[angie_21]

Buttercups, when he goes out with these guys, why is it that you end up going with them too? I mean, where are their girlfriends during these outings? Do you go because you want to, because your boyfriend invites you, or just because its a regular part of your week? It seems strange to me that it sounds like you're the only girl in this group, and you're there even though you hate them. I don't really understand why you go in the first place. But yeah, I don't blame you for being pissed. I don't give a rat's fat ass what kind of body type they're into, if the only thing they care about is a girl's body, they haven't progressed since high school and that's very sad and stupid. That's dumb macho guy, locker-room talk is what you're hearing, it has zero basis in reality and the good guys outgrow that kind of thing. While these assholes are saying one thing (and honestly I think they harp on the same body type over and over because they know it bugs you) a million other guys in the world are saying equally horrible things about "fat chicks."

If you don't stop hanging out with these kinds of people, you're always going to be unhappy. You need to find a way to get more intelligent, interesting people in your life, ASAP.

[Aithinne]

Ugh my bf had a party last night with all of his most asshole guy friends. I don't get why he hangs around with such douches but I guess its bc he's been friends with them since childhood. Anyways, I was sitting around with the tool academy listening to them spew their BS when they started talking about this professor at their school. They said they weren't physically attracted to her bc she was "thin with no curves whatsoever". My bf looked over and told me not to listen, but I can't shut off my damn ears! They continued to say how her curveless body was so unattractive but that maybe she could attract them intellectually on some small level, but that wouldn't make up for her lack of curves. At this point, my blood was boiling and I also began to feel so bad about myself. Why why why do I let guys that I KNOW are assholes bring me down?? I guess it just sort of reinforced the mood I've been in lately. When I got home I was fuming ( there was a bunch of other asshole things that were said) and I told my bf that next time he plans on hanging out with them to count me out. I don't need anymore toxic people in my life fucking up my head. Now I'm just trying to get their dumbass opinions out of my mind..

And those guys think they're great catches? WOW. And people wonder why women have support groups for these things? For anyone who believes being a curveless woman is all that and a bag of chips... exhibit A: Asshole men from buttercups' story.

Now I'm sad too....

[buttercups]

Ugh my bf had a party last night with all of his most asshole guy friends. I don't get why he hangs around with such douches but I guess its bc he's been friends with them since childhood. Anyways, I was sitting around with the tool academy listening to them spew their BS when they started talking about this professor at their school. They said they weren't physically attracted to her bc she was "thin with no curves whatsoever". My bf looked over and told me not to listen, but I can't shut off my damn ears! They continued to say how her curveless body was so unattractive but that maybe she could attract them intellectually on some small level, but that wouldn't make up for her lack of curves. At this point, my blood was boiling and I also began to feel so bad about myself. Why why why do I let guys that I KNOW are assholes bring me down?? I guess it just sort of reinforced the mood I've been in lately. When I got home I was fuming ( there was a bunch of other asshole things that were said) and I told my bf that next time he plans on hanging out with them to count me out. I don't need anymore toxic people in my life fucking up my head. Now I'm just trying to get their dumbass opinions out of my mind..

[angie_21]

Hi koffewitch, don't worry, this thread is all about butting in with any topic to do with small boobs, or boobs at all, or body image in general. We're almost always talking about 2 or 3 topics at once anyways. Hope you stick around. It's so true, love what you got while you have it!

I don't know if I should bother explaining my harsh reaction to that ad (which I didn't end up watching because youtube wanted me to sign in because of the "adult theme" and I refuse to sign up for those websites) since I didn't offend anyone. But I don't want to come across as being too uptight to see that the ad was pretending to take a more lighthearted approach to breast cancer awareness. But I already feel like the whole breast cancer fundraising stuff is an industry in itself, the money goes to a lot of things that have nothing to do with medical research, and what research is being done is narrowly focused towards "cures" that will help pharmaceutical companies make money, not those that are necessarily in women's best interests. But I can't help but feel it's offensive to men and women to a) assume men won't care about cancer that might kill their mothers or wives or sisters, but they will care about something that will cause women to look "less sexy." and b ) use young busty women in an ad for a disease that more often strikes women after menopause, and strikes no matter what size your breasts are. Spreading misinformation in an ad that's supposed to promote awareness is irresponsible, and doing it in a way that also objectifies the women they're supposedly helping just pisses me off.

