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> The Girl With Bad Skin- All About Adult Acne
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post Oct 22 2010, 12:48 PM
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Jawline/chin breakouts can be troubleshooted without going into dogma.

Are the pimples large, hard, painful, and under the skin, i.e. have no head, you might not see it but you can feel it? That is cystic acne. It is unable to be treated topically and it is almost always hormone related. Most dermatologists would prescribe antibiotics, but those interfere with birth control, which balance hormones and can ease cystic acne. I personally chose the birth control route, and I haven't had a cyst in about three years.

Blackheads and clogged pores are a symptom of overproduction of sebum (oil) mixing with dead skin cells and clogging pores. Toss in some P. acne bacteria and you've got a classic pimple. These issues can be prevented by the following:
Wash your face with a cleanser that has salicylic acid, which breaks down the bonds that hold dead skin cells to the face.
If you wear foundation or heavy powder, always use a makeup-removing cleanser first. Most acne cleansers are not designed to remove makeup. Yes, you are washing your face twice. If you do it right, it will not harm your skin at all.
I personally go for toner. The one I use has salicylic acid and an alcohol that binds to the product, not the skin. If you opt for a toner, really invest in it. Sea Breeze, etc. will detroy your skin.
Moisturize with an oil-free product. Bonus points for ones with retinol, which increase skin cel turnover inaddition to promoting collagen synthesis.
Spot treat with a benzoyl peroxide prodct, which kills bacteria in pimples.

While diet plays a part in overal skin health, you should also ask yourself this: Do you touch your face a lot? Is your hair in contact with your face most of the time? Do you wipe down phones, keboards, and your mouse with a cleaning cloth? Do you change pillowcases frequently? Are you washing makeup brushes? Are you still using makeup sponges? The list goes on and on.
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post Oct 16 2010, 03:03 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I noticed a number of ladies mentioning that they had PCOS. I too have PCOS and have struggled with both acne and hirsutism for years. It seems like whenever you get one PCOS symptom under control, another flares up. If your acne or hirsutism is related to PCOS, I would suggest listening to the PCOS Challenge radio show at www.pcoschallenge.com. They interview a lot of dermatologists, endocrinologists and other doctors that address these issues and provide some decent answers. Hope that helps. Good luck!


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post Jul 24 2010, 09:11 AM
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epi, it sounds like a number of things may be contributing to your acne. It could be your sunblock like you said. Throughout my life, I've noticed that some perfumes and dyes in shampoos, conditioners, cleansers, and lotions really irritate my skin. What type of sunblock do you use? Perhaps an organic line like Jason or Alba might work for you.

Jawline and chin breakouts are related to diet and hormones. A naturopath really helped me to understand the connection between diet and health. He told me that those of us with acne is the body's way of getting rid of toxins. It is the largest organ and for us, with chronic acne, the weakest part of our body. Just because someone has clear skin does not mean they are healthy. Each body processes toxins in different ways, i.e. joint pain, our internal organs, etc. You might want to notice what you are eating and how your skins reaction to it in order to figure out the trigger for your skin. When I am eating alot of processed foods and high carbs during PMS (in addition to hormonal changes), I get more breakouts on my face. Here is a link for what Chinese medicine thinks your skin may reflect about your health.


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post Jul 23 2010, 11:14 PM
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epinephrine, i've heard that acne in general can be related to inefficient digestion: your guts don't get do a good job of getting rid of toxins, so your skin joins the effort. i don't know about it being specific to a certain part of your face, though. i personally find i get more acne on my jaw line if i'm not really stringent about changing my pillowcases (and washing my blankets) very frequently and thoroughly. i've started using the hottest and heaviest wash settings, with bleach if possible, for those. i've also stopped using fabric softener on my pillowcases, which seems to be helping a bit as well...
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post Jul 23 2010, 02:24 AM
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I've got one bitch of a breakout right now, especially under my jawline. I always break out there, but this is a really bad one. I look like I have a disease. I think it's because of the sunblock I kept slathering on over my vacation. Sunblock tends to do fucked up things to my skin. Time to shell out for one that won't do this to me, I guess.

