[roquelaure]

teehee- saw this on one of my fave sites, and immediately thought of this thread- check out the post for oct 30th

http://www.photoshopdisasters.com/

then again, although i chuckle at the ridiculousness of it, it pisses me off that they feel the need to do it on a site with the name "aalingerie". geez.

[starship]

i love the name purplestain!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/emiliano_desi...57594400892080/

tell me she's not hot

[purplestain]

what's with all this padding and wanting to look bigger? How about some "proud to be small" bras?

I agree, and one of the biggest problems I have with lingerie for small-breasted women is that they are nearly all padded or underwired, especially in the (pre)teen section. Any kind of wiring is uncomfortable and unnecessary for me. Padding makes it unbelievably awkward to raise my arms above my head/lean over a desk to write/fold my arms across my chest/move in any way. The best solution I've found is to shop only for bralettes, because they give a little support without building a foam sculpture on my chest. I've been wearing these (http://www.barelythere.com/style.asp?cid=1&id=50) literally every day since I discovered them. But most bralettes are pretty plain, which brings me to my next point...

THANK YOU for posting Lula Lu!! There goes my bank account... and here come lovely lacy sheer and sexy bralettes

[karategrrl]

Hey ladies, I had to share.

I got this wicked new sweater:

http://www.us.redoute.com/clothing/Rayon-a...;PurchaseType=G

The V neck, on me, comes down to somwhere between my breastbone and navel. I tried it on last night without anythingon under and I have to say it actually looked good! Like, good enough that I might attempt to wear it that way in public, braless, and be daring at some point.

PS: I've gotten some serious bargains from this site!

Happy Halloween to those who celebrate it, and have a great weekend ladies!

[Aithinne]

That is true about the men being muscular in video games. Very interesting. Someone should do a cultural study of kid's movies.

[karategrrl]

They seem to think life will be perfect, but they don't realize there are difficulties with every size.

Children's movie... hmm. Seems we teach kids how to interact with women of different body types starting pretty early in life.

Grrl, very interesting observations. I am ashamed to admit this, but yes, I did watch Robin Hood in the last year, too, and now that you mention it, I do remember Little John suddenly having breasts when he dressed as a woman, and the flirting with the guards!

Yeeesssireee, I think this does start very, very early. Look at any of the video games now--the ones where you can choose your character--the female ones are usually busty and scantily clad. To be fair, observe that the male characters often are very muscular and may be sleeveless or shirtless. Neither is a "typical" portrayal of an average person.

Does anyone remember the Rankin-Bass production of "Rudolph" (made in the '60s, I think)? I always looooved this and, last Christmas, found and bought a DVD version. I was pretty shocked to see that, in this un-edited version, a scene they edited out of it when they showed it on TV. When Rudolph runs away and his father leaves to look for him, his mother wants to go, too, but the father says, "NO! This is MAN'S work!" After he leaves, Rudolph's mom and girlfriend set out on their own. They did what they wanted to do, but after the men left. I think if this scene appeared in a 2008 version, Rudolph's mom would slap his dad shitless for that comment! BWAH!

[Aithinne]

Karategrrl, what a BS response from the magazine.. It seems like they think what you're saying is stupid. I feel that people are so focused now trying to combat negativity about people who aren't super skinny. There's a lot of stuff out now talking about how it's ok to be curvy (which it is!), and how men want curvy women, but I feel like they are approaching the negativity problem in the wrong way. I feel like they are building up that subset of women at the expense of women who don't have curves. As if the less curvy ladies are all completely ecstatic that they lack volumptuous curves, um, huh? There seems to be this idea that the other side of the fence has it perfect, that they have perfect confidence, and can't find anything wrong with themselves. The thinking is false. I've talked to people who assume that being thin with small breasts is all that and a bag of cheese and that I must be perfectly happy. NO, no no! I then try to describe to them how it could make someone feel less feminine and womanly to be built in such a manner. Some people understand a little bit better that every body type has their possible issues, but some people stubbornly hold on to their opinion, unfortunately. Instead of thinking people are just being stupid, I wish more people would try to understand WHY people feel the way they do. As far as breasts, I have several busty (and beautiful) friends who have told me they wish they had A's/B's. They seem to think life will be perfect, but they don't realize there are difficulties with every size.

