[jenniferg]

I'm using fem-dophilus.

I've been taking fem-dophilus twice a day since Feb. and I have been feeling great. I've even been to my gyno, and she checked my discharge and told me it looked fine. This is the longest time I've gone without having BV, or on the verge of getting it - during the last 7 years. As I explained before, when I have BV, I also have a dull pain in my cervix. So not only am I happy to be free of the smelly-snatch-problem, I'm also thrilled to be pain free.

I hesitate calling this the cure, because I'm always going to be paranoid about it, I'll always be sniffing my panties like a crazy person. But I'm feeling really good. I'm feeling so good I'm going to start taking fem-dophilus only once a day now, with my fingers crossed, of course.

I think the best, most sensible medical explanation for the neverending cycle of recurrences is that the antibiotics mess with our flora, and we get reinfected. So I think probiotics is definitely something that can help everyone in here (just make sure to stay away from Gy-natren).

Lori: Where do you get the fem-dophilus? Do you have to order online or are there any stores that carry it?

[ilovehim]

That sounds just like me...I was wondering why whenever I take it I start getting really depressed. It must be the Flagyl.

Me three!

[lori]

oh that's a good idea! because i always forget to take my regular daily vitamins too. what exactly are you using right now for your bv? i don't even know.

I'm using fem-dophilus.

I've been taking fem-dophilus twice a day since Feb. and I have been feeling great. I've even been to my gyno, and she checked my discharge and told me it looked fine. This is the longest time I've gone without having BV, or on the verge of getting it - during the last 7 years. As I explained before, when I have BV, I also have a dull pain in my cervix. So not only am I happy to be free of the smelly-snatch-problem, I'm also thrilled to be pain free.

I hesitate calling this the cure, because I'm always going to be paranoid about it, I'll always be sniffing my panties like a crazy person. But I'm feeling really good. I'm feeling so good I'm going to start taking fem-dophilus only once a day now, with my fingers crossed, of course.

I think the best, most sensible medical explanation for the neverending cycle of recurrences is that the antibiotics mess with our flora, and we get reinfected. So I think probiotics is definitely something that can help everyone in here (just make sure to stay away from Gy-natren).

[jewelscando]

If you have true, re-occuring B.V., I hate to be the barrier of bad news, but the Flagyl, orally, won't work. It will VERY temporarily, but you will get a yeast infection, and your B.V. will return. If this is a one time case for you, then you might get lucky and it will work.

For me, Flagyl vaginally is the ONLY solution right now. Mine is gone. And, I'm not doing any preventative either.

I've had reoccuring B.V. now for 5 going on 6 yrs. And this is the first time, I've gone MONTHS, with no smell. Even after sex.

So...The solutions are here girls, Flagyl Vaginally, Estroil, and maybe 1 or two others. All these other remedies you all are trying, are not going to work, IN THE LONG RUN. AND THAT'S JUST MY OPPINION!!!!

SINCE YOU ALL SEEM TO WANT TO QUOTE UN QUOTE ME, LET'S GET IT STRAIGHT ON WHAT I SAID. I SAID...QUOTE....KEY WORDS HERE....."IF YOU HAVE TRUE, RE-OCCURING B.V., I HATE TO BE THE BARRIER OF BAD NEWS, BUT THE FLAGYL, ORALLY WON'T WORK." KEY WORDS, IF YOU HAVE TRUE RE-OCCURING B.V. And that right there, you can take to the bank. THERE IS NO CURE. That is why we all have to try what works for us. BORIC ACID GAVE ME A RASH SO BAD, MY ARMS WERE BLEEDING. BUT...Do I tell you all to stop saying to use it???? NOOOOO, WHY NOT?? Because it works for some of you.

THEN I SAID, QUOTE...."FOR ME....FLAGYL VAGINALLY IS THE ONLY SOLUTION RIGHT NOW". So for those of you who said I didn't say, FOR ME, FUCKING READ. Lori, I'm sick of your ass. You think you're helpfull, and you're not.