I've also heard that acne around the jaw and neck can be a symptom of digestive problems or a poor diet or something like that - anyone know anything about this? I've got chronic acne there that I just cannot fucking get rid of.


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post Apr 25 2010, 12:11 PM
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My chest and back are broken out something FIERCE. I hardly ever get body acne, and this appeared pretty much overnight. I don't know where it came from- maybe a new soap that I bought. I stopped using the soap and replaced it with an acne wash and the breakout seems to be subsiding a little, but not much. It's so RED, and it's hard to hide because it's right under my collarbone and being busty, I have hardly any tops with high necks.
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:49 AM
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Angie, I've had the same experience w/ spending a lot of time out doors clearing up my skin. I can't figure out what it is - soakin up the vitamin d? the chance that the air indoors is stagnant and of poor quality? or maybe being outside makes me happy & causes hormonal changes???

I get a lot of aches & pains when I work at a desk too: neck, wrists, hips & back pain. All of this relieves itself when I'm working in the field. I'm pretty sure sitting around inside just isn't good for me. I think it's a sign we all need to spend more time playing in the dirt smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 08:35 AM
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I'm still having intense breakouts, I think still stress related. I've switched products because the Body Shop re-formulated their tea tree products and they don't work very well anymore. Boo. Switching to an organic moisturiser helped a bit. I'm trying to stay away from any harsh drying products since they only make your face produce more grease anyways. I'm tempted to just switch to plain soap and water and see what happens. I feel like having all these different products is only making my face worse and messing with my skin balance so it will never get back to normal.

I've always found that spending more time outdoors solved most of my problems, even when wearing greasy sunscreen and an ATV full face helmet (that never got washed) and bugspray and generally being covered in dirt all day. I think it's the combination of sunlight and of sweating all the impurities right out of my skin while working. And maybe getting a lot of dirt on your face exfoliates and absorbs oil, lol.
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post Apr 16 2010, 11:46 AM
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I was thinking about trying tea tree oil as a spot-treatment. It seems like my skin needs an extra 'something' to keep the whiteheads down. I wish I knew what that something was, I've never had much luck with salicylic or glycolic acid, either. I also get blackheads along my lip line. They seem to stay for at least 6 months.

I also put a full-face motorcycle helmet on a few times a day. I wash it often, but it rubs up against my face.



ooh, yeah. people at work think i'm crazy because i frequently wipe down the phones at the nurses' station with sanitizing wipes. but if i don't, i get cystic pimples in front of my ear and along my jaw, right where the phone hits. besides, i get grossed out when i pick up the phone and it smells like face.

sometimes the tea tree on spots seems to help, and sometimes it doesn't. often i feel like the clove oil dries them up a little faster. but it's really smelly! the derma e products are heavy on tea tree oil, too. yay for antiseptic properties!

sometimes i have trouble with certain lip glosses making me break out around my mouth, although it was more of a problem in high school, when i would get the reeeally goopy, slick frosting ones.
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post Apr 15 2010, 07:32 PM
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I was thinking about trying tea tree oil as a spot-treatment. It seems like my skin needs an extra 'something' to keep the whiteheads down. I wish I knew what that something was, I've never had much luck with salicylic or glycolic acid, either. I also get blackheads along my lip line. They seem to stay for at least 6 months.

I also put a full-face motorcycle helmet on a few times a day. I wash it often, but it rubs up against my face.
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post Apr 14 2010, 10:19 AM
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i really like the derma e "very clear" products--they have a really good moisturizer for oily/combination skin, and i use the face wash at night. in the morning while i shower i use neutrogena's "stress control" scrub. i've bounced around to try different scrubs that use the same active ingredients (salicylic acid and glycolic acid), but for whatever reason they don't seem to do as well. if i'm vigilant about cleaning my face twice a day and changing out my pillowcases crazily frequently, things stay controlled down to a dull roar. i still will have some roughness, and hormones seem to stir things up a bit.

sometimes i'll use a little clove oil or tea tree oil as spot treatments, as well.

