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> Bacterial Vaginosis--or--embarrassing bad smell
quietmadness
post Jun 17 2006, 09:44 AM
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I broke down.

I just took out my spare script of Metrogel and started using that two nights ago. The odor has disappeared, along with the extra discharge.

It's just AMAZING to me that a few days worth of the "right" antibiotic makes such a HUGE difference! Freakin' shit.

So, now that I know about the boric acid capsules, I guess I'll try that for maintenance.

WORDS OF WISDOM TO ALL MY BV-BUSTIES: After spending a good amount of $$ on both Jamu Stick AND Enzara---they are worthless. Don't even waste your money OR time on those two things!

I plan on completing the Metrogel treatment, and using the boric acid gel caps for maintenance.

Thanks, Y'all for your support and kindness!

--Quietmadness--
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mela
post Jun 16 2006, 10:14 AM
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Hi Bincha2

I also had a colposcopy and was diagnosed with cervical dyplasia/ HPV. I asked my doctor if this is why I was having reoccurent bv and she said "no". However I was a vigin when I met my bf 2 years ago and I never had any odor issues before we started having unportected sex / I started using seasonale.

I was treated numerous times (with flayl, metrogel)/ tried to heal myself by using a whole bunch of methods. So far I'm on month 2 without BV (after battling with it for a year) and the only thing that helped was a 2 day high dose of flagyl (2000 ml)along with the same dosage that was given to my bf. We didnt have much sex within the first month we were treated I was expecting it to come back and was scared. However now sex is more frequent so far everything is alright but again it might not work for everyone. I am extremely paranoid that it will return and I ask my bf to smell me because I dont now what is a normal smell. When I had BV sometimes the smell was really nasty like sea water other times it was mild but my bf was able to tell the difference of how I smelled when we first started sleeping together to when I began having BV.

Good Luck.
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sassy
post Jun 16 2006, 07:53 AM
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Dolores: I've been using two boric acid inserts each night. I know you said to use one in the morning and one at night but I find it more convenient to use them at the same time. The symptoms are gone but I am continuing using them until next week just to be sure. I'm thinking of buying the Primal Defense as well or maybe the vaginal acidophilus because that is supposed to put good bacteria back in the vagina.
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dolores
post Jun 15 2006, 11:52 PM
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sassy:

I am sending you lots of good vibes in hopes that the boric acid works for you. If the smell comes back, try another round of it twice instead of once per day for 7 days, or once a day for 14 days, which is what I originally had to do to completely wipe out all symptoms.

I too got the clear odorless discharge while on boric acid. it is normal and will clear up when you finish your treatment.

so far I am still doing pretty good in my post-period phase despite a minor scare. last saturday I had sex as soon as my cycle finished. yay me. But unfortunately in the middle of it, the condom broke!! Needless to say, I was really pissed because I've been working so hard and expending so much energy to keep my kitty pristine. Luckily the guy did not ejaculate inside, but I was still worried about pre-cum seeping in and started to get really paranoid that my BV was going to come back from the skin to skin "contamination." What a mood-killer that was!

To combat this, as soon as I got home I immediately inserted a boric acid caplet, and waited to see what smell there was. At first there was none, but then after one more day went by, I could swear I smelled just the very faintest tinge of amine (not even fishy really, more like the pre-fish smell, if you know what I mean) so I went back on the boric acid for one more night and now its been another 48 hours and things seem ok so far. i guess this is an example of how you can use boric acid as 'maintenance' (minus the freaking out part). Especially handy for accidents like condoms breaking or leaking.