OK, I'm done. I do want to watch the ad to see the sailors though lol

[Allison-Shine]

Allison-shine, thanks for the laughs! LOL!

-Yup, the middle-aged guy looks like he's reaching into his pocket for that Viagra, and he'll use Edith His Wife as a receptacle while he fantasizes
-The small-breasted blonde looks suddenly bi-curious
-You're right about the dog--I hadn't even noticed that until you pointed it out! He, of course, wants to hump her leg.
-Yes, sailors are gay for sure--not that there's anything wrong with that--and it looks like they're whooping it up more like, "yeah, girl, Go girl!"

Right back at ya for the laughs, your insight made me chuckle too. But I am still convinced the dog was looking at a steak or a doggy treat

[karategrrl]

Angie - you absolutely nailed it. Thank you.

Karategrrl - ROFL over your comment about the dog!

Yes, Angie, right on!
strongirl: glad I made your day! Anytime.

[strongirl]

Angie - you absolutely nailed it. Thank you.

Karategrrl - ROFL over your comment about the dog!

[buttercups]

Thats true Angie, very true.

[angie_21]

Save the boobs? Women die because of breast cancer. But no, let's save the fucking boobs. Jesus.

[karategrrl]

Allison-shine, thanks for the laughs! LOL!

-Yup, the middle-aged guy looks like he's reaching into his pocket for that Viagra, and he'll use Edith His Wife as a receptacle while he fantasizes
-The small-breasted blonde looks suddenly bi-curious
-You're right about the dog--I hadn't even noticed that until you pointed it out! He, of course, wants to hump her leg.
-Yes, sailors are gay for sure--not that there's anything wrong with that--and it looks like they're whooping it up more like, "yeah, girl, Go girl!"

koffeewitch, I enjoyed your comments too! Welcome aboard and join the kvetching!

[strongirl]

No worries, Koffeewitch, your points are valid and resonate with many of the posts that have been made in here over time. I thought your previous post about having had various breast sizes was interesting and I have often felt grateful for my 34A's for some of the reasons you listed. (I'm almost 48 with no stretchmarks and no sagging and still get positive male responses when I wear cute little tops with no bra.) Overall, I think the chicks in this thread (and the cross-pollinating large breast thread) try to support each other in seeing the pro's/con's of both worlds and at the same time embrace the attitude that all shapes/sizes etc can be beautiful and sexy, that sexy is mostly in your head. And that health should be more important than looks anyway. We also sometimes offend each other, confuse each other, and have to untangle the communication. So you're right in the mix and you are welcome to stick around and muddle through with the rest of us.

[koffeewitch]

oops I realize now I jumped in with my poor attempt at humor (tho' very sincere opinion) in the middle of an extremely serious *discussion*. I guess that's what happens when you don't stop to lurk a moment before posting. But God, I get so angry when I see how we women are trained to look at each part of our bodies separately instead of seeing ourselves as whole. A woman doesn't ever think she is attractive...she evaluates her complexion, eyes, hair, nose, belly, breast, thighs, knees, calves, ankles, feet, height... Men do not look at their bodies this way, with this much hatred, with this much obsessive misery. And then when anyone of us GETS cancer, we realize the insanity of it. What wouldn't we give for a healthy body, no matter how "imperfectly" shaped... or even a youthful body once we begin to age. If you think society treats you as less than for being small chested, wait, oh wait, until you start to age... Life is so short, love what ya got. (and sorry for butting in like a complete ass yet again)...

[Allison-Shine]

I found the breast cancer ad on youtube:

Save the Boobs

What's interesting is, the last shot (of the wet t-shirt) almost looks like a different girl with a smaller chest. I like that one better.

The commerical seems so contrived. And the guy lounging in the pool and the group of guys dressed as sailors look kind of umm...gay.