also, queen helene's mint julep clay mask once every few days. urgh, i have super oily skin. i imagine this regimen would be too harsh for many people. i get a little worried seeing my skin get a little more delicate as i get older, but the oil production and acne have yet to slow down.

i've pretty much gotten away from benzoyl peroxide all together except as an occasional spot treatment. it's just mean to my fair skin.

for redness i've found that physician's formula has a pressed powder in a (scary-looking) green palette, that does a great job if applied sparingly, with a big brush (not the little tiny flat one it comes with). it also has never seemed to make me break out, which is rare, even products that are labeled as non-comodogenic often do. if i use it on non-red skin i can look a little ghostly, but i have a coworker who is korean who uses it just as a daily powder.

i keep thinking i should give hormonal birth control a try to see if it helps, but i'm just...leery of tampering with my hormones. we'll see, though.
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post Apr 14 2010, 08:41 AM
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I got some cream from the doctors (I forget what's it's called, I've taken it before) to clear up the acne rosacea and it helped with the nodule acne but I'm still getting those, sort of right between the edge of my eyebrows and my scalp. I used the cream on them and they go away pretty quick but I've never had them like this before - they usually come 3 or 4 at a time in patchy spots and there doesn't seem to be any pattern. I already only wear under eye cover up and mascara - no make up anywhere except my eyes so it's not make up related. I just switched to yasmin 3 weeks ago so we'll see how that goes too.


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post Apr 13 2010, 04:48 PM
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I've been trying to find a regimen to keep my face clear. Disaster struck. =/ I still break out along my cheeks and mouth, so I decided to try the acne.org skincare regimen. I didn't have a single zit on my face three days into the routine. I was beyond elated. I haven't been 100% clear in over a year! The next few days were uncomfortable -- my skin felt tight, and I was quite flaky. However, six days into it, I had to drop everything and go to the doctor. I was not able to open my mouth to eat because the benzoyl peroxide burned my skin. My face felt like I had a mask over it. (Think lobster-style sunburn...mega-ow!)

It's been about 2 weeks since that most uncomfortable day. I'm still dealing with redness and blotchiness. I'm not angry at the program by any means; it was simply too strong for me, and I didn't stop in time. I've been trying to combat this redness without using makeup. Hopefully it goes away soon, my boss thought I was 'angry' since I was flushed. *sigh*
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post Feb 6 2010, 07:50 PM
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nbdx - for sure, I agree. I had an ultrasound, which as it turned got scheduled for the day before I ovulated. Sure enough there were bumps or whatever on the ultrasound, but when I asked my doctor if they knew whether that would affect the results (you know, were they regular follicles or actual cysts?), she looked at me with a blank expression and said "I have no idea." Great. I had the regular pelvic, pap etc and everything else came back clean. I am planning on finding a new doctor by the time of my next physical in the fall. I probably should sooner, but there are always other things that come up and I just have no idea where to look. one of my friends doesn't have a doctor at all because none of the clinics in our city are accepting new patients. <dramatic sigh> but anyways, I started taking chasteberry because it's supposed to be a hormone balancer, and it seems to work when I remember to take it. I've also been attempting low-meat, low-dairy to get away from artificial hormones, but it's hard to stick to when my boyfriends eats nothing but meat and cheese. Also my acne varies considerably depending on my diet, stress, and how much makeup I wear, so I know it's not entirely hormonal.

I had a friend with acne rosacea, she had to take oral antibiotics to get rid of it. For myself, I've completely stopped wearing makeup and it's helped significantly. I'm still trying to get used to how scary pale my skin is in the winter without makeup, but it's better than big red zits. I've also found out our city has been having air quality warnings since halfway through January - pollution is at almost twice the level at which they start giving mild warnings. something to do with air pockets trapping all the smog near the ground. People with athsma had to stay indoors, and I'm sure the nastiness and the humidity were f-ing with my skin. thank you, alberta advantage.
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post Feb 3 2010, 10:59 AM
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Ugh, I don't usually have a problem with acne but the last two months have been very annoying. I break out with this type of acne on my forhead that's a big cluster of tiny red bumps. It doesn't look like zits, but sometimes they'll be quite red. In the past I've gotten a cream from the doctor but I haven't had time to make an appointment this month. I think it's called acne rosacea.

