pussy Explosion." But you had a good experience, and I'm going to add that to my blog, so people can decide for themselves.

**Question: did the vaginal capsules dissolve inside you completely? Did you use all the pills? Did you have any problems like I did?

Here's a quote from a previous post I wrote:

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Gy-natren - I found this at the refrigerated probiotics section of Whole Foods - it comes with 14 pills to take by mouth, and 14 pills to insert vaginally. I used 6 of these pills and became very irritated. For weeks afterwards, I got weird plastic-ky chunks in my discharge. I think the capsules didn't dissolve properly. And the stuff inside wasn't so great, either. I got weird, starchy clumps coming out for weeks, I finally had to go to my GYN and she had to "irrigate" - basically, squirt a bunch of solution inside and swab everything out. It was not pleasant.

I don't know what this stuff did inside of me, but it looked like the capsules didn't dissolve properly, and neither did what was inside. And this stuff would not come out - I guess because it was sticky? - and just floated inside me for *weeks*. It was irritating, and I felt cervix pain, not like when I have BV, but still discomfort - when wads of starchy clumps are in your vagina, you're going to feel it! I tried douching, and even got my period, and it still wouldn't come out!

So I went to my gyno and she did vaginal irrigation - which is a form of douching, except she had to spray a *lot* of solution, and get all up in there and clean me out with swabs. Talk about mortifying. She told me there was a lot of weird stuff in there, and she said I was lucky I didn't experience any tears or injuries. (And I only used 6 of the 14 pills!) She also said it looked like the stuff irritated my cervix and made it swell a bit - I went back 2 weeks later (needed my annual pap anyway), and she said everything looked better, everything looked clean, and no more of that swelling. Whew!

After googling Gy-natren, I found at least one other woman who said the stuff made her cervix swell, so it's not just me. As far as what caused the swelling - the capsules are made of chickpea and garbonzo bean powders. So it's edible, and probably not toxic. But again, if you have foreign bodies in your vagina that just won't come out, that will irritate you.

Anyway, the product was in fact cited for FDA violations - they need to get more safety approvals to sell stuff that you stick in your vagina, and all they got was the approval for the oral supplements. They also mis-labeled their product. This is very sketchy. Based on that alone, I would recommend staying away from this crap. (But I will still add that you had a good experience with it.)


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jewelscando
post May 20 2007, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(mfc10 @ May 21 2007, 01:42 AM) *
Is this the same product as Tetrasil? If so, it didn't help me when I tried it a couple of years ago.

Maggie C.


MAGGIE, YES IT IS. Newcomers...don't fall for it. Tetrasil DOES NOT WORK!! I have two tubes of it sitting in my drawer. It does NOTHING for B.V.
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post May 20 2007, 07:25 PM
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Is this the same product as Tetrasil? If so, it didn't help me when I tried it a couple of years ago.

Maggie C.
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littledipper
post May 20 2007, 06:25 PM
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http://www.salusil.com/bac_bacvag.htm
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jewelscando
post May 20 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(lori @ May 20 2007, 07:37 PM) *
Thanks Jewels! Hey, how do you know what I do for a living? Heh. But you're right, I do not work in the medical profession.

Anyway, I'm glad you like the blog. I joined this thread primarily to warn people about Gy-natren (bad stuff!) I appreciate everyone who's shared their experiences, too - if we've saved one woman from ordering the Jamu Stick, the world has become a better place! This thread is definitely a wealth of info. but I thought everyone could definitely use a list. So I made a quick list, and it grew out of that.

I'll keep reading this board and updating the blog. I appreciate all the input!


Wrong profession meaining you're not a doctor, or, atleast you've said you weren't.!! wink.gif I don't know what you do for a living, but, I think you should go into the profession of finding a cure!! You seem good at it!!

