[Morphia]

Well, on a more positive note...I can't believe it but after taking one Flagyl my burning...has stopped. Before, the only way I could get relief was by laying in bed on my back with no undies on and my knees up to my chest! Needless to say, I was trying to get as much air in there as possible. haha. It helped the burning a lot though. Maybe we should all start douching with air! LOL! The good guys need their oxygen, right? I know, I know. That's dangerous. I was only kidding. Also, my strange odor of strong vagina, old blood and iodine has decreased significantly. Its definitely a quick fix. But a long term one? For me? We'll soon find out.

[jewelscando]

I am grateful for every member here. Did I call jewels any names because I'm not recalling that I did, it's not my style. Jewels, whatever your feelings are towards me keep them, I really don't care. I'm not leaving this site, unless when I go to the doctor this next time and find out its yeast that keeps killing all my good bacterias. Maybe I will be lucky enough for that to happen..seeing that I have been on steriods my whole life and it has been proven that it causes yeast infections, not to mention, that I have been on many antibotics my whole life and I'm resistant to pretty much every antibotic invented so far. As we all know, they cause yeast infections too. Read that article that I mentioned to ilovehim, I think that you will find it interesting. I have bv too. I smell like fucking long john silvers. What alarms me is that we are gonna get some scary ass disease that could kill us in a nanu second if we already have a resistance to antibotics. I had to go through 3 fucking rounds of antibotics for a pinkeye infection I got. I'm noting my concerns, and I feel like you are the one getting nasty. Didn't taking the flagyl orally make you sick as a dog? Don't the two metrogel and flagyl have the same chemical properties?

ARJ75, you must have me confused with someone else, because you've said several things tonight, that do not apply to me. #1, I don't have yeast. #2, I don't complain, I've had nothing to complain about!!!!! I backed Lori awhile back because we felt Morphia wasn't wanting to listen, but that's over now. AND LASTLY, #3. DIDN'T FLAGYL ORALLY MAKE ME SICK AS A DOG?? What??? Quote me on that, please!!!! BECAUSE, those words NEVER came off my fingertips. NO, FLAGYL orally never made me sick. IT NEVER WORKED!!!!!!!! It's only worked vaginally. And, trust me, I'm more worried about building a resistance ORALLY, then I am vaginally. PERIOD THE END. I'm done with this conversation. So, go ahead, you can have the last word.

[Morphia]

Well I am going to try them after I give this herbal stuff some time to see if it works. I will let you know the results.

Thanks, Jennifer. I'll keep you updated on myself as well!


Has anyone here ever tried a Zpack for BV? I've read about 3 different girls so far that say this cured them.

[jenniferg]

I have yet to stick anything unprescribed up my vagina yet. Then again, I haven't been fighting this very long. I've had it for a long time, but didn't know to fight it in the beginning. I think that if I find out that antibiotics really aren't going to work for me, then I might go that route....

Well I am going to try them after I give this herbal stuff some time to see if it works. I will let you know the results.

[arj75]

Please accept my apologies for what I am about to say, but I for one am really grateful for Jewels and her posting on this site. She has agreed to be somewhat of a guinea pig with the vaginal flagyl, and just offers her opinions and experiences for the rest of us to have something to go on. All of this infighting and name calling reminds me of some high school BS... Jewels, please don't give up on this site and those of us who want to hear what you have to say. Peace (and I mean that sincerely).

I am grateful for every member here. Did I call jewels any names because I'm not recalling that I did, it's not my style. Jewels, whatever your feelings are towards me keep them, I really don't care. I'm not leaving this site, unless when I go to the doctor this next time and find out its yeast that keeps killing all my good bacterias. Maybe I will be lucky enough for that to happen..seeing that I have been on steriods my whole life and it has been proven that it causes yeast infections, not to mention, that I have been on many antibotics my whole life and I'm resistant to pretty much every antibotic invented so far. As we all know, they cause yeast infections too. Read that article that I mentioned to ilovehim, I think that you will find it interesting. I have bv too. I smell like fucking long john silvers. What alarms me is that we are gonna get some scary ass disease that could kill us in a nanu second if we already have a resistance to antibotics. I had to go through 3 fucking rounds of antibotics for a pinkeye infection I got. I'm noting my concerns, and I feel like you are the one getting nasty. Didn't taking the flagyl orally make you sick as a dog? Don't the two metrogel and flagyl have the same chemical properties?