On a side note, I still nostalgically watch disney movies and I was watching the animated Robin Hood yesterday, and saw something I'd never noticed before but thought it was interesting. In the beginning of the movie when Robin (the fox) and Little John (the bear) see Prince John's (the lion) carriage, they decide to swindle the prince out of his money. So they dress up like women gypsies and ask to tell Prince John's fortune. I noticed that while Robin was in the carriage with the prince (Robin being dressed as a small-breasted woman), Little John, dressed as a large-breasted woman takes the gold hubcaps off the carriage and puts the gold from the treasure box in his "cleavage". Little John escapes because he flirts (in his large-breasted woman costume) with the guards when they whistle at Little John. I thought that was interesting, because it imitates real life- the large-breasted ladies getting the catcalls and whistles (although I don't think the large-breasted ladies would be as apt to flirt with such men). I just thought it was an interesting choice on the relative "breastedness" of the costumes, and how they interact with the guards. Children's movie... hmm. Seems we teach kids how to interact with women of different body types starting pretty early in life.

[starship]

did i miss the karategrrl pics:(

thanks for the links raquelaure!
im thinking of having a bit of a lingerie revamp sometime soon. its so hard to find something suitable that actually fits so when i do i tend to stick with them until they go to that little knciker drawer in the sky. i need some new, cute and unpadded stuff...ive also realised that half the bras i have i dont actually wear- wishful thinking purchases that didnt fit or dont look right under clothes. sigh.

i find a lot of articles and stuff i come across tends to have anti-a-cup undertones. its often just an implication though which leaves me looking/feeling like an over-sensitive obsessor if i complain...
although, i imagine there's probably a few scenarios where i unintentionally imply things in a similar way.

ah, i came for a bit of a boobie-rant but it's been a long day and my bed beckons

love to you all!!

[karategrrl]

I think it's kinda hard to keep telling "those people" that A-cups are hot when clearly they don't think so. I agree with you karategrrl that the comment on the magazine is a bit offensive, I would read it as you did, but hei... people have their own opinions. I don't know... by the way karategrrl, you're HOT. Luuuuuv your hair and your huge smile!

Hey, Vendetta,

Thanks for the compliments. Awww, shucks...

Yep, I agree that people have their own opinions, and while I respect that I also think we must speak up when something is offensive. Yes, it is a fine line sometimes, as that approach can be taken to extremes--like, everything could be seen as offensive to someone. However, large-circulation magazines would get lots of flak if they printed things about large women being unsexy, or people of certain ethnicities being ugly or stupid, or any "opinions" of that sort. So why is this any different?

By the way, the article was titled, "French Women Don't Get Flat." <ahem, yes, we hate that word!> I did write them. This is what I heard back:

"Of course, we are sorry if you are disappointed in the "Why French Women Don't Get Flat", but we do thank you for being interested enough to share your thoughts with us."

Our words may fall on deaf ears, but I think if we speak up enough, eventually we will be heard. I think it's important to express one's opinion (of course, being respectful and intelligent about it) instead of just accepting it or getting upset about it. At least I know I said something on behalf of us all, and that does help me sleep at night.

I am reminded of model Beverly Johnson, who observed that there had never been a woman of color on the cover of Vogue magazine. She wrote them a letter, and very soon <poof>, they had the first woman of color--her--on the cover. When she first appeared on Glamour's cover, the magazine's circulation doubled and set a record. In two years, she was on the front of Glamour magazine six times. She spoke her mind...and was heard. And people responded.

I think very often people don't mean to be offensive--it's just they've never considered another opinion (like...hellooooo...A-cups can be as sexy as any other breast size). That's where sharing of ideas and opinions is so important--it leads to greater knowledge and understanding, and the opening of minds.

Thanks again, V. for the compliment about my hair. I have to say that that's also been one of the things that's always been "different" about me (that and my small breasts). In the 70s, when everyone strove for that lookalike, straight, part-down-the-middle style, it was hell to stand out with my head of big, thick, frizzy curls. Lately, I have been embracing my hair as that which helps make me unique. And that's helped me view my breasts the same way.

[Vendetta]

I think it's kinda hard to keep telling "those people" that A-cups are hot when clearly they don't think so. I agree with you karategrrl that the comment on the magazine is a bit offensive, I would read it as you did, but hei... people have their own opinions. I don't know... by the way karategrrl, you're HOT. Luuuuuv your hair and your huge smile!

[Aithinne]

Thought I'd add a few things to cheer everyone's day!

Turn up the volume!!!