Thanks to all the Private PM's, I received. I will keep in contact with you all.

[jenniferg]

mfc10: I LOVE boric acid. It is the only thing that has ever helped my BV. I use it now so that I can maintain a somewhat normal sex life. And yes, it is the same thing as Yeast Arrest, but it's a lot cheaper to make your own capsules.

Sassy: How long does the results last after you use the boric acid? Do you go symptom free for a while and then bv comes back? Do you use boric acid daily? I am curious and want to try it.

[anitsirhc]

I used boric acid with much success==for treating concurrent BV/resistant-yeast infections. It is the major ingredient in Yeast Arrest vaginal capsules, right? The only cavaet--after using boric acid via the dose-and-timing schedule as you have described, I got really dry in there. My gyn, a big believer in boric acid (God rest his soul--he committed suicide last summer!), suggested applying a dab of estrogen cream vaginally (I use Estrace) after using boric acid (once its residue quits dripping out) to help the lining get re-moistened.

Awaiting my Fem Dophilus order--before they were available here in the U.S., I had to get these strains of lactobacilli from friends in Austria!

Blessings,
Maggie C.

yes boric acid is in Yeast Arrest. maybe i will by some estrogen cream. the only thing is it drips out of me all day. cause i insert 1 in the morning and 1 at night.

[anitsirhc]

Good luck, anitsirhc. I bought one of those 7-day pill cases which helps me make sure to never miss a day.

oh that's a good idea! because i always forget to take my regular daily vitamins too. what exactly are you using right now for your bv? i don't even know.

[lori]

i just ordered my fem-dophilus (from iherb.com.) i'm hoping this along with the yeast arrest works for me.

Good luck, anitsirhc. I bought one of those 7-day pill cases which helps me make sure to never miss a day.

[anitsirhc]

i just ordered my fem-dophilus (from iherb.com.) i'm hoping this along with the yeast arrest works for me. if this doesn't work i think the next thing i will try is the estriol or estroil however you spell it.

[anitsirhc]

I don't agree with that. Do you think it's pointless to object to mistaken medical information?
Not sure why you're blaming me for "this," anitsirhc. The original bickering was happening between Jewels and arj75. Jewels took some things a little too personally, and arj75, to her credit, refused to take the bait.

If you recall, I had some disagreements with some of arj75's statements. Again to arj75's credit, we are able to disagree with each other, without name-calling and other stupid shit. And I think THAT is how we're going to come closer to finding solutions - by discussing things in a civilized way, but not being afraid to object or disagree with each other.

i never blamed you, in my original post about the arguing i addressed things a lot of girls were doing, not only you. except you were the only one who wrote back to start arguing with me because you're always on the defense and having to prove everyone wrong. i don't want to recall anything. i don't care what disagreements you had. everyone had disagreements, except they don't always write about them. they keep it to themselves because they realize that this is a place for everyone to talk about their experiences and thoughts on BV. not a place for people to argue back and forth about what is right and what is wrong and you said this you said that blah blah blah. stop focussing on what people are saying and friggin talk about BV!! i'm getting pissed off now, don't write back to this please. i don't want to talk to you about this anymore, i want to talk about what's working for you, what's working for me. that's what this is for.

[neverending]

WOW! I've never seen the board like this before. There is soooo much fighting going on here. Ladies, we all need to support each other. I understand this is a very hard thing to go through and we are frustrated but the fighting has got to stop.Lets turn this back into a support group, respect each other, and LISTEN to what each person has to say.

Lori: Everyone here is desperate! That's why you hear soooo many people with crazy ideas. I for one thought about battery acid myself. LOL! I had a crazy idea (estroil=estrogen) and it worked.

[lori]

ok well i think you should just stop worrying about what everyone else says. it doesn't do anything and it's pointless.