[Morphia]

I have that elmer glue-like discharge too sometimes and it does cling to the vaginal walls like you say. The only other reason I thought that I could be getting the bv was that it didn't start until I started dating my current boyfriend in 2005. I was on birth control with my last boyfriend and never used condoms except when I would get off the bc for a while. It seemed like I would always get a yeast infection when we used the condoms. With my current bf, we have always used condoms and I have had bv non-stop. I switched to non-latex condoms thinking maybe I am allergic to latex...but so far I am still getting the bv. Have you ever tried the tea tree oil suppositories? I have read alot about them and want to try it.

I have yet to stick anything unprescribed up my vagina yet. Then again, I haven't been fighting this very long. I've had it for a long time, but didn't know to fight it in the beginning. I think that if I find out that antibiotics really aren't going to work for me, then I might go that route....

[jenniferg]

Luckily I have no side effects from the flagyl except for one. Depression. Its not documented but I found a board with hundreds of patient reviews on Flagyl and a lot of people were claiming that they got very depressed on it. I even found a couple of articles that said depression could be a side effect. I had been wondering why I was getting so damn depressed when I was nearing the end of my 7 day course. I can only imagine what this 14 day might do to me.

That sounds just like me...I was wondering why whenever I take it I start getting really depressed. It must be the Flagyl.

[jenniferg]

When I was first diagnosed with bv the only other symptom I had was a thick, white, pasty discharge that looked like Elmer's glue. I couldn't see it unless I looked as far up in my vagina as I could see. I actually had to work it out by flexing! It clung to the walls like glue! lol. I was put on Clindesse as a first round of treatment and I haven't had that discharge since. But it didn't eradicate the infection and my burning has been worse ever since. STAY AWAY FROM CLINDESSE AND OTHER CLINDAMYCIN CREAMS. I firmly believe they are too strong and may cause damage to some of the nerves. The first night I had the Clindesse in, I could feel little stabs of pain like needles with electricity going through them. Before I was diagnosed with BV and before I used the Clindesse I would get very raw and irritated on my vulva during sex. It would hurt like hell to pee and I actually had some tearing of the skin. But 5 days after I used the Clindesse I tried to have sex with my bf and I was burning so bad on the inside it felt like he had cotton wrapped around his penis. Everyone here thought it was yeast, but I tested negative for yeast and positive for bv. I don't get it. The Clindesse helped with the discharge but made my pain worse.

As of today my symptoms are burning, a very mild discharge, and a faint odor that's not fishy. My bf just describes it as "not right." Although since I had my colpo on the 18th I have a very strong odor of vagina and iodine. That's the only way I can really describe it. lol. I can smell it just sitting here.

I have that elmer glue-like discharge too sometimes and it does cling to the vaginal walls like you say. The only other reason I thought that I could be getting the bv was that it didn't start until I started dating my current boyfriend in 2005. I was on birth control with my last boyfriend and never used condoms except when I would get off the bc for a while. It seemed like I would always get a yeast infection when we used the condoms. With my current bf, we have always used condoms and I have had bv non-stop. I switched to non-latex condoms thinking maybe I am allergic to latex...but so far I am still getting the bv. Have you ever tried the tea tree oil suppositories? I have read alot about them and want to try it.

[Morphia]

Does anyone hate Flagyl as much as I do??? I have had it soooo many times and I really don't think I can take it again. It tastes so disgusting and makes me really sick to my stomach (and I don't drink any alcohol). Just curious if it makes anyone else sick.

Has anyone tried RePhresh? I have used it a couple of times and even though it didn't take the bv away, it helped reduce the amount of burning so I was able to have sex without wanting to cry.

Luckily I have no side effects from the flagyl except for one. Depression. Its not documented but I found a board with hundreds of patient reviews on Flagyl and a lot of people were claiming that they got very depressed on it. I even found a couple of articles that said depression could be a side effect. I had been wondering why I was getting so damn depressed when I was nearing the end of my 7 day course. I can only imagine what this 14 day might do to me.

[jewelscando]

Your right, I DO HAVE ISSUES. IT'S CALLED BACTERIAL FUCKING VAGINOSIS. That's the only issue I have. And no, I'm NOT batteling yeast with B.V. It's always 1 or the other. Do I know that for 100% certain, no, I can only say what I do know. I never said I was 100% right. I'm just here to offer my advice. You are in no way shape or form, obligated to take it.

And what the hell crawled up your ass tonight, and decided to shit on me. I'm pretty neutral in this board, except for when there's idiots that come on, trying to sell us shit, that we know doesn't work.

Don't worry sciongal, I'm not going anywhere. I didn't deserve to be shit on tonight by ARJ75, and she won't be here long anyways. Those of us, who have been on for a long time, will stick through it til the end.

