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bklynhermit
post Apr 27 2006, 03:21 PM
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on the one hand, redoing floors seems like maybe a cool project.

on the other hand, it also seems like one of those things where you get what you pay for.

maybe you could do one small room and see how you like it, and if you hate it, you could call a pro to finish the rest?
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post Apr 27 2006, 01:39 PM
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amywoman, I think it'll me cheaper to do it ourselves. I can't imagine how much it may cost to pay someone to refinish them for us. I admit the whole process seems overwelming. Guess I have got to roll up my sleeves and do some research.


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post Apr 27 2006, 01:01 AM
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Hi all...I'm skimming really fast, so apologies if I write something someone else has covered...

What I've read (and I read a lot of this stuff - they don't call it decorating porn for no reason)...the best way to keep a small room from looking cluttered or closed in is to keep everything in similar tones, regardless of what colours you choose. So, say if you have all dark-toned furniture. Then you want to either paint your room in a mid to dark tone, or paint your furniture a lighter colour to go with lighter walls. Ditto keeping your upholstery, bedcovers, curtains, etc., in similar tones to the walls. You could end up using, say, a pale green and a pale blue together, as long as they are in a similar tonal family. Keeping things in the same colour family would be even better, but it's not necessary. By the same token, you could do everything in dark blues and purples, as long as you keep the tones similar....with small spaces, colour is about illusion.

I think with choosing between yellow and green, the best thing is to decide what you need for the room to work. Do you need something cheery when you wake up in the morning? Yellow! Do you need to calm down and relax in the evening? Green!

More to the point, do you like the free yellow or not? I don't think I could ever live in a yellow room, even if the paint were free - but my mama painted almost her entire place yellow, and loves it. Free is nice, but if you discover you hate it, then you'll have save a tiny bit of money, but you will be affecting your mental and emotional health - colour can have that strong an impact on us! Paint is not really that expensive, especially if you are only painting a small room...and if you buy good quality paint, you will need less of it to get good coverage. If you take your room measurements to a paint store, they will help you figure out how much you need. I think you can do it yourself at behr.com, too.

Also, the direction you face makes a huge difference. If you don't get any natural sunlight, then you probably want to utilize warmer colours to keep the room from being depressing. If you get a lot of sun, then you probably want to stick to cooler colours to keep the room from feeling too hot. Other lighting issues matter too - such as how MUCH light you get (is the room dark or bright).

BUT! A lot of people limit themselves by thinking that green, blue, and purple are always cool, while yellow, orange and red are always warm. Not totally true! You can get cool yellows and warm greens...you can get cool reds and warm blues...so I don't think it matters which one you choose - it's a question of preference, picking the right "temperature," and making sure you pick colours and tones that suit your lighting levels. So be sure to test a BIG patch (not a colour chip - paint a 1 metre swatch on your wall or on a piece of cardboard) of whatever colour you think you want. Leave it up for at least 24 hours so you can see it in all the different light your room will get.

(When I started learning more about colour as an artist, it was a huge revelation to learn that there ARE no temperature-neutral colours in manufactured pigments...even primary colours in the form of paint pigment don't come out temperature-neutral, so it's important to know which direction your colour choices lean towards - cool or warm.)

When I painted my living room (I face south), I chose a cool, soft, green-grey neutral called Contemplation (Behr). In some light it looks grey, in some light it looks green, and in some light it looks blue!

ETA: here is a basic rundown on colour and mood (first website that came up when I googled "colour" and "mood"!)...but keep in mind that it can be mixed up a little, too. For example, if your favourite colour is lime green, remember that lime green is BOTH green AND yellow mixed together, and keep both colour-mood considerations in mind, as well as the tonal quality of the colour (whether it is tinted lighter or shaded darker). I have punches of lime green all over my apartment, and in some cases (often depending what it's paired with), it could be considered a warm, vibrant, stimulating colour...in others, a peaceful, tranquil colour.


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post Apr 26 2006, 09:41 PM
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Okay, minouska, we have something to work with. You say you *think* the room faces north? Are you in the northern hemisphere (where north will be the darker side)?

If your room faces north, be careful of colors you pick not having too cool of tones or too blue-ish of tones, since the kind of light you'll get will tend to be less and will feel "colder" in the wintertime. What's your climate?

I'm up in the midwest and I tend to float to warmer colors simply because we have so much coldness here. If you're in a hot area the opposite may well be true.

I love the blue-green I put on my walls..but I think it's a little darker than what you'd want for a north facing room.