Also, gotta love Maya Angelou:

Phenomenal Woman by Maya Angelou

Pretty women wonder where my secret lies.
I'm not cute or built to suit a fashion model's size
But when I start to tell them,
They think I'm telling lies.
I say,
It's in the reach of my arms
The span of my hips,
The stride of my step,
The curl of my lips.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

I walk into a room
Just as cool as you please,
And to a man,
The fellows stand or
Fall down on their knees.
Then they swarm around me,
A hive of honey bees.
I say,
It's the fire in my eyes,
And the flash of my teeth,
The swing in my waist,
And the joy in my feet.
I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

Men themselves have wondered
What they see in me.
They try so much
But they can't touch
My inner mystery.
When I try to show them
They say they still can't see.
I say,
It's in the arch of my back,
The sun of my smile,
The ride of my breasts,
The grace of my style.
I'm a woman

Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

Now you understand
Just why my head's not bowed.
I don't shout or jump about
Or have to talk real loud.
When you see me passing
It ought to make you proud.
I say,
It's in the click of my heels,
The bend of my hair,
the palm of my hand,
The need of my care,
'Cause I'm a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That's me.

[ailurophile]

I have soooo much to say right now but I have been sooo busy this past week and since it's now Halloween week, like the best holiday EVER, I will continue to be busy for a bit. I just wanted to say, Karategrrl, that you should write something. They always have that section in mags where you can comment on articles of past issues. It's a great point to bring up that bigger girl's with her mentality need to know as well as it would be much appreciated by our smallie sisters around the world. I am insulted by that comment so, no, I don't think you're over reacting.

[karategrrl]

Subject: Stupidness in the Media

In the November issue of More magazine (which I usually dearly love, by the way), there is an article about a woman who goes to the premiere bra fitter in France to get her breasts measured and a bra custom-made. The woman, about finding she is actually an A-cup, not a B, as she had thought all her life, writes:

"My mouth falls open in protest. Surely my breasts are fuller than that. Why, men have promised impossible things to get at these breasts! I think of at least one who would offer a testimonial by phone."

Okay, so being an A-cup means no man would "promise impossible things" for them? Am I reading too much into this, ladies? I honestly don't see the correlation between one and the other. I think I shall write a letter to the magazine and bitch about it. Unless you all tell me I'm being too reactive.

Oh, and this woman has, like, 10 times the breast mass I do. I don't get the A-cup thing at all.

PS: My work friend made my freaking day before. She brought in a super-cute little black goth-ish dress for me that was too small in the chest for her. Like...she can't wear it BECAUSE her breasts are TOO BIG. Like...it's gonna fit me better BECAUSE of my smallies. Ah, the gems in life that keep us going....

[Aithinne]

Again, GRRR with the stupid padding!! Dang it, I want to show what I got, not a bunch of stuffing. In my opinion, the only reason for padding is to prevent nipping out. Period. Other than that, I beg the underwear makers to stop stuffing my shirts!

[roquelaure]

Random thought, after looking at the lingerie sites below....

I'm all for someone opting for a padded bra instead of cutting herself open, but....
what's with all this padding and wanting to look bigger? How about some "proud to be small" bras? It's one of those things that makes me want to slit my wrists, shave my eyebrows, pluck out my pubes one by one and generally have a tremendous hissy fit when I see B, C, and even D-cup bras with "uplift," padding and "cleavage-enhancing" bullshit. Isn't anyone ever satisfied that they are "big enough?" Dang, what I'd give to be one of those "small" girls with a B-cup.

and how freaking unnatural does it look, too! if i'm wearing my "falsies" (ridiculously padded ones) and someone bumps me, both boobs move simultaneously to the right or left. or if they have the "cookies" that are supposed to give lift, you can blatantly tell where the bra stops and i begin- there's like, a bra speed bump on my upper chest. yep. real natural. that's one of the reasons i like my walmart ones- just enough lining/padding for a smooth seam-free silhouette and the tiny bit of support that i need. if they just wern't so plain jane, dang it.

[karategrrl]

Random thought, after looking at the lingerie sites below....

I'm all for someone opting for a padded bra instead of cutting herself open, but....
what's with all this padding and wanting to look bigger? How about some "proud to be small" bras? It's one of those things that makes me want to slit my wrists, shave my eyebrows, pluck out my pubes one by one and generally have a tremendous hissy fit when I see B, C, and even D-cup bras with "uplift," padding and "cleavage-enhancing" bullshit. Isn't anyone ever satisfied that they are "big enough?" Dang, what I'd give to be one of those "small" girls with a B-cup.

