[doodlebug]

Ha ha, sassy! I had not taken the name that far in my head, but yes, it sounds like a gawdawful afternoon indeed!!!

Oh god, I shouldn't have come back into the Lounge tonight. Now I'm having Surrey flashbacks. Ohhhh...airband contest....oh, scary memories...

clover, I'll bet TC actually IS saying that right now, to someone, somewhere. To Xenu, maybe, at the special spaceship landing portal he had built behind the house.

We should invent a counter-$cientology cult religion and go get rich in Hollywood. It could be, like...Bustology.

[sassypants]

Ha! Doodlebug, that's exactly what my best friend said when she heard the name. Surry Cruise . . . sounds like a horrible suggestion for a starved Sunday afternoon.

[cloverbee]

charlie sheen is in need of some scientology says tom cruise. lol. not really.

[plynn]

couple days late so it's off topic now, but I can't help it...

A couple years I was watching the Vancouver Pride parade when a small float came by for the organization Out in Surrey. Everyone clapped politely but you could see a ton of supressed giggles. The two gay boys next to me cracked up and didn't even try to hide it - "Out in Surrey? My god, why wouldn't you just move?"

[lunasol]

is charlie sheen a scientologist too?

[jemisoutrageous]

"Drugs?"
"No. Thank you."
"I meant, are you here for drugs?"

I don't know,snaf--even waaaaaaaay before they got married she was so smug and 'look at me' about the whole thing. I still feel bad for her though. we've all been with assholes we thought we could change but she had kids with him.

[snafooey]

I think Denise Richards saying "I changed him" was her trying to rationalize her decision to be with him (and convince herself) and save face with the public, who basically considered her a laughingstock for getting together with such a notorious character in the first place.

I still think he peaked with his cameo in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

[raisingirl]

OMG. I had no idea. That movie is one of my all-time favorites. RIP, Heather Chandler.

[jemisoutrageous]

I am certainly NOT saying she deserves to be abused, Doodle.Re-reading what I wrote I can see how you could take it that way, however, so--

To clarify, what I meant by 'What did she really expect, marrying Charlie Sheen?' was that he would continue to abuse drugs, gamble and seek out prostitutes, regardless of how many 'I changed him---he's a new man' interviews she gave.

light, I know, I read that,too, but I also read that she had epilepsy and leukemia--either way, it's very sad, as she left an eight year old girl and seven year old twin boys behind.

And while I was researching, I read that Kim Walker, who played the Mega-Heather in Heathers--- "Did you eat a brain tumor for breakfast?" actually died of a brain tumor a few years ago. I had no idea, but that is creepy and so sad.

[light_bright]

Hey Jemisoutrageous, I think the prostitute/ porn star Chloe died of liver failure. I looked her up to see who she was, and what she looked like and in an article it said she had numerous health problems, epilepsy, etc.

[sybarite]

Me neither doodlebug. The very rich and very famous are not ultimately different to you and me. They're still accountable for their behaviour.

What struck me in Denise's declaration (obviously in addition to the examples of abuse) is how her husband's own celebrity was used to intimidate her and coerce her into not speaking out.

[doodlebug]

I don't see how any woman - not even one who made an "ambitious" marriage - deserves to be abused, or somehow earned her abuse. I don't get it.

[cucumberfruit]

yeah, the whole thing is fucked up. they both freak me out, but he freaks me out more.

ETA: also! in the celebrity baby blog photo he's doing the creep-out hand-on-the-belly move. if that's not a warning sign of wacked out celebrity fatherhood, then i just don't know.

[jemisoutrageous]

THAT is some fucked up shit. Especially the part about the porn star he cheated on her with having died of 'unspecified causes' and his reaction to her questioning him about it. 'No COmment'. 'No comment'. How cold and dirty.

The thing is, what did she REALLY expect, marrrying Charlie Sheen? And all the self-satisfied, self-congagulatory interviews they did together, her smug, 'I changed him and I married into Hollywood royalty' attitute---of course I feel bad for the girsl ,but I'm also kind of 'You reap what you soe, bitch.'

[doodlebug]

I read Denise Richards' entire declaration (the one linked in the article cucumberfruit posted). I don't know why I feel compelled to do these things. But I'm sure glad websites like The Smoking Gun exist. Having read what he put her through and all the ways he threatened her (his fascination with Nicole Brown [Simpson]'s autopsy photos??? creeptastic!!!), I think Denise Richards probably had to dig deep for the courage to leave once and for all. I hope he's not allowed to see those kids unsupervised. And that she kicks his ass in the settlement.

Here's the thing I don't get and have never gotten about the TomKat baby thing...isn't he supposed to be infertile? Isn't that the whole reason he and Nicole Kidman adopted, and he and Mimi Rogers never had kids at all...? I had an inkling, but I never totally realized what an incredible political machine the Church of $cientology is, until this mess came along. Their powers of obfuscation are incredible.

On a completely unrelated note, here is a video of Pink performing her new song, Dear Mr. President. *sigh* I'm so totally in love with her.

[bklynhermit]

yes, he did. actually i think it was promotion for MI3 (his other cast members were there), but still. i had cut him some slack considering the baby wasn't born, like, during the actual premiere of the film. But him holding a promotional interview for a film and spending the whole time talking about his "girlfriend" and "their" "newborn" baby really underscores the way he's willing to use his relationships and family as promotion for his career.

as far as sheen, doesn't he have a history of abusive behavior?

[roseviolet]

How frightening! Poor Denise! I must admit that a part of me was worried that Sheen might be the manipulative, controlling type. Especially when he started going on talk shows and talking about their relationship. Frankly, I don't trust celebrities who talk about their relationships on talk shows. I feel that people in truly healthy, committed relationships are more protective than that.

Which brings me around to Tom Cruise. Is it true that he did an television interview before the end of the week? An actual sit-down interview to talk about the baby? Before the child was even 48 hours old?! Someone please straighten me out on this.

[kittenb]

Goodness, cucumberfruit, that is messed up!

[cucumberfruit]

Denise Richards is calling Charlie Sheen out:

read this and then follow their link for the whole story

[bunnyb]

doodlebug, I had dinner with the only Vancouverite I know this evening (the boy's bro-in-law) and asked him if he knew of Surrey and he said, yes, he grew up there! Although he agreed with your analysis. He's told me before that it's the car-stealing capital of the world but, thankfully, he turned out alright (he's a very much in demand physio, intelligent, great guy to be around)

I feel fatigued with gossip now the spawn's been officially popped. I am awaiting the shitteth to hitteth the fanneth.