I don't agree with that. Do you think it's pointless to object to mistaken medical information?

i just hope this stops.

Not sure why you're blaming me for "this," anitsirhc. The original bickering was happening between Jewels and arj75. Jewels took some things a little too personally, and arj75, to her credit, refused to take the bait.

If you recall, I had some disagreements with some of arj75's statements, too. Again to arj75's credit, we are able to disagree with each other, without name-calling and other stupid shit. And I think THAT is how we're going to come closer to finding solutions - by discussing things in a civilized way, but not being afraid to disagree with each other.

[sassy]

mfc10: I LOVE boric acid. It is the only thing that has ever helped my BV. I use it now so that I can maintain a somewhat normal sex life. And yes, it is the same thing as Yeast Arrest, but it's a lot cheaper to make your own capsules.

[anitsirhc]

I'm glad you agree that what Jewels said is not right. She's talked about vaginal-flagyl for a while, and while I expressed my reservations with that, I didn't tell her to stop saying it.

But like I said, what she said lately (about it being the only thing that will work) is very irresponsible. And she did need to stop saying that.

And I stand by that.

Also, I want to add that Jewels also gave WRONG information. She cited info. about vaginal tablets, and misinterpreted that to mean that using oral flagyl tablets vaginally is safe. If she is giving wrong medical information, I think it's okay to correct her. Don't you?

ok well i think you should just stop worrying about what everyone else says. it doesn't do anything and it's pointless. i'm done talking about this. i just hope this stops.

[mfc10]

i'd rather use natural ways. that's why i'm using the Yeast Arrest. and there are a few people on this board (i don't remember who) who were successful with that.

I used boric acid with much success==for treating concurrent BV/resistant-yeast infections. It is the major ingredient in Yeast Arrest vaginal capsules, right? The only cavaet--after using boric acid via the dose-and-timing schedule as you have described, I got really dry in there. My gyn, a big believer in boric acid (God rest his soul--he committed suicide last summer!), suggested applying a dab of estrogen cream vaginally (I use Estrace) after using boric acid (once its residue quits dripping out) to help the lining get re-moistened.

Awaiting my Fem Dophilus order--before they were available here in the U.S., I had to get these strains of lactobacilli from friends in Austria!

Blessings,
Maggie C.

[lori]

i didn't say she was right for what she said but she wanted to say it and she is allowed to. that's her opinion. she should have added "for me" at the end of each of those sentences but who am i or anyone else to tell her what to say? i didn't want to get personal with this but you act like you're in charge of everyone and if they say something that you don't like or you don't agree with then they shouldn't say it.

I'm glad you agree that what Jewels said is not right. She's talked about vaginal-flagyl for a while, and while I expressed my reservations with that, I didn't tell her to stop saying it.

But like I said, what she said lately (about it being the only thing that will work) is very irresponsible. And she did need to stop saying that.

And I stand by that.

Also, I want to add that Jewels also gave WRONG information. She cited info. about vaginal tablets that are not available in the U.S., and misinterpreted that to mean that using oral flagyl tablets vaginally is safe.

If she is giving wrong medical information, I think it's okay to correct her. Don't you?

[anitsirhc]

I essentially agree with what you're saying, anitsirhc.

But Jewels did say that taking flagyl orally does not work and that vaginal-flagyl is one of only two solutions.

That IS wrong, and a very irresponsible thing to say.
And that is what she should have said, but she didn't.

i also said you should stop picking out every little thing that people say and correcting them. which is what you're doing. i didn't say she was right for what she said but she wanted to say it and she is allowed to. that's her opinion. she should have added "for me" at the end of each of those sentences but who am i or anyone else to tell her what to say? i didn't want to get personal with this but you act like you're in charge of everyone and if they say something that you don't like or you don't agree with then they shouldn't say it.