which reminds me now that I am done with the boric acid its time to get back on the Primal Defense for a spell to balance everything out. I meant to mention that it's probably better to abstain from taking PD while using the boric acid, because the boric acid will kill all bacteria, bad or good. I think it's better to wait til you are done and can start the good bacteria "repopulation" process in a neutral environment. i could be wrong on that... maybe Doctor Christian will have an opinion?
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jewelscando
post Jun 15 2006, 07:24 PM
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To Everyone, I know I used my last name, but to be honest, I don't care. You're all my sisters in pain, and if you can't handle knowing my last name, then, oh well!! ;) Besides, I can guarantee that my name is probably the most common on this board!!
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bincha2
post Jun 15 2006, 06:09 PM
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well i'm back on metro gel....and i recently has an abnormal pap smear wich lead to a colposcopy and a very painful biopsy....i'm getting ym results at the end of the week but is has to do w/ my constant bv.....
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neverending
post Jun 15 2006, 04:30 PM
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precious83:Thanks! :-)
jewelscando:Girl you are on it.Keep up the good work!
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sassy
post Jun 15 2006, 01:52 PM
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Yay! That's so exciting! I can't wait to hear from him after he looks over our extensive pages.
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jewelscando
post Jun 15 2006, 01:48 PM
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Hey Everyone!! The Doctor emailed me. Here's his email along with my response!! We might be on to something here!! (PLEASE GOD!!!!)

Ms. Lopez:
Thank you very much for your email. I will definitely try to visit
your
link within the week. And you might inform your group that I do care
and I
am in the process of updating my web site with new treatment
information
every few days. I guess that I am an optimist because I feel very
confidantly that a breakthrough in our understanding and towards a more
lasting cure is just around the corner. I am also hoping to soon start
selling pH dipsticks (small quantities-- reasonably priced) from my web
site
so that women can have a scientific way on monitoring the vaginosis
fluctuations in their bodies. I am also thinking of beginning my own
Internet blog sheet on BV.
By the way, have anyone in your group circulated a way of
administering 3%
hydrogen peroxide rinses or douches in not too excessive a quantity.
I've
heard of women soaking tampons. Have you? Is there a certain brand
that
for some reason is better, more adbsorbent-- whatever? I would
definitely
appreciate it if you could get back to me with anything that you can
find
out.

Dr. Christian

My Response:

Dr. Christian,

THANK YOU so much for responding!! I have read a few of the girls on the board have tried the Hydrogyn Peroxide treatments, more so in Douches then on a Tampon. Just a quick heads up, we have all tried almost everything under the sun. A few examples are, Primal Defense, Tea Tree Oil, All prescription medications including Tindazole, Boric Acid, Achidiphilus pills (orally and vaginally), Apple Cidar Vinegar, Tetrasil, garlic vaginally, Vitamin C vaginally, and probably more then I can think of right now.

The girls on the board are very excited to talk with you, and you may receive more emails from others too.

We vary from all ages, young to older, and at least one of the girls was a virgin when she came down with B.V. Me personally, mine came on approx. 6 months after a Hysterectomy. I still have my ovaries, but nothing else. B.V. seems to go away after Prescription meds, but returns within a few weeks, or after having sex a few times. Condoms have been used but B.V. still seems to return. Using Tea Tree Oil mouthwash befor oral has also been tried, and cutting back on sugars and things as well.

We all are at our witts ends, and are excited to find a Doctor who "Cares".

Thank you again for your timely response!! I look forward to hearing what you discover!!

Thank you,

Julie
Arizona
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precious83
post Jun 15 2006, 12:12 PM
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Hey neverending: Use vinegar in your rinsing cycle. It will get the scent out.
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precious83
post Jun 15 2006, 12:12 PM
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Hey neverending: Use vinegar in your rinsing cycle. It will get the scent out.
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neverending
post Jun 15 2006, 09:40 AM
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Hey everyone!I just wanted to give everyone an update on me.Well,I got my acidophilus suppositories and I used them for one week.After that week I got a lot of blood down below.Where that came from I do not know.I started taking acidophilus orally and it seems to be helping a little bit.I am so sick of this I don't know what to do.I haven't had BV for a while but i'm having problems with yeast.Eventhough I have'nt had the bv for a while now I still smell it in my clothes.I know it sounds weird but i'm telling the truth.I have to wash my undies and pants many times in order to get the smell out.Has anybody else noticed that the scent lingers in your clothes?