I didn't join this board for this shit throwing bullshit. I joined it for people like Sassy, pianogirl, neverending, sciongal and LORI. The long timers, who suffer just as we all do. And who understand that it takes trial and error to find what works for US. Since, our Doctors will not do so.

[jenniferg]

Does anyone hate Flagyl as much as I do??? I have had it soooo many times and I really don't think I can take it again. It tastes so disgusting and makes me really sick to my stomach (and I don't drink any alcohol). Just curious if it makes anyone else sick.

Has anyone tried RePhresh? I have used it a couple of times and even though it didn't take the bv away, it helped reduce the amount of burning so I was able to have sex without wanting to cry.

[Morphia]

Hi Morphia, doesn't it just suck being a woman sometimes?? Men have no idea what women have to deal with. I was told I had hpv last year and had to have a leep procedure in May 06. I had repeat paps and everything was coming back good. My last pap however, showed signs of hpv (low-grade) and now I am having my second colposcopy this month to see if I need another leep done I have been having bv every month and the only way I know that it is occurring is if I try to have sex because it burns horribly. I don't really get discharge or smell. If it's a bad month then I will have a little discharge. I have been tested repeatedly for every STD know to man and I have nothing (besides the hpv). I really wish doctors would try a little harder to find a cure...there has to be something out there besides tons and tons of flagyl.

By the way, I thought I read that you had the same symptoms as me...the burning. Do you ever get any other symptoms besides the burning?

When I was first diagnosed with bv the only other symptom I had was a thick, white, pasty discharge that looked like Elmer's glue. I couldn't see it unless I looked as far up in my vagina as I could see. I actually had to work it out by flexing! It clung to the walls like glue! lol. I was put on Clindesse as a first round of treatment and I haven't had that discharge since. But it didn't eradicate the infection and my burning has been worse ever since. STAY AWAY FROM CLINDESSE AND OTHER CLINDAMYCIN CREAMS. I firmly believe they are too strong and may cause damage to some of the nerves. The first night I had the Clindesse in, I could feel little stabs of pain like needles with electricity going through them. Before I was diagnosed with BV and before I used the Clindesse I would get very raw and irritated on my vulva during sex. It would hurt like hell to pee and I actually had some tearing of the skin. But 5 days after I used the Clindesse I tried to have sex with my bf and I was burning so bad on the inside it felt like he had cotton wrapped around his penis. Everyone here thought it was yeast, but I tested negative for yeast and positive for bv. I don't get it. The Clindesse helped with the discharge but made my pain worse.

As of today my symptoms are burning, a very mild discharge, and a faint odor that's not fishy. My bf just describes it as "not right." Although since I had my colpo on the 18th I have a very strong odor of vagina and iodine. That's the only way I can really describe it. lol. I can smell it just sitting here.

[sciongal]

Jewels, you have some issues...man really.. you do. Arent many of us battling the two at the same time or back and forth? So, maybe you should start your own page. Your the only one that I hear complaining. Give me a damn break.. There are 200 different yeast strains...do you know that you don't have a one of them? Honestly, I hope you don't. Really. But like I have read tonight, just because you don't burn or itch or have cottage cheese..doesn't mean your body isnt invaded by them. They kill good bacteria too. They crowd em out.

Please accept my apologies for what I am about to say, but I for one am really grateful for Jewels and her posting on this site. She has agreed to be somewhat of a guinea pig with the vaginal flagyl, and just offers her opinions and experiences for the rest of us to have something to go on. All of this infighting and name calling reminds me of some high school BS... Jewels, please don't give up on this site and those of us who want to hear what you have to say. Peace (and I mean that sincerely).

[jenniferg]

Hey, Jennifer. Welcome (although unfortunate ) to the board! You and I are probably the youngest ones here! I'm 21 and started on my bv trek about 2 or 3 months ago although I know I've had it for much longer. I believe I "contracted" it at the same time I got warts from my ex bf. We had sex once and that was enough to give me a raging outbreak from hell! The warts are gone but it seems the bv will stay with me as a lingering reminder of that awful mistake. I also have high risk hpv. I had to have a precancerous condition removed from my vulva via laser over a year ago and now I'm showing changes on my cervix. I do believe there is no doubt that HPV and BV are related.

I have found a little bit of hope today. A woman at the yahoo bv support group told me that she was able to clear her infection with a 14 day course of Flagyl and the infection hasn't come back yet. Although I don't know how long she has been free from infection at least I know that there is a chance I can get rid of this burden even for a short time. My symptoms have been relentless for the past 3 months. I want this stuff gone!