I think when you tell people to stay away from something, you should back up your claims with some research - not just "I read this on the internet somewhere ..." Where are the studies that say it causes nerve damage? I'm not even doubting you, I think it's worth knowing about. But I think you should substantiate your claims before warning people to completely stay away, don't you?

And that is an objective criticism, not based on the fact that you've recently called me a "bitch," a "cunt," and a "piece of shit."
Untrue. I've only been around a month, and there's been plenty of shit-slinging before I ever made a peep. Let's not forget Jewels beating up on a couple of newbies recently. And the latest shit-flinging had nothing to do with me - arj75 had problems with Jewels - "stop putting crap in your twat!" as she eloquently put it. (And I think it's about time someone said it.)

I really appreciate all the support and the ability to share our problems in this thread - but there's also a lot of bad ideas that were given in here, too - some of them are potentially harmful, some of them made thing worse, some people ended up with people's vaginas "torn up!"

I really do appreciate this thread. But that doesn't change the fact that it's also a long, sad record of people shoving all manners of things in your bajingo hoping for magic, and being disappointed. I'm not putting anyone down - I've had my "Bad Product Pussy Explosion," too (which I already talked about). And it is sad that we have become so desperate that we've become willing to try anything, possibly putting our health in danger.

But it really does get a little insane around here.

you keep bringing up things that happened in the past and wasting more time on arguments. why would you want to talk about arguments that already happened. like i said, if you have a problem with something someone said, you should talk to them privately. not on here. stop wasting time going back and finding things that people said that you think they shouldn't have. why don't you spend your time doing things that help out, like research on BV WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE.

[lori]

i haven't said anything about the arguing lately because i want to be neutral and stay out of it but i think everyone should stop saying what is "RIGHT" and what's "WRONG." we're here to share our experiences. and find something that works. if someone has found something that worked, even though it may not be the prescribed way to use it, who cares? why shouldn't they share it with us? it might work for someone else too. nobody says you HAVE to do it that way, it's just another option.

I essentially agree with what you're saying, anitsirhc.

But Jewels did say that taking flagyl orally does not work and that vaginal-flagyl is one of only two solutions.

That IS wrong, and a very irresponsible thing to say.

nobody says you HAVE to do it that way, it's just another option.

And that is what she should have said, but she very clearly didn't.

What she said was irresponsible, period.

[lori]

[EDITED] USELESS CONVERSATION WITH MORPHIA DELETED.

To everyone,

I really appreciate all the support and the ability to share our problems in this thread - but there's also a lot of bad ideas that were given in here, too - some of them are potentially harmful, some of them made thing worse, some people ended up with people's vaginas "torn up!"

I really do appreciate this thread. But that doesn't change the fact that it's also a long, sad record of people shoving all manners of things in their bajingo hoping for magic, and being disappointed. I'm not putting anyone down - I've had my "Bad Product Pussy Explosion," too (which I already talked about). And it is sad that we have become so desperate that we've become willing to try anything, possibly putting our health in danger.

But it really does get a little insane around here. I don't think the recent hysteria and the irresponsible recommendations are helpful. Basically, I've got a problem with all the bad advice - potentially unsafe recommendations, and unsubstantiated claims.

I've gotten a few PM's recently, from members who do NOT post in this thread, but have questions about BV. I think we should all be mindful that there are a lot of women who read this thread, and may get the wrong idea about the suggestions in here.

[jenniferg]

That is odd! I've noticed that yeast creams ease the burning too. Which is why I thought I was battling recurrent yeast infections for over a year. I wonder why this is? But I'm too afraid to use yeast creams for just anything since it can actually be dangerous. There are studies that are showing that its the easy access us women have to yeast treatments that is giving rise to all of these resistant strains. I try to stay away from yeast meds unless I know for sure that I have yeast infection.

My doctor told me that maybe I have bv and a small yeast inf. together which is why the monistat helps. I have read that too about it not being good to use them all the time so I try not to unless I just can't take it anymore.