I used to know a woman ages ago who painted a room a pale green called "celery bunch". She loved it. Or you can try at BHG.com (watch out for popup ads)..they have a program under their house and home section called "color a room" which lets you try virtual paint colors in sample rooms.

Do you want bold or serene? I'd suggest having accents in a color close to the green if you want mellow and serene...perhaps bluegreens, or yellows. Perhaps with a touch of orangey-rust SPARINGLY around the room...think of a fall colored candle. Like a pumpkin pie type of scent... Or a single pillow somewhere. It will really make the green pop.

I just love this stuff! :-)


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minouska
post Apr 26 2006, 09:08 PM
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Thanks for all the advice, everyone! I picked up some paint swatches after work and I'll just have to go from there, I guess. I think I'm leaning towards the green (yes, I'd get new curtains, Bklynhermit!), but I'm not sure yet. Unfortunately I can't try out the colors on the walls: I get the keys Friday and move in Sunday, so I can only paint on Saturday. The room is too small for me to paint it after I move in, because there will be no room to reach the walls around my stuff. I think it faces north, but I'm not completely sure. I'm hoping to make it a really comfy, cozy space (my boyfriend and I just broke up; we were living together so I'm moving out to live with roommates again and this is my first space in three years that's just mine). I think I want it to be more calming/relaxing than energizing, so the green sounds like it might be better. It will have to be a pretty pale green, though.
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:40 PM
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Ohh. I don't know how, ginger_kitty, but I do know from other people that it's a huge mess and very physically taxing. You sure you want to do it yourself?
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:12 PM
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My whole place is wood floors and its time to redo them. Has anyone ever done this? I need some direction on how to?


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post Apr 26 2006, 02:24 PM
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kjhink, oh man! 1/2 my house is shades of yellow or cream. i'm assuming you know about color, is it true that orange promotes violent behavior?

two of the slats in the bathroom door are broken so we tried to hang another door. believe it or not the length of the old door is 79 5/6 on one side and 78 1/8 on the other! i think i just need to repair the slots since the door that i thought was perfect to replace it istn't working, even though i measured a hundred times and thought i cut it exact. i guess i'll put it on two saw horses and make it a work table in the garage. has anyone else had trouble hanging doors? i was shocked at how hard it was having never tried it before.


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post Apr 26 2006, 11:53 AM
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Minouska,

I painted a very tiny bedroom yellow. What direction does the room face? Yellow is very sunny and bright and "get up and go"-ish. Which is why I used it in my east-facing bedroom...to make it easier to get up in the mornings. Not so conducive to relaxing in the evenings, or as easy to "romantisize up" for intimacy.

I've always felt like you can't disguise a small room using paint. Embrace it for what it is! Use the color that appeals to YOU the most because YOU will be the one living with it.

Try getting samples of paint and painting a big swatch of color on each wall. Live with it for a week or so. Observe what the colors do at different times of the day.

That said, the yellow was CHARMING in a small room. Believe it or not I also painted an *even smaller* room a green...not a sage green, but more of a green I can't describe. Brighter than sage green. More vivid.

It also looked charming in the other room. The green room *felt* more serene while the yellow room *felt* more cheerful.

Hope this helps a tad.


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post Apr 26 2006, 11:50 AM
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both yellow and sage tend to be good for bedrooms, have a relaxing 'vibe', and provided they're in the same general tone family, they would have just about the same effect on the size of the space. in my opinion, both colors work equally well in a bedroom.

so the choice is yours -- as for the curtains, i don't know that i'd choose sage curtains for a sage room. but sage curtains might look great in a yellow room, depending on the exact shade.
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post Apr 26 2006, 10:50 AM
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minouska, I think pale yellow will make the room look larger, but I think you should paint it whichever you like better. Small room that you're going to spend a lot of time in? Choose paint you like.

Plus they've done studies that have found yellow to be a color unconducive to relaxing. Just a thought . . .

A note on paint, should you decide to buy some. Don't buy supercheap paint; it is so much more difficult to work with and make look good. Sears actually makes good interior paint for a reasonable price. Good luck.
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post Apr 26 2006, 10:32 AM
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I always lurk in here and now I have a reason to post. Whee!

So, I'm moving into a tiny bedroom--11' by 7', about, with a corner taken out for the closet. It has high ceilings, one large window, and two doors. The walls are currenly white and grimy. I have permission to paint, but since I've never been able to paint a room before, I know nothing about it.