[karategrrl]

the treasure chest contest kinda reminded me of myfreeimplants.com . Women sign up and somehow collect money from guy members until theyve reached their 'goal' and can afford a boob job.

Yep, I think we discussed that here when it came out. Pathetic. Utterly shameful. Never mind that, for the cost of a boob job (not to mention corrective surgery, MRIs to supplement mammograms--necessary when you have implants--and implant-replacement surgeries), a family in a third-world country could freaking eat for a year and send their kids to school or something.

I've heard it said that there will eventually be a backlash against augmentation surgery. I can't wait. I think having the option of surgical breast augmentation out there puts almost every "small" woman into a "do I or don't I?" place at least once in her life. In the good 'ol days before such options, at least small breasts weren't looked on as some weird novelty to be "corrected." Before implants, I'm sure just as many women may have wished they were larger, but in today's world, if you are small and choose to stay that way, many look at you and think (or say), why doesn't she??

im thinking of just making sure i wear a tight top and no bra next time i see him. just to be sure everythings out in the open. so to speak...

I always did this at least once with a potential new partner. I figured I'd give him the chance to run before it got sexual if he felt my size was so repulsive.

roquelaure, "fleavage!" BWAHHA HA! That's like "fugly" or "pleather!" Love your sense of humor!

[roquelaure]

roquelaure i dont spose you remember what the UK site was?? i have the same shipping problem with all the fab U.S sites that are usually mentioned here

i don't remember exactly which one that i saw that had a ton of them, but i did a quick google for "34aaa" and found these:

http://www.knowknockers.co.uk/
http://www.daintylady.co.uk/
http://www.aalingerie.com/


i LOVE Dainty Lady "Rosa" collection. and it's on sale... bad roque! bad bad bad!! no pretty things until the credit card is paid off!!

i've also read a lot about these on petite clothing forums, but i'm hesitant. i mean, you only have so much flesh to smoosh together to make faux-cleavage ("Fleavage?!"), i don't understand how i have enough to give me the look of 2 cups more.

http://www.bitasaviss.com/bitasaviss/Colle...Distraction_Bra

[starship]

the treasure chest contest kinda reminded me of myfreeimplants.com . Women sign up and somehow collect money from guy members until theyve reached their 'goal' and can afford a boob job. i read a magazine article about a women who it actually worked for a while back but didnt mention it at the time because i actually thought certain people might be tempted to sign up themselves. what i find it most insulting that it seems almost like a charity- the same way you'd collect funds for a child who needed a life saving operation or something.

on the subject of new partners, do you ladies find you feel more comfortable if youve kind of mentioned the subject before and your insecurities about it (if you have any) or do you just dive right in there? theres a new guy on the cards but because ive been feeling loads better about my boobs i dont think he's even aware theres an issue. i dont really want to draw attention to it but im kinda worried incase when the moment comes he has a look of shock or disapointment on his face:/. id be mortified. im thinking of just making sure i wear a tight top and no bra next time i see him. just to be sure everythings out in the open. so to speak...

roquelaure i dont spose you remember what the UK site was?? i have the same shipping problem with all the fab U.S sites that are usually mentioned here

[karategrrl]

hilarious. i love the onion. didn't some one just recently mention that's how the companies got the FDA to approve breast implants in the first place? that they were a 'cure' for small breasts and that women with small breasts were somehow, deficient? bullshit.

It's freaking shameful, really, that the FDA would approve them. We could take that same effort/time/money and cure diseases or something. The FDA has their heads up their asses with this, seriously. How many women have to get sick from these damn things for them to realize they are harmful?

i am so horny. my boyfriend and i recently broke up (my doing, the distance, yadayadayada) and i must admit that part of me is afraid that i won't find anyone who will appreciate my breasts as much as he did.

p.s. i think the girl on the first page of that ridiculous chicago radio station contest is hot! the one on the right side, she's wearing a white sports bra. i just want to shake her and say, 'don't do it girl!'

Sorry to hear about the BF situation. But I don't see you putting up with anything less than you deserve from anyone, grrl!

I agree about the girl in the white sports bra. She IS hot. Whe I first loaded the page, my first reaction was, "That's how my boobs look!" then, "Wait, she wants implants?? WHY???" I'd just prefer to see her in a little triangle top, flaunting those puppies.

i just think if we took away the demand, refused to buy into the image of femininity that the media encourages us to (only because they want to sell us their products, not because they give shit or have done any research), then we'd all be better off.

Amen, sistah, amen.