As far as the Gy-Natren. I used it. And I like it!! What were your issues with it? It definatley was not a cure, but it did help me.
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arj75
post May 20 2007, 05:50 PM
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How many of you all have been told that you are carriers of streptosoccus group B? I was told that I was a carrier when I was pregnant, and not much else. And now I'm even more pissed they didn't inform me of the risks of it. Nor, did they ask if I wanted to be treated with antibotics for it..they just did it. I'm interested also, if you are carriers and if your mother was told that she is a carrier of it as well. I will be doing some reading about it, I'm getting more angry with each article....
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Morphia
post May 20 2007, 05:49 PM
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Thanks, arj75. I did have another question for you guys. My doctor did write me a prescription for 14 days of Flagyl in case the test comes back positive for bv. Its the usual 500 mg twice a day. Any objections? Suggestions? Should I do it? I've also been wondering if I should take it as prescribed with the usual dose for 2 weeks or up the dose for a shorter period. As in take it 3 times a day until it runs out? I promise that whatever you suggest I won't piss on. smile.gif
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arj75
post May 20 2007, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Morphia @ May 20 2007, 12:47 AM) *
Not a stupid thought. I was thinking the EXACT same thing about 30 minutes ago. And about liver dysfunction. I am an alcoholic. I've been sick for a long time and all of my symptoms, including the bv, started after a MASSIVE binge that I had. Even though my liver function tests come back ok, I know that there is something wrong with it. No girl's liver can withstand a pint of jack daniels and several beers every night without getting some kind of damage. Keep doing your research, girl. With every question you ask and with every new theory you post I feel that I'm getting closer to a cause. I thank you for all that you've been doing.


The wonderful thing about the liver....it can regenerate itself..even after much abuse...being that you are only 21, I doubt the damage is not reversible.

Something that helps me from drinking my sorrows away to fast..for every beer.....or drink that I have...I must have that much water to match it back.

I'm changing my name to postalots lol
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post May 20 2007, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(neverending @ May 20 2007, 05:23 PM) *
I bought mine from a regular health food store. Get a phone book and look for health food stores. Call them to see if they have them in stock. They are very good!

About the hating, don't let them get to you and don't ignore it. If they say something you don't like pick out something that is wrong with them. That will make them shut up real quick because nobody is perfect. If one of the girls are fat say "I'd rather stink then to be fat as hell". LOL! I ignored it for years and I wish I had not done so. I feel really good when I take up for myself and you know what? They back of. smile.gif



Good advice! tongue.gif Next time I'll choose a flaw and ride on them about it!


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arj75
post May 20 2007, 04:21 PM
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Morphia, I did have a colpo..but really all I remember is that it sucked...and sucked bad. The discharge might be from the iodine solution that was used (on me) to prevent infection. Keep an eye on it, watch your temperature. Maybe it would help if you got an ice pack and wrapped a towel around it and rested it on your snatch...make sure you don't lay ice pack directly on it....Only thing that I can think of..and if you start running a fever call the doctor back they should have an answering service for emergencies....

Sorry girl, I remember the pain..thats about it..
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Morphia
post May 20 2007, 04:14 PM
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For those of you that have had a colposcopy, please tell me if what I'm experiencing is normal. I had one on the 18th. It still hurts, for one and the pain only feels like its getting worse. But what is worrying me right now is ever since I had it I've had chunks...or wads of something coming out. They started off small. But today I noticed that my usual burning just wasn't right. It had turned into a burn with a slight itch so I went to go take a look. While I was down there I noticed something light to medium brown covering the opening so I pulled it out and it was a huge wad of something like tissue paper or paper mache (sp?). I pulled out two wads like that and now I've noticed that the itching is a little less. What is this? I do know that my doctor said at the end of the colpo he had to go inside my cervix for something. So is this brown tissue coming from my uterus or my cervix or what? Is this normal or should I be worried?

And Lori, I do owe you an apology for accusing you of not contributing anything. I am sorry. Thanks for the blog.

[Edit] I also wanted to say that I would not be surprised if I ended up with an infection. It seemed sloppily done. I remember while he was doing the actual procedure he reached for one of the instruments, fumbled, and it hit my leg. He still stuck it inside me anyway. He should have cleaned it off before he did that. Those instruments are supposed to be sterile. My leg is not sterile. I'm just a little worried about it now.
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