Hi Morphia, doesn't it just suck being a woman sometimes?? Men have no idea what women have to deal with. I was told I had hpv last year and had to have a leep procedure in May 06. I had repeat paps and everything was coming back good. My last pap however, showed signs of hpv (low-grade) and now I am having my second colposcopy this month to see if I need another leep done I have been having bv every month and the only way I know that it is occurring is if I try to have sex because it burns horribly. I don't really get discharge or smell. If it's a bad month then I will have a little discharge. I have been tested repeatedly for every STD know to man and I have nothing (besides the hpv). I really wish doctors would try a little harder to find a cure...there has to be something out there besides tons and tons of flagyl.

By the way, I thought I read that you had the same symptoms as me...the burning. Do you ever get any other symptoms besides the burning?

[arj75]

Well, this forum is for B.V. it specifically says so. BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS OR EMBARRASING BAD SMELL. Does the Bust Lounge have a Yeast infection forum??

Jewels, you have some issues...man really.. you do. Arent many of us battling the two at the same time or back and forth? So, maybe you should start your own page. Your the only one that I hear complaining. Give me a damn break.. There are 200 different yeast strains...do you know that you don't have a one of them? Honestly, I hope you don't. Really. But like I have read tonight, just because you don't burn or itch or have cottage cheese..doesn't mean your body isnt invaded by them. They kill good bacteria too. They crowd em out.

[jewelscando]

I understand your concern. And trust me. I'm 38yrs old. Ok.... I have 4 kids, and I've been suffering from this shit for a long time. I know what triggers mine, which for me is sex, OR BETTER YET, to much of it.

I do have my ovaries which still produce hormones, estrogen and whatever else. I don't have a cervix or uterus, hence no periods. Is what I'm doing going to heal me? HELL NO. I'm just as interested in a CURE as anyone else on this board. But, I won't wait around for a cure, when I have something right here right now that's working. I'll continue my search, just as you all are. But in the mean time. I have no B.V. I don't smell itty bitty fish heads popping their heads through my vagina, and what little sex I have, well, it's stress free.

So....that's my story, and I'm sticking to it....

[jewelscando]

K, check this out. Finally found something online that speaks of putting the Flagyl in vaginally. They call it Flagyl Vaginal Tablets

HERE'S THE WEBISTE

http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT...inal&cid=HT


For vaginal tablets dosage form:
For bacterial vaginosis or trichomoniasis:
Adults and teenagers—One 500-mg tablet, inserted high into the vagina. Use the medicine once a day in the evening for ten or twenty days.

*****I personally only use for 2 days. That's all I need.

[arj75]

Maybe...maybe not. But, it's working. And my doctor hasn't said to stop doing it. And why are you so angry. I was just giving my opinion. Damn.... AND YOUR SOLUTION IS WHAT???? Oh yeah, that's right, you don't have one.

Edit: I've only had to use the Flagyl vaginally twice, in the last 5 months. So, to me....that's worth it.

Jewels, I'm not angry. I'm worried! I don't trust doctors, most just want a paycheck like everyone else. And while your doctor may seem very interested and helpful..some are really good at acting like they give a fuck. They want your business like everyone else......

Your right, I don't have a solution, but I don't want make things worse. I'm really concerned about all of us and the fact that doctors aren't doing tests to be sure of what it is that they are even dealing with. A wiff test tells them we have bv. so the fuck what...what other bacterias are there in it. I have already read an article about a girl with reoccuring bv, (a virgin) and the bacteria that was causing it for her was from a damn ear infection that somehow managed to get down in her genitals. I'm saying we need to know more than just assuming its the most "popular" bacteria before treating it. Tonight, I have been reading about yeast, and discovering some scary ass shit!!!

I remember you saying that all you have left are your ovaries right? So do you still have estrogen? ( I don't know much about your history. but yeast feed off of estrogen, just so you know. (concerned, I'm very concerned.

[Morphia]

Maybe...maybe not. But, it's working. And my doctor hasn't said to stop doing it. And why are you so angry. I was just giving my opinion. Damn.... AND YOUR SOLUTION IS WHAT???? Oh yeah, that's right, you don't have one.

Edit: I've only had to use the Flagyl vaginally twice, in the last 5 months. So, to me....that's worth it.

Well, so far my bv is not recurring. It is resistant. As in the last two rounds of antibiotics didn't get rid of it at all. The seven days of Flagyl helped. It helped enough that I was able to have sex once. lol. Which is why I have hope that the 14 day course may eradicate it. At least for a short period of time. A temporal solution for me right now is better than no solution at all.

[ilovehim]

thanks arj75, you're so thoughtful. =)