Now I'm breaking out in the ones like doodle describes, the nodules. I've always gotten one every so often but this month I've had 5 on my forehead, two on my chin, and one on the back of my neck. I wouldn't care if they didn't hurt and leave behind that scar.

I think the soap I'm currently using is contributing now too.


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post Feb 2 2010, 07:02 PM
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Hey Angie, I'd say it would be a good idea to get a second opinion. There isn't a test to confirm PCOS, but they should have done more testing to see what your ovaries look like. Did your doc order a full pelvic exam? Also, have you tried a low-dose BC? It may be able to clear up your skin without taking over the rest of your body, or there are androgen-receptor blockers to keep levels low.

Also, you were told you have high testosterone, would a change in diet make a change? I know there are estrogen-high diets (or testosterone-high diets) I wonder if your acne is completely hormonal. Mine sure is. I'd definitely find a doctor (perhaps a specialist) for a second opinion.
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post Jan 30 2010, 07:59 PM
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My acne has been horrible lately. All around my chin and lower cheeks I've been getting tiny pimples. They're a little red but no pus or anything. They wouldn't be so bad if I didn't scar so easily! Every single time I get a pimple it goes away and leaves a red or purple dot on my face that won't go away. And I don't even touch the damn things. On top of that, all this winter I've had this recurring rash on my neck. Bright red. Maybe it's dermatitis from my coat/scarf. At the same time, if i don't cover my neck, I break out in hives because I'm also sensitive to cold. Last week I must have scratched it too much and it scarred. Now I look like I have hickies all over my neck.

I've been putting Mederma on my scars, which ain't cheap, and I can't tell if it's helping or not. I'm wondering if maybe that's the reason I'm breaking out so bad in the first place.

I've also been getting acne on my chest lately. And these little red scaly patches have appeared there and down my arm the last few days.

Fucking skin!!!!
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post Jan 30 2010, 05:59 PM
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Hey nbdx, thanks for the info. My doctor actually doagnosed me with pcos earlier this year, or more acurately, she diagnosed me with high testosterone, called it pcos, and when I refused to go back on the pill told me there wasn't much else to be done but look out for irregular menstrual cycles. Needless to say I'm neither thrilled nor convinced by her work (or lack thereof) and hoping I can find a new doctor by next year. I don't have any hair problems, the occasional irregular cycle, and my acne is usually very mild, milder than most of my friends. We live in a pretty polluted city with a lot of refineries on the outskirts of town, and in the winter the dirt, dry air and lack of sunlight are what seem to aggravate it for everyone. I have started to take a multivitamin and chasteberry to balance out my hormones, but it's too early to tell if its working.
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post Jan 28 2010, 08:10 PM
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Hey all, I don't usually post here, but I can tell you my recent experience with my testing of PCOS.

I have been off BC for about 9 months, and I was getting signs of hirsutism and moderate acne. I've never had to deal with acne in my life! It was so painful. It was located all around my mouth line and by my ears. I had enough hair on my breasts and below my belly button to prompt my doctor to order some tests. I had a thyroid panel, I had my hormone levels checked, and I had a pelvic ultrasound (Which is not fun. I got probed.) Turns out that my hormones were normal and I didn't have PCOS. My doctor put me on Zovia 2 months ago. My doctor said it is very good at handling some of the symptoms I've been experiencing. And it has been fantastic. I get a little nauseous when I started a new pack, but my acne is gone and the hirsutism is not progressing.

I've always wondered that I had bad hormones, or that something was wrong with me because my body looks quite different from others, but after getting that hormone panel and ultrasound, I've been less stressed. I think that if you're showing any possible signs of PCOS (and adult acne is a big sign) you should get it checked out. The peace of mind alone could clear up a blemish or two. I am almost clear-faced, once again. smile.gif

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post Jan 25 2010, 08:09 AM
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Angie, I haven't tried aloe. But I feel your pain. My skin went through that a few months ago. It was just nonstop all of a sudden. I don't know what was happening. I finally went to the derm & she put me on Retin A. It's helped a lot.

Breakouts suck!
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