• I like the black guy at 0:16 in the commercial "Dayum...I gotta get me some of that !"
• The middle aged guy at 0:19 looks like he's wants to pop a Viagara
• The blonde at 0:33 looks like she could be a regular in the Small Breast thread but she looks like she is not jealous but is in admiration
• The dog at 0:38 must have been looking at a steak, the director did a great job of making the dog's amusement look genuine

[buttercups]

Yeah it does look like a different girl, but i think its supposed to be the same one? Idk I think if I were younger and uneducated about breast cancer and looking at that ad, I would think that breast cancer didn't apply to me because I don't have those big bouncing breasts. So what is it really saying? It could have been more effective by showing a bunch of different sized and aged women in bikinis or tank tops or whatever and then putting on the same saying "you know you like them". That ad just does not seem to send the right message to people who may be unaware of breast cancer and who it affects. Also, though breast cancer is very deadly in young women the main target age and the people who get breast cancer the most are older women- again it doesn't seem to give quite the right information. That ad is kind of just giving men another excuse to oogle women and stare at big boobs- and I'm sure a lot of big breasted gals would not appreciate another opportunity for everyone to stare unashamedly at their chest. Yes we want to save the boobs, but I think its important to stress that we're looking to save everyone here like you guys have pointed out, and that ad does not portray that.

[karategrrl]

I found the breast cancer ad on youtube:

Save the Boobs

What's interesting is, the last shot (of the wet t-shirt) almost looks like a different girl with a smaller chest. I like that one better.

[karategrrl]

I hope this isn't a derail, but I personally know a man who got breast cancer.

Not a derail at all. Yes, this happens!! and when it does, the men who get it often have to deal with embarrassment on top of fighting for their lives b/c it's a "female" issue and somehow makes them "unmanly." Just more macho bullcrap.

buttercups, breast cancer is an equal-opportunity disease. Small-breasted women can get it just like larger-busted women. Often it can crop up along the ribcage, chest wall and armpits, so sounds like your doc is doing the right thing. (I work in health care marketing/education.) I can see how those ads are offensive, though, b/c I feel that way, too--like according to those ads, I won't get anyone's sexual interest OR concern for my health b/c I'm small. Stupid morons.

[treehugger]

I don't know why but that whole breast cancer ad just made me angry. I understand that they're trying to spread awareness but once again its at the objectification of women. It sounds weird but I also feel really singled out when it comes to the whole breast health and breast cancer issue, as though it doesn't apply to me and because I'm female I want it to. I just never feel a part of the female species I guess bc I really don't possess any of the assets to qualify me as one. I know in my head I can get breast cancer, but when I look down I think "well, there's not really much there for cancer" even though I know thats not true.

I hope this isn't a derail, but I personally know a man who got breast cancer.

[Persiflager]

*delurks*

Thigh-highs, crinoline, thigh-highs thigh-highs thigh-highs!

*relurks*

[buttercups]

I don't know why but that whole breast cancer ad just made me angry. I understand that they're trying to spread awareness but once again its at the objectification of women. It sounds weird but I also feel really singled out when it comes to the whole breast health and breast cancer issue, as though it doesn't apply to me and because I'm female I want it to. I just never feel a part of the female species I guess bc I really don't possess any of the assets to qualify me as one. I know in my head I can get breast cancer, but when I look down I think "well, there's not really much there for cancer" even though I know thats not true. My GYN does this like 2 second "breast exam" on me thats basically just feeling my ribs..I guess its another part of being a woman that I feel I'm missing out on regardless of whether its something positive or negative. In any event that ad just puts big boobs back in my face and pretty much says guys will only care about boobs (and women for that matter) if they're "voluptuous" and hot enough to make their "jaws drop". I will never get that jaw-dropping reaction. Maybe from something I say, but def not from this tiny body. Does that mean my chest is useless and men won't care if it gets cancer? Karategrrl I agree with you, I think it is sad. As much as I'm all about breast cancer awareness I hope I don't run into one of these ads myself, its the last thing I need right now.

[Aithinne]

On this topic, I saw a cute shirt over the weekend: "Big or small, save them all!"

Lol! I want that shirt!! Faaaaabulous, dahling karategrrl!