P.S. I emailed that guy this forum
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jewelscando
post Jun 14 2006, 06:55 PM
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Sassy, HOW AWESOME!! I'm very happy for you!! Happy Anniversary!! Hey, EVERYONE should email this guy, his email is email@drchristian.com.
Great idea Sassy!!
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sassy
post Jun 14 2006, 05:26 PM
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jewels: I saw that site before but I've never e-mailed him. Maybe someone should e-mail him this forum's link and tell him that all these women are suffering and all of us have already tried prescribed methods. I know it's a long shot, but maybe if doctors began to see what a big problem this is, they would take it more seriously!
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sassy
post Jun 14 2006, 05:24 PM
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Hey everyone. I've been using the boric acid for three nights now and the smell is gone. The discharge I'm having now is different too...I think it's just the boric acid coming back out. It's definately not the BV because it's clear and doesn't smell bad. I'm planning on using the boric acid until next weekend and then I'm going to have a "fun" weekend because it's my anniversary with my boyfriend.
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jewelscando
post Jun 13 2006, 09:36 PM
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Girls, check out this site I just found. And you can email the doctor with questions. I haven't emailed him yet, but who knows, maybe he can help!! http://www.vaginosis.com/
http://www.bacterialvaginosis.net/
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ja2035
post Jun 13 2006, 07:12 PM
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You can get the primal defense at GNC or the Vitamin Shoppe....etc.
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jewelscando
post Jun 13 2006, 07:07 PM
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Ok, checked online and found out my damn prescription hasn't even been sent out yet. I ordered it from Horizon Pharmacies online on May 17th. WTF?? So, I think I may as well bite the big bullet and go to the damn gyno and pay the fricken price. I'm glad I didn't order the Jamu Stick. Although my kitty could use some tighting, what you all are going through scares the shit out of me!! I think my next purchase will be the Primal Defense since you all seem to swear by it. Do you have to buy it online?? Oh well, I can smell the smell again, although it wasn't there this weekend for sex so THANK GOD FOR THAT. Trying to find a way to get out of seeing my boyfriend this weekend, so I don't have to put up with the smell. How fricking embarrassing you know?? Although he's very supportive, you know what must be going through his mind!!! "Hey babe, would you like a can of RAW TUNA???", "Oh, never mind dear, I get enough from your kitty!!"
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ja2035
post Jun 13 2006, 02:35 PM
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Been lurking for awhile in this newgroup. My problems began in Aug '05 when I was put on strong antibiotics for a severe ear infection. Shortly, after I was diagnosed with BV and treated with antibiotics 3x over a period of 6 weeks. Then my doctor said everything was normal and maid me feel crazy. I have tried numerous things. Jamu stick did not work....then I accidently dropped it and it shattered into a million pieces. Hydrogen Peroxide douche worked at first and then stopped working. Vitamin C up there burnt like hell and did not do anything about the smell. Enzara did not work at all. TTO did not work and the smell of it made me sick. Currently, I am using Primal Defense Ultra 3x per day, Kyolic (garlic 4 tabs per day) and it seems to be working. I have done away with all sugar and flour products; basically doing the Adkins diet. I have the Yeast Arrest suppositories but have yet to try them. I will continue to use the Primal Defense and Kyolic and let you know if it continues to work for me. A great book I got was The Yeast Syndrome...it talks about ways to renew good bacteria in your gut and a good diet to cleanse your body. It also has doctors listed in the back that treat symptoms that we are all experiencing. I have given up on my family doctor....she makes me feel like I'm crazy and everything is normal....I know normal and this smell and discharge can not be normal. This problem has caused my so much stress that I have had to go on anti depressents to keep from committing suicide. I know how frustrating this can be and hope that we can all come up with a solution.
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quietmadness
post Jun 13 2006, 10:14 AM
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MRJ: If you still have one ovary, then your "cycles" would still be occuring, although only every other month, right? Wow...that would be odd. Hope you find some relief!

Shorty: Yeah...it's actually some kind of real "tissue,"--by that I mean it's some kind of "skin" type thing! I don't know WHAT to think of that. I'm wondering if it's not just like dead BV or whatever coming out, or if that stick is caustic enough to produce that---it CAN'T be GOOD---??

The smell hasn't improved, either...

Man, between the itchy-scratchies, the discharge, and the odor, I'd just about trade my pooty in for a package! Stupid shit...
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