Two questions: what will make a small bedroom look larger, a pale, buttery yellow (free paint I can get from friends), or a light sage-y green (that I would buy myself)? Is one really preferable to the other, or is it just taste? I'm planning on buying a new blanket for my bed, so I don't really need to match anything. My furniture is all various kinds of wood. I already have sage green curtains, but I can buy new ones if necessary. Most of the eye level wall space will probably be taken up with book cases, a standing mirror, etc. I like yellow rooms but worry it might be a bit overpowering in a small bedroom? Is that the case?

Also, a previous tenant covered the walls with that blue fun-tac stuff for hanging posters....how do I get that off? I'm guessing it's been up for at least a year, if not longer.

Thanks for any advice!
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post Apr 25 2006, 12:23 PM
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I'd also love to see a photo, zora! Although my immediate thought is that if it won't hang straight, then hang a long pole along the wall and sort of artfully drape, wrap, and/or fold the fabric over it, maybe at a "jaunty" angle, so it looks like a piece of modern art. You could also staple-gun one end to a long 1x2 (similar to treehugger's idea), which would hold it sort of straight, and then hang the 1X2 on the wall (I don't know if the staples would wreck the fabric or not though). Maybe some better ideas will come when I see a pic!


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post Apr 25 2006, 04:04 AM
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I'd love to see a picture of it, zora. It sounds to me like you've already tried to hang it and it hung funny? Did you hang it with the third fringe side down, or up? Have you tried flipping it so the fringe is up at the top?

How delicate is the fabric? Is the fringe sewn onto it? I'm thinking some sort of frame could be made, a four sided hinged frame the same size as the coverlet, with two dowels or strips of wood per side. And it'd clamp together? Think, like two picture frames with a piano hinge across the top. And some sort of mechanism at the bottom to clamp it together. The fringe would stick out of the edges and sort of hold the fabric taut. The side without the fringe would just stay taut. And the frame could have those things on them that'd allow you to hang it like a picture?

Geesh, I can't describe this for crap but I can visualize it. Meh.


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post Apr 25 2006, 12:03 AM
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Okay, I have a weird item that I would like to display and it's kind of complicated. It's a silk coverlet for a bed. It's about a "full-size" coverlet with fringe on three sides. The fringe keeps the fabric tight on the three sides only. Now, the fabric is gorgeous and I think it's old. It's spanish and it's in beautiful shades of purple and when the light hits it, the embroidery changes color. I don't want to use this on our bed because it's very slippery. I would like to hang it, but because of the fringe, it hangs odd. Also, I really don't want to cut it. Anyone have any ideas for hanging such a weird peice of fabric? I'd like to have it hanging over the bed if possible, but I have no idea how. I'm going to try to find it and post a picture of it here soon.
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post Apr 24 2006, 05:11 AM
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cellijenni,

A book that I really, really love, is Christopher Lowell's "You can do it! Small space decorating". Check out the modern one (he does two), if you're into that at all. Seriously. It looks so zen when he's done.


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post Apr 23 2006, 03:27 PM
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thanks for the websites...

i'll definitely post more specifics later.

doodlebug...i totally agree. we're going to have to make a lot of choices together, but luckily we're both into relatively the same style.

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post Apr 23 2006, 10:25 AM
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Digs Magazine

HGTV small spaces section

useful tools at Better Homes & Gardens (see the links in the left-hand column)

It sounds like a big project cellijenni...if you have some ideas already that we could brainstorm on, please post them! Also, since you are moving into a space previously occupied by one of you, I think it's really important for both you and your partner to make a lot of the decisions together, even over things that seem small. (It's always the small things that come back to bite you in the ass later!)


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post Apr 23 2006, 09:45 AM
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www.apartmenttherapy.com

it's generally about smaller spaces, with an eye towards modern and contemporary styles. a lot of the stuff they feature there is quite expensive, but they do have good tips and tricks and their photo and video home tours are great inspiration. they also have local sites (in new york, LA, chicago, and now san francisco) where they make specific reccomendations of stores, contractors, etc.
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post Apr 23 2006, 09:20 AM
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Hello ladies...I'm fairly new to the board but have a MAJOR home decorating project ahead.

I'm moving into my boyfriend's house next month. Its an adorable house and he does a great job with the exterior and landscaping...but in the two years he's lived here he's never painted or given much thought to the interior. he's a bare bones kind of guy and up until now, its been just his space so i've never dipped my hand into the pot.

I'm a school teacher, so I plan to spend my summer ripping down wallpaper, painting walls...and making a few key furtniture purchases. we have our eye on a really nice chocolate brown leather set for the living room.

So my question is, any books or websites that you have found to be helpful for the starter home? Do any of you ladies have any experience or stories about turning a bachelor pad into a cozy home for two??? Wheres a